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Weekly Churchgoers Favor Gay Service Members

Here's a bit of a surprise. Support for allowing openly gay men and women to serve in the military has increased sharply among weekly churchgoers, according to a just-released Gallup survey.

While Americans overall are six percentage points more likely than they were four years ago to basically support the end of the Clinton-era "don't ask, don't tell" policy, the biggest increases in support were among conservatives and weekly churchgoers.

Support for allowing openly gay members of the military jumped 11 percentage points among weekly churchgoers, Gallup reports. That means that a majority of weekly churchgoers--60 percent--now favors permitting openly gay military members. Weekly churchgoers are generally considered the most politically and socially conservative members of religious communities.

Overall support in the U.S. for allowing openly gay men and women to serve in the military has climbed to 69 percent from 63 percent.

Gallup suggests that these numbers mean that President Barack Obama may be well-positioned to repeal the 1993 policy. It has been a major priority of gay rights groups since Obama came to office. Politico reported this week that these groups have grown increasingly frustrated with the Obama administration and its progress on gay rights issues. Obama promised during the campaign to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

The question, of course, is why the shift? Why are loyal churchgoers changing tack on this issue? What's interesting is their support for gay marriage is not increasing. So this isn't part of an overall pattern. What do you think?

By Jacqueline L. Salmon  |  June 5, 2009; 4:46 PM ET  | Category:  God in Government Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati  
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GAYS IN THE MILITARY:

Everyone, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept his sexual identity. Physical, moral, and spiritual difference and complementarity are oriented toward the goods of marriage and the flourishing of family life. The harmony of the couple and of society depends in part on the way in which the complementarity, needs, and mutual support between the sexes are lived out.

"In creating men 'male and female,' God gives man and woman an equal personal dignity."118 "Man is a person, man and woman equally so, since both were created in the image and likeness of the personal God."

Each of the two sexes is an image of the power and tenderness of God, with equal dignity though in a different way. The union of man and woman in marriage is a way of imitating in the flesh the Creator's generosity and fecundity: "Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh." All human generations proceed from this union.

Chastity means the successful integration of sexuality within the person and thus the inner unity of man in his bodily and spiritual being. Sexuality, in which man's belonging to the bodily and biological world is expressed, becomes personal and truly human when it is integrated into the relationship of one person to another, in the complete and lifelong mutual gift of a man and a woman.

The virtue of chastity therefore involves the integrity of the person and the integrality of the gi

The chaste person maintains the integrity of the powers of life and love placed in him. This integrity ensures the unity of the person; it is opposed to any behavior that would impair it. It tolerates neither a double life nor duplicity in speech.124

Chastity includes an apprenticeship in self-mastery which is a training in human freedom. The alternative is clear: either man governs his passions and finds peace, or he lets himself be dominated by them and becomes unhappy.125 "Man's dignity therefore requires him to act out of conscious and free choice, as moved and drawn in a personal way from within, and not by blind

Posted by: TTWSYFAMDGGAHJMJ2 | June 9, 2009 10:48 AM
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GAYS IN THE MILITARY:

Would those who approve of gays in the military also approve of women in the living quarters of men? It’s the same difference. Men are naturally attracted to women, gays are attracted to the same sex.

Homosexuality is an abomination when it leads to gay sex. So why set up these inevitable conflicts, notwithstanding the medical burdens that would be inevitably inherent in allowing gays in the military.

In their August 25th, 2000, editorial, "No tolerance for Boy Scouts," the Washington Times says, "Homosexual rights activists are willing to do all they can to ostracize or even destroy the Boy Scouts. Unless the almost century-old organization both nullifies its pledge to be 'morally straight' and abandons its central mission to teach young boys...'true manliness' -- a man's responsibility in marriage and fatherhood, gays want to ban the Scouts.

Such principles may sound uproariously quaint and beyond corny to society's morally destitute "moral relativists," but they remain even now an anchor against civilization's drift into unfettered decadence."

Nature has rejected Homosexuality -based on the abject unhealthiness (as of 1995) of those in bondage to this "unnatural" vice. For, according to the British Journal of Sexual Medicine and The HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: ‘Homosexuals carry one-half of the country's syphilis, although they are only 1- 1/2 to 2- 1/2% of the population, and are fourteen times more likely to have had the disease than heterosexuals.

Two-thirds of all the AIDS cases in the U.S. are the direct result of homosexual conduct. Homosexual young people are twenty-three times more likely to contract sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) than their heterosexual counterparts are. In San Francisco, the sexually transmitted disease rate is twenty -two times higher than the national average.”

Current Court records reveal that 1/3 of all child abusers are homosexuals. Since the total homosexual population is statistically, not more than 1- 1/2 to 2- 1/2 percent of the population, this means that homosexuals are sixteen (16) times more likely to abuse children than are heterosexuals.

Posted by: TTWSYFAMDGGAHJMJ2 | June 9, 2009 10:41 AM
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Seeing the new subtitle: "Churchgoers OK with Don't Ask Don't Tell" isn't *supportive of gays in the military,*

.....it's 'supportive of gays pretending to be straight and being generally-discharged and screwed for life at the end of their combat tour if they have the temerity to not hide enough for the nearest Christian.

Posted by: Paganplace | June 8, 2009 5:53 PM
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"The question, of course, is why the shift? Why are loyal churchgoers changing tack on this issue? What's interesting is their support for gay marriage is not increasing. So this isn't part of an overall pattern. What do you think? "

I could easily say I think it's part of an overall pattern of them wanting us to fight and die for rights only they enjoy.

Or that maybe some little part of them realizes that it's hard to be "strong on defense" while firing scarce Arabic translators for being gay, then lowering the standards for security clearance to get non-gays in the intelligence pipeline.

Or that maybe... Bush's wars have made enough *veterans* who know that all the talk about gay people hurting abstractions like 'unit cohesion' and all the other excuses ...was never true.

Maybe, enough people know veterans now to have seen Bush's policy of not-discharging gay combat troops for being gay until it was time for them to get their ticket home and benefits... And to resent the raw deal, cause lots of vets got a raw deal.

Maybe, they've just 'compassionately' decided, 'Better some queer get their arm blown off than my straight kid....'

Or, maybe, they were just held back a while on realizing the reality a bit longer than the population at large.

One thing about a war is, you find out pretty quick what works and what doesn't.

Posted by: Paganplace | June 8, 2009 2:32 PM
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