As always, Farnaz and Observer make loud ugly accusations of racism then disappear when challenged to prove it with previous posts.
Looked hard did you two?
Couldn't find anything?

hsnkhwj wrote:
How is President-elect Obama going to deal with Hindu terrorism in India?
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He doesnt need to, the Govt. of India and Govt. of Maharashtra are investigating the case and if found guilty the Lt. Col will be prosecuted.

Again it is not the Jewish, Pagan or even Catholic voting blocs anymore. And it will stay this way for the foreseeable future.

To wit: It is,

"The 70 million "mothers and fathers of aborted children" whose ranks grow by two million per year. They easily put President-elect Obama in the Blood Red House!!!!" ???

(35+million abortions in the last 35 years i.e Roe vs Wade was decided in 1973. Each abortion involved three people, one was killed and two lived i.e 70+million voting adults.)

When I saw the white senior citizens looking with respect nd hope at Obama in his informercial- I cried. Because I have waited all of my life to see such a sight. And last night, when Obama thanked his white cmapaign manager, Plouffe- an african american man in the audience appeared startled when he heard his name and started applauding wildly- and crying- for a white man.
And the circle was complete.
So I cried again. One big joyful tearfest.

The power of the new and real hope that ihave for my country's future right now completely overwhelms any petty disagreements.

As Obama picks his new cabinet- I am seeing the GOP on Fox revising histroy as it is happening, now they are quickly moving away from, and blaming the Dens for the balout.

Remeber a few scant weeks ago when the GOP members refused to vote?

I said to my husband at that time that they were setting the Dems up to take the enitre fall fo the debacle- becuase later- if it doesn;t go well- they can say they stood against it.

It was a disgusting display of self interest and ambition trumping national interest in a time of crisis.
And today, I turn on Fox (as I do sometimes to see what new nonsense they are concocting)
and a roundtable is sitting there BLAMING Obama for the bailout, and he isn't even IN OFFICE YET!

The GOP is a mess, and being the losing side after a campaign, the blame game and finger pointing is flying.

It is despicable- but we can expect more.
We need to pay attnetion to things as they are happening- because the GOP wants blood-

I don't remember any time that the Dems held the Senate and House majority and the Oval Office at the same time.
Does anyone know?
I'll ask answers.

FARNAZ-

Here is the original post Nov 5, 11:30AM

"Because I have waited all of my life to see such a sight. And last night, when Obama thanked his white cmapaign manager, Plouffe- an african american man in the audience appeared startled when he heard his name and started applauding wildly- and crying- for a white man.
And the circle was complete."

The observer told me Plouffe is Jewish, so I thanked him and revised it to accent the jewish part- as I didn't know that.

No Muslim here has EVER questioned my sincerity.
The only people who have ever been so derogatory- are you and Observer.

Because I dared to suggest that Israel, like any perosn, like any country, has culpability.

"Watch how quickly people will scream anti-semitism at the slightest hint that Israel has some culpability in it's own actions"

And I am vigilant about NEVER calling anyone any mnames- I have called CCNL a "goofball" on rare occasions, but only couched within other gentle and affectionate words.

So, cut and paste way- you will not find any support to any of your claims-
Several times I have challenged you to prove it with my own words, and several times you have mysteriously disappeared only to pop up somehwere else with the same tired accusations.

And I am not Italian- or even close to it.

And finally- YOU CANNOT BRING ME DOWN!
COME TO THE LIGHT!

There is a whole world out there- and a new wind blowing in the air- racism, bigotry- islamophobia- are assuredly going to become less and less acceptable.

Stop projecting.

Hi Sparrow4,

The reason some bloggers, including yours truly, have difficulty with Bigotoria is that she is a rabid anti-Jewish racist and has so demonstrated over the years. Her only defense is empty name-calling, which no one believes, since I and others she's targeted have risen up again and again in defense of Muslims with posts easily retreived, cut, and pasted. She has been accused of lying about just about everything by numerous bloggers, including Muslims, who don't believer she's Muslim.

She is an Italian-American Catholic Muslim Wannabee with old-style anti-semitism of the Jewish conspiracy variety. Here is a recent Bigotoria post from one of Jacques' Berlinerblau's threads. Just below it I post one from this very thread.
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Victoria :

CCNL- you asked-

"Again, as Observer12 noted previously, the Jewish population in the USA is about 1.5%. So again, why is this discussion going on???

Because there is a disproportianate (to the poluation)) over-representation of Jewish politicans in Congress, for one- 43 out of 435- a full 10%-
and from the 2nd largest lobby group in America AIPAC- the American Israel Public Affairs Committee- the biggest influence peddlars.

So it is not a matter of demographics- but the power held, that makes the Jewish (Israel) position so improtant.

No politician can get elected as POTUS without th blessings of AIPAC, and a strong support of Israel first-

As you can see, one can be accused of being Anti-American, and that is okay- but one cannot be Anti-Israel. Period.
One cannot even suggest that Israel be half repsonsible for their own country.
It is all or nothing.
Watch how quickly people will scream anti-semitism at the slightest hint that Israel has some culpability in it's own actions.
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October 31, 2008 3:05 PM | Report Offensive Comment
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have waited all of my life to see such a sight. And last night, when Obama thanked his white JEWISH campaign manager, Plouffe- an african american man in the audience appeared visibly startled when he heard his name and started applauding wildly- and crying- for a white JEWISH man.
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Sparrow,
Can you believe this. On top of everything, she immediately assumes, racist that she is, that the "black man" is NOT Jewish!!!

From Farnaz-
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"Bigotoria,

So now Jews are white, are we? You sad, sad racist."
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"And last night, when Obama thanked his white JEWISH campaign manager, Plouffe-"

How did you manage to get through 2 years of Obama's campaign and not know that his campaign manager, Plouffe- is white???????

OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!

Thanks Sparrow-
"maybe I'm missing something but why is everyone jumping all over Astoria for celebrating the amazing unity and virtual colorblindness of that one historic evening"

It is just FARNAZ and OBSERVER-

They are deidcate Muslim haters and since I'm pretty much the only Muslim who has stuck around these boards with any ocnsistency- (Jihadist shows up once in a blue moon)
they wad all that concentrated bigotry up and when they see my name and throw it on me-

Whatcha gonna do!

Has anyone seen this new website yet?

http://change.gov/

It is Obama's offical gov site- accountability in the government!
What a brilliant idea!
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

Paganplace, Paganplace, Paganplace,

What is it you do not understand about:

"The 70 million "mothers and fathers of aborted children" whose ranks grow by two million per year. They easily put President-elect Obama in the Blood Red House!!!!" ???

(35+million abortions in the last 35 years i.e Roe vs Wade was decided in 1973. Each abortion involved three people, one was killed and two lived i.e 70+million voting adults.)

I dunno, Sparrow, but I suspect CCNL is past due to meet some human beings in person, ...whatever he's saying, it's quite removed from any semblance of current events.

maybe I'm missing something but why is everyone jumping all over Astoria for celebrating the amazing unity and virtual colorblindness of that one historic evening? Maybe it only lasts for a night, or a week or a month- but boy! That was one spectacularly magical night.

I happen to be a white Jew- I live in a mostly African-American neighborhood and I was out there fistbumping with the home boys on my corner. And cheering. It's not exclusionary- everyone was at the party on Tuesday night (ok....maybe not the republicans).

The New American Gospel??

No, it is the New American Voting Bloc!!

The fastest growing voting bloc in the USA? :

The 70 million "mothers and fathers of aborted children" whose ranks grow by two million per year. They easily put President-elect Obama in the Blood Red House!!!!

You all keep going on about the problems of the world. People the world brought it on its self. Mankind is a puny animal that is both bound and courageous. He is bound to the bow and arrow road. The only thing that is valiant about this is that he has courage. The courage to take on hell itself, rip up the quaking flagstones and shout a lurid, obscene jest at the keeper of the damned. The sad thing for all of us (mankind) is we can walk no other path but the bow and arrow road. If you want to solve that problem hit your knees and ask God to repent again and this time to spare no Noah

You all keep going on about the problems of the world. People the world brought it on its self. Mankind is a puny animal that is both bound and courageous. He is bound to the bow and arrow road. The only thing that is valiant about this is that he has courage. The courage to take on hell itself, rip up the quaking flagstones and shout a lurid, obscene jest at the keeper of the damned. The sad thing for all of us (mankind) is we can walk no other path but the bow and arrow road. If you want to solve that problem hit your knees and ask God to repent again and this time to spare no Noah.

Bigotoria,

So now Jews are white, are we? You sad, sad racist.

PetroDollar Scam

Back in 1971, the USA printed and spent far more paper money than it could cover by gold.

Few years later, French demanded redemption of its paper-dollar holdings in gold. But the USA rejected as it actually didn't had enough gold for the dollars it had already printed and spent all over the world, thus committing an act of bankruptcy.

So the USA went to the Saudis and cut a deal – OPEC denominate all sales of oil in US dollars.

From that point, every nation that needed to buy oil had to firstly hold US dollars, which meant that they exchanged their goods and services for dollars, which the Americans just printed.

The Americans brought their oil literally for free by printing those dollars. The ultimate free lunch for the Americans at the expense of the rest of the world.

However, the scam began to unravel when Saddam Hussein started selling Iraq's oil directly for Euro, abrogating the cozy arrangement the Americans had with OPEC. Thus Saddam had to be stopped. How?

USA concocted up a pretext to wage war (drama of twin tower blast) and invade Iraq and the first thing the Americans did was to revert sales of oil back to dollars. The currency crisis was averted for the moment.

But Hugo Chavez (Venezuela President) also started selling Venezuelan oil for currencies other than dollars, so there were a number of attempts on his life and "regime change", traceable right back to the CIA. The petrodollar cat was out of the bag.

Iran President (Ahmedinejad), watching all of this, decided to kick The Great Satan in the goo lies and do the same thing - sell oil for every currency EXCEPT US dollars.

The shell game is coming to an end for the Americans. As the nations of the world find that they can buy oil for their own currencies instead of holding paper US dollars, more OPEC nations will abandon the dollar.

The worst thing for the Americans is that eventually, they will also have to buy their oil with Euro or Rubles instead of just printing paper money to get it.

That will be the end of the American Empire, the end of funding for the US military and the destruction of the US economy.

The great scam is coming to an end and there's not a lot that the USA can do about it, except start another world war!!!

Wait and Watch… Only few years/months ahead.

http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/phildavi-97317-Petrodollar-Scam-Education-ppt-powerpoint/

Daniel,

Actually, I'm really not jealous of anyone. If Obama stated that we "all" need to sacrifice, as Arminius pointed out, I'm just a little curious about the "sacrifice" Obama is referring to.

Perhaps you can elaborate?

Remember, treat eveyone fairly, but not equal.

THAKS OBSERVER- I DIDNT KNOW THAT.
YOUVE ALREADY POSTED THIS EVERYHWERE ANYWAY.

I have waited all of my life to see such a sight. And last night, when Obama thanked his white JEWISH campaign manager, Plouffe- an african american man in the audience appeared visibly startled when he heard his name and started applauding wildly- and crying- for a white JEWISH man.
And the circle was complete.
So I cried again. One big joyful tearfest.

WOW! NOW ITS EVEN BETTER!

YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

DON'T FORGET RAHM EMANUEL!
RAHM! RAHM! RAHM!!!! GOOGEL HIM OBSERVER
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGLE HIM!
DO IT DO IT DO IT!

THE KINGMAKER! THE GENIUS BEHIND THE MAN!
HE ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS!

YAY - YOUR HATRED IS BORING OBSERVER!
IT IS A NEW DAY- LEAVE THAT GARBAGE BEHIND YOU!
COME TO THE LIGHT!

OBAMA!

I'M GOIN TO START WEARING BIG OVERSIZED JEWELRY LIKE MICHELLE!

MICHELLE O IN THE RETURN TO CAMELOT!
NEW FASHIONISTA OF AMERICA!

WHOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

How is President-elect Obama going to deal with Hindu terrorism in India? Read on:

Malegaon case: Army officer held

For the first time ever, a serving officer of the Indian Army has been arrested in connection with a terrorism attack in India.

The Anti Terrorism Squad (ATS) of Maharashtra arrested Lieutenant Colonel Srikant Prasad Purohit on Wednesday for his alleged involvement in the September 29 Malegaon blast that killed four people.

Purohit was produced before the chief judicial magistrate’s court in Nashik. The court remanded him in police custody till November 15 and allowed investigators to conduct narco-analysis tests on the officer to take the probe ahead.

Links have been found between Purohit and members of Abhinav Bharat, the Hindu outfit being investigated in the blast. Posted at the Army Education Corps at Panchmarhi in Madhya Pradesh, Purohit was sent to Mumbai on October 31 for questioning by the investigators after his name emerged in the blast case, army headquarters had earlier confirmed.

A liaisoning officer from the army headquarters in New Delhi told HT, “Based on the inputs gathered from other arrested accused, the ATS sought the officer’s custody for questioning under their detention.”

On what action Purohit faced following his arrest, the official said, “After considering all the legalities, we agreed to hand over the officer. Further action would be taken on the basis of inputs we receive from the probe ahead.”

Links have been found between Purohit and members of Abhinav Bharat, the Hindu outfit being investigated in the blast. Police sources said Purohit allegedly sent text messages on the mobile phone of Major (retd) Ramesh Upadhyay, a suspect in the blast, warning of the probe.

Sources said the four messages that Purohit sent to Upadhyay allegedly read: “Cat is out of the basket”, “Singh (Shivnarayan Singh Kalsangra, who was arrested earlier) has sung”, “We are on the radar of ATS” and “Change the SIM card”.

Purohit has been implicated on the basis of prosecution’s oral submission about the SMSes, said his lawyer Avinash Bhide. “No details about the SMSes was produced in the court.” Investigators also suspect Purohit supplied RDX for the blast.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/Print.aspx?Id=ab1a484b-c8e6-44dd-bc95-2807caf3baff

Our War on Terror and Aggression that President Obama will continue when he takes office on January 20th-

An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent the USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)

The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent Body Count

1) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto

2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops (3,388 combat 805 non-combat) and 88,851 – 96,976
Iraqi civilians killed, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

8) UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

The War on Terror and Aggression that President Obama will continue when he takes office on January 20th- An Update- continued:Other elements of our War on Terror:

1. Saddam, his sons and major henchmen have been deleted. Saddam's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes.

2. Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

3. Libya has become almost civil. Recently Libya agreed to pay $1.5 billion to the victims of their terrorist activities Apparently this new reality from an Islamic country has upset OBL and his “crazies” as they have threatened Libya. OBL sure is a disgrace to the world especially the Moslem world!!! Or is he???

4. North Korea is still uncivil but is contained. With the opening up of rail traffic between North and South Korea after 50 years and with the assistance of the US Navy in retrieving NK ships and personnel hopefully a fresh sense of civility is afoot.

5. North Korea was taken of the terrorist country recently.

6. Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

7. The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords and the Annapolis Peace Conference is at least somewhat successful.

8. Bin Laden has been cornered under a rock in Western Pakistan since 9/11.

9. Fanatical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghahistan and Pakistan.

10. Timothy McVeigh was executed. Terry Nichols will follow soon.

11. Eric Rudolph is spending three life terms in prison with no parole.

12. Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

13. Islamic Sudan, Darfur and Somalia are still terror hot spots.

14. The terror and torture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Radovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war -- charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

15. And of course the bloody terror brought about the Japanese, Nazis and Communists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

This man, who had won the election last night, not only looks like President Lincoln, but sounds very much like him. The fact that he is also from Illinois does not hurt. I, for one, feel very fortunate to have witnessed this phenomenon called Barak.

Crawl back into your hole, racist Astoria/Bigotoria.

Just remember the two Jews who gave up everything to make this happen, the Jews Obama: thanked David Axelrod, and David Pluffe.

JEWS--Get it. Later, for you Bigotoria, anti-Jewish reacist. The Vatican couldn't defeat him, your Muslim oil lobby couldn't do, your Born Agains, your NRA, etc., etc.

Catholic/Muslim Bigotoria, go back into your hole. Later for you.

You do realize, CCNL, that for one, Obama ain't actually in office, yet, and for another, it takes a lot longer to clean up after it than it does to step somewhere you should have looked first?

When he *does* take office, Obama will be inheriting an international *mess.*

But at least he's not a national *embarrassment.*

Our War on Terror and Aggression will continue under President Obama because the Worst Book Ever Written, aka koran, did not change yesterday as noted by the 15 Iraqi citizens killed in Baghdad over night.

It doesn't get much better than today is!

Off to the convenience store I went, to buy celebratory beer. The man who runs it I know reasonably well, a Muslim from India, and a fellow Obama supporter. I greeted him with a big grin and said, "It's a great day in America!". He returned the grin and agreed, and we talked about it.

My daughter called to talk about the election. I knew it was her courtesy of the cell phone. So I answered the call, "Yes we can!"

Life is good right now.

If no one minds me breaking my usually-strict policy of never cross-posting anything, ...well, something *has* changed. Gone from potential to actual.

I think of the place and time I was born into, with all the racial and ethnic tension and even violence, and all I can say is:

This. Was. Awesome.

I actually live in a neighborhood and area that is mostly African-American.

I just waved at a school bus full of cheering, *happy children.*

Gods, I haven't seen much in life to beat that. :)

And you too ZZim; you're so bitter.

Don't be bitter; be happy on this gread day. Is that too much to ask?

Is is written down in the Conservative Rule book, that you must always have a negative scowl and a bitter tone, and that a Conservative is never allowed to smile or be happy about anything, ever?

Eboo, the world hasn't changed at all. America has been this way for a very long time. It's just that now people like you will have to recognize that fact and we can all move along now, away from the familiar "America is the most racist place on Earth" lie.

I'm looking forward to it.

Globalone

You sound jealous of poor people. That's kind of weird.

Next, you'll be telling us you're jealous of retarded people, and of sick people.

Obama was right about people being bitter; there are an awful lot of bitter people, and as far as I can tell most of them do seem to be the very relgious type, for reasons that escape me.

Arminius,

Could you let me know what these "sacrifices" are that you are alluding to?

I'm not sure how "he tells us to sacrifice" fits with Obama's tax plan to eliminate federal incomes taxes for 44% of the population. In fact, Obama will actually pay people not to pay personal income tax. How exactly are the 44% "sacrificing" again?

Perhaps you meant that we will all sacrifice our pride and integrity by kowtowing to the whims and opinions of countries around the world?

Just sayin.

yyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!

CCNL, how about getting the death-to-infidels and anti-woman language out of the Bible first? Y'know, getting out of our glass house before we throw stones?

When I saw the white senior citizens looking with respect nd hope at Obama in his informercial- I cried. Because I have waited all of my life to see such a sight. And last night, when Obama thanked his white cmapaign manager, Plouffe- an african american man in the audience appeared startled when he heard his name and started applauding wildly- and crying- for a white man.
And the circle was complete.
So I cried again. One big joyful tearfest.

Eboo, Eboo, Eboo,

The world will change for the better only when the Worst Book Ever Written aka the koran is reissued without the death to infidels and oppression to women passages. While you are at it remove all the dictates made supposedly by one "pretty wingie thingie" aka Gabriel to one hallucinating, warmongering, womanizing, long-dead Arab named Mahound aka Mohammed!!!!!!

Yes We Can!

The shroud of pride and greed that has darkened the skies of our country for eight long years is lifting, and a new dawn comes. With tears of joy in my eyes, this old man humbly thanks God for this historical opportunity for ALL of us to set things right. It won't be easy - the shambles left after eight years of incompetence and ego-strutting will not go away overnight. It will take long, hard years. And our new president knows this, and said this. He asks us all to pitch in and help, he didn't tell us to go shopping, he tells us to sacrifice. Finally we have a real leader again.

God bless America!