Jesus in Arizona

If the good Christians of Arizona don't want illegal immigrants, they should stop offering them jobs.
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Certainly the low-wage employers are not behind the new law.

Personally, I'd like to see more people join a boycott of businesses that employ illegals. Cutting out their profits would eliminate the jobs that motivates people to come here illegally.

If the good Christians of Arizona don't want illegal immigrants, they should stop offering them jobs.

When Joseph took Mary and the close to 2 years old toddler, Jesus, to Egypt, they were aliens in Egypt when they got there. But the time, Egypt was also a part of the Roman Empire just like Israel was.

They didn't break any Roman (or Egyptian) law by going to Egypt. Joseph and his family were NOT illegal aliens in Egypt.

During the period of time when the Roman Empire Existed and when Jesus, the apostles, and the Disciples (latter includes all who believed in Jesus) it was NOT an illegal act to go from one country in the Empire to another if one was not a slave.

joe_allen_doty

You wrote, "They let their religion get in the way of helping people. But, the Samaritan, in the PARABlE story which Jesus made up, believed in the same God the Levites did."

Yes, they did believe in the same God and you are right that they let their "religion" get in the way of their "relationship" with not only people but also with their God.

You then commented, "So, you are proof-texting there."

Am I "proof-texting" or am I pointing out what Jesus actually said which includes His comment about who did the "right" thing and who did the "legal" thing?

You made a comment about some of the people that you have come into contact with from other countries and that they had different reasons for doing what they are doing.

When we "group" together people from other places and say "these people" we not only deny them their "status" as fellow unique human beings but we are also denying that which you brought up, each one has their own story and their own reasons for doing what they are doing, is that not right?

As I have said before, just because something is legal does not mean that it is right and just because something is illegal does not mean that it is wrong.

No matter what the "law" is today or in the past, Jesus, Mary and Joseph going to Egypt were/are the "modern day equivalent" of illegal aliens.

Seems to me that Jesus pointed out numerous times the difference between the "letter of the law" and the "spirit of the law".

Actually, Jesus did not leave a whole bunch of do's and don't's but a simple statement, "Love one another as I have loved you".

Living or even attempting to live this, is to go beyond the "law of man" to the "Law of God" which happens to be God, which happens to be LOVE.

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

The Good Samaritan took care of a person whom 2 members of the Tribe of Levi, aka Levites, one a priest, would not touch because they thought the man was dead. If a Levite touched a dead body, he was require to go through a ritual cleansing.

They let their religion get in the way of helping people. But, the Samaritan, in the PARABlE story which Jesus made up, believed in the same God the Levites did.

Samaritans could to to Israel and Judea with no restrictions as to travel.

So, you are proof-texting there.

For 2 years, I worked with several Philippe nationals who were legally in the USA. And they had no desire to become US Citzens. They came to the USA to earn enough to get Social Security Pensions so they could retire in their home country. One of them even had to tell me how he was going to live almost like he was rich when he retired.

But, one of the Filipinos, Soloman, had become a US Citizen and had no desire to go back to his home country except to visit. He had been a dog handler for the US Air Force before he came to the States.

joe_allen_doty

You wrote, "Many of the undocumented aliens in the USA are here only to earn money to send back to folks in their native countries. They have no desire to become US Citizens."

Some may and just why do you think that this is?

Do you think that it is to make a fortune and stash it somewhere or could it be so that some can have the most basic of the necessities of life?

"Whatever you have done to the least of Mine, you have done to Me", sound familiar?

Didn't the "religious" of Jesus's day get hung up on the "legalities"?

There can be a "world of difference" between "legal and illegal" and "right and wrong".

You also wrote, "In one of Jesus' talks, he mentions that while a person might break the law (create an offense) on his own, woe to the one who caused another person to break the law."

Jesus was not speaking about any man-made law here, was He?

Remember the story of the "Good Samaritan"?

If you remember, it was the "good law-abiding persons" that came across rather unnicely and the hated, despised, looked-down upon Samaritan that came out in a nice way, was it not?

Something to think about, is it not?

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

"One day, America has forgotten itself."

How can a country "forget itself"?

"One day, it will remember."

Remember what?

"Let us hope that day comes sooner rather than later."

OK....

One day a friend came into a bar and asked for his Mexican friend, Jesús. A patron replied, "You won't find him in here"

Seems like he's hard to find in Arizona as well.

Tom,

One day, America has forgotten itself. One day, it will remember. Let us hope that day comes sooner rather than later.

Farnaz

PS: Great story.

PS: Great story.

Highly improbable - all the Huckabee and Catholic pictures of Jesus depict him with light skin, blond hair and blue eyes even though he was from the Middle East. No probable cause there, no sirrreeee.

I had a friend, Jesus, who was a native of Mexico and a naturalized US Citizen. It was interesting that even his Hispanic friends called him 'Jesse.' And that's because he suggested it.

It is stated in the New Testament that Believers in Jesus are supposed to obey the laws of the government where they live as long as those laws don't interfere with their relationship with Jesus the Christ.

During Bible times (especially during the Greek Empire days and later the Roman Empire days of the New Testament period), people didn't have to have papers with them when they traveled from one country to another.

The aliens in Israel at the time of Jesus were not illegally in the country.

But, the majority of aliens who are in the USA illegally now actually knew they would be breaking the law when they crossed the US Border into the USA.

In one of Jesus' talks, he mentions that while a person might break the law (create an offense) on his own, woe to the one who caused another person to break the law.

Many of the undocumented aliens in the USA are here only to earn money to send back to folks in their native countries. They have no desire to become US Citizens.

I think that it should be illegal for people to knowingly hire illegals to work for them.

About those in spiritual leadership positions, Jesus said, "Call no man 'father'." The RCC goes against what Jesus said.

Jesus' actual name was spelled in Hebrew just like the name "Joshua" was. "Jesus" is merely the English phonetic, sort of, who Joshua was written with Greek letters. In the Epistle to the Hebrews, the KJV translators mistakenly call Joshua by the name of "Jesus." But, it was Joshua who led the Children of Israel from the Wilderness into the Country of Canaan, aka the Promised Land.

Mr. Reese (the only person I call "father" divorced my mother some years ago), did you read the part that the requirements only kick in AFTER a law enforcement contact for reasonable suspicion of a criminal offense?

And being an illegal immigrant is not a criminal offense that INITIATES a contact.

How should readers respond to an absolutely ludicrous premise?