Posted by: prossers7: I personally know Pat Robertson and the rash of hatred spewed on him by the ignorant and Liberals has no merit.

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So then you know Jesus is mean enough to punish contemporary Haitians for the acts people who once lived in Haiti and are now dead?

Get a clue. A God or gods don't go around creating natural disasters to punish people.

I personally know Pat Robertson and the rash of hatred spewed on him by the ignorant and Liberals has no merit. Pat Robertson has his own television program, his followers watch his programming; hence, the comments he made about Haiti. He has every right to speak to his audience, who understood completely what he was referring to. If you don't understand a matter it is best to keep your thoughts to yourself if they are negative. God bless Pat Robertson and all the good he and his organization has done for this country. Why don't you investigate what Pat has done for the poor and society's outcasts, that might damper your vile for awhile.

Why does everyone pick on Pat Robertson? Like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, Robertson speaks to his audience. Their audiences consists of mainly poor ignorant white Southern Evangelical Christians. And like the audiences of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, Robertson's audience does NOT follow political correctness when the stories involve people unlike themselves. Everyone else is fair game. Only when the story involves one of their own -- John Ensign, Mark Sanford, David Vitter -- do their audiences cry out for political correctness. It is the audiences of Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News that should worry the rest of America because their audiences have accepted as truth and fact the antiquated stereotypes, cultural misconceptions, and other prejudicial fallacies that they have assimilated from their corrosive and toxic upbringing, education, and environment. Because of their size and their political impact on issues, Robertson's audience makes Robertson a voice that cannot be so easily pushed aside and ignored. What Robertson saids on the 700 Club has consequences for good and evil. Robertson gives voice to his audience whether we believe Robertson's utterances or not. We ignore Robertson at our own peril.

As a Christian, I find that we are required to help the poor and marginalized, period. Nothing was ever said by Jesus about helping only the "deserving" poor. There is no point debating the causes of the poverty and disaster in Haiti and somehow letting ourselves off the hook. Every human being is a "deserving" child of the Creator.

I hope the WAPO is planning to cover a few of the many, many responses that local churches and other congregations are doing this weekend and over the next months and years. In my small city, every friend I have talked to is giving through their faith congregation, or through non-government organizations. Nobody has time to worry about the bile vomited up by Robertson and Limbaugh.

I doubt even the Washington Times would stoop so low as to publish an defense of such a despicable and rotten human being as Robertson.

""I spent hours interviewing Pat Robertson and have dedicated years to studying his work and the wider evangelical world of which he is a part. Only he knows the extent to which he really believes some of his more dramatic pronouncements.""

So, speaking virulent hatred for decades is OK... If he might not have been sincere?

I hope Pat Robertson dies soon. He is scum and a disgrace to humanity.

Pat:
You know what Jesus said about the poor and the needy.
If you are any kind of a Christian whatsoever, you will apologize and get on board with the relief effort.

Rush:
That one is going to cost you buddy.
My liberal friends say that you are just in it for the money and the Ego trip.
If anything could possibly come out of your mouth to confirm this view it would be something stupid like what you just said. Just unreal!
You need to apologize and give a big fat check to the American Red Cross.

Your show is on right now and I am not listening!
Maybe never again.

Robertson's claim about the earthquake is also objectionable in terms of causation. He asserts that his god caused the earthquake. No assertion like that should be made without testable evidence.

If thy mouth offend thee;
Wash-ith it out with soap.

Come here Pat!
I got 20 Mule team power with Borax!
Hey buddy it's for your own good!
You will understand this when you grow up!

D. Michael Lindsay wrote: When tragedies strike, people naturally ask questions about why bad things happen to the innocent. (...) all believers (grapple) with the big question of why evil exists in a world made by a loving, powerful God.___________________________________________
Atheists are not afflicted with this self-imposed nonsensical conundrum. Witchdoctor Robertson appears to have cast a tiny spell on you, Prof. Lindsay.

Mr. Lindsay- trying to make excuses for Pat Robertson by opining he is a savvy businessman seeking to increase his following simply tells me your moral compass is as misdirected as his. Someone wrote today that G-d does not cause evil. Pat Robertson says He does. I know who I would rather believe- and it ain't Pat.

Robertson is another dirt-bag fraud who is priming the coffers of his family business with the money of poor and uneducated believers in his twisted take of what God Almighty asks of us. Many evangelical religious leaders in America run their church as their own personal family corporations. Their sons are all schooled to inherit and take over these corporations. Thus the need for the continuation of religion as career choice to maintain their mansions, personal colleges and vast wealth holdings. These are not to be confused with actual religious institutions, just the family business. Fools who support the continued wealth of parasites like Robertson deserve to lose their money. They actually derive nothing Godly from him, only enrich him further. Falwell is shoveling sh** in Hades and Roberts has recently arrived there. None of these frauds deserve anything good for themselves or their families, for they used God merely to enrich themselves.

"zebra4" noted: "I am thankful to God that I am not selfish, greedy, anti-environment, anti-people, racist, bigot, callous and ruthless. AT LEAST, I TRY TO BE NOT THOSE THINGS."

But then there is that violation of the Torah's Ninth commandment??

Keep in mind that this is an anonymous blog and imposters abound.

Anyone who thinks geophysical phenomena like weather or earthquakes are affected by religion is a nut.

As is anyone who thinks Haiti's status as the poorest nation in the West is unrelated to their being black-ruled the longest.

I called the Devil this morning to see if he'd really made a pact with the Haitians. Rush said he didn't know anything about this.

It seems obvious to me that Pat Robertson is just full-blown bat-sh** crazy.

If Americans want to truly see hate and vile talk, just read the comments to this article-which is what I would expect from the vast majority of those who would even take the Washington Post seriously. I just like to monitor what the "other side" is "thinking"-if one can use that word here.

When I read Pat's comment, I thought that the man was truly crazy; however, after seeing the clip, I'm not so sure.

I do not necessarily agree with him, but just wanted folks to know that WaPo tried to start a fire with their written story.

Pat Robertson only proves that all manipulative, truth-bending psychopaths are not in prison.

The very clever are often successful business types like himself - selling what sells to the unsuspecting and in his case, the product is fundamentalism of the worst kind.

He's really no different in spirit than Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter, peddling hate and bottom-feeding in their chosen public venues - they are three peas in a very rancid pod, if you ask me. Clearly they have plenty of fans, because the money keeps on rolling in.

You just can't escape the creeping sludge exuding from Robertson and his ilk - it's everywhere.

Lindsay has a point that Robertson's hateful statements about divine wrath aren't the full story about him and his agenda. But I see Robertson as much more dangerous to the First Amendment principle of government neutrality among religions - his Regent University has an explicitly theocratic mission.

"In some ways, Robertson simply gives voice to a tendency all believers experience when grappling with the big question of why evil exists in a world made by a loving, powerful God."

This is the problem - the Haitian earthquake doesn't constitute "evil" because it wasn't caused by humans. I would reserve that term for the suffering that humans cause each other. My answer to such believers is that suffering happens, and that all we can do in circumstances like this is to help the victims any way we can.

"But any prophet who fakes it, who claims to speak in my name something I haven't commanded him to say, or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die." (Deut 18, The Message)

DOES HIS MEMBERSHIP EVER ASK HIM QUESTIONS? THEY SHOULD SEND REV. PAT TO HAITI TO REVALUE THE PEOPLE OF HAITI AND REPORT BACK IF HE CAN GET OUT OF THERE ALIVE. MONEY SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM ACCOUNT HIS CHURCH IS TAX FREE.

Pat Robertson is filthy racist bigot. I hope that woman standing next to him on the broadcast Kneed the dumb S#$ o& B!#$%, till the kingdom come. As we secularists say it really takes a believer to do the most cruelest things on the planet. But dumb pond scum doesn't even need any perceived notion of being oppressed or anything. He just spouts garbage just so he could say something.

I agree that Pat Robertson should be condemned. After all, what is wrong with a country like Haiti that largely practises voodoo? And such "religion" is currently being used in the White House with one of the principal targets being capitalism.

Not a pact with the Devil. And not John but Job. (Incredibly Rev. Robertson has forgotten his Job!)

Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job is the place where the question of evil is answered.

"Robertson simply gives voice to a tendency all believers experience when grappling with the big question of why evil exists in a world made by a loving, powerful God."

Do "all" of your "believers" experience the same lame and shallow apology for a charlatan and Pharisee? What's your motive, Lindsay?

Is your Personal Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, complicit in this revenge of death, pain and destruction? If so, maybe his followers deserve a jail cell in the Hague with your international war criminal, Lord Cheney.

TO:

Rev. Dr. Walter Arthur McGray
The National Black Evangelical Association

It will be interesting in the coming days to see what kind of relief The National Black Evangelical Association sends to Haiti as it compares to Robertson's Operation Blessing. If Robertson doesn't send any help, then he is to be condemned. If your group doesn't send any help, I shall say nothing.

Trouble is, I really do believe that Robertson really believes what he says. And worse, there are others who will believe what was said because Robertson said it.

Thank you, WAMMCCRAY at 10:52, for denouncing what Robertson said and giving another Christian response. Other Christian leaders need to speak up with a different message and the media needs to report those other messages.

Someone among the "On Faith" writers, needs to gather information about the response of other Christian leaders to give some balance to the "Christian view" of this tragedy in Haiti and to make the point that Robertson does not speak for all Christian.

Pat Robertson is an evil man. His followers support and participate in the evil he creates.

Now is the time for those who call themselves Christian to declare that Robertson is not a Christian in ANY way. They must say in no uncertain terms that he worships evil, he speaks evil, he does evil.

It is not enough to say that Robertson is "misguided" or "confused" or "aging." He must be cast out of Christianity entirely and publicly. Otherwise, like it or not, he continues to represent Christianity to America and to the world.

I am thankful to God that I am not selfish, greedy, anti-environment, anti-people, racist, bigot, callous and ruthless. AT LEAST, I TRY TO BE NOT THOSE THINGS.

Maybe. I personally suspect that the outrageous comments - which have been going on for some years now but are of relatively recent date relative to Robertson's career - are early signs of encroaching age. I'm sure many readers have elderly relatives who started saying off-the-wall things on occasion and nobody thought anything of it until the Alzheimer's got too advanced to ignore or deny. It could happen to any of us or our own loved ones, Christian or not. The only question is, are the people around him aware of the problem? A leader like Pat Robertson could do so much, even in decline, by shifting his focus from the political to the personal and showing his followers an example of how faith can sustain a person even in the twilight of life. Hopefully those around him will help him do this and not let his life and work end as the butt of jokes.

On Wednesday, January 13, Evangelist Pat Robertson inferred that the earthquake which has devastated Haiti, an African-descended, and the poorest nation in the Western hemisphere, is the judgment of God for a legendary pact they made with the devil so that they would be delivered from oppression at the hands of French whites. He said the Haitians are “cursed.”

The National Black Evangelical Association cannot with greater passion deplore those comments, and ungodly, unbiblical response from Robertson. As Black evangelicals we distance ourselves from such perspectives of right-wing evangelical leaders and their followers.

Jesus set the record straight. In John chapter 9:1ff., the disciples asked the Lord why a “natural disaster” happened to a man who was born blind. Was it due to the man’s sin in his mother’s womb, or to his parents sin? Jesus answered, neither. God was doing something different; revealing His miraculous works in the life of that man.

Jesus and His true followers would not for a moment tolerate the theological speculation of Christian leaders about the origins of evil at a time when millions of people are suffering unbearably for their survival. He would admonish them to shut their hypocritical mouths, to show compassion, and to serve the Haitians with the liberating and care-giving work of true evangelical leaders of the Most High God.

Pat Robertson is blinded by his pharisaical so-called theology.

The National Black Evangelical Association
Rev. Dr. Walter Arthur McCray
President / www.the-nbea.org
01/14/10

Did you discover the obvious? That Pat Robertson doesn't believe in God and is just using the image to enrich himself in both power and money. It is no more complex than that. Every word, every action points to these two things and nothing else.