The crime of the EuroChristians against European Jews, Roma will last until the end of history.

There should be many more voices telling of it, but they belong to generations that will never be born.

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I am sick of the Holocaust being treated as an article of faith and any lack of proper reverence for it is considered a heresy. The Holocaust has been misused to smear politicians of the left and right and to permit abuse of Palestinians by Israel.
The Holocaust was sixty-years ago and the countless movies, docu-dramas, books, commemorations has not stopped genocide any where in the world. The Holocaust is no longer a tragic historical event but in the words of Norman Finklestein an “Industry.”

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Also, why is it the authors refer only to the estimated 6 millions Jews, not to murder of the additional 5 million to 11 miilion ethnic Poles, the Romani, Soviet civilians, Soviet prisoners of war, people with disabilities, gay men, Jehovah's Witnesses, and other political and religious opponents?
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Duh, because the bigot who made the remark was referring to a Jew?

Also, while it is true that many others were slaughtered and not only by the Christians (Shanghai, Philippines), it was the Christian Orthodox, the Catholics, and the Lutherans, who with two exceptions did the killing, torturing etc.

A few countries with church-going citizens and clergy that tortured and slaughtered Jews during WWII (not Germans, not nazis, but civilians): Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Croatia, Lithuania, Latvia, Hungary, Romania, France, etc., etc.

Who did the demonizing since the Middle Ages? Christians.

These people, Christians, committed a crime the result of which has meant the loss of generations upon generations upon generations. The blood on their hands will last until the end of history.

And, yes, they killed one another, too. They always have.

If Hitler were to re-appear and start dehumanizing groups in our society, would the authors object to calling him a Nazi?
Ordinary people, like those is Europe during WW2,only murder when the victims are dehumanized. Germans before WW2 considered themselves civilized and most never would have imagined that they could murder millions. When a demagogue attempts to dehumanize a group of people, he (or she) is opening the way to cruelty and eventually murder. It starts with one target group that many people dislike, and eventually expands to everyone that is not like the demagogue.
Also, why is it the authors refer only to the estimated 6 millions Jews, not to murder of the additional 5 million to 11 miilion ethnic Poles, the Romani, Soviet civilians, Soviet prisoners of war, people with disabilities, gay men, Jehovah's Witnesses, and other political and religious opponents?

It's interesting to watch the loonies of the right equate nazism, communism, and socialism together without having a clue as to what any of them are. If asked Glen Beck or Rush would have the same blank stare Sarah Palin had when asked about the Bush Doctrine. The funny thing is that Rush and Glen are right wing extremists. Hitler was a right wing extremist. The only thing different is that Hitler served his country in WWI and Rush was a draft dodger.

As for Land, he is a pig. What else is there to say. Except, perhaps, that Mengele was a Catholic. He killed 25,000 Roma in one night. He pushed a little Roma boy, in good health, into an oven. Land is a pig. Equaled perahps by Moller, whose wild "Tiller the Killer" rhetoric no doubt contributed to Tiller's murder.

I ask myself over and over again. What has hardened the hearts of the Christians, made them so mercenary as to have a "conciliatory" relationship with the genociding Sudanese, made them genociders themselves. The essentialist, fictional NT, what else could it be.

In fairness to Germans (LOL), the Holocaust was an all European affair. Poles, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians, Greeks, Yugoslavians, Croatians, etc., etc., ordinary church-going people, not nazis took part in the bloodbath, then stole whatever the Jews of their nations had.

Did he who made the lamb make the Christians?

Look at the American Indians. The Anglicans who cut off the thumbs and hands of Pakistanis and Hindus.

What are these people.

There are plenty of nazis all over Germany as has been in the news of late. Further, the Germans have behaved in a way to the Turks that has made them the embarrassment of Europe.
They discriminate against blacks, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans in a way that would make the hair of most Americans turn white in an instant.

As for the Holocaust, you do the crime, you do the crime. And in the case of the German Lutherans and Catholics, the time will end only when the world, itself, ceases to be. There aren't enough voices to talk about the Holocaust.

There should be more, many, many more.

As an immigrant German, now American, I am sick and tired of hearing about the Nazis and the Holocaust.

Why doesn't anyone ever talk about Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, the slaughter of the American Indians, Mao's China, the genocides in Africa, all the othe atrocities that happen daily even as I write on this blog.

The Nazis were an evil sort and the holocaust was one of the worst tragedies ever, but for crying out loud, it was over 60 years ago.

I am by no means condoning what went on in Germany at the time, but I think it's time that others are held accountable as well for their misdeeds.

That includes conservative Americans like Beck who find nothing wrong with their Administration invading other countries and wreak havoc on the populations for the simple desire for oil.

How pathetic!!!

well there are nazis and there are religious nazis.....

Posted by: coloradodog | October 22, 2009 4:29 PM
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Yup, and Dog would know.

Many words are misused:

Miracles - Things that are labeled “miracles” are simply people doing their jobs really well, or simple probability.

Hate - Things that are labeled “hate” are actually combinations of anger, ignorance, metal illness, and other human weaknesses.

Evil - See Hate, above.

Feel free to add your own.

well there are nazis and there are religious nazis.....

I wholeheartedly agree that tossing words like "Nazi" and "Holocaust" out in public debate not actually having to do with Nazis or the Holocaust trivializes the words and meaning. However, there is enough blame to go around conservative & liberal alike. It's not just Glenn Beck, Dr. Richard Land, and RNC making hyperbolic statements using outrageous metaphors. There have been plenty of accusations from opponents of the Bush administrations who crossed the civility line.

The irony is that when Beck plays the "Holocaust card" to try to defame an American citizen who has never acted like a Nazi, he used the rhetorical modus operandi established by Josef Goebbels.

That association might embarrass some people, but it obviously doesn't bother him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

Good luck with that.

And I really like how the previous poster used a "quick google search", an example of vast research of course, to prove a negative.

Of what use is such incompetent research? It somehow proves to this person that his outrage has a valid source ... it does not address the point being raised by the authors of this opinion, and in the worst case allows him to feel he has permission to go on using this logical fallacy because the other side isn't sufficiently chastised for having used it.

Today the conservatives are out of power, it is typical of an out of power political party in our country to use reductio ad hitlerum to throw bombs at the party in power.

It seems to be more effective for the conservative's efforts at rallying the troops than it was for the liberals however.

I find it telling that this group of religious leaders passed over scolding those who have consistently referred to Pope Benedict as a Nazi over the last several years. It seems like their ire is a bit feigned and hypocritical--they condemn mostly those from a conservative background and throw one Democrat in as a red herring to make us believe that they are not ideologically driven or partisan. I did a quick Google search to see if they had condemned similar remarks during the Bush administration. Remember "What kind of skeeza is Condoleeza, and what kind of doo doo come out of Colin's mouth" ad infinitum? Guess what I found? Nada.