The Qur'an, the Constitution and the Legacy of W.D. Muhammad
Earlier this year, the Zaytuna Institute (American Islam's only seminary) held an event at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago to honor Dr. Umar Abd-Allah and Warith Deen Muhammad. Imam Muhammad was unable to attend for health reasons. Dr. Umar, with his signature humility and wisdom, devoted his acceptance speech to the meaning of Imam Muhammad's work. Hearing that speech was the closest I ever got to Imam Muhammad, and I've had it on repeat in my mind ever since his recent passing.
Inspired by Malcolm X, Dr. Umar converted to Islam in the early 1970s and came to the University of Chicago, on the city's south side, to do a PhD in Islamic Studies. The city was still reeling from the violence of the Democratic National Convention in 1968 and the murders of Martin Luther King Jr., Bobby Kennedy, Fred Hampton and Malcolm X. Elijah Muhammad, who had used a twisted interpretation of Islam as the spark to build a large and disciplined black separatist movement, was ailing and would soon die. A small group of immigrant Muslims had arrived in the States and started to build what the first generation always builds - a set of bubble institutions which allowed them to separate themselves from the mainstream society.
Onto this scene came Warith Deen Muhammad, holding in his hand both the Qur'an and the Constitution, telling his father's community that the proper understanding of each would make them loyal to both. He knew he was courting death (look what happened to Malcolm). He knew how impossible the task was - to take a community with an oppositional identity and transform them into one with a pluralist vision - but he was an American and a Muslim and his task was to try.
"The idea of human dignity that the Constitution expresses is ... in accord with the concept of man in the Qur'an ..." he told his community.
"The Qur'an plainly tells us that superiority or righteousness or piety is not to be looked for under skin color or under a religious label. It's a content that God makes. It should be the Muslim conscience," he admonished in the same speech.
And what was remarkable was that his father's community followed him. Louis Farrakhan led a small group that continued to call itself the Nation of Islam and made a lot of headlines with outrageous statements, but Warith Deen Muhammad's community was far larger and concerned itself less with headlines than with living pious lives and doing the work reflected in the title Imam Muhammad gave the group, The Mosque Cares.
Imam Muhammad was a pioneer in interfaith work as well. In 1995, he spoke at a conference of Muslims and Jews, had several high-profile discussions with Roman Catholic Cardinals and twice met with the Pope. He was the first American Muslim to deliver an invocation in the United States Senate, and offered a Muslim prayer at both of President Clinton's inauguration ceremonies.
'I would not exist if it was not for Imam Muhammad,' Dr. Umar told the crowd at the Museum of Science and Industry event.
It was a huge statement to make.
Dr. Umar is American Islam's most senior scholar. In Islam and the Cultural Imperative and other key essays, Dr. Umar cites the Qur'an and Islamic tradition on the importance of building a big tent Muslim community that includes people of all racial, ethnic and theological persuasions, and that channels its spiritual energies into concrete contributions to its host society.
What Dr. Umar was acknowledging that night is that Warith Deen Muhammad set the template for American Islam.
Every Muslim in America owes our existence to him.
May God have mercy on his soul.
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Posted by: George | September 20, 2008 12:55 PM
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" Concerned The Christian Now Liberated:
And all this hate could be cured by a simple Wiccan spell!!!"
Aaand... The stopped clock *strikes,* for once!
Yes, it could, actually, CCNL. It'd take a whole long time to manifest, but if everyone did a simple Wiccan spell, pretty regularly, yes.
I'm not holding my breath. Maybe we ought to just observe the metaphor.
Posted by: Paganplace | September 17, 2008 5:15 PM
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And all this hate could be cured by a simple Wiccan spell!!!
Posted by: Concerned The Christian Now Liberated | September 17, 2008 3:37 PM
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"THE ANTI-MUSLIM BLOGERS ON THIS PAGE: ARE THEY PART OF THIS ANTI-ISLAM CAMPAIGN?"
Muslims against Christians, Christians against Muslims, Sunni against Shia, Catholics v Protestants....
One of these days, you guys will stop barking at the strange creature in the window and realize that window is a two-sided mirror.
Posted by: Paganplace | September 17, 2008 1:37 PM
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Anonymous,
Your translation and interpretation are wrong.
Correct interpretation;
Let there be a community of you who invite to what is good/submission(first invite,if you reject than Holy War),advocate righteousness(advocate shariah,submission) and forbid evil(all non-islamic things).These are the winners(who may go to Paradise of submission and who kiss the young girls whose breasts are budded,as written,namely little girls).You are the best community(shariah community) ever raised among the people(what did *best community* give Humanity ?*;you advocate righteousness/shariah/submission and forbid evil/all non-islamic things,and you believe in Allah(not GOD).
Posted by: halozcel | September 17, 2008 7:03 AM
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"Let there be a community of you who invite to what is good, advocate righteousness, and forbid evil. These are the winners." You are the best community ever raised among the people: you advocate righteousness and forbid evil, and you believe in GOD...."
[ Quran 3:104 & 110]
Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 4:17 AM
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Haloczel says:
“Submission brings Poverty’”
I wish to expand on this statement. Submission has been historically to the edicts of imams and other Muslim religious clerics. Those have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. There are many rules in the Muslim religion that cover every aspect of life. Those rules are expanding due to the arising complexities of life. Now a person can get a fatwa(edict) by phone for a price, off course. The bombshells of the near past were “The Nursing of Adults”, “Urine of Camels as Medicine” and the “Marriage to Infants” and many other similar topics.
Those many rules and regulations accompanied by the fear of the “ Torture of the Grave” as vividly described in the Muslim scriptures plus the prospect of hell later on have numbed people’s thinking. This,off course, led to backwardness in all facets of life. The imams would interpret this backwardness as due to people not following the teachings of Islam closely enough. Following those teachings more closely would in turn lead to more rules. These rules use more of the brain storage capacity, while fear paralyzes what little is left of them. The net result is more backwardness with all its ugly manifestations, and so goes the downward spiral.
Posted by: AMH | September 16, 2008 11:18 PM
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Just weeks before the election, there are questions about a controversial insert published in The Orlando Sentinel. The insert on radical Islam included a 60-minute DVD.
Over 300,000 copies of "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West" went out to Orlando residents as an insert in Sunday's Sentinel. Twenty-eight million copies will go out in swing states nationwide by the end of the week.
The Clarion Fund paid millions of dollars to get the DVD out. It's a non-profit organization that claims to focus on national security. Eyewitness News asked the New York-based group and they would not say exactly how many millions they receive or who their donors are.
THE ANTI-MUSLIM BLOGERS ON THIS PAGE: ARE THEY PART OF THIS ANTI-ISLAM CAMPAIGN?
Posted by: Anonymous | September 16, 2008 5:08 PM
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More information that was not promulgated by WDM:
From Sir Salman Rushdie's book "Satanic Verses", p. 376, paperback issue - for those 1 billion Muslims to read as they are forbidden to purchase or read said book:
an excerpt:
"The faithful lived by lawlessness, but in those years Mahound - or should one say the Archangel Gibreel? - should one say Al-Lah? - became obsessed by law.
Amid the palm-trees of the oasis Gibreel appeared to the Prophet and found himself spouting rules, rules, rules, until the faithful could scarcely bear the prospect of any more revelation, Salman said, rules about every damn thing, if a man farts let him turn his face to the wind, a rule
about which hand to use for the purpose of cleaning one's behind.
It was as if no aspect of human existence was to be left unregulated, free. The revelation - the recitation- told the faithful how much to eat, how deeply they should sleep, and which sexual
positions had received divine sanction, so that they leamed that sodomy and the missionary position were approved of by the archangel, whereas the forbidden postures included all those in which the female was on top.
Gibreel further listed the permitted and forbidden subjects of conversation, and earmarked the parts of the body which could not be scratched no matter how unbearably they might itch. He vetoed the consumption of prawns, those bizarre other-worldly creatures which no member of the faithful had ever seen, and required animals to be killed slowly, by bleeding, so that by experiencing their deaths to the full they
might arrive at an understanding of the meaning of their lives, for it is only at the moment of death that living creatures understand
that life has been real, and not a sort of dream.
And Gibreel the archangel specified the manner in which a man should be buried, and how his property should be divided, so that Salman the Persian got to wondering what manner of God this was that soundedso much like a businessman.
This was when he had the idea that
destroyed his faith, because he recalled that of course Mahound himself had been a businessman, and a damned successful one at that, a person to whom organization and rules came naturally, so
how excessively convenient it was that he should have come up with such a very businesslike archangel, who handed down the management decisions of this highly corporate, if noncorporeal, God."
Comments from all the peace-loving, tolerant Muslims out there???
Posted by: Concerned The Christian Now Liberated | September 16, 2008 2:28 PM
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Beautiful, beautiful article. I am Muslim, in large part, becuase of the teachings of Imam WD Muhammad. Thank you for so eloquently summarizing his contribution to Islam, America and the world. May God have mercy on his soul.
Posted by: Miriam Sharif-Murray | September 16, 2008 12:56 PM
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Beautiful, beautiful article. I am Muslim, in large part, becuase of the teachings of Imam WD Muhammad. Thank you for so eloquently summarizing his contribution to Islam, America and the world. May God have mercy on his soul.
Posted by: Miriam Sharif-Murray | September 16, 2008 12:52 PM
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Beautiful, beautiful article. I am Muslim, in large part, becuase of the teachings of Imam WD Muhammad. Thank you for so eloquently summarizing his contribution to Islam, America and the world. May God have mercy on his soul.
Posted by: Miriam Sharif-Murray | September 16, 2008 12:48 PM
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O'Victoria,
What you should have said was " The fun and feasting of Ramadan is half over. Ramp up the evening/nightly goodies for added slumber during the day."
Posted by: Concerned The Christian Now Liberated | September 16, 2008 10:40 AM
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It is better to pray for millions of muslims who are living in Poverty and under Oppression in their own countries.
Submission brings Poverty!
It is better to pray for the subjugated women in burqas.Doesnt your conscience pain when you see women in black wrap ?
Submission brings Subjugation !
Posted by: halozcel | September 16, 2008 8:38 AM
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Georgiason:
I am a great admirer of the U.S., constitution and am devoutly nationalistic. To all of us, regardless of our faith, America is our home. If America prospers, we all get the benefit (hopefully) and share her prosperity. Right now, we have a financial crisis, and we are all (regardless of skin color, religion etc) should be concerned.
Now, I ask you to look inward at our own history and then try to deal with your question #1. We are in the midst of election. Is religion playing a significant role in this election? Why are evangelicals so excited about Sarah Palin--the Vice Presidential candidate? And what role the churches play in this political process? Do they separate religion with politics in reality?
What views on religion , politics and ethnicity played in our history? Did you ever study the views of our founding fathers from Benjamin Franklin to Thomas Jefferson? Thank God Thomas Jefferson's liberal views prevailed?
So, when it comes to theory and practice, both play a role. Don't they?
I don't have time to answer your other questions. But might come back later.
I do not mean any disrespect to you. We all, you and I included, scratch our heads and try to analyze things without deceiving ourselves.
No doubt, the separation of church and state is the ideal thing for humanity. Why do humans fail to practice it?
Posted by: Anonymous | September 16, 2008 8:34 AM
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Asalaamualaikum all- Ramadan is halfway through.
While you're all comfortably still asleep, muslims all over have had their morning meal, and said their prayers.
I pray for you, for understanding- for hard hearts to soften and angry thoughts to turn to constructive peace.
I hope you all caught the Harvest Moon.
It's only once a year.
peace
Posted by: VICTORIA | September 16, 2008 6:06 AM
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Teaching the compatibility of the Qur'an and the Constitution is certainly a movement in the right direction for Muslims, in contrast to those who proclaim the superiority of the Qur'an. But W.D. Muhammad and his like-minded adherents are dissidents within Islam. They do not represent mainstream, orthodox Islam.
And the devil's in the details. I pose once more my five questions on this very topic of how Islam meshes with the fundamental principles of liberal democracy--the five questions that, in all my years of asking them, only one credible Muslim has ever bothered to try to answer. Pay particular attention to question #5. Would anyone hazard to state what W.D. Muhammad would have said in answer to these questions?
What would the most authoritative voices of Islam say in answer to the five questions posed below. That is, don't give me your personal viewpoint. I want you to tell us what the most authoritative voices of orthodox Islam would say.
Here are the questions:
1.Does Islam allow for the separation of church and state?
2.Does Islam allow for the full legal equality of women?
3.Does Islam allow for religious pluralism? For example, if a Muslim male married a Christian female, would the husband and wife be able to say to their children, “We will attend the mosque on Friday and the church on Sunday and consider ourselves a bi-religious family. When each of you is 18 years old, you will be free to choose. You can continue our bilateral approach; or, you can choose one religion over the other; or, you can choose another religion altogether.”
4.What does Islam say (according to the above authoritative voices) should be the fate of heretics? For example, if a member of the Egyptian soccer team got up tomorrow morning and announced he was converting from Islam to Christianity and changing his name from Mohammad Ali to Cassius Clay, what do the authoritative voices of Islam say should be his fate?
5.Does Islam allow for the publication of a scholarly book alleging that Mohammad was a fraud?
(Alternatively, instead of imagining these questions posed to the authoritative voices of Islam, imagine the question is, “What do Islamic textbooks used in the teaching of Muslim students in America say in answer to these questions?”)
The answers to these questions will reveal whether there is some debate among Muslims over the future of their religion. Or whether even orthodox Islam can be accommodated to a Western liberal, pluralistic society.
Posted by: GeorgiaSon | September 16, 2008 4:44 AM
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America will soo understand that Islam, Christianity and Judaism have got a common root. Islam through prophethood of Mohammad is simply a kind of completion to the original teachings of Jesus, Moses and other prophets (PBUH). See, the below article so beautifully written which I had an opportunity to read through internet:
This is an attempt to invite you to the TRUTH which I am convinced of and which was established from time to time, by different Hindu Vedas, Bible, other Glorious Scriptures and finally by Qur'an. As a true and
intellectually convinced believer of this TRUTH, I hope this communication will help me to discharge my responsibility in conveying the Message.
Yes… My dear… I am inviting you to ISLAM, the Ultimate and Absolute Truth. It is based on absolute monotheism (the doctrine or belief that
there is only one God) which requires cooresponding action in terms of undivided submission or the total surrender of one's self using the freedom given to him to the will of God. This is the meaning of Islam itself. Your reasoning of the truth will find its pathways into Islam. Islam as a comprehensive system and way of life is beautiful like universe. It is a fusion of mercy, power and force. It is the
harmonious synthesis of physique and psyche, soul and soil. It is a beautiful blend of body and mind, movement and meditation. It is an
assimilation of Love and Law. Heaven and earth assemble there and make a melodious symphony of human life out of it. It is a sweet sonata of
submission of one's will to the will of God by serving and sacrificing for the wellbeing of humanity. It is devotion to God by dedicating
ourselves for the welfare of the world. Islam is all about life and for the life. It is both struggle and service and success thereof. It
frees us from all kinds of servitude and narrowness and elevates us to the ever widening breadth of the universe. Quranically, in nutshell, it is natural face of human being and it is human face of the universe. We human being can align with the mainstream of the
universe only through Islam which means integral and undivided surrendering of our will to the will of God using the freedom given to us in a thoughtful way.
Quran, the final testament revealed to Mohammad for whole of humanity to guide how to operate human life on the earth, declares that the
cardinal belief of all the Prophets, including MUHAMMED(PBUH), JESUS(PBUH), MOSHE(PBUH), ABRAHAM… who came in the different parts of
the world at different times was nothing other than this. This Prophet-hood is finalized by Muhammed (PBUH). Further more, Quran
unequivocally says (3: 81-82) each and every prophet who came to guide people before Mohammad (PBUH) had foretold the coming of a final
prophet with a final testament.
For example, you may refer to the following verses for further clarification in this regard.
Just see 2+2 = 4 like example below from Bible for your ready reference.
Genesis 21: 21 says ishmael grew in the deseart of Paran where God had created a well/stream under his feet for Hagar ( Genesis 21: 17-19).
(Paran is Mecca where we see ZamZam Well. History of Arabs, the descendants of Ishamel, also confirms it).
Habakuk 3:3 says " God comes from Tema, And the Holy One from Mount Paran" (Considering Paran is Mecca, who is the holyone from Mount Paran? Please bear in mind Prophet Mohammad got revealation from a mountain ( Jabal Al-Nur) in Mecca.
In Deutronomy 33:2 "The Lord came from Sinai, And dawned on them from Seir; He shone forth from Mount Paran, And He came from the midst of
ten thousand holy ones (when Prophet Mohammad had conquered Mecca, there were ten thousand holy warriors with him); At His right hand
there was flashing lightning for them" .
Isaia 21: 13-16 speaks on an Oracle about Arabia. This prediction is historically about migration of propphet Mohammad and Followers to
Medina and a War ( war of Al-Bader) that was waged by Meccan pagans against Prophet and followers after ayear in which Prophet and
Followers in Medina became victorious.
For further references in Bible you may go through the following verses also among others.
Bible (Song of Solomon chapter 5 : 16; Deut. 18: 18-20; 32:21; 33:2; Psalms 84:4-6; Isaiah 21: 13-16; 28: 10-13; 29:12; 41:29; 42: 1-17;
HAGGAI:2:6-9; HABAKUK 3:1-7;Matthew 21:42-44; John 14:16; 15:26;16:5-14).
(Bhavishya Puran, Prati Sarg Parv III: 3, 3, Verse 5-27; Rig Veda: 1) VII: 96, Mantras 13 through 16, and (2) I: 53, Mantras 6 and 9; Sama Veda III: 10, Mantra 1). Atharva Veda: (1) XX: 21, Mantras 6, 7, and 9, (2) XX: 137, Mantras 7
through 9, and (3) X: 2, Mantras 26, 27, 29, 30, and 32
You may also refer a book written by Pundit Veda Prakash Upadhyay (former Professor of Sanskrit in Jaipur Univesrtiry) proving Kalki is
Mohammad.
Once you are intellectually convinced of Mohammad's prophethood, it will be very easy to locate deviations and distortions that took place
in the history of religions and manipulations and interpolation that took place in the revealed scriptures.
I humbly and earnestly invite you again to this TRUTH which requires belief with knowledge and knowledge with a standing proof. Prophet
Mohammad's life (the final prophet) can be read in the complete light of the history. It is not a myth. Quran as a PROOF, CONSTITUTION
and an Operating CATALOGUE is in front of the universe in the original form without any alterations or changes. Islam will save me,
you and all both in this mundane and the Here-afterlife.
As I stated initially, my role as a conveyor of the truth to you has been fulfilled by this e-mail communication. Now its your turn to hear, listen and think over this subject very seriously. If you have any question or query, please don't hesitate to write to
harmoniousway@gmail.com
Posted by: Johncivillo | September 16, 2008 3:31 AM
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From Ayaan Hirsi Ali's autobiography, Infidel:
p.68:
"The Pakistanis were Muslims but they too had castes. The Untouchable girls, both Indian and Pakistani were darker skin. The others would not play with them because they were untouchable. We thought that was funny because of course they
were touchable: we touched them see? but also horrifying to think of yourself as untouchable, despicable to the human race."
p.309
"Between October 2004 and May 2005, eleven Muslim girls were killed by their families in just two regions (there are 20 regions in Holland). After that, people stopped telling me I was exaggerating."
Posted by: Concerned The Christian Now Liberated | September 16, 2008 12:14 AM
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When muslims reach to 10 per cent of US population,everyone will see *islam's honorable teaching* and what is going on in America.
Yes,islam/submission will *so beautiffuly erase*(as previous blogger wrote very well) US society and replace shariah society instead of Contemporary Values and Human Rights.
You shall see,yes you shall see *honorable men* when submission come to US and everyone shall understand how *interfaith* provided Bridgehead to *so beautiffuly ERASERS*
Posted by: halozcel | September 16, 2008 12:13 AM
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Eboo,
This is a great piece. The hateful demagogues that jump on every comment thread here are so far on the wrong side of history that you need pay them no heed. One of the difficulties in the American Muslim experience is that racial segregation, which Islam so beautifully helps to erase in other societies, still finds itself in the attendance of mosques and Islamic centers here due to the country's difficult history with race. By rightfully honoring all of the great Muslim American leaders - including the many who happen to be African American - all Muslim Americans can be united in Islam's honorable teachings and come together to pay our respects. Thank you for yet another thought-provoking and compelling article.
Posted by: Not Taking the Bait | September 15, 2008 5:45 PM
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Att: A R i F & similary situated:
Note: If Mr. Prezident OBAMA & Mr. vPrez BiDEN 'Affirms' (instead of 'Swears') on the U.S. [A Holy Miracle in Its own rights] CONSTiTUTiON; then SECULAR History & Prophecy will all come into Place for a Better World to Love & Live in! Hence ushering-in H.O.P.E. for that "ONE Universal Religion of Everything!"
Note again: Correction; Those 'Swearings' in or outs with the Quran/Koran during Bill Clintons Innaugaration ye are reffering bout, is not TRUE (opposite of MYTH). It was SYMBOLiCALLy Done, not Directly done; either After the Biblical Innaguration or After the Biblio Innaugaration or Awering in Oaths!
Please Know That ALL, EVERY & ANY Islamic-Country's so called [Secular?] National CONSTiTUTiONS hath god & or Allah & Islam somwhere in Them.
Examples: Please See or Compare:
Palistinian Constitution"
Excerpt: "ARTICLE 49
Before taking on any responsibility, every Member shall swear the following oath before the Council: "I swear by Allah Almighty to be faithful to the Homeland, and to preserve the rights and interests of the people and nation, and to respect law and perform my duties in the best manner, as Allah is my witness".
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Palestine_(2003)
Note: Interestingly, SECULAR-ISRAEL, aka Zionist State of Israel, Does not hath ANY Judeo"JUDAIsM' , nor Jude-Christianism, as a State Religion! Puruley Church/HALAKAH (same as Sharia) are forever Seperated from State, Unlike The Arabs surrounding themselves in Judeo-Islam!.
AND SEE:
Iraqi Constitution:
Excerpt: "Article 4 [State Religion] Islam is the religion of the State .... Article 39 [Oath] The President of the Revolutionary Command Council, the Vice-President and the members take the following oath before the Council: "I swear by Allah almighty.."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Constitution
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Soo,
VOTE: Abolish "Theocracy & Monarchy on Space-Ship Earth 1st, ASAP! and
VOTE: For the inevitable "SiNGULARiTY" [never-PLURALiTY of their (not O.U.R.) god(s) & Goddes(s) Flavors] of All , man-made (not innate) Religions SYSTEM(s) on Hol{i} Cosmic Nebula Built Space-Ship Earth(s), of Many,
NOT Tenach(s) Pasuk, not Bible(s) scripts, not Qurans Suras, not Gita(s)Stanzas, nor their (not O.U.R.) Scruti's, not Kangyurs, not Tripitakas etc..!
Note: O.U.R. goal is to Usher-in 'Healing of Nations', Global Peace & Many Good Tidings, And Ultimately Winn the NOBEL PEACE PRiZE & or the TEMPLETON Prizes etc..! THUS,
Say Goodbye to All Ye "PELEG"ian Eberu's hassling over a name for god instead of Source-One! aka EONYMOUS EKCLAT +"i" = LiFE/Photons awareness
Goodbye Judeo-JU's! (Jerusalem..)
Goodbye Judeo-Christs! (Vatican, Canterburry, Hellenicals..)
Goodbye-Judeo-Islamics! (Mecca..)
Goodbye Judeo-Hindu's! (Nepal, Delhi, Armistar, ..)
Goodbye Judeo-Buddhists! (Tibet, Shangrala,,)
Goodbye Pre-Apocalyptic Pagans, Wiccaans, Witches, Shamans, Voodists etc..!
iNSTEAD, sayth HELLO:
"E-K-L-A-H-T-{ARiAN)" Proletariat Nationalis Movement on Space-Ship Holy Earth" of many: Where Each "HU{MATE}" Creature Kind, not like Ye Pre-Apocalyp[tic inferior thinking HUMAN-Un-Kinds, , are aka SPORADE (Lady/a) & a MAVORiTE (Man/o), whom
are "AUTOMATiC CiTiZENS & DENIZENS" of O.U.R. Holy Cosmic built S.pace-S.hip EARTH of Many!, aka S.S. GAiA, aka S.S. GEOiD, aka Planet S.S. TELLUSng something!
Remember: We are the SON(s) & DAUGHTER(s) Of the Creator of PHOTONS/LiFE = [Lord, G-d, Ishvara, Allah, Yawh, Jehova, Buddha..] EKLAHT + "i" [YE]!
HALALUYA! Praise The Hol{i}-No-Wo-MEN!
PEACE, Paz, Salaam, Shalom, Ahimsa, Zhingyu...!
Posted by: Att: A R i F & similary situated: | September 15, 2008 3:34 PM
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What MD Muhammad failed to mention:
Ayaan Hirsi Ali's autobiography, Infidel:
some excerpts (paperback edition)-
four excerpts:
p. 47 paperback issue:
"Some of the Saudi women in our neighborhood were regularly beaten by their husbands. You could hear them at night. Their screams resounded across the courtyards. "No! Please! By Allah!"
p.68:
"The Pakistanis were Muslims but they too had castes. The Untouchable girls, both Indian and Pakistani were darker skin. The others would not play with them because they were untouchable. We thought that was funny because of course they
were touchable: we touched them see? but also horrifying to think of yourself as untouchable, despicable to the human race."
p.309
"Between October 2004 and May 2005, eleven Muslim girls were killed by their families in just two regions (there are 20 regions in Holland). After that, people stopped telling me I was exaggerating."
p. 347
"The kind on thinking I saw in Saudi Arabia and among the Brotherhood of Kenya and Somalia, is incompatible with human rights and liberal values. It preserves the feudal mind-set based
on tribal concepts of honor and shame. It rests on self-deception, hyprocricy, and double standards. It relies on the technologial
advances of the West while pretending to ignore their origin in Western thinking. This mind-set makes the transition to modernity very painful for all who practice Islam".
Posted by: Concerned The Christian Now Liberated | September 15, 2008 3:12 PM
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"He was the first American Muslim to deliver an invocation in the United States Senate, and offered a Muslim prayer at both of President Clinton's inauguration ceremonies. "
The Muslim world prays for an Obama victory, they are drooling at the possibility of this happening. I am sure they also will secure a place on the podium when and if an Obama swearing in takes place. There will for sure be an immam or two grining with a koran in hand. Victory, and the famous terrorist chant Allah-hu-Akbar will be heard indeed.
It is a dream for Muslims to be part of the American president swearing in ceremony, Oh how close they may well be. Poor Obama, him and his party may or may not be knowing what's in store for them from the muslim if they win.
Posted by: Arif | September 15, 2008 2:46 PM
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Eboo says:
"Elijah Muhammad, who had used a twisted interpretation of Islam as the spark to build a large and disciplined black separatist movement.”
Elijah Mohd was simply following a tradition that had been started by Mohammad bin Abdullah , aka the Prophet, aka The Messenger of Allah.
The tradition is of using a political ideology, wrapped in a religious shroud to promulgate it, especially among ignorant people, is mainly for the sake of wealth and power. While Communism, for example, tried to spread its ideology and influence by claiming that it liberates the working classes from the those who own the centers of power, Islam preaches gardens with flowing rivers of milk and wine and receptive dark eyed Houris for the foot soldiers. As for the leaders and their senior helpers there are the prospects of paradise on earth.
Elijah Mohd was not the first to emulate the Prophet of Arabia in his drive for power. History is full of such imitators who had built tremendous wealth and power using that routine. There were the Arab caliphs first. Then the Turkish caliphs assumed the title and used it to build an empire that was mostly financed by the taxes of the Arabs and defended and expanded with the blood of their children.
The Sunusi family repeated this drama in Libya. The Mahdi in Sudan. The Hashemites and later the Saudis in Hijaz. Then Elijah Mohammad in the USA.
Eboo describes the ministry of Elijah as “TWISTED” because Elijah made the mistake of claiming himself a prophet, when the original prophet had declared himself to be the last of the prophets. The others were more careful to take other titles than prophet, such as “Mahdi,” the “Shadow of Allah “, “Caliph” etc. Off course also Elijah deifying a white man by the name of Fard did not help.
Posted by: Ibrahim Mahfouz | September 15, 2008 2:05 PM
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" Krishna Reddy wrote:
If mainstream Islam is not separatism and terror, then can you explain 57 exclusive Islamic nations in the world and daily incidents of Islamic terror, including in your home country of India. You never speak against those intolerance and terror, but are upset when Muslims are targeted in return."
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Politics is a dirty game. Not too long ago, Hindu Janta Party workers got caught making bombs in their homes in India's big city, Kanpur.
There is a world wide conspiracy against Muslims. I can not rule out that after 9/11 some political parties and the intelligence agencies of some anti-Muslim countries are behind such occurances to malign Muslims world wide.
That said, I condemn Muslim fanatics also who indulge in anti-human activities.
India is world's largest democracy. Most Hindus are good people. But there are elements in India who belong to fanatic Hindu parties, like Shiva Sena, RSS, BJP, Bajrang Dal that are virulent against Christians, Muslims, and Dalits (the untouchables). Look how they are killing Christians and burning churches in Orissa, India.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:32 PM
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Eboo said:
"Dr. Umar cites the Qur'an and Islamic tradition on the importance of building a big tent Muslim community that includes people of all racial, ethnic and theological persuasions"
And then force the community "members" of non-Muslim "theological persuasions" to convert, pay protection money, or die:
“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book [Christians and Jews] until they pay the Jizya [the special tax on non-Muslims] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued”.
-- Qur'an 9:29
Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:26 PM
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If mainstream Islam is not separatism and terror, then can you explain 57 exclusive Islamic nations in the world and daily incidents of Islamic terror, including in your home country of India. You never speak against those intolerance and terror, but are upset when Muslims are targeted in return.
Give us a break from your double-standards and hypocrisy.
Posted by: Krishna Reddy | September 15, 2008 11:33 AM
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"The idea of human dignity that the Constitution expresses is ... in accord with the concept of man in the Qur'an ..." he told his community. "
How do people get away by making statements like this? How can such lies be allowed? The American Constitution is light years ahead of the koran. The Constitution does NOT distinguish between individuals based upon religion, color, gender and above all else no-religion. The Constitution upholds human dignity while that outdated Arabic scroll you call sacred categorically does not.
Then this...
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'I would not exist if it was not for Imam Muhammad,' Dr. Umar told the crowd at the Museum of Science and Industry event. "
When people make such statements about leaders or prophets or religious people I wonder about them. Free people exist because they do and should not ever owe their existence to some person they imagine are perfect.
Arif
Posted by: Arif | September 15, 2008 11:23 AM
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Hello Mr. [Dr.] Eboo Patel:
Ye wrote?:
"Inspired by Malcolm X, Umar Abd-Allah converted to Islam in the early 1970s and came to the University of Chicago, on the city's south side, to do a PhD in Islamic Studies.."
Question: Did Mozeus or Jesus or Muhammad or Vyasa or Gautama ot Confucus ... have a Divinity Degree?? IMPORTANT:
Under: Catholic America; WAPO Moderator] Anthony Stevens-Arroyo] recent article, states that 'Once a Catholic, always a Catholic; even when ,folks like Sara PALiN & John McCains, becdome apostate/converters..." [Similar said or implied].
Same as saying, "Once a Judeo-Ju, always a Jew!???
So, Mr. Umar Abd-Allah, was a Christian & therefore Can Never be Considered, according to Anthony Stevens-Arroyo, a Catholic Rep/Agent for Vatican (who Pre-Apocalypticaly Equates their, not OUR, Bible/Morality as if Creationed with OUR MODERN Morality/Science that evolved for +/- 4.98 Billion Years) That
Once a Christian (as in Umar Abd-Allah), then always a Christian, not Muslom/Moslem/Moslum.
Interesting & Biblically/Quranic/Gitaly speaking;
That Character ISHMAEL [Hagars, not Saras, Dark Haired & wild Son, via Poppa Abraham] is NOT! NOT, The Son of Sara & Abraham!
So Sarai {besides the SARA PROSTiTUTiON Storys in ye Bibles, not OUR} is the Mother of ISAAC & thus ISRAEL [JACOB], not Ishmael, nor HAGAR {a Ham Cannanite servent, Maid, slave & Palistinian}.
Interestingly: And for the same reason, ESAU (a 100% Judeo-Jew, is not of the Arab Idol Worshipers 'Ishmael' (50% Judeo-Ju Palistinian).
Remember the saying, "i" Loved Jacob [a Peleg] & "i" Hate ESAU" [a Peleg]???
ESAU is zero Arab!!! Only ISHMAEL is Arab, who is 1/2 Palistinian & 1/2 Eberu! Note: sometimes "i" don't understand why Indonesia & Malaysia can'y see this?!.
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India The so called biggest Democracy
Gujarat committing atrocities on tribal Muslims in Dangs
KT NEWS SERVICE
NEW DELHI, Sept 19: If someone felt after the Gujarat carnage was over, the riot affected Muslims are being taken care of by the state government, Dangs village provides an insight into how the complicit Gujarat administration is committing atrocities on the tribal Muslims and forcing them to get converted for living a safe life.
The Combat Human Rights Forum's fact-finding team visited the distressed Muslim tribal villagers in the Dangs district of southern Gujarat. These villagers have been forced into the forest by a complicit Gujarat administration for the last ten days.
The team found that more than 150 houses have been damaged by brutal police action forcing children and women to flee into the forest. DSP Pathak and District Magistrate have been served with a fax notice by the CHRF team warning that the action of the state administration amounted to a complete violation of the Gujarat High Court order.
The order calls for a status quo and has been obtained by the aggrieved Muslims who have been living in this village for the past hundred years. Ironically on Friday September 5, Teesta Setalvad had personally spoken to IG Surat Range Shivananad Jha (who also heads the Godhra re-Investigations by the Special Investigation Team appointed by the Supreme Court) and he had "said that the situation was normal and no atrocities had been committed on the people." The report of the CHRF team belies this assurance.
The CHRF team consisted of senior Dalit Panther activist and journalist, Suresh Bhonsale, activists Sumedh Jadhav and Avinash Kamble (Communalism Combat, Mumbai). CHRF team faxed a letter at 9.30 a.m. this morning warning that torture, beating, physical intimidation and forcible conversion allegedly also by forest officials, taluka officials, policemen egged on by fanatic extremists like the Vishwa Hindu Parishad amounted to outright contempt and violation of the abovementioned court order.
The team that arrived in Dangs on Wednesday evening spent the night in the village and assuaged the distressed villagers. Bhonsale told the team that the condition of women and children was terrible and they had been starved for nearly ten days. It was reported to team that a battery of forest officers and police descended on the village of Nandapeda near Ahwa in the Dangs, Gujarat.
They pulled out the doors, windows, wooden ballis which support the roof and wood from the roof of the huts of the villagers on the pretext that forest department had decided that it was illegal wood and they must recover it. The Gujarat ATS meanwhile rounded up a few people and conducted intimidatory arrests.
Nandapeda is the only village with majority Muslim population in the Dangs district. It is considered the poorest district in the whole of India. The families have been living in the village for over 100 years. From the reports made orally, the CHRF team has concluded that state government officials have has been pressurizing the Muslims to convert to the Hindu religion or face eviction from their land.
Some of the residents of this village moved the Gujarat High Court against the government's pressure of converting and changing their religion. The Citizens for Justice and Peace (CJP) had assisted this legal initiative and a stay obtained from the Gujarat High Court.
According to CHRF, the shocking thing about the developments in Dangs is that the petitioners had alleged a month ago that the state of Gujarat officials were behaving in an unconstitutional fashion and coercing poor people to convert to Hinduism. The petitioners were Ahmedbhai Dalaabhai Vani, Noormahammed Musabhai Vani, Ibrahimbhai Kalubhai Vanzari, Yusuf Bhai Rasoolbhai Aagevan, Razzak Radakiya Nayak, Ahmed Radakiya Nayak, Saiyed Danubhai Vani, Gafoorbhai Ismailbhai Chauhan, Ibrahimbhai Ahmedbhai, Shabbirbhai Bhaliyabhai Vani, Ghulam Rustam Vani, The petitioners have stated that they are residing in village Nandanpeda of district Daang since long back and the land, upon which the petitioners are residing, is in possession of the petitioners and their ancestors since about 100 years.
They have further alleged that the In-Charge Secretary of the Dang District had called the petitioners at the Circuit House at Ahwa in Dang at 4.30 pm on June 13, 2008 in presence of the Sarpanch of Village Nanderpeda and others and asked them to change their religion and faith and convert themselves as "Adivasi".
He has further threatened them that if they defy the authorities they shall have to face 'dire' consequences and would be forcefully evacuated. Other Respondents in the special application were The Collector of the District, and the Mamlatdar.
CHRF further says that there are unconfirmed reports that on June 13, 2008 a senior officer had called a meeting in Ahwa and asked them to change their religion or vacate the land. CHRF has claimed that it is in possession of photographs showing the damages and a VHP leader making inflammatory speeches.
CHRF has also written a letter to Prime Minister Dr.Manmohan Singh seeking his intervention to undo the wrong being perpetuated by the Gujarat administration.
Following is the text of the letter:
To,
The Prime Minister
Dr Manmohan Singh
Government of India
Dear Sir,
Two villages in the Dangs district, dominated by the Muslim minority have been subject to brute police torture (photographs attached) and villagers forced into the forests. Speaking to the writer IG Gujarat Shivanand Jha said that everything was under control but this appears to be administrative gloss.
The Combat Human Rights Forum (CHRF) has dispatched a fact-finding team late last night consisting of Suresh Bhosle, a Dalit Panthers activist, Sumedh Jadhav and Avinash Kamble. The report will be submitted before the media at the earliest,
It has been reported to us directly that this morning a battery of Forest officers and police descended on the village of Nandapeda near Ahwa in the Dangs, Gujarat. They pulled out the doors and the windows, pulled out the wooden ballis which support the roof; they pulled out wood from the roof of the huts of the villagers.
The forest department decided late night that it was illegal wood and they must recover it. The Gujarat ATS meanwhile rounded up a few people.
Nandapeda is the only village with majority Muslim population in the Dangs district, considered the poorest district in the whole of India. The families have been living in the village for over 100 years. From the reports made orally (that need to be verified) it appears that state government officials have has been pressurizing the Muslims to convert to the Hindu religion or face eviction from their land.
Some of the residents of this village moved the Gujarat High Court against the government's pressure of converting and changing their religion. The CJP had assisted this legal initiative and a stay obtained from the Gujarat HC.
There are unconfirmed reports that on June 13, 2008 a senior officer had called a meeting in Ahwa and asked them to change their religion or vacate the land. CCHRF is in possession of photographs showing the damages and a VHP leader making inflammatory speeches. Many of the poor people have been put in jail.
After this meeting police and forest officers had been harassing them. Police have been searching old cases registered against any person of the community and asking them to furnish bail papers. The police targeted 33 people against whom some petty crime or a scuffle with the neighbors was registered.
Claiming that repeated representation before authorities for regularization of their land has been in vain, petitioners requested the court to restrain the government from pressurizing them to convert from their religion. Justice Jayant Panchal had in July sought explanation in this regard from the secretary in-charge, district collector and the village sarpanch.
After hearing all parties, Justice Anant Dave admitted the case on September 11, 2008 and ordered to maintain status quo on the disputed land. On the next day the police captured approximately 80 villagers for transporting cattle into Maharashtra and also apprehended some villagers who were going on motorcycles using the reason of cow slaughter, though there were no cattle in the tempo.
The villagers gathered. There was a clash between the villagers and the police. People were beaten on both the sides. One policeman was also beaten up. Police then opened fire and a number of villagers got bullet injuries. They were taken to Ahwa civil hospitals. The relatives were not allowed to meet them. Police apprehended eight villagers for beating a policeman and though a local lawyer went for their bail, it was not given.
Next day the police came and in the name of combing operation attacked and ransacked the village. Villagers were beaten up brutally including women and children. All men fled to the jungles. The police not only took away all the goods but before going they poured kerosene into the eatable good so that they could not eat anything too.
VHP proposed a rally on September 15. After a lot of pressure the VHP rally was stopped but they declared a Bandh on September 16, 2008. The VHP gave a deadline to the collector it is heard to get the village vacated. (Inflammatory speeches by the VHP are in our possession)
We urge that urgent action is taken in this regard.
Teesta Setalvad, Suresh Bhosale, Sumedh Jadhav, Avinash Kamble
Citizens for Justice and Peace
Combat Human Rights Forum