Not that this should be a contest, but for perspective. Yes there are violent passages in the Koran and Bible. One website has done some of the work for us:

Koran: 333 violent passages, 6236 cruel/violent verses

Bible: 842 violent passages, 31102 cruel/violent verses

Sure as a matter of %, the Bible is a much larger book. So % wise, yes the Koran does have more violent verses 5.3% Koran vs. 2.7% Bible.

Thats plenty of fodder/material for any extremist to justify just about anything.

I can't post links I assume, but search up skepticsannotedbible. It has links to violent passages in the Old Testatament/New Testament/Koran etc.

In the end, the vast majority of followers of both Islam and Christianity know where to put these verses. These verses are essentially stories or verses relating to certain historical events. Its a narrative. A story.

Yes, lunatics will use whatever they can to justify anything. This isn't a new phenomena. The difference is we're dealing with 1.6 billion muslims. To label them all as extremists is quite silly when perhaps the total number of muslims engaged in some form of violence in the world is likely less than 1%. A sense of perspective is important.

I think quoting statements from any religious text without context is a mistake, and is frankly not being objective. This is a common habit of Evangelical Christians and people among the Right Wing in demonizing Islam. When it comes to violent passages in the Bible, the response is often, "well those are historical passages."

Yet with the Koran, the historical context is ignored...hence, a double standard.

One could do the same with the Bible. Take things piece meal.

Yes there is violence in the Islamic world, but much of that has less to do with religion than it has to do with illiteracy, social and political misery, and economic failures. Christianity has had its share of violence historically.

People can quote anything they want and justify anything. This applies to religion, fascism, or any ideology. Hinduism is a peaceful religion, yet the Tamil Tigers (Hindus) led the world in suicide bombings for much of the 1980s/1990s were Hindus.

For the sake of balance, lemme take the liberty to quote some passages from the Bible out of context, ignoring any historical context to any of the passages (similar to what the previous posts have done with the Koran).

Psalms 137: in referring to Babylon, the verse extols those who would seize Babylon’s infants and smash their skulls against the rocks.

Another passage essentially legitimizes killing people of other beliefs:

Deuteronomy 17:2-3,5: "If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; ... Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."

Deut 32:42: God says: "I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh"

Deut. 20: 16-18 On arriving to Canaan, Moses instructs his people to anhiilate anyone they find in the cities

Joshua 8: God Commands Joshua and his people, that upon conquering the city of Ai, that he take away the livestock and the loot, and kill all the inhabitants

Joshua 10: all the prisoners of war are killed.

1 Samuel 15:2-3 God orders King Saul to kill the Amalekite people, killing every man, woman, and child, and livestock

Numbers 31:40 where the ancient Jews (allegedly) killed the men, women, and little boys, but saved the virgins "for yourselves," Moses here commits ritual sacrifice of virgin women.

Most Christians and Jews ignore these violent passages and do not agree with them. Most Muslims do the same.

Yet it isnt far fetched to see that if there is a part of the world with turmoil, illiteracy, political/social hardships, it would be easy to use religious passages to drum up support for any cause.

In addition, the most popular manual of Islamic sacred law, approved by the highest Islamic religious authorities of Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, says: "Jihad means to make war on non-Muslims." What could be clearer than that?

Posted by: Montedoro

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Which "manual" of Islamic "sacred" law?

When formulated said?

Who approved said?

When approved said?

Sharia is a threat to America. It should be banned, and this school should be closed.

http://loganswarning.com/2010/08/26/sharia-law-islamic-law-101-non-muslims-under-sharia/

Greetings, I found the article most interesting.
{Firstly I was wondering if you are aware of the the report released in USA on 15 september 2010, Shariah: The Threat to America. (An Exercise in Competitive Analysis—Report of Team 'B' II}

With specific reference to the article,I would raise the following perspective.
I accept not all muslims are terrorists. However all modern day terrorists are Muslims.

To that end in light of all the Suras in the Koran I would ask the islamic c,
1.Why is the islamic community allowing terrorists to hijack their religion to justify hideous attacks on western countries?
2.What are the so called "moderate muslims" doing to prevent abuse of their religion?
3. They complain about those reacting to radical Islam, labeling them "islamophobics". What do they expect them to do?
What would they do if the shoe was on the other foot? Look at the Copts in egypt!!
Does Saudi Arabia acknowledge It is the responsibility of every moderate muslim to claim ownership of Islam,and openly denounce any muslim abusing /using the koran to ratify their evil acts.
Do they agree, that when Islam takes control of its own faith, people may start respect for them?
Do they agree It should not up to the western nations to clean up the mess left behind by radical islam?
Do they agree, the inaction of the islamic community, is not helping them or their image as a religion?
Do they accept we in the west have no option but to protect ourselves from terrorists commiting names in the name of Islam?
Do they feel ashamed and embarrassed by the 100,000's of YouTube videos and internet sites where Islamic religious leaders are promoting absolute vile draconian and evil doctrines in the name of Islam?
Do they think these so called islamic leaders are helping the cause of moderate islam, or our perception of Islam?
Do they agree these same people are the ones who damaging the name of islam and causing us to be weiry of it?
What are they and the Muslim community doing about them?
Actually, What does the Koran say they the keepers of islam should do with any one perverting the word of the koran?
Finally, if you are going to be totally honest, I would ask them, what are the islamic religious leaders going to do about the suras in the koran that are interpreted by the terrorist to commit acts of violence, and call for the killing of Jews and Christians?
Are they aware terrorists are been motivated by the life of Mohammed in the Hadith and the Koran?
Do they accept this is the root of the problems?
As an educate person, I would be telling them it is high time for islam to stop pointing the finger,
claim ownership of islam, control the muslims and clean out their own house.
When are the Saudi's going to excommunicate the entire "Islamic brotherhood" in Egypt?
Islam must show a duty of care for ISLAM and responsibility and actually act against those muslims commiting these acts.
Islams Greatest threat are the radicals within islam!

Well said Montedoro.
Muslims' claim that facts about islam are being taken out of context is false and a lie
and a whitewash.
Islam is an arab supremacist evil ideology;it is a shame for any non arab to be a muslim because according to their own belief they will never get in islam's so called paradise unless they speak arabic because arabic is the supposed language there.

"Zaytuna College will communicate Islam's tenets and practices to the broader American public..."
Here are some of the tenets of Islam which Zaytuna will convey when it teaches the Koran:
-- The unbelievers among the people of the book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (98.6).
-- Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve. (8.55)
--The unbelievers are your inveterate enemy. (4:101)
-- Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. (48:29).
-- It is unlawful for a believer to kill another believer, accidents excepted. (4:92)
-- Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. (5:51)
-- Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme. (8:40)
-- Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme. (2:193)
-- The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. (4:76)
-- We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. (3:151)
-- I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. (8:12)
And here are some tenets from Muhammad:
-- Muhammad said to the Jews: "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. “
-- Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
-- Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever says, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah , his life and property will be saved by me." (otherwise it will not).
-- Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."
-- Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel).
-- Muhammad said: "Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, …"

In addition, the most popular manual of Islamic sacred law, approved by the highest Islamic religious authorities of Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, says: "Jihad means to make war on non-Muslims." What could be clearer than that?