Note for Daniel ILD: As you probably have noticed, I have been banned from commenting on the Susan Jacoby's column (and the other specific panelists' columns) because Farnaz cannot seem to come to grips with the Torah's ninth commandment. The moderators need specific proof of the problem and got frustrated with my constant reminders and challenges to her. Watching her activities over the past few years, many have recognized the situation but again are powerless to stop her. Her many "friends" (e.g. Schaum, Zebra4 and Carstonio) also appear to be helpless. Farnaz by the way is banned from commenting on the general commentary page but her "friends" are not. )

And yes the media should note on a 24/7 basis, that mutual masturbation aka gay sex is still yucky!!!

Some thoughts and suggestions: (once again)

(Note for Daniel ILD: As you probably have noticed, I have been banned from commenting on the Susan Jacoby's column (and the other specific panelists' columns) because Farnaz cannot seem to come to grips with the Torah's ninth commandment. The moderators need specific proof of the problem and got frustrated with my constant reminders and challenges to her. Watching her activities over the past few years, many have recognized the situation but again are powerless to stop her. Her many "friends" (e.g. Schaum, Zebra4 and Carstonio) also appear to be helpless. Farnaz by the way is banned from commenting on the general commentary page but her "friends" are not. )

It is obvious that intercourse and other sexual activities are out of control with over one million abortions and 19 million cases of STDs per year in the USA alone.
from the CDC-2006.

"Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain STDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psychological consequences of STDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs associated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

How in the world do we get this situation under control? A pill to temporarily eliminate the sex drive would be a good start. And teenagers and young adults must be constantly reminded of the dangers of sexual activity and that oral sex, birth control pills, condoms and chastity belts are no protection against STDs. Might a list of those having an STD posted on the Internet help? Sounds good to me!!!! Said names would remain until the STD has been eliminated with verification by a doctor. Lists of sexual predators are on-line.
Is there a difference between these individuals and those having a STD having sexual relations while infected???

JON O'BRIEN:

Thank you very, very much for your essay. Mary Ann Walsh's essay left me incredulous, surely the prize winner in that week's contest for Catholic clerical arrogance.

So astonished was I that I sent it around to friends here and abroad, the tenor of whose replies can be gleaned from this sampling:

From India: In the US? Kick them out!

From Pakistan: Catholic Taliban?

From Israel: Has the Vatican staged a coup?

From Uruguay: Thugs.

From England: Get rid of them. They've always been a power hungry lot.

From New York City: They've got to go. End their non-profit status, theirs, in particular.

From New York City: Ask me why I'm no longer a Catholic. This isn't arrogance. We're under siege.
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If Walsh were merely posturing, she would have been guilty of bad taste, at worst. Alas, she was not. The facts are as you put them. Thanks to Sen. Ben Nelson and his gang of religionists, financially strapped American women will be denied their right to choose when the health care bill passes.

Added to this horrific insult we have Catholic media religionists, most surprisingly, E.J. Dionne, defending Sen. Nelson, even going so far as to write that the bribe paid Nelson for his non-cooperation amounts to a Congressional reform (I'm not kidding.)

Further, conscious clauses are absolutely unacceptable in the United States. Anyone who believes he cannot perform certain legal procedures, sell certain legally prescribe drugs or products due to matters of conscience should be referred to
self-proclaimed religious or theocratic states that share the views of the Conscience plagued. We are not a theocracy.

Added to the disgraceful meddling of "the bishops" in American health care reform, we have their joining with right-wing Christianists seeking to deprive gay Americans their Constitutional rights.

And then their is their protection of pedophile priests, whom they have hidden, and for whom they have lied to the police, lied under oath, and obstructed justice. A horrible case in point is William CArdinal Lavada, who first bankrupted the Portland Archdiocese and then went on to do the same in San Francisco, where he shielded the Salesians (aka Lavada's boys), at the time the largest pedophile priest ring in America. And for his service to the RCC, he is now No. 2 Man in the VAtican, overseeing priest abuse charges worldwide, among other things. Why isn't he in jail?

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The two articles posted below concern the attempt by Jews, Serbian Orthodox, and Roma to sue Vatican Bank, which for nearly seventy years has held onto money stolen by Nazi priests, refusing to settle with the victims and heirs. Less than two weeks ago, an Appellate Court upheld the lower court ruling that Vatican Bank could not be sued by American citizens because the VATICAN is a FOREIGN NATION. (That is the case, of course; it has representation at the United Nations.)

Those two hundred (200) Utase Nazi Priests owned, btw., managed, and "worked in" Concentration camps. They tortured to death Jews, Serbian Orthodox, and Roma, cutting living people to pieces with scissors, ripping the babies out of the bellies of pregnant women, impaling people in the water and watching them drown.

Now, aside from what more all this tells us about the morality of the Vatican, I wonder how if the VATICAN is a FOREIGN NATION, the RCC can benefit from NONPROFIT status in this country.

And do we want such an entity, that stood by and watched its Nazi priests torture and murder, that stole the money of the victims, that continues to have Nazis in its employ, that refuses to release its WWII archives, do we want such an entity in the United States?
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Clearly, the RCC must be prevented from lobbying the Congress, and the same obtains for all religious institutions. Time, I think, for the US to separate Church and State.

Further, since the Vatican is a FOREIGN NATION, it is high time that the Community of Nations demanded that Vatican Bank settle with the victims of Nazi priests. And, finally, the United Nations should demand that the Vatican release all records pertaining to its activities from 1933 to 1945, for its crimes against humanity.

Tied up in the Rat Lines
By Yossi Melman

It is possible that within a short time a court in the United States will prohibit the publication of the account before us. In the meantime, Haaretz has obtained the testimony given last month by William Gowen, a former intelligence officer in the United States Army, at a federal court in San Francisco. The testimony contains historical and political explosives. It links Giovanni Battista Montini, who later became Pope Paul VI, to the theft of property of Jewish, Serb, Russian, Ukrainian and Roma victims during World War II in Yugoslavia. Many studies and stories have already been written about the thundering silence of Pope Pius XII, who reigned in the Vatican during World War II. Now the former intelligence officer's testimony has revealed that after the war, Montini, who during the war served as the Vatican's deputy secretary of state under the pope, helped hide and launder property that had been stolen from, among others, Jews and was involved in the sheltering and smuggling of Croatian war criminals, such as the leader of the Ustashe movement, Ante Pavelic.

The smuggling and hiding of Croatian war criminals was part of the extensive network known as the Rat Lines. Senior officials at the Vatican were involved in hiding and smuggling Nazi war criminals and their collaborators so they would not be arrested and tried. Hundreds of war criminals were provided with church and Red Cross papers that enabled them to hide in safe houses and then flee from Europe, mainly to the Middle East and South America. Among them were Klaus Barbie ("the butcher of Lyon"), Adolf Eichmann, Dr. Josef Mengele and Franz Stengel, the commander of the Treblinka death camp.

The Vatican network was also used by leaders of the Ustashe - the nationalist Croatian Catholic movement that was active in Croatia and collaborated with the Nazi occupation. "The Reverend Dr. Prof. Krunoslav Draganovic seemed to be in cooperation with the Ustasha network. And he was given a Vatican assignment as the apostolic visitator for Croatians, which meant he reported directly to Monsignor Giovanni Battista Montini," states an American document based on a report from the Italian police; the document was recently placed in evidence at the court in San Francisco where Gowen testified.

The leaders of the Ustashe headed by Pavelic are the ones who stole the victims' property: art and jewelry - silver and mostly gold. After the war they fled with the treasure and laundered it with the help of Vatican institutions. According to Gowen's testimony, Montini, who in 1964 became the first pope to visit the State of Israel, was also involved in the Vatican's help in laundering the wealth.

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Himmler of the Balkans

Under the leadership of Pavelic's right-hand man Andrija Artukovic, who earned the nickname "the Himmler of the Balkans," the Ustashe set up concentration camps, most notably at Jasenovac. According to various estimates, about 100,000 people were murdered at the camp, among them tens of thousands of Jews (it is interesting to note that some of the heads of the Ustashe were married to Jewish women). Throughout Croatia about 700,000 people were murdered. The partisans, led by the Croat Communist Josip Broz Tito, and the Chetniks - Nationalist Serb royalists - fought the Ustashe.

After the war, Pavelic and other Ustashe heads fled to Austria and, with the help of the British intelligence and their friends in the Vatican, found refuge in Italy. They hid in Vatican monasteries and were provided with false documents that gave them a new identity. Secret documents that were disclosed at the court in San Francisco show that at the end of the war, British intelligence took Pavelic under its wing and allowed him and a convoy of 10 trucks that carried the stolen treasure to travel to the British occupation zone in Austria. The British did this with the intention of using him as a counterweight to the Communist takeover in Yugoslavia.

The Ustashe brought the treasure convoy to Rome, where they put it into the hands of the Croatian ambassador to the Vatican, Rev. Krunoslav Draganovic. Draganovic also saw to hiding Pavelic and his aides in Vatican institutions and safe houses in Rome. American military intelligence located Pavelic's hiding place. But according to a secret document Gowen wrote in July 1947, that was submitted to the court, Gowen's unit received the instruction: "Hands off" Pavelic.

This was an order from the American Embassy, stressed Gowen in his testimony. It is also stated in the document, which is classified as top secret, that Pavelic, via his contacts with Draganovic, was receiving Vatican protection. From Italy, Pavelic was smuggled on the Rat Lines to Argentina, where he served as a security adviser to president Juan Peron (Peron granted entry visas to 34,000 Croats, many of them associated with the Ustashe and Nazi supporters).

In 1957 there was an attempt to assassinate him, in which he was wounded. The operation was attributed to Tito's Yugoslav intelligence, although the possibility that this was an attempt at revenge by a Chetnik activist was not dismissed. Pavelic had to leave Argentina and found refuge with the Spanish dictator Franco. Two years later, in 1959, he died as a result of complications caused by the wound. The Ustashe has continued to exist over the years and until the 1980s its operatives were involved in acts of terror against diplomats and other Yugoslav targets abroad.

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Montini complains

The suit filed at the court in San Francisco is based on earlier investigations and reports from American government agencies, the Simon Wiesenthal Center and committees of historians who researched the matter of the Jewish property in Swiss banks. The case was preceded by successful legal battles by attorney Levy and his colleagues against the CIA and the American Army to obtain secret documents. The defendants, on their part, led by the Vatican Bank and the Franciscan order and others, deny the charges against them and made every effort to have the charges dismissed. So far, the court has rejected these efforts outright and determined that the deliberations would continue. But the defendants are tenacious and now they are demanding that publication of Gowen's testimony be prohibited.

After the end of the war Gowen served as a special agent, meaning an investigations officer in the Rome detachment of American counter-intelligence. This unit's role was to track down, among others, Italian Fascists, Nazi war criminals and their collaborators, including the Ustashe leaders (Gowen said another mission included, at the request of British intelligence, surveillance of Irgun and Lehi activists). The code name for the unit's actions was "Operation Circle."

Parallel to the counterintelligence unit, other American army intelligence units, and mainly the Office of Strategic Services (OSS, from which the CIA developed) and British intelligence were engaged in contradictory actions. They made contact with Nazis and with the Ustashe people and enlisted them in their service as agents, collaborators and informers, with the intention of forming a front against the Soviet spread into Eastern Europe and the Balkans. "To try and find Pavelic you had to discover how the Ustashe network in Italy was constituted, how it operated, what were its bases," testified Gowen.

A key person in the Pontifical Croatian college was Rev. Draganovic, the Croatian ambassador to the Vatican. Draganovic and the college issued false papers to Croatian war criminals, among them Pavelic and Artukovic. "I personally investigated Draganovic - who told me he was reporting to Montini," emphasized Gowen.

Gowen related that at a certain stage Montini learned, apparently from the head of the OSS unit in Rome, James Angleton, who nurtured relations with Montini and the Vatican, of the investigation Gowen's unit was conducting. Montini complained about Gowen to his superiors and accused him of having violated the Vatican's immunity by having entered church buildings, such as the Croatian college, and conducting searches there. The aim of the complaint was to interfere with the investigation.

In his testimony, Gowen also stated that Draganovic helped the Ustashe launder the stolen treasure with the help of the Vatican Bank: This money was used to fund its religious activities, but also to fund the escape of Ustashe leaders on the Rat Line.

U.S. Court Rejects Vatican Bank Lawsuit
Holocaust Survivors from Several Countries Sued Bank for Taking Property Stolen by Nazis

(AP) An American appeals court on Tuesday dismissed a lawsuit by Holocaust survivors who alleged the Vatican bank accepted millions of dollars of their valuables stolen by Nazi sympathizers.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco upheld a lower court ruling that said the Vatican bank was immune from such a lawsuit under the 1976 Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, which generally protects foreign countries from being sued in U.S. courts.

Holocaust survivors from Croatia, Ukraine and Yugoslavia had filed suit against the Vatican bank in 1999, alleging that it stored and laundered the looted assets of thousands of Jews, Serbs and Gypsies who were killed or captured by the Nazi-backed Ustasha regime that controlled Croatia.

They sought an accounting from the Vatican, as well as restitution and damages.

The court didn't rule on the allegations. In its decision, the court said the Vatican bank, formally known as the Institute for the Works of Religion, or IOR, was a sovereign entity entitled to the protections of the foreign sovereign immunities act, and that therefore U.S. courts had no jurisdiction.

The pope himself has been granted such protections in U.S. courts hearing clerical sex abuse cases.

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Jeffrey Lena, who represented the Vatican Bank in the case, said he was gratified with the ruling since the court decided not only that the IOR was a sovereign entity but that as such it was immune from U.S. jurisdiction.

"In defending the lawsuit, the IOR did not challenge the allegations of the plaintiffs that they had suffered terrible losses at the hands of the Ustasha," he told The Associated Press. "Rather the challenge was simply to the jurisdiction of U.S. courts over the IOR."

Jonathan Levy, who represents the survivors, said he thought he had sufficiently shown that the Vatican bank engaged in commercial activities in the United States, which can serve as an exemption to the protections granted by the immunities act.

"The reason we're disappointed is the court found that dealing in gold teeth from concentration camps was not a commercial act," he said.

In its ruling, the court said that the Vatican banks' U.S. commercial activities were "too tangentially related to their legal claims to be considered the basis for the suit."

Levy said he didn't plan to appeal the judgment. The victims are also suing the Franciscans, the Roman Catholic order, on identical charges, and that portion of the lawsuit is going ahead, he said.

The survivors filed suit against the Vatican Bank a year after Swiss Banks agreed to pay some $1.25 billion to Nazi victims and their families who accused the banks of stealing, concealing or sending to the Nazis hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Jewish holdings.

Many of the survivors named as plaintiffs in the suit live in the United States.

Notre Dame apologized for its student newspaper that ran a cartoon depicting a conversation that says the "easiest way to turn a fruit into a vegetable" is with "a baseball bat."

So you simply apologize and it’s all good?

How would you like this:

Q: What’s the best way to make a nun pregnant?

A: Dress her like an alter boy.

Oh, you find that offensive?

Oh, please simply allow me to offer my “tearful” apology and it’s all good, too, right?

Like the majority of Muslims who do not denounce their murderous terrorists, you “Christians” also fail to denounce this vile hatred.

As one who, as a young boy, was raped by one of your priests, I find it even more egregious that your right wing Bishops, who set up Obama by inviting him there to speak, continue to hide your pedophile priests from US Justice.

What a pitiful and repulsive collection of bigots Notre Dame has become.

I would consider the bishops remiss if they didn't advocate the legal prosecution of their pedophiles.

"Catholic bishops too powerful?"

If catholic bishops are powerful, it is only because too many people believe in their silly superstitions.

If people would only stop believing, their power would die, just as Tinkerbell would die if the audience stopped clapping.

I would consider the bishops remiss if they didn't advocate for life. This is the Catholic Church's position. It is entitled to it, and bishops are free to advocate for it.

One doesn't have to agree with it.

I really don't understand how people arrive at the conclusion that religious beliefs should be completely removed from public discourse. They may not want to hear of, or be influenced by, these beliefs, but they are not entitled to silence them.

Arguing that the bishops "should" advocate for acceptable positions (ex., helping the poor) while they "should not" advocate for an unacceptable position on life is simply deciding what they are permitted to do and say.

from religioustolerance.org

"A brief history:

Many religions, including many denominations within Christianity, have adopted the general principle that abortion is a form of murder if it is performed at or after the time that a soul enters the body of an embryo or fetus. Down through the ages, beliefs varied about when this "animation" happened.

Various church authorities and popes placed the time at:

At a specific time into pregnancy (40 days, 80 days, 116 days), or
Quickening (when the woman first feels the fetus move), or at conception.

The latter is the current church teaching.

The Catholic Church has consistently taught that abortion -- at any stage of development -- is evil. However, its stance has changed down through the years on whether a given abortion is murder. John Cardinal O'Connor, Archbishop of New York, wrote:

"Pope Paul Vl declared that the teaching of the Church about the morality of abortion 'has not changed and is unchangeable.' Although some people point out that Saint Thomas Aquinas thought the soul did not come to the fetus ('ensoulment') until sometime after conception, the fact is that he considered abortion gravely sinful even before this time. He taught that it was a 'grave sin against the natural law' to kill the fetus at any stage, and a graver sin of homicide to do so after ensoulment." 2

A brief timeline:

Circa 100 to 150 CE: The Didache (also known as "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles"), was a document written for the guidance of Christians. It forbade all abortions.

Prior to 380 CE: Many Christian leaders issued unqualified condemnations of abortion. So did two church synods in the early 4th century:

Circa 380 CE: The Apostolic Constitutions allowed abortion if it was done early enough in pregnancy. But it condemned abortion if the fetus was of human shape and contained a soul.

St. Augustine (354-430 CE) accepted the Aristotelian Greek Pagan concept of "delayed ensoulment". He wrote that a human soul cannot live in an unformed body. 3 Thus, early in pregnancy, an abortion is not murder because no soul is destroyed (or, more accurately, only a vegetable or animal soul is terminated).

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Pope Innocent III (1161-1216): He determined that a monk who had arranged for his lover to have an abortion was not guilty of murder if the fetus was not "animated" at the time.

Early in the 13th century, he stated that the soul enters the body of the fetus at the time of "quickening" - when the woman first feels movement of the fetus. Before that time, abortion was a less serious sin, because it terminated only potential human person, not an actual human person.

Pope Sixtus V (1588) issued a Papal bull "Effraenatam" which threatened those who carried out abortions at any stage of gestation with excommunication and the death penalty.

Pope Gregory XIV (1591) revoked the previous Papal bull and reinstated the "quickening" test, which he determined happened 116 days into pregnancy (16½ weeks).

Pope Pius IX (1869) dropped the distinction between the "fetus animatus" and "fetus inanimatus." The soul was believed to have entered the pre-embryo at conception.

Leo XIII (1878-1903): He Issued a decree in 1884 that prohibited craniotomies. This is an unusual form of abortion used under crisis situations late in pregnancy. It is occasionally needed to save the life of the pregnant woman.

He issued a second degree in 1886 that prohibited all procedures that directly killed the fetus, even if done to save the woman's life.

Canon law was revised in 1917 and 1983 to refer simply to "the fetus." The church penalty for abortions at any stage of pregnancy was, and remains, excommunication."

As we have evolved in knowledge through the use of modern diagnostic tools, it is obvious that there is life within the womb at the moment of conception.

Katheen777, you do know that, until about a hundred and fifty years ago, the Catholic Church allowed abortion until quickening, don't you?

As Bishops rant about homosexuality and gay marriages, they hide pedophile priests from justice and Notre Dame's student newspaper runs a cartoon depicting a conversation that says the "easiest way to turn a fruit into a vegetable" is with "a baseball bat."

"Christ's Church" indeed.

If I were poor old Jesus, I would change my last name.

Question: Would you rather the organization that provides more than 50% of US health care speak during the legislative process about what systemic features they can or cannot operate with, or wait and discover that after Obama signs the legislation?

If you have to ask: "Are Catholic Bishops Too Powerful?"

...Yes.

It appears some of you forget the meaning of lobbying!!!!

Once again:

Other large, non-profit, non-taxable organizations who lobby the US Congress in the hope of influencing legislation:

1. Democratic and Republican Parties
2. ACLU
3. Greenpeace
4. Socialist Party
5. AICE
6. PETA
7. NRA
8. National Right to Life Committee
9. Teamsters Union
10. AFL-CIO
11. AARP
12. National Education Association (NEA)
13. AFT - American Federation of Teachers -
14. Planned Parenthood
15. Catholics for Choice

And please add Jon O'Brien to the list of the Immoral Majority i.e. The fastest growing USA voting bloc: The 70+ million "Roe vs. Wade mothers and fathers" of aborted womb-babies" whose ranks grow by two million per year.

Said Immoral Majority now rules the land and will do so in the foreseeable future. How very sad and disturbing!!!

2008 Presidential Election- Popular vote 69,456,897 for BO
59,934,814 for JM

WE as a nation, are on a slippery slope where a theocracy is concerned. Each year, we get more religiously inclined and have now begun to include the tenets of one or another religious bodies - usually christianity into our policies. Abortion is but one area. Our laws allow choice, a right which should not be abated because of the influence of any religious body. Isn't it sufficient to deny the use of federal funds?

Until Catholic bishops stop wagging their middle-fingers at US Justice and bring forth their pedophile priests for trial, they have no say in anything the government does.

IT IS TIME TO REPEAL 501 (C) (3) OF 1913, THE TAX EXAMT LAW ACCOUNT SO MANY VIOLATE THE GIVEN LAW'S RULES AND CLAIM TAX EXAMPT RESULTING IN PAYING ZERO IN TAXES. FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THE U.S.A. COMES WITH A PRICE WHICH IS TO FILE YOUR TAX FORMS OF THE GIVEN YEAR AND PAY THEM TO THE I.R.S., OTHER WISE THE U.S.A. IS BEING RIPPED OFF. CALL YOUR CONGRESS MEMBERS ON 501 (C) (3) FOR MODERN CHANGE.

Is TAKING ONE CELL FROM AN EMBRYO as Advanced Cell Technology does harmful to human life? IVF's clinics did this EXACT same procedure as ACT does with MY HEALTHY Daughter.

I donated ALL of my un-used embryo's from our IVF treatment to StemCell research. What should I have done with them? Thrown them into a medical Waste trashcan?

For the Catholic Church to IGNORE Advanced Cell Technology's IVF procedure of NO HARM to Embryo of TAKING JUST ONE cell from an Embryo to Create life Saving Treatments leaves me baffled. Why does the Catholic Church not Get Behind Advanced Cell Technology's Blastomere program of NOT harming the Embryo and Shout it to the WORLD that YES WE/Catholic Church Support this KIND of StemCell Research and this Is how it should be conducted. GET Your HEAD's out of the Sand fellow Catholics and Tell the Church to Get with it.

feeed

Is TAKING ONE CELL FROM AN EMBRYO as Advanced Cell Technology does harmful to human life? IVF's clinics did this EXACT same procedure as ACT does with MY HEALTHY Daughter.

I donated ALL of my un-used embryo's from our IVF treatment to StemCell research. What should I have done with them? Thrown them into a medical Waste trashcan?

For the Catholic Church to IGNORE Advanced Cell Technology's IVF procedure of NO HARM to Embryo of TAKING JUST ONE cell from an Embryo to Create life Saving Treatments leaves me baffled. Why does the Catholic Church not Get Behind Advanced Cell Technology's Blastomere program of NOT harming the Embryo and Shout it to the WORLD that YES WE/Catholic Church Support this KIND of StemCell Research and this Is how it should be conducted. GET Your HEAD's out of the Sand fellow Catholics and Tell the Church to Get with it.

feeed

Stem Cells harbor the key to NOT only Heal the World from Death and suffering. But also hold the "domino" effect of being able to solve and or influence a solving of economic issues associated with Healthcare and increase the standard of living for Billions of People. Investing in StemCEll research in a Federal Manhattan Style project would literally Solve the Health Care debate it would provide a Scientific Windfall of Revenue for the United States that would reduce Taxes on the average American and at the same time add to so many Human services for Americans to enjoy.

Unfortunatly When the subject of Stem Cell research Comes up, The Catholic Hire Up's ONLY think of Embryo Destruction. I have spent the better part of the past two years writing to the Vatican and various Catholic leaders, conservatives organizations etc etc Telling them About a Company Called Advanced Cell Technology process of NOT harming the Embryo. ACT uses the EXACT same protocol that IVS clinics Use in that It Takes JUST ONE CELL from the Embryo and takes that ONE Cell and makes StemCell lines with it. In my opinion since Noone is listening/caring about the gigantic breakthru in StemCEll research is it something Else? Are the Catholic Hire-Ups ignoring this science at Advanced Cell Technology because they are Frightened by the "God" like implications of Science? The Science of StemCells is moving forward and will continue to move forward in progression. ACT's science will be commercialized. The Company is expected to Start the FIRST FDA approved HUMAN Stem Cell Clinicals for Stargardts using its RPE program. These Stem Cells lines were derived with OUT killing/harming the Embryo. Once the FDA ok's this IND the WORLD will KNOW the Truth and ACT's novel way of NOT harming the Embryo will become the Federal Benchmark standard.

feeed loves lanza

As a person of goodwill, one must remember that all Catholics freely choose to be obedient to the Catholic Church and its teaching. This obedience is not forced on anyone. The choice carries with it the duty to respect all human life from conception to natural death. Public officials have been blessed with a higher level of service to their fellow man. Part of this service includes not being a source of scandal which confuses or misleads people of all faiths and those with no faith. Public officials supporting abortion is scandalous because their actions cooperate with evil and lead to the deaths of millions of innocent human beings each year. Such actions, if one purports to be a person of goodwill, can not be justified.