The Faith Divide

New Interfaith Vision for Europe

President Obama has gone a long way towards showing a different face of America to the Muslim world , and now a Dutch Minister is following in the President's footsteps by showing a different face of Europe to Muslims in America.

Frans Timmermans, Minister for European Affairs in the Dutch Government, has a very different understanding of the role that Muslims can play on the Continent than the Europeans we hear a lot from, like Geert Wilders and Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Timmerman is not afraid of bringing up what he calls the "ghosts" of Europe's past - the hardening of cultural and national identities that led to so many ghastly deaths over the course of the 20th Century. He wants a globalized Europe to be a place where people from all backgrounds work together and thrive together, not where they fear one another and despair about their collective future. He is convinced that this has as much to do with culture as economics -- especially with how Europe views and integrates its new immigrant communities, especially Muslims. In a speech to the European Parliament in Brussels, Timmermans stated: "I believe that today the best contribution we can make to the future of European society is to develop the concept of the multicultural society into a concept of the intercultural society."

Timmermans has been touring the United States seeking to learn from the pluralism of American society, and carrying a very Obama-like message: hope has to defeat fear. In his visit to the large Muslim community of Dearborn, Michigan, Timmermans stressed the mutual responsibility that different communities have within a diverse society. He points out that it is not okay for Muslims to be discriminated against in the Netherlands, and nor is it okay for some Muslim young people to intimidate Jews or gays in that country.

When he visited the Interfaith Youth Core last week, he was most taken by two things: the commitment to public service by so many American young people, and the development of minority community identities equally committed to retaining particularity and contributing to the broader society. Timmermans commented that those qualities were perfectly embodied by America's new President.

I felt honored to meet a European Minister who not only recognizes that about our leader, but is attempting to carry that same vision on his own Continent.

By Eboo Patel  |  April 16, 2009; 12:35 PM ET  | Category:  Interfaith Issues , Personal Religion , Religion & Leadership , Religion & Politics , Religious Conflict , The Faith Divide Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati  
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halozcel1:

American Muslims admire and respect the constitution of the United States.

What really is questionable is your diatribe against Muslims whether it amounts to bigotry. I have read so many of your anti-Muslim posts that I am beginning to wonder if you are waiting for the Armageddon and the beliefs that go with it.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | April 17, 2009 12:51 PM
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EBOO & Co.; Imagine the "RELIGION" of everything, before the "SCiENCE" of Everything"! "IT" {G-D my 1000 Names & nomore by 99 names} is TiME! Imagine A

"SINGULARITY" of ALL of Space-Ship Earth's 3-Major religions via their {not OUR] Infixus Books [Chumash/Bibles, Quran/Koran & Geeta/Kangyurs..] is the [Prophectic]GOAL!

NEVER! NO! NOT in "PLURALiTYT" of Them Religions. Think about "IT". Aboloshing [Multi/Competing]Religions & Uniting Them, via "United Nations" as 'O,ne U.niversal R.eligion" {OUR] & thus Borneth the NEW-SONG coming from All Ye [not OUR] OLD Songs!

The International "O.U.R. ULTRA-PARA TESTAMENT", U.N. Made by Uniting ONE-G-D & not god(s) via ancient Bibles/Geeta/Qurans!

Yes WE [i] Can! "IT" is Real!

Yes [i] WE Can! "IT" is TRUE (opposite MYTH)!

Yes WE YE i can! "IT" is the Prophecy!

Posted by: INGOODFAITH | April 17, 2009 11:12 AM
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hsnkhwj,

You say *American Muslims are fiercely loyal to America*

Are you sure ? it is questionable.

According to islam/submission,true believer muslim should never be loyal to infidel.US is a *Land/House of War* and true believer muslims have to participate Holy War.
*Jihad* means Struggle,and struggle means Kampf in germen.Holy War is Meine Kampf.
What do Afghan demonstraters say to Afghan women who oppose *Rape Code/Law*
*Death to Children of Christians* and *death to infidels*

Posted by: halozcel1 | April 17, 2009 10:36 AM
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American political culture has always had a bipolar personality, at once tolerant and intolerant, inclusive and exclusionary. Anti-immigrant bigotry and religious intolerance have a long history in our country. Puritans hanged Quakers in Boston Common, signs proclaimed, "No Irish need apply," and laws prohibited Chinese immigrants from becoming citizens.
Benjamin Franklin expressed concern over foreign immigration in 1751. He feared the influx of German-speaking immigrants, who he said were not as white as the English. Franklin asked, "Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion."
The American Revolutionary leader Samuel Adams expressed the virulent anti-Catholic sentiment that was shared by many Americans at the time. In "The Rights of Colonists," a proclamation that was adopted by the town of Boston on Nov. 20, 1772, Adams wrote "that there shall be liberty of conscience allowed in the worship of God, to all Christians except Papists."
Catholics, or "Papists," could not be afforded religious tolerance, Adams said, because their allegiance to the pope meant that they "teach Doctrines subversive of the Civil Government under which they live." The fear and antipathy toward Catholicism among many Americans in the 18th and 19th centuries was as deeply felt as is the fear of Islam today.
The best antidote to religious intolerance, then or now, can be found in the words of Thomas Jefferson. In his "Notes on Virginia" in 1785, Jefferson said that alternative religious beliefs are not "injurious to others" and should not be restricted by government. "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
At Philadelphia in 1787, Jefferson's understanding of religious tolerance won out. Most important, according to Article VI, "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

American Muslims admire America for this reason and are fiercely loyal to America.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | April 16, 2009 10:59 PM
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MMM1118:

How many American Muslims do you know? Do you think those 7 million American Muslims (or world's 1.4 billion Muslims)are beheading their women or are on the rampage of killing on a daily basis? Do you follow the statistics of shootings that are taking place on a daily basis in America? How many of those are done by American Muslims? What is going on our Mexico border? It is of a different kind , i.e. not in the name of religion, nevertheless it is violence and people like you express no alarm. Only Muslims are your target. Your paranoia and your garbage is beyond belief.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | April 16, 2009 10:50 PM
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Patel,

What Ayaan Hirsi Ali says about Islam is the truth. You don't want to acknowledge. It would be uncomfortable to have to admit that Islam is barbaric, fit for nothing but savages.

Patel, you are a coward. You are too afraid to tell the truth. Are you afraid that an a Muslim may put a fatwa out on you as was done to Ali?

You can write your garbage, but some of us are too smart to be taken in by any of the "good" of Islam. What is done in the name of Islam speakes volumes about how eveil it it and how evil the people who follow it are.

Posted by: mmm1110 | April 16, 2009 10:40 PM
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The Amish and many Jewish sects many dress differently than the mainstream, but they do not set out to kill people. That is the difference between other groups that live onto themselves in the U.S. and Muslims.

Posted by: mmm1110 | April 16, 2009 10:33 PM
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WMAPKW: I saved a letter to the editor published in a newspaper sometime ago which appears, coincidentally, an appropriate response to your views. Here it is:

Anti-Muslim hysteria


I AM not a Muslim myself, though I am of Arab heritage, and was pleased to read Jonathan Freedland’s piece on anti-Muslim hysteria. He raised many of the points that I have been quietly making to friends over the last weeks as the furore over British attitudes toward the veil have surfaced.

Here in the US we have a number of religious communities, such as the Amish and several Jewish communities, who dress differently than those of the majority, they speak different languages, and could be said to set themselves apart from the mainstream. Far from being viewed as a threat, however, these sub-cultures are generally looked upon as contributing to the wonderful diversity of our nation’s culture.

Any suggestion that any of these groups be compelled to dress like the rest of us would be viewed as an example of the worst sort of bigotry. We Arab and Muslim-Americans do suffer from discrimination, bias and bigotry, but the very idea that the government would legislate or otherwise proscribe how we should dress and behave is ludicrous.

I hope that the British, who travelled around the world creating an empire and in doing so probably didn’t give a damn about whether or not they offended the natives of their colonies by dressing like English people, will grow up and leave law-abiding Muslim citizens alone.

DAVE HALL
New York, USA

Posted by: hsnkhwj | April 16, 2009 10:28 PM
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Interculturalism is great, and I hope you can encourage more of your fellow Muslims to practice it. Sitting not ten feet from my office cubicle is an educated woman from Pakistan, who moved to America with her husband and daughter in order not to live under backwardism. We should be encouraging as many of those Muslims to move here as possible.

What we don't need, is people who need to separate themselves from America's joint culture, like having separate swimming hours for Muslim women (but not men), separate food, and excuse from learning science like evolution.

The role of religion in American life is very different from the role in most Muslim lands; and the ones who move here should be ready to participate in our values.

Posted by: WmarkW | April 16, 2009 6:39 PM
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As long as violence is carried out in the name of Islam and as long as woman are treated as sub-human, Islam must be condemned. Muslim men must be condemned for how they subjugate women. To let the violence and the subjugation of women pass is the same thing as condoning and giving respect to these barbaric ways. It cannot be called anything but barbarism. The politically correct crowd cite multi-culturalism and diveristy as excuses for what is done in the name of Islam. Those of us who value freedom and equality are right and must maintain our resolve to keep these values from being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalism. We will be proven right. All cultural practices are not equal. Islamic law is not equal to Western law. Anyone, especially a women who thinks so, should try living under Sharia law for at least 5 years to get a good taste of it. I have no respect for Islam. I have no respect for Muslim men. Muslim men are despicable. Islam is one "religion" the world could have done without.

Obama took an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution. Islam is incompatible with it. It seems Obama needs to read our law of the land. Obama is showing himself to be weak. There can be no living with Islam and the U.S. Constitution. I hope the Democrats lose many seats in Congress in the 2010 elections. He needs more Republicans to help him to remember that our American laws are not to be watered down to suit Muslims, people who are still living inthe Middle Ages.

The West should not be making any concessions to Muslims. The values of freedom and equality are too precious to see destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Muslims who live in the West have an obligation to assimilate into the societies in which they live. If they don't like those societies, they should leave and go to a nation ruled by Islam. They are not forced to live in any Western society. Since Muslims have made it clear that they despise the West, why do they come? They want to destroy the West. They have said it over and over again. We are at war with Islamic fundamentalism, and no amount of political correctness is going to change that fact. To make any concessions to Muslims is suicide for the Western way of living.

Posted by: mmm1110 | April 14, 2009 2:23 AM
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