Social conservatives lead the Tea Party
Delaware GOP Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell this weekend attended the annual conservative Values Voters summit in Washington, DC. There, she emphasized that although she is backed by the Tea Party, she is also a politician who toiled for years in the "values movement," alluding to her longtime work as a Christian activist.
What is the Tea Party? Is it a recession-era version of the religious right? Is it something else? And if the Tea Party is not a religious movement, why is it raising up candidates like O'Donnell who has a strong background in religious activism?
Sarah Palin is a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Israel evangelical Christian. Senator Jim DeMint is a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Israel conservative Presbyterian. Congressman Mike Pence is a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Israel, former conservative talk show host, third highest-ranking Republican in the House of Representatives, evangelical Christian. Christine O'Donnell is a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Israel, former "values movement" activist, conservative Catholic. Michele Bachmann is a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Israel evangelical Lutheran. Combined, these individuals represent the Tea Party's de facto leadership in the political realm.
Bachmann is the chair of the House's official Tea Party Caucus, Pence is a member.
Notice a trend?
As a social conservative activist myself, I'm tired of the media dividing social conservatives and Tea Party activists in an attempt to conquer the broader "conservative" movement. There were articles following last weekend's Values Voters conference about social conservatives trying to stay relevant in the age of the Tea Party.
Is the media that dense? Palin, DeMint, Pence, O'Donnell, and Bachmann are social conservatives. We, social conservatives, are leading the Tea Party in the court of public opinion. Sure, the focus on issues may be a bit different now, but that's because we are a more sophisticated, diverse movement that understands when economic times are tough, people want to shake things up. This does not make us any less concerned about abortion or other traditional social issues. In fact, the people actually concerned are the Democrats and establishment Republicans that social conservatives have fought since the founding of the Moral Majority and Christian Coalition.
Borrowing a favorite line of President Obama, "let me be clear." The Tea Party is a grassroots uprising of Americans, not lifelong politicians. The individuals I have highlighted are not official leaders of this movement. They are prominent voices who have chosen to bravely challenge the status quo of the Republican Party internally.
As social conservatives, we are ecstatic about the growth and influence of the Tea Party movement. Many of us felt like we were tolerated and courted by the establishment GOP but never truly belonged. Now, we have arrived.
Call us tea partiers, radical right-wingers, Republicans, fundamentalists, Libertarians, or Independents.
On November 2nd, you'll be calling most of us winners.
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Posted by: GodlyLady1 | October 1, 2010 11:33 PM
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Excuse Me!! The Tea Party and none of the people you named in your article are Socialits! You, the Administration, Congress & the Senate are the Socialists!
We want our Freedom-and all of our "Inalienable rights in the Constitution, given to us by our Creator-God! -Not you athiestic, socialist!
We will win big in November! We will send you all running to hide!
Posted by: birder356 | October 1, 2010 5:12 PM
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First of all I find your stincking comment of any body's religion as "stinking" very offensive. Anybody that hates as much as you do combined with the ignorance of God that you have are the very elements that fuels the enemies of America like the taliban. The source of your evil comes from trying to exault yourself above God.
For those of the liberal media who have no clue of what the Tea Party is all about I suggest you go back to your colleges and highschools to complain about their failure to teach the US history that serves as half of the foundational background to the Tea Part thinking. The orginal Tea Party people complained about taxation without representation from the King of England. All the same issues exsist today and now includes the Christian religon as it did then.
Posted by: ATLASS | October 1, 2010 1:57 AM
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Hammersmith wrote: "So, either you come to God through Him alone (on His terms) or your default destiny is the Lake of Fire. This is your ultimate choice, whether you like it or not. And the choice is yours and yours alone."
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If I have to choose, I guess I'll take the Lake of Fire?
You can't be serious.
Irrational Superstition.
Good grief.
Posted by: Freestinker | September 30, 2010 10:03 PM
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Why am I a member of the Tea Party.
Because our Decleration O Independence say that THE CREATOR not the goverment, gave me my Rights. The CONSTITUTION protects my rights. Madison who wrote the First Admendment, said" Religion is the foundation of Goverment". Jefferson only wrote the words "seperation of church and state" in a letter to the Church at Danbury, to assure them that the First Amendment, protected their rights. The 4th Admendment guarentees me A REPUBLIC FORM OF GOVERMENT,and states that it is the goverments responsibility to protect me from invasion. My elected officials are required by the Constitution to take an oath to uphold it. Congress is not upholding ots oath of office, they are not giving me a republic form of goverment, and they are for sure not protectiong me from invasion.
Now let me quote Hamilton ''A NATION STATE CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT MANUFACTURING''
I stopped being a loyal republician when all but 16 members of the Senate passed the most favored nation trade status for China.
I have no desire to be a global citizen. I want to be an AMERICIAN. Obama may be rolling down the road to socialism, but Bush paved the highway. There is no difference between a liberal democrat and a globalization republician. Neither party represents me, the Constitution or what it means to be an AMERICIAN.
Posted by: deeNC05 | September 30, 2010 12:13 AM
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Dear charlesnewman1:
Thanks for the correction. I wish I could change it. What an enormous faux pax! If they were throwing eggs, I'd be drowning!
DixieDewberry
Posted by: dixiedewberry | September 29, 2010 1:21 PM
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The truth is homosexual behavious is a sin. Jesus tells us to repent and be baptized for the remission of ALL our sins.
1 Corinthians 6:9 the Apostle Paul writes
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
He further tells us in Luke 9:23 Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.
Jesus is soverign. He says "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father but by me."
So, either you come to God through Him alone (on His terms) or your default destiny is the Lake of Fire. This is your ultimate choice, whether you like it or not. And the choice is yours and yours alone.
Posted by: hammersmith | September 29, 2010 8:54 AM
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I watched on Fox News as Carl Rove insulted The Tea Party. What are the Republicians afraid of? We are sick and tired of the status quo. We are sick and tired of the total lack of ethics in Washington. If incumbents don't change then lets vote the bums out.
Posted by: jadaniels1 | September 29, 2010 8:02 AM
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I AM A CHRISTIAN AND WITH GOD ON ARE SIDE WHO CAN BE AGAINST US,REMEMBER THE OLD TESTAMENT GOD AND ALL THE KING BEFORE US HOW AND WHY THEY FELL.LETS NOT LOSE ARE FREEDOM BECAUSE SOME WANT TO EXCISE SIN AS A LIFE STYLE.
Posted by: RIMGUARD1 | September 29, 2010 12:29 AM
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The words tea party bring to mind primarily The Boston Tea Party, the stirrings of a revolutionary response to what was likely perceived as an apathetic government imposing their own will upon the people. (Also Martin Short, why you may ask, because his hilarious role as the Mad Hatter in the very adult-minded children's movie "Alice In Wonderland" involved a tea party as well.. but we won't go there, lol.) On a serious note, the notion of a grassroots tea party serves as a sort of check and balance system in our country, with the tea party being the pulse of the people, the voice of the people, the will of the people, whereas we witness a situation involving government in which an oppressive, dictating will seems to be imposed in such a manner that the American people feel that they have no say, no voice, no choice. Seemingly such a scenario brings the intensity of the tea party movement to life. We need the tea party to a certain extent irregardless of one's individual party, in order to protect and sustain the core traditional values we deem to be uniquely American. Some are attempting to make radical changes within our country; there's a strong, mocking, rising sentiment against the existence of God, Christianity, Christian morality, and core conservative values. A certain amount of change in our country is both timeless and inevitable.. like the ebb and flow of the sea, likewise a certain degree of preservation is called for. As Christians, we are to respond to threatening changes with a sound mind, a spirit lacking in fear. It may be doubtful that America can find a way to truly unite, yet to a certain extent that is precisely what we need to do. Poor decisions can have some damaging or lingering consequences, but someone (actually a high percentage of extremely concerned citizens) has to find the courage within to stand up and fight for our country's survival. It is often glaringly evident when that need exists. Several here have made comments expressive of experiencing fear.. fear for our nation, fear regarding the future, fear of government, fear of the economy, fear of lack, fear of taxes, fear of the adversary, whomever they might be. Fear often springs from a lack of trust, faith, and hope in general, and simply has got to be overcome; for without trust, and to a reasonable degree~ trusted leadership, chaos exists, and division worsens, so our country cannot prevail as it should, and move progressively forward. Perhaps the Tea Party will play the most vital role of all, in determining the final outcome for the crucial political crossroads ahead of us.
Posted by: Jill007 | September 28, 2010 11:34 PM
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The Tea Party is the no-longer-silent majority. Like a train it is slow to start but once moving is a powerful force.
All Aboard!
Posted by: texasdowneaster | September 28, 2010 10:56 PM
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I identify with the tea party movement! I'm a believer in a constitutionally conservative government tempered with a strong belief in the lord!! Our politicians work for us! They need integrity-something I see very little of in congress! Pres. Obama has passed legislation by lies, intimidation, and shortsightedness! I require honesty and integrity, something too few politicians have. If our government doesn't have the money in the bank I refuse them permission to spend my grandchildrens' money! If our government says they can't control our borders - I say they are a bunch of liars!! North Korea, East Germany, Iran, and a host of other third world countries don't seem to have the same problem with that!! The American people are not stupid - wake up congress - you're stupidity is showing!!
Posted by: rwabraham | September 28, 2010 5:43 PM
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I don't vote party lines, I vote my ideals and beliefs. I don't mind the tea party mentioning God. I don't like when our Government removes it. A recent trip to DC and the WWII memorial has Roosevelt's message, but leaves off the end of his full quote, "so help us God." That's unacceptable. I grew up in the United States as a military brat. The US Flag was idolized. Prayer was a norm. Honesty and integrity were institutions. When I saw the Government/Administration remove the day of prayer, it bothered me a lot. It made me even madder when the President removed his shoes on TV and got on his knees praying/bowing in a "new" Moslem day of prayer. I abhor lying, cheating and dishonesty. For the homo sexual pundits, I read your comments. I disagree with your insinuations that homosexual perversion is acceptable behavior and we should accept it. I believe as a non-religious father and grand father, that homosexuals rank up there with pediphiles, beastiality, rapists and rabid dogs. I don't like any group forcing their unconventional lifestyle and life-choices on my family values. Last, we should be concerned that the Federal Government is trying to control ecvery facet of our lives by teaching our young children homosexuality is acceptable behavior. We need a revamped party (ies), that have the fortitude to do what's right, moral and for the betterment of "WE THE PEOPLE." Since 1953 violence has increased, unacceptable language is acceptable; culturally, the US is dumber, more wicked, with less freedoms, more evil, less prosperous, more easily swayed in believing propoganda as truth, and more confused. I'm hoping some of those alien/UFO ships start accepting volunteers...because mother America is dying a slow death.
Posted by: 1956Nomad | September 28, 2010 5:26 PM
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I don't vote party lines, I vote my ideals and beliefs. I don't mind the tea party mentioning God. I don't like when our Government removes it. A recent trip to DC and the WWII memorial has Roosevelt's message, but leaves off the end of his full quote, "so help us God." That's unacceptable. I grew up in the United States as a military brat. The US Flag was idolized. Prayer was a norm. Honesty and integrity were institutions. When I saw the Government/Administration remove the day of prayer, it bothered me a lot. It made me even madder when the President removed his shoes on TV and got on his knees praying/bowing in a "new" Moslem day of prayer. I abhor lying, cheating and dishonesty. For the homo sexual pundits, I read your comments. I disagree with your insinuations that homosexual perversion is acceptable behavior and we should accept it. I believe as a non-religious father and grand father, that homosexuals rank up there with pediphiles, beastiality, rapists and rabid dogs. I don't like any group forcing their unconventional lifestyle and life-choices on my family values. Last, we should be concerned that the Federal Government is trying to control ecvery facet of our lives by teaching our young children homosexuality is acceptable behavior. We need a revamped party (ies), that have the fortitude to do what's right, moral and for the betterment of "WE THE PEOPLE." Since 1953 violence has increased, unacceptable language is acceptable; culturally, the US is dumber, more wicked, with less freedoms, more evil, less prosperous, more easily swayed in believing propoganda as truth, and more confused. I'm hoping some of those alien/UFO ships start accepting volunteers...because mother America is dying a slow death.
Posted by: 1956Nomad | September 28, 2010 5:21 PM
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BUFFALOPHIL,
Well said.
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While I am agnostic, I do believe some kind of End Times is approaching. I rather doubt that it will occur in 2012, or that it will be some kind of Biblically mandated Armageddon, but I do foresee the Balkanization of the United States within two generations.
The intense polarization visible in these comments is one glaring symptom of this upcoming upheaval. Sadly, I do not see any real possibility of ameliorating this polarization; sometimes breaking up is the only solution to a failing relationship.
Posted by: TunaMcDermott | September 28, 2010 5:00 PM
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From A Pro-Life Conservative family, who just wants his desires to be listened to by our ELECTED Officials. Not to be classed as Terrorists for wanting a better country that is heading back to the founding Christian Principles. Not a Godless society, which is he way we are heading. God WILL NOT BLESS US IF WE CONTINUE OUR PRESENT PATH AND THEN MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON AMERICA!!!
Posted by: edlisau | September 28, 2010 4:58 PM
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As an organizer of two successful Tea Party events in Oconee County Georgia I can honestly say that we have seen all sides of social, religious, and economical issues presented at our events. The whole idea has been to allow anyone to express any concern about any issue. As a former Councilman I have seen the frustration of citizens first hand.
To try to put limits on the discussion; except for time, would go against the
very spirit the Tea Party as we see it.
Once the facts are presented, each person is free to decide on which side they land. By having this format we provide those who feel that their view is not usually represented a public forum. Media representation has fair and appreciated.
Come join us on 4/15/2010.
Woody Bruce
Bogart, GA
Posted by: woodybruce | September 28, 2010 4:18 PM
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I think is is clear from these posts, despite the ebst of intentions, that the tea party is consumed by folks prone to thinking Obama is a Communist because he has social values, a traitor because he has bowed to foreign dignitaries as is the normal custom in those countries and a muslim because he believes in a private display of religion and isn't a bible thumper. What ever the original intent or platform was of the tea party, they are not a party that can be respected. IF you want limited govt and fiscal responability, help make those changes, but appoint the nuts to run the gov't
Posted by: cadam72 | September 28, 2010 3:55 PM
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I was a member of both parties at one time. Yet over time disassociated myself with both. I am now involved with the constitution party.
As for the tea party, it is a breathe of fresh air. I personally think they would be better off teaming up with the constitution party since many of their core values are the same.
Is the tea party a threat? I think it poses a threat to both major parties and that is the only threat. They seem to be doing good things in their attempt to create a movement to undo the damage done by the two major parties.
Would I vote for one of their canidates? Darn RIGHT.
Posted by: no1steeler1 | September 28, 2010 1:44 PM
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The Tea Party Movement is not a "right-wing" religious organization. It is a grass-roots uprising of United States citizens who are tired of our elected representatives not representing their constituents. When congressional representatives vote for what they themselves want, and not how the voters in their district ask them to vote, it is time for them to be replaced. They need to be replaced with representatives who truly represent the citizens in their district. The Tea Party movement is also about less government intrusion into citizens' personal lives. The government was established to "provide for the common defense." Today, the government is more about social programs than it is about defending our nation from outside threats. This current administration is minimizing our military funding and strength and attempting to increase funding to interfere in our private lives. The federal government does not belong in the business of health care, education, student loans, regulating business, Wall Street, etc., etc. The Tea Party movement is all about putting decisions that impact United States citizens, back into the hands of the citizens where it belongs. This current administration attacks the movement unfairly in an attempt to discredit us. They do not want less government control over our lives; they want total control over our lives. If they can convince people that the group is just a bunch of religious fanatics, then they can strengthen their position of total control. The Tea Party movement wants to go back to the government that was the intention of our Constitution; a democratic government ruled by the people; not a socialist government ruled by an "elite" few. I don't know why the media is in the governments' pocket but they are totally out of touch with the sentiments of a large portion of the population, as evidenced by the lack of support for their publications and so called "news" stations. The Tea Party movement remembers when the citizens of this country criticized the old Soviet Union because their "news" media was just an arm of the government; not reporting the news, but attempting to make the news in the image of the government's agenda. We used to brag about how our country's newspapers were fair and just and reported truth. This is no longer true; we are the old Soviet Union; and the Tea Party movement is tired of it. Because the media will no longer report the position of the people, but just the position of the government, the Tea Party movement has been forced into a position to represent us. The government thought the movement was just a blip on the horizon but, thank goodness, it has become a force to be reckoned with. When things are going well the people become apathetic because there is no reason to be up in arms about anything. Those days are over. I am hopeful that the people have gotten up off their comfortable couch of apathy and will now continue to be involved in the issues that affect all of our lives.
Posted by: mobwar | September 28, 2010 1:41 PM
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Everyone keeps trying to make the Tea Party movement into one of religious fanatics! I am not a religious person and I am pro-choice, but I agree with the Tea Party movement. The Tea Party movement is a group of people who are tired of the status quo. We are republicans who are sick and tired of the "republicans" in today's political arena who are as liberal as the democrats. We are libertarians who want limited government control. We are democrats who are tired of the "ultra liberals" who have hijacked this country for their own agenda. And finally, we are everyday people who are tired of being taxed to death to pay for every "entitlement" given to those who refuse to work. We are tired of people from other countries coming here and not paying into our social security and other taxes and then reaping the benefits of health care, welfare, etc. They come over our borders and give birth to their "anchor children" and then are "entitled" to support. We are also sick and tired of the "entitlement syndrome" that has been heaped on the people of this country who think that now that Obama is President, they will get their "Obama money!" We are honest, hard-working Americans who want to take back our country and the Constitution that it was founded on.
Posted by: cpccat | September 28, 2010 11:55 AM
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To me, the Tea Party is a groundswell of Americans who formerly believed they no longer had a voice in American politics. After the betrayal of conservatives by Newt Gingrich and company, I simply gave up. Those "conservatives" we elected had the power and the mandate from the people to move this country back toward its original ideology (liberty and self-reliance) and they simply rolled over and showed that they were actually liberals, or at least liberal sympathizers.
Watching liberals and pseudo-conservatives systematically drive this great country into a socialistic nation of whiners has been gut-wrenching for me. I am sooo grateful for the Tea Party. For the first time in many years, I have hope for America again.
Posted by: ksandberg | September 28, 2010 11:12 AM
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I am retired Army. Having said that, here is a letter from a retired Colonel that strikes a chord with me. Perhaps this is correct, perhaps not. The more important point to consider is that the questions deserve to be answered. Lastly, if you do not believe in conspiracies you have not studied history. This relates to the Tea Party in an abstract way, but not directly. Many of his comments are paraphrasing Tea Party concerns.
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Each day we see additional evidence of government taking over every segment of our lives...increasing debt, increasing tax, regulation limiting nearly every aspect of our life, total runaway government spending, on and on......
Other more devious forces are at work. Call me nutty, crazy, conspiracy whacko, or whatever, but remember I spent over 34 years defending America from forces without and am not about to allow forces from within destroy our nation while I still have the means to resist.
There is an evil plot to over-throw the United States Constitution..........and most of the Congress knows of the plot, that Obama is an illegal holder of the presidency. Congress, the Judiciary knows for a fact that Obama is certainly not a "natural born citizen" as required by Article 2, Section of the US Constitution, and maybe not even a citizen...........
No government official...not the Congress, not the Supreme Court, not the lower courts, not the military UCMJ...no government official or agency will allow the truth to be surfaced.
Not Glenn Beck, not Bill O'Reilly, and certainly not the MSM..........Beck with all his bluster about "step boldly", "seek the truth" is another one that knows the truth about Obama but is scared sh...tless to make the case to the American people...if Beck really seeks truth, then he will sacrifice as necessary to stand for the US Constitution......
We are in the fight for the very survival of America.............I urge you and other patriots to lock arms, stand shoulder to shoulder with other patriots, reach out to all you know in order for information to be passed. Please ask your friends to join PFA......it's free and all we want to do is protect our nation and share information.
There is a new force that has joined the fight for freedom and liberty...check it out www.patriotsunion.org
God bless you special.
Harry Riley, COL,USA, Ret
Visit Constitutional Emergency at: http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network
Posted by: BudParker | September 28, 2010 11:11 AM
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The Tea Party. Hard to define precisely. My personal thought is that the Tea Party is sick and tired of the same old Washington where Bills are passed that no one read, much less comprehended. They voted Yea simply because the Power Elite said to.
A Government that refuses to consider the Constitutionality of the Laws they pass.
A Government that does not listen to the MAJORITY of the voices of “We The People.”
A Government filled with politicians that believe “government of the money, by the money, for the money, shall not perish from the earth.”
A Government that is filled with politicians that only have one goal: Remain in Office at any cost.
A Government staffed by politicians that exempt themselves from the laws they foist upon sleeping Americans.
A Government filled with politicians that can retire after one term.
A Government filled with politicians that only make less than $200,000 a year, yet become quite wealthy in a short amount of time. Can you think of a Senator or Congressman that isn’t wealthy? If not, why not?
Posted by: BudParker | September 28, 2010 9:41 AM
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I hope the Tea Party or even conservative Libertarians don't put its own candidate forward to run against another conservative. I firmly believe that'd only serve to split the conservative vote, paving the way for more liberal victories.
I don't see the Tea Party as a religious entity, but without that higher-than-mankind moral standard for law, Relativism necessarily must reign, and that has an ultimate end of total anarchy.
Posted by: ognyen | September 28, 2010 9:28 AM
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I thank my Living God everyday for the FREEDOM to speak my opinion. I think we all need a history lesson to remember why the Boston Tea Party even happend. Obviously, there are many on opposite sides in this discussion, which all have the FREEDOM to voice in this country. Our Constitution established it (by the grace of God). Yes, many have fought and died for this freedom and for that, I believe most who live in this country are eternally grateful. Whether the battle is with words or blood, FREEDOM IS worth fighting for. Tea Party, keep on!
Posted by: saffer1 | September 28, 2010 8:48 AM
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Gosh,people, I'm no nut job nor am I scared. I just want the government to stop spending so much money and rely on the Constitution as its guide. It would also be nice if our president could prove he is a US citizen. Oh yes, and I love God and my country. Have a nice day.
Posted by: JL16 | September 28, 2010 8:05 AM
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I am delighted with the Tea Party. I believe God will use us to save America.
There was a time when I was on the other side of the Christian issues. Jesus healed me. Yes, I said HEALED. I am no longer gay. In fact, I delight in being the woman God made me to be. It's fun!
I do advise that we remember to hate the sin but love the sinner. We are all sinners, some of us saved by grace. I think most gay folks need to be HEALED.
At this time, most folks who need HEALING from a dis-ease caused by sin, and we all have sin, most gay folks think you HATE us. A little more compassion and a little less judgement would bring many more to Jesus.
Think about it. Would any person in good mental health choose to be gay? It's a life of being condemned, threatened and harassed. Not so long ago, it was in the DSM as a mental illness. Prayer for God's salvation and healing would win more souls to the compassionate Jesus.
Just sharing with the outsiders what I found to be true on the inside. Thank God, he saved me and healed me and now uses me to win souls for him.
Posted by: LoveYahweh1Yahoocom | September 28, 2010 6:31 AM
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Me, oh my, the terror of the tea party is rampant throughout the land! Next thing you know, they will be linked to the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution! How fearsome to imagine people who recognize that government does not originate a solid code of morality nor does it follow such a code since governments change morality with every new cycle of elections.
The founders understood the fickleness of man changing codes to satisfy his current whims and realized that truth comes from "Our Creator" alone.
Posted by: donnellymjjd | September 28, 2010 5:46 AM
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It looks like Patso got more of his stooges to sign up for accounts here, suddenly there's a hundred more pro-religious-fanatic posts.
Geez, Pat, you're not even slick any more. how are those diamond mines in Africa doing for you?
Posted by: eezmamata | September 28, 2010 4:07 AM
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response @lsk204
It is very much so an oxymoron statement to be a Christian homosexual and is non compatable and antethetical to the Christian faith.Its like saying theirs a heavenly devil or a Christian compusive liar rapist or adulterer.Grace when you really to a saving Faith in Jesus is not without effect.You receive the the grace of God and come to a saving faith in Jesus you must repent of sin and come to the end of yourself.Not just doing good works and trying to be good.I mean a in love with Jesus relationship were you would take up your cross and follow him.Forsaking yourselfand follwing HIM.See Titus 1:10 for the grace of God has appeared to all men,it teaches us to say NO to ungodiness and wordly passions and to live self controlled and godly upright and godly lives in this present age,while we wait to the glorious appearing of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ,who gave himself for us to redeem us from all sin to PURIFY for Himself a people that are His very own,eager to do what is good. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?Do not be deceived:neither the sexually immoralnor idolators nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders not theives nor the greedy not drunkards not slanderers nor swindlers will enter the inherit(Receive,not enter)the kingdom of God.And that is what some of you WERE(Past tense before you came to Jesus)but you were washed(cleaned up)you were santified(in holiness,made holy)you were justified(for freedom in Christ From your sin)in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit(Holy) of out God.Paul says again later in Galatians 5:19 'The acts of the sinful nature are ovious:Sexual immorality,impurity and debauchery,idolatry and witchcraft,hatred,discord,jealousy,fits of rage,selfish ambition,dissentions,factions and envy,drunkenes,orgies and the like which I warn you,as I did before that those who live like this will not inherit(have;enter)the kingdom of God.Acts 3:19 Repent Then(of sin)and turn to God,so that your sins may be wiped out,that times of refreshing may come from the Lord.See what I'm talking about,Be less woried about what someone anyone told you about being saved and come into a life changing relationship Jesus Christ.The foot of the Cross is level,you come as you are but you can't stay as you are,God loves you too much to leave you in bondage to your own sinful devices and has provided a way for you to live in victory by the power of the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.The bible 2 Corinthians 13:5 says examine yourselves to see whether you in the faith 2 Peter 1:10 to all the more eager to make your calling and election sure.Galations 5:19 those who are Christs have crucified the sinful nature.2 Timothy 2:19 'Never the less,God'solid foundation stands firm,sealed with this inscription:The Lord know those who are HIS and Everyone who confesses the Name of the Lord(Jesus Christ) must turn from wickedness.God can deliver you
Posted by: holien1 | September 28, 2010 2:40 AM
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@Secular
Why must these posts always decline to name calling? The entire issue of birth has nothing to do with me being a “bigot” or a “white crumdgean” or “a simpleton.” However, sir, it has to do with the meaning of “natural born citizen” as it was when the requirement was authored at the beginning of this Nation. That meaning, by the way, has nothing to do with your opinion, nor mine. It simply is what it is. Much of what I have read on the issue precludes anyone born of foreign parents; even just one foreign parent. It is not simply where on terra-firma the fetus first strikes the earth.
However, Mr. Obama has seen fit to prevent the public to see his doctor signed birth certificate. That one simple fact makes many Americans wonder why that is so. His campaign team published a “Short Form” that has been examined and found to be faked. The hospital where he supposedly was born has been reported by his team as being both of the two hospitals in Hawaii. But, then again, since you, secular, can not reasonable argue the merits of the situation, it must be because of your stated opinion of me; not the facts of his parentage or birth. That ploy is rampant among Barack Hussein Obama supporters. When they cannot credibly argue the point, they attack the other party involved in the argument with name calling and vile verbiage.
Have a nice day, secular
Posted by: BudParker | September 28, 2010 2:30 AM
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I have often heard the Constitution referred to as the supreme law of the land. But the constitution says that all laws are to be enacted by the congress, enforced by the executive and ruled on as to constitutionality by the Judicial. When I read the Constitution I see a contract entered into by the sates primarily to form an effective Federal government. It has been amended several times. It is interesting how many things were delberately not mentioned. And how many the new federation was enjoined against treating. (religion, the right to bear arms, etc.) But I note that the most often ignored of the amendments is the last of the ten that had to be added to secure the states approval. Shortly, the 10th amendment simply states that any power (i.e. the power to make laws or enact laws not EXPRESSLY allowed to the federal government are to be the purview of the states and the people ONLY. Following this mandate would eliminate much of today's frictions.
For the reoord, I am straight but the constitution does not require me to be punished for this fact. Nor does it require such action against the homosexual.
I am Christian, But freedom of religion principle implied it tne first amendment requires me to practice my faith honestly. My faith says I am not to condemn the sinner, but rather the sin. The rule of Christ requires that if I am to be an executioner or even a condemner I must be without sin. No can do. Thank God for grace.
Lastly the word bigot means beard pulling. Actions or words meant to cause real pain because of differences of opinion or worldview. It is condemned by most religions. It is also sometimes practiced by most humans.
Posted by: umpad | September 28, 2010 2:29 AM
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Budparker you wrote, "Our dilemma with Mr. Obama is not his color. It is his policies. Birther? Why is the majority of Mr. Obama’s life clouded in mystery? Not just his birth certificate (long form?), but his passport, his educational records, his entire life until he showed up on the scene as an SEIU player. If you have much to hide, you hide much." Why do have this dilemma, how do you know that "W" was not born in Canada. May be Barbra went over to New Foundland, while she was carrying "W", her water broke and dropped "W" on his head. Whinnies, as Mrs Reagan was so fond of calling him, took few hour old bundle of joy shoved him teh trunk and sped back into Kannebunkport and claimed he was born there. Can you prove I am wrong? Don't be silly, Obama's birth was even announced in the news papers in Hawaii. I guess that was also a plant by that Kenyan alcoholic and his wife some 50 years ago right? You are a unadulterated bigot Mr. Parker. Another thing what happened to your rage when "W" was pillaging the treasury? All you birthers and tea partiers were cheering that good-for-nothing alcoholic ignoramus, all the way. Then comes 4/15/2009 and you tea partiers were outraged about teh level of taxation, within 100 days of his taking oath, you may want to say any thing you want but that was unadulterated bull crap. You are nothing but a white crumdgean, who cannot see yourself as a simpleton but a bigoted one at that.
Posted by: Secular | September 28, 2010 12:28 AM
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Recently I was in a driver's class via AARP to get a reduced premium on my insurance. A gentleman next to me, even while class was ongoing, wanted to know if I was a 'tea partier' and I replied yes for what I know of it and almost immediately he said I must be a 'birther' too! I pleaded ignorance even more so and was greeted with I had to be if I was in the 'tea party'. Selfishness needs to die first I think?!
He was interested in arguments more than anything I believe. I finally had to advise him I didn't want to discuss anything further as all he wanted was some one to accuse of something and find them guilty! I have found that increasingly so since Mr. Obama has taken office and I find it terribly sad! I see an increase in 'racism ' such as the confused defintion seems to imply I guess. It used to mean white prejudice toward blacks, colored, African American and too many more labels!
I graduated HS back in 1967 and during those years I dated black girls and then scottish girls and 'real german' girls and then asians and white girls too! I was prejudiced by many of their families with blacks being the worst ... Oh well, it hurt and I did understand then - now I don't! I wrote papers and rode a few buses and marched and then wrote many more articles and cried and prayed and too many times saying 'why can't we all just get along' .. I vowed to continue to fight but as with many of us in our generation our marriages and extra college degrees and moves and more hours of work gave way to our hopes and sincere needs to see right come out ahead ... It is now time again to 'renew' our hopes and now we call ourselves part of a 'tea party'! What is it? Our anger, disbelief, and sometimes disgust and disappointment in ourselves... ourselves asking when the hell am I going to do something and when is enough enough!?!? NOW! The 'now' moment has been different in each of our lives but it is now bursting forth like aliens out of our chests --- determined to bring our dreams, prayers, desires and the much needed respect and love for each other and our children's children!!! We want what is right upheld and that which is wrong excised and I pray won't stop until it is done here and spreads until it touches every person on this small world ... Thanks for listening and please don't be afraid ... only if we don't start now and quickly ...should we be afraid!
Simply we all only want to be loved and cared about and appreciated for who we are ... after all, all that truly matters is you,me, ... each other ... all the rest will be left behind anyway.
Posted by: a777chance | September 28, 2010 12:13 AM
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How distressing to see the initial posts about "stinking religion" and the other hateful responses. As a social conservative, pro-freedom, pro-liberty American, I find your statements so odious as to make me wonder about YOUR true goals and "libertarianism" or whatever. As for the Christian problem you most obviously have (and yes, it should be capitalized)...here's what one of the founding fathers said, and what I believe: “It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” [Patrick Henry ~ May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]
Perhaps you should study the truth regarding our founders and their beliefs...the First Amendment guarantees my right to NOT have to join a "State Church" in order to be a fully participating citizen (e.g., being able to vote); neither the Constitution nor the Declaration mentions "separation of Church and State" - and that same First Amendment ALSO guarantees "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (we won't have a State church), or prohibiting the FREE EXERCISE THEREOF;..."(meaning I can practice, speak about, share, and enjoy) MY faith anywhere I like. It's not stinking, it's what this country was founded on and it's my right to espouse and promote it (as Christ taught). I am also to LOVE and respect those who do not accept it. That, by the way, is the difference between nominal and true Christians: the real ones LOVE you no matter what, and the rest of it is up to God Almighty. As for the Tea Party, I'm with them because of the spending, pushed-thru bills filled with pork (Obamacare, and the arrogance of this Administration. Right on, Jordan.
Posted by: Toony1972 | September 27, 2010 11:38 PM
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Hey lsk204, That was a gutsy thing to put out there...that...
"I'm a GAY,conservative,unaffiliated,Christian..."
As a not gay Christian, I applaude you. I think. Just one question.... Are you meaning that you are a PRACTICING gay, or you are resisting your sinful urges? Just for clarity, so maybe it isn't such an oxym... Not looking to bash, just be clear.
Posted by: Ijustgottasay | September 27, 2010 11:38 PM
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I am convinced that in this evil day Almighty God is still in control and has all power. The Tea Party can be looked at as being the salt of the earth or the candle that will light the room. God's plan will play itself out. No force can stop it. So big ups to the Tea Party for standing up for values and morals. Let God arrise and His enemies be scattered!
Posted by: angelo4 | September 27, 2010 11:10 PM
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@lsk204
From a Non-Gay,conservative,unaffiliated,Christian, retired military man let me say this. "Well said my friend."
Posted by: BudParker | September 27, 2010 10:51 PM
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hears a twist for ya,
I'm a GAY,conservative,unaffiliated,Christian who thinks its high time for the true Christian community to band together and stand up for the undeniable truth of Gods word. Some would say that is one of the greatest oximoronical sentences they have ever heard. I say we are all sinners saved by grace. This doesnt mean when we accept the sacrifice of Jesus that we no longer sin, it means grace covers our sins,past,present and future. Does that give us a get out of hell free card? Certainly not. You have to do your best and let God do the rest. Just that simple. I said all that to say this, no the Tea Party isnt perfect but is sure nice to see a groundswell of folks who still believe in true fundamentalism and not a onesided,if you dont agree with me then you are wrong,kind of attitude.America was formed on conservative values and if we are to survive then we must return to them.
Posted by: lsk204 | September 27, 2010 10:43 PM
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Sorry for the typos, let me repost:
saying that they overlap but are different is good enough for me. I will give you that if you cede that they overlap but are inseperable. Saying they are overlapping but different is like saying philosophy is overlapping but different from science. They are inseperable and will always influence eachother.
Posted by: vertebrae8 | September 27, 2010 10:41 PM
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Not Racist.....
Not Violent.....
Just NOT silent anymore.
That about sums up the Tea Party Movement
Posted by: UpperPerkConcernedCitizen | September 27, 2010 10:28 PM
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Secular
The President (W or Obama) does not create or levy taxes. Congress does. How long has Congress been under the control of the Democrats? Before “O” came on the scene.
Our dilemma with Mr. Obama is not his color. It is his policies. Birther? Why is the majority of Mr. Obama’s life clouded in mystery? Not just his birth certificate (long form?), but his passport, his educational records, his entire life until he showed up on the scene as an SEIU player. If you have much to hide, you hide much.
Posted by: BudParker | September 27, 2010 10:28 PM
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Secret (opposite REVEALation):
The Reason for "Sodom n Gomorrah" is, ironicalty True (opposite MYTH). WHY?
Because, "Non-Straight"s, aka Gays (Sorry Parents) is that they are an "ARMY"! An Army Of Vile Human(s)! NOt like US straight HUUMATE(s)!
If ye/Yo Believe in Scripture, or some of the Truths therein, Then Ye/Yo Will Believe US EKLAH-t-iON's (zero OFF's), whom com'th to Save Ye/Yo's, justly fo a time via Holyi TiME! Behold: The REFRESHING!
Soo, If Ye/Yo con't see what WE[i] See'th or Warn'th, Then Death to yo/YE all [Pre-Apocalyptic-OFFs] MEMETiCs (Posterity)! Not US (Apocalyptic On's) on/of S.pace-S.hip Earth!!
Posted by: woodstock-41 | September 27, 2010 10:22 PM
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The Tea Party, is nothing more or less, then the American people, saying their tired of the mess in Washington, and want to take their country back.
Posted by: MrCool1 | September 27, 2010 10:13 PM
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TO: Daniel HEiMBACH {Blocker of Posts] ; On; "WHY DADT must Stay" (09.27.10):
Dear Bredren, Brother, Bright.. (Note: Huggs n a Kiss's To all da Sistrens, Sisters, SisStars.. too):
AMAZiNG, NO GRACE! iNteresting!
A little bit of a tangent. "DADT" intent/purpose is fo Non-Straights NOt to Advertise 'openly' their Sexual Preferences or Sexual Orientations [Similar] in Military or else where, aye!?
So, Earlier on On 'onfaith' {the Greatest Blog On Earth, ya ya] that Mr. Gustav Niebuhr wrote, entitled,; "DADT [Gays] & Church [of England], r Ahead of the Politico/a [U.S.] (similar said.Soo
i[WE] Eklaht-i-ON's or Apocalyptic-ON's (not Apocalyptic-Offs), or simply HUUMATE(s) of S.S. Earth argue THAT
WE[i] Huumates (NOt Humans) or APOCALYPTARiANS (Not PRE-Apocalyptarians) If it becomes O.K. to Openly for None-Straights Advertise ones SEXual Desires, on a Same Sex Basis: that, THEN The Military should make a special Rule/Provision for OPENLY ANTi-Xristians, Anti-Ju's, Anyi-Mormons, Anti-Ishlami's, Anti-Hindus/Seiks/Jains & Anti Buddhist folk in da Military! Note: SEX IS NOt LOVE: KLiFE IS! Soo then,
Think of a Don't Ask Don't Speak-out Against Pre-Apocalyptic Human's and their Religio-Preferences or Religious-Orientations question, aye!!??
Example: If I told Me Captain, Adjadent, Seargant, Generla etc.. that "i Dislike JU's, or Dislike Xrstians, or Hate Muslims. or any raggggg-hheads..lala O-P-E-N-L-Y, then what will ye yo Do to i[WE] US????
So, under the "EQUAL PROTECTiON" of our Holyi U.S. CONSTITUTION (born/made via Miracle: a Holy Holy Truth) that if Ye Yo's allow da Gay to Be OPEN about SEX (prefrences/Orientation) THEN WE[i] Eklahtions, aka Apocalyptarian Nationals sahould be Able to Be Open about OUR "Religious" Prefrences/ or Orientaions. aye Boss!????
Bottom Line: VOTE: Do-Not, i[WE[ repeat, NO-Repeal DADT et al!!!!!
Secret (opposite Revealation): Foreign Agents can Compromise and infiltrate the Pentagon et al institutions;
2nd Secret: Fact: Those folks behind Exposing The Classified Military Documents/pages recently of the U.S. War Effort (a great Embarrassment & Danger to our Coalitions straught-Guys & straight Gals [Bless them] was and is spread'd via GAYS! GAYS! within da Military!!!! via Non-Straights!@ aka Commy Finkle Fagarino's!! O' QUEEEERS! TROUBLE MAKERS! Pleazza, Better Suckk on Lolli-Poppis! Oye! Oye!
So: GAY to GAY "HONEY-TRAPS" {for Espionage Activities etc.. via none-Straights is a THREAT To U.S. (includes Other Nations) NATIiONAL SECURITY+!}
VOTE: NO Repeal "DADT". DO-Not Fix What-is NOt-Broken Generals, Congress, Mr. Prez et al!!! Else
Shoot oneself [U.S.w/out shooting a Shot" [Similar]. So, Gay-Scare + Ishlami-Scare Spread is REAL! And GAY-PHOBIA & ISHLAMi PHOBIA; is O.K. to Experience. aka Right Thinking!! Never let any one Fool Ye, or make ye/yo as if Guilty Mind! O' Satanic VersUS QUUEER CHURCH & CO.!
Posted by: woodstock-41 | September 27, 2010 10:08 PM
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What is the Tea Party? Is it a recession-era version of the religious right? Is it something else? From article.
Reply;
the original tea party had to do with taxation without representation; King of England.
Now we have a new Tea Party to protect us from well not a new King but similar and not exactly taxation; but bills that must be passed so you can found out what is in them?! . . .
Posted by: Montana_Miles | September 27, 2010 10:03 PM
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@eezmamata @WrongDog and a few others.
The last time I was educated in the history of the creation of The USA I distinctly recall that Christian values and morals were clearly articulated and incorporated into the founding documents. America is a nation for all people of any religion or no religion at all. However, that does not change our founding principles.
The Tea Party is a Conservative movement that recognizes the Christian background as being morally desirable over no morals at all.
Posted by: BudParker | September 27, 2010 10:00 PM
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I am a committed Christian and a social conservative. I find that most of the politicians whose values I share are also. It is often Christians who do things like feed the hungry, support the family, and reach out to those here and abroad who are hurting.
We do not seek to control others with our beliefs. We invite them to share them, yes, but we do not force the issue or deny them the right to disagree. We threaten no one with Hell - we do not have that power. The final destination of each soul is determined by God, who alone knows the human heart.
Posted by: patrioticwoman22 | September 27, 2010 9:55 PM
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I have been to several Tea Party functions and can reassure all Americans that we are just one of you and like you we are tired of the old political machines of both parties. The torch has been passed again to a new generation of Americans.
Posted by: kevinboyercounselor | September 27, 2010 9:53 PM
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I support the Tea Party for one reason. We have a Two Party System that has caused a monumental problem in America. Charlie Reese said it well in his article “545 PEOPLE.” (Google it). In part he says,…
“…Have you ever wondered if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
Have you ever wondered if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?
You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.
You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country…”
We continue to empower either Democrats or Republicans, back and forth, while America continues toward a goal that the average American finds offensive; if they can even comprehend what it is. Tick, tock. Blue, Red. We vote, they laugh behind our backs. If you want to keep on getting what you’ve been getting; just keep on doing what you’ve been doing.
The Tea Party has values and ideals I believe are right for America.
Posted by: BudParker | September 27, 2010 9:47 PM
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It is a shame that people are so misinformed on issues due to how the mainstream media portrays stories (controls what is news and purposely omits news if it does not fit the liberal agenda). This "controlled news" affects all aspects of people's lives and also explains why Tea Party members, conservatives, Christians, and Israel, as just a few examples, are misunderstood and often times hated. The Democrats and the mainstream media in this country work together to promote a common (and destructive) agenda.
Posted by: ThankaVeteran2day | September 27, 2010 9:37 PM
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saying that they overlap but are separate is good enough for me. I will give you that if you cede that they overlap but are inseperable. Saying they are overlapping but separate is like saying philosophy is overlapping but separate from science. They are inseperable and will always influence eachother.
Posted by: vertebrae8 | September 27, 2010 9:21 PM
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Chuck, you can't start to tell me about "our rights" and "secular law" without first telling me why or where law and rights come from. There is no secular reason for one to move to adopt either laws or rights other than brute force, which hardly qualifies as "reason" or foundational jurisprudence. You can't tell me where one person begins and another ends without resorting to more and more moralist footwork. Secularly speaking, one person does not begin or end, we are all just repeatedly recycled cosmic dust. You want to argue from that position, so be it, more respect from me than people claiming to "keep your laws off my body" as they seek to pass more and more laws to govern the ought and the ought not as they see it.
Christ does not call us to conversion by the sword, but he does call us to obedience and honor. In a representative republic theists have evry right to seek legislation or office as do humanists.
Posted by: vertebrae8 | September 27, 2010 8:51 PM
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The American people better wake up or there
will be no America to worry about. I back the
tea party.
Posted by: georgecrain75 | September 27, 2010 8:45 PM
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"Call us tea partiers, radical right-wingers, Republicans, fundamentalists, Libertarians, or Independents.
On November 2nd, you'll be calling most of us winners."
What a humble statement, I'm sure conceit is one of Jesus' most taught virtues.
Posted by: buffalophil | September 27, 2010 8:21 PM
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vertebrae8,
You are wrong about secular law. The ideal of civil (secular) law is that your rights end where mine begin. There is overlap between moral law and civil law but they are not the same. This overlap has lead many to believe that they are, or should be, one and the same.
Christ did not advocate forcing values on people unless they overstepped their boundaries, as in the money changers in the Temple. He wants us to choose to obey, as conversion by force is meaningless. Force is appropriate when your rights are violated,but should be strictly limited in other areas.
Posted by: charlesnewman1 | September 27, 2010 8:02 PM
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In a nutshell, pun intended, the Tea Party represents the importance of improving public education in the U.S.
Posted by: buffalophil | September 27, 2010 7:45 PM
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I'm an American by choice. And seeing the American Dream being taking away ,I say is time to tell the politician in Washington that is not acceptable. I don't think the President understand what America is all about.
Posted by: karmanandujar | September 27, 2010 7:43 PM
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Dixiedewberry,
“endowed by their Creator” is from the Declaration of Independance,not the Constitution. This error detracts from an otherwise well written comment.
Posted by: charlesnewman1 | September 27, 2010 7:31 PM
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Social conservative or Tea Bagger, isn't it the same really. It would be like asking are they crazy or insane. Angry white people. Many of whom just want their country back from...whatever or whoever. These are the 25 percenters. Why do we give them any attention. Sekulow is one of them.
Remember, the only divorce rate higher than that of Republican politicians is the rate at which "Modern Conservatives" have divorced themselves from reality.
Posted by: buffalophil | September 27, 2010 7:30 PM
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I have found this discussion most interesting.
I just wanted to add something in response to those people who have been arguing about when America went bad or off track morally. I have often wondered why there is so much argument about that. It's more important to understand what is right and true now than to dwell heavily on the past. Judging by what I read in the Old Testament especially, it seems like it is very hard to say this is the worst time in history compared with many others. Yet I would agree with many others here in saying that from what I can tell, there is significant and pervasive moral decay in the US.
Each of us should examine ourselves before a standard. Christians choose the Bible because we believe it is the truth. Where do you get you moral code from? Do you have one? Are you aware of what it is? If you even have the slightest suspicion that there is a just and perfect God, then how do you know that you will stand up to his scrutiny? Christians don't talk about morality because we live it well. We don't talk about it because that is why we are going to Heaven. The only chance we have is Jesus Christ, and we are so very grateful. Morality in the context of human imperfection is worth focusing on and fighting for because it points back to a good and perfect God. We just love to be reminded of who He is, and we want others to be reminded too. We also want to be convicted of any participation we have in sins whether they be more personal (e.g. lying, pride) or more social (e.g. ignoring the poor, becoming well off by oppressing others).
I still don't know how this all fits in with government exactly because Christians don't trust that government, even the best of governments is going to save the world. Only Jesus will do that. I pray that God will work to reveal himself to men and women through imperfect government just as He does in every imperfect human institution (including the Church).
Posted by: thanesville | September 27, 2010 7:28 PM
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I'll tell you why they can't figure us out: it's because we have values and are not moral relativists. We actually stand for something, whereas most modern people are willy nilly all things are permissible nothing is taboo brainwashed fools. We are not afraid to judge something as wrong and believe in truth, they believe that there is no truth or we all make up our own truth. Theirs is a useless philosophy of death and self destruction. Ours is the philosophy of humanity and strength.
I dabbled with the Libertarian movement for a while and concluded that too many are godless fools, more pathetic than the liberals, libertarians who use the same means to achieve their ends: Government Fiat.
ALL LAWS ARE CODIFIED MORALS, BASED ON SUPERNATURAL BELIEFS, SEEKING TO BE IMPOSED ON OTHERS WHO MAY NOT BELIEVE THE SAME AS YOU.
There is no such thing as "secular laws." Right and wrong cannot be naturally accounted for by science or reason, it is only though a Creator which grants them as inalienable rights our "reason" can come close to providing a firm basis on which to ethically stand.
The libertarians are failures on their own, they need to embrace what created this country: Self Government Permittted Only Because We Are A Just And Moral People Submitted To The Laws Of Nature And Nature's God!
Posted by: vertebrae8 | September 27, 2010 7:23 PM
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Taking back America is good. Supporting Israel is not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc77RzGRdIw
Posted by: RedFeather | September 27, 2010 7:00 PM
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As an original member of the "tea party", I'd like to express my chagrin with those who have "organized and founded" a movement. Of course, there is strength in numbers, consequently, I am thankful to those individuals who have shown the tenacity, perseverance, and determination necessary to bring structure to our discontent.
As for me, I'm an everyday, average citizen, who is horrified at the overwhelming arrogance and power-mongering demonstrated by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and President Barack Obama. However, President Obama is the most out of control President in history. He ignores "we the people". He thumbs his nose at any effort to check or thwart his undermining of our individual rights and the laws on which this country was founded. I personally believe that he smiles at those who think they are going to use those laws to block his huge power grab. By growing the executive branch in unbelievable proportions through his appointment of czars through the use of executive order, wholesale subversion of the very laws under which America exits, and his total abhorrence of individual rights he demonstrates his contempt. He has an agenda, but it bears no “goodwill” for the America we know and love. The very idea of “liberty and justice for all” is an alien thought to his determination to dominate, subjugate, and control the American people. This President has no integrity, no honor, and no sense of vision to the American Dream. He has proven this over and over again through his lies (say one thing and do another), his dismissal of our laws when it is convenient, his complete disregard for our flag, our history, states rights, or the “endowed by their Creator” he so brazenly left out of the first line of the Constitution. He openly disgraces us in relations with the dignitaries of other nations, dismissing our sovereignty with a bow, openly insults our allies, and sniffs at afflictions, persecutions, and murders committed by our neighbor on the southern border. Those of my family and friends, who voted for him as an instrument of change, are embarrassed, discouraged, and disgusted.
Therefore, “we the people”, the sleeping giant, have awakened to rescue our nation and our posterity from the clutches of a would be “savior”, who has no idea who we are.
Posted by: dixiedewberry | September 27, 2010 6:20 PM
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Haven't you heard? We are haters. We are racists. We spit on congressmen and call them names. We are uneducated, unsophisticated gap-toothed throwbacks. We are nazis. We are un-American. We are dangerous... Just ask Ms Pelossi. I'm sure we'll get the truth from her. Nov 2!
Posted by: Luke1710 | September 27, 2010 6:10 PM
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The TEA PARTY is not a religious movement. Some of the participants may be strong Christians or other religions, others are not religious. Some may be Republicans, others are not. Because people have values they live their lives by does not make the entire group a "religious group."
I am a grandmother, I have not been openly involved in any kind of politics until this past presidential election. I participate with the TEA PARTY because we are tired of government taking over our lives. That does not make us a religious movement. We are tired of Washington not listening to the voters - those of us who work at least 40 hours a week, pay our taxes, pay our bills, support our charities, etc. The TEA PARTY is the voice of the everyday American citizen. Those who don't have values, those who love Washington to run their lives and tell them what they can and cannot do, those who don't work but expect everything to be given to them, those who have no interest in the Constitution and how our country was meant to work -- those are the ANTI- Tea Party folks.
Posted by: jsmyrl | September 27, 2010 6:07 PM
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Nice work Jordan! Again you manage to hit the proverbial nail on the head.
Posted by: StandUpGuy | September 27, 2010 5:59 PM
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I don't think the main street media has a clue to what the Tea Party represents.
They have called it everything but what it really is. It is the conservatives in America --calling out the radicals in the Government to stop the agenda that the new President has started to implyment. This is Democrates and Republicans---they are both to blame--- and we are tired of it.
If you call yourself Patriotic--- they label you a bigot. I am very Patriotic,
I believe in one God, One Jesus as Lord, One Holy Spirit. One Country --We are making a differance--
We need to bring our America back to the constitution from where it all begin.
Bring back our Values-- bring back people
being responsible for their actions.
Conservative or Tea Partiers--I'm proud to be both.And we are united together-- and we don't need or want an official in office,we need ordinary people in America who love America as we do--- to represent us.
Posted by: judymathes | September 27, 2010 5:28 PM
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Hersheylover, real love would be a Supreme Being without an ego problem.
Anyway, say the Bible is correct. Ending up in Heaven rather than Hell is equivalent to the lesser of two evils.
The BEST option, if achievable, would be NEITHER. In other words, when one dies, that's it. No more.
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 5:22 PM
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In this article and the follow up comments I am hearing a lot about “radical right-wingers, Republicans, fundamentalists, Libertarians, or Independents.” What the “Tea Party” is, it’s the “silent majority” of the past finding its voice. When one speaks of the “Sleeping Giant” we are the GIANT. The “Silent Majority” will be silent no more! We will let our thoughts and voices be herd no matter who likes. We know what is right and what is wrong and we will choose the right path for this country no matter what. "Political Correctness” is for those who would be silenced by the pushy, condescending, manipulative, never satisfied, self-serving minority who don’t what to hear what anyone else has to say. The old standard of “Shout them Down” won’t work because, as I have said, we are the “Majority”. We have been (pastense) patient, friendly, cooperative, pleasant, benign, supportive and understanding. If the plan is to use these strengths against us it’s not going to work because most of all we are intelligent and intuitive, we have “been there and done that”. As for most of us living in the real world where you don’t spend more than you make (we even try to save some), to tell the truth is a virtue and you share your religious beliefs with others as a means of communicating your moral philosophy with them in a cool calm and non-judgmental manner. In closing let me say this, if you don’t believe in the “Tea Party” just wait until November second and you will get the message!!!
Oh yes “Have a Nice Day”.
Posted by: jeffkrotts | September 27, 2010 5:13 PM
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NorthDallasForty:
Teaching Bible in school has nothing to do with fear and intimidation, but rather about Gods love and mercy. if you as a loving father sees your child about to burn himself on an extremely hot burner how do you express love. by letting him burn the fool out of his little hand or popping his little hand and explaining to him it is hot and will hurt him. Certainly more then a little pop on the hand. But man in his infinte wisdom seems to know better than God who Created ALL THINGS, is certainly smarter than we are. So much more it is uncomprehendable to out human mind. But God loved us so much that He sent His only begotten Son to stand in our place and take the penalty of death in His own body for our sakes and our good. That my friend is real LOVE.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 5:00 PM
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Bedrockrevival, Roe v. Wade was never "passed". It was a Supreme court decision (actually decided twice, 1971 & 1973). Now, was it the SCOTUS school prayer decision in 1962 or Roe v. Wade in 1973 responsible for not staying the impending Judgment? Some Tea Partiers might say it was in the 1950's (Brown v. Board of Education).
But, nevertheless, why are so many Christians concerned about staying off the impending Judgment anyway? Don't they want to get to Heaven sooner? Or, do they want to make more money and bang more Bibles on earth first?
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 4:56 PM
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My commit is real simple, it’s to late! We are at the end of the age. There is no reversing the course we are on. Or at least through the agency of man, the only solution is found in 2nd Chronicles 7:14. The motives for the Tea Party movement are for our blessing where it needs to be for His Honor. Then He might stay the coming judgment.
If you were working in the spirit ream and desiring to Honor God there might be a chance of staying the coming judgment. But at this time any opportunity to stop it or slow it has ended. Things should have started back when Roe v. Wade was passed but now we’re done.
Also, to those on the other side that’s complaining about the religious community “Christians” impeding on the rights you think you have, that will be dealt with too. Because when “Jesus Rocks Heads will Roll”. This has nothing to do with religion, but all to do with justice and His Righteousness’.
Posted by: BedRockRevival | September 27, 2010 4:46 PM
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Hersheylover, when you went to school those actions were known as "fear" and intimidation". It was hardly being taught respect for authority. It's the same mentality as beating someone over the head with the Bible, and if they don't acknowledge you, they are threatened with Hell.
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 4:46 PM
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007pilot, many of the Tea Party candidates are just as bad as ideologues to the right as you contend Obama is.
And, the U.S. hatred for Cuba in the form of an embargo has taken its toll on that country. But, who cares if the children have suffered there for decades, they are only pawns for the Birchers?
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 4:43 PM
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[quote] NorthDallasForty'
Hersheylover, attending school is mandatory until a certain age. There are public, private, charter and religious schools. Public schools are there so every child can obtain an education. The purpose is to educate, not indoctrinate. No child is going to be better at math or English if he or she prays or doesn't pray.
Mandatory "Christianity" is NOT freedom. In fact, mandating it cheapens it.[quote]
I hate to tell you this but you can either teach Christianity = God as a religion or Secular Humanism = man which is what is being taught now. Either way they are religion. One is man centered and the other is God centered. I choose to believe God knows just a tad more than we as humans.
I went to public schools myself and the Bible was read from every single day and the pledge was said every single day and there was respect for all Authority. And if you think for one second what they are doing today is educate then you need to step away from the koolaid they have been force feeding you and try and think on your own.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 4:40 PM
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There was a time in this country when a handshake was a person's "word,"or agreement. Today distrust has taken the place of honesty. Why do you think that is?
Those of you who don't believe in Christianity, what DO you believe in? The Jews were given a law to follow. Eventually, Christ gave His life to fulfill that law. Christians are to love God with all their heart and their neighbors as themselves. What is hateful about that?
In this country, everyone is free to worship in whatever way they choose...Jews, Hindus, Buddists, Muslims, Satan worshipers, and Christians, etc.. Why is it that only Christians are considered dangerous and hateful enough to have laws enacted against them to limit their freedoms, while others are allowed to steal crosses, or to protest at funerals? Could it be fear? I don't think any of you would like similar things to happen to you.
Don't let people try to convince you of anything without taking the time to reference it and see if it is factual. Research both sides of ANY controversy. I love my country, and I love God!
Posted by: mosefus | September 27, 2010 4:39 PM
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As Thomas Jefferson stated:
A Government big enough to supply you with everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have.
History has a way of repeating itself and if the American people do not stand for what they believe to be constitutional..we will just become a Godless and communist country. It will slowly happen and when we realize what is happening to us..it's too late. We dont want that for our children and grandchildren. Wake up and stand together..there is power in masses and we as Americans should keep our government accountable for their actions. I know I will be at the polls in November to do my part.I personally feel that if enough of us speak (through voting) we will get our point across and the government will have no alternative but to hear us.
Posted by: janasm | September 27, 2010 4:37 PM
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As Thomas Jefferson stated:
A Government big enough to supply you with everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have.
History has a way of repeating itself and if the American people do not stand for what they believe to be constitutional..we will just become a Godless and communist country. It will slowly happen and when we realize what is happening to us..it's too late. We dont want that for our children and grandchildren. Wake up and stand together..there is power in masses and we as Americans should keep our government accountable for their actions. I know I will be at the polls in November to do my part.I personally feel that if enough of us speak (through voting) we will get our point across and the government will have no alternative but to hear us. BTW: I support the Tea Party Events. But of course, I am nobody..just a hard working American that believes in the Consitution and the foresight that our founding fathers had when composing the Consitution.
Posted by: janasm | September 27, 2010 4:35 PM
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Hersheylover, attending school is mandatory until a certain age. There are public, private, charter and religious schools. Public schools are there so every child can obtain an education. The purpose is to educate, not indoctrinate. No child is going to be better at math or English if he or she prays or doesn't pray.
Mandatory "Christianity" is NOT freedom. In fact, mandating it cheapens it.
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 4:32 PM
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Jordan Sekulow, Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ are well respected for their essential legal work and words of wisdom. 99% of those feeling the need to spew their hatred and show their ignorance of issues, and history as commentary on Jordan’s article need to hit the reset button and take off the “progressive” socialist blinders.
Do you poor miserable commenters really want to go through decades of “ no freedom, re-education,, hyperinflation, poverty, lack of healthcare (believe it or not Mr. Moore is so off on the state of healthcare in the US vs Cuba).
Physicians without medical supplies must be dependant on U.S. humanitarian efforts to function. The only "good healthcare in Cuba is reserved for Castro and company plus a few wealthy Euro-tourists.
Unbelievably, private citizens cannot raise a cow for their families use in Fidel’s Cuba. This is communism in final death throes. Any of you want this for our Nation?
For those not aware of Cuba’s current state and the changes Fidel and comrades are now having to take in hopeful corrections for their miserable failed communism and country.
Watch Fox News Channel and get an education.
For those of you that bought into the “change “platform of our grand pretender, that is what is headed your way if “We the People” (the Tea Party for those unaware of reality) do not succeed in November.
The TEA PARTY is not something that can be identified as any particular group other than the people that are going to save this Nation from the likes of a communist and his stealth revolutionaries occupying the “Whitehouse” currently known as the “house of RED” and his comrade ideologues in charge of various federal agencies.
Only a complete fool would align himself or herself with this radical ideologue pretending to be our President.
Posted by: 007pilot | September 27, 2010 4:27 PM
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[quote] NorthDallasForty
Hersheylover, then by the same token, kids killing kids in school is a heart problem not a religious problem. You can't have it both ways. Many of those priests are young and went to Catholic schools where there WAS prayer. Also, your example about valedictory prayer is different than school prayer. ANY child can pray in school--they just can't disrupt class. However, it really is about making MY kid pray in an organized setting, isn't it? Can't yours pray by himself or gather with his friends between and after classes?
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It is indeed a heart problem as well but we have been telling them a lie or half truth in that you can teach the theory of evolution ( religion ) as fact but you can not teach or read a Bible as anything, fact fiction or other. You take God out of the equation and you create a vacuum, unable to be filled by humanistic thought or actions. You also do not become a Saint just by becoming a Christian, some make grave mistakes ans pay the consequences of their errors too. Being a Christian doesn't make you perfect, just forgiven. We here in America have also watered down the Word of God to say and mean whatever we think it should say and not what it actually says and means. Alot of Christians today are being taught that God is only a God of Love and not of correction and rebuke and wrath. Sorry Charlie they must be reading a different Bible than I read. We are currently seeing Gods judgement on America for turning her back on Him Nationally. All these natural disasters are Gods reminder that He who sits in the heavens laughs and He will hold them in derision. He causes the winds to blow and fire and hail obey His will.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 4:24 PM
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Hersheylover, now about the valedictory address. I have no problem with a Valedictorian saying how his or her faith was instrumental in achieving that honor. The Valedictorian earned that right to give the address, right? By the same token, if a female Valedictorian in her address expressed thanks that she was allowed to continue her education without interruption due to an abortion, she should also have that right. However, many of the Christian parents would scream about that, wouldn't they?
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 4:14 PM
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The Tea Partiers are many things to many people and media sources. They are not angry because of the recession or incumbents per say. There anger has been building up for decades and has finally come out. Instead of being the silent majority they are now vocal about wanting the best for America, their children and grandchildren.
They stand for Less goverment spending, less intrusive goverment, lower taxes, less entitlements that is strangling our economy, for more accountablity by their representives and politicians. They stand for a sovereign America and not to be policed to by the UN or any other international group applying their standards of morality and values.
Tea Partiers stand for Christian Values and Morality back in our laws and policies. Christian values such as honesty, genuine concern and caring for people, for hard work and for law abiding citizens, religious freedom for any group that is not harmful to society, not religous control or a Theocracy.
Individuals that do not believe in Christian values can live their life as they please, so long that it does break laws or prove harmful to society. They are always claiming that Christians want to impopse Christian belief's on them, but they are the ones who want to promote their lifestyle on the rest of America, especially to our children
through our educational system.
Tea Partiers also stand for a strong defense and allowing the commanders in the field to make decisions in battles, not politicans that have no military experience. Especially those that based their decisions soley on politically correctness, and/or biasness against our only ally and the only democracy the middle east.
They stand for We the People, the Constitution, including the 2nd amendment. They stand for personal responsibility. They do not believe in forcibly taking from the rich more that their share and giving it to those who do not want to work. They believe in helping the poor and the sickly not the lazy.
Fianlly, they believe in helping small and large buisness's by cutting taxes giving tax credits for hiring and suppling health insurance. I could go on and on, but these are some of the basic ideas from the Tea Party Movement.
Posted by: gomez6158 | September 27, 2010 4:06 PM
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Hersheylover, then by the same token, kids killing kids in school is a heart problem not a religious problem. You can't have it both ways. Many of those priests are young and went to Catholic schools where there WAS prayer. Also, your example about valedictory prayer is different than school prayer. ANY child can pray in school--they just can't disrupt class. However, it really is about making MY kid pray in an organized setting, isn't it? Can't yours pray by himself or gather with his friends between and after classes?
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 4:02 PM
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NorthDallasForty: There is no correlation between the removal of prayer and the lack of self control on the Priests or any others part. It is a heart problem not a religious problem. there is not the ability to pray freely in the public school setting either. Try doing so as a Valdictorian at a graduation and see what happens. That is an individual at a public function but it is censored for sure.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 3:52 PM
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wwdj66, there is prayer in school now. But, there is noto be be FORCED prayer. Why do some people believe that unless there is a spectacle made, it isn't as valid? Pray before class, pray after class, just don't disrupt class. And don't expect the state to sponsor your prayer.
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 3:44 PM
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Hersheylover, any correlation is only an assumption and/or theory. And, is removal of forced school prayer what caused hundreds of priests to molest children? I never said I wanted to remove God (or religion) from society. However, there is something mentally unbalanced about individuals wanting the forcing of faith on others, either through browbeating or legislation. Neither faith or religion ensures an outcome of "righteousness".
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 3:40 PM
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the life long politicians are the problem they can no longer see or hear the people and voices of the American people. They want one law for them and another for US.. The tea party is about what most government officials have forgot about. That we do have A Constitution and a Bill of Right and believe in Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness ant they are patriotic American, who want a moral & honest government, and smaller and more involved with a Free market place. Not a government who wants to control us in every way and choice we make.
Posted by: weathermaker | September 27, 2010 3:34 PM
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I see many comments from muslems. I just completed reading a book by a noted muslem scolar that states that the pagan moon god was allah and that it is what muhammid was familiar with in the 6th century and that is what he derived islam from, complete with sixth century views and doccumentation. It was very interesting to learn why the muslems do not question muhammid because he contradicts himself often.
Posted by: wwdj66 | September 27, 2010 3:23 PM
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NorthDallasForty :
I understand the take the log out of your own eye before inspecting the sliver in your Brothers eye principle, but I would rather live under a Godly society than a godless one. You are seeimg the effects of the later now. You remove God from all equations of Society and you end up with murder in our schools zero respect for any Authority, increase in crime, as you mentioned porn and all other perversions as well. What I am saying is we do need God back in America again. Nowhere in the Constitution is the phrase seperation of Church and State. That is adlibed by the likes of the ACLU and such. Try reading the document it might surprize you.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 3:20 PM
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Like I've said from the beginning. We need a complete overhaul in congress , both parties most likely. Cronism, corruption,and anticonstitutional agenda has to go. The tea party is about that, and nothing more.
Politics is to the constitution , what religiousity is to God. It is the method by which people attempt to define the entity. And so as politics wages the war on humanity in a effort to define and control, via its ideals, it instead perpetually distorts as it moves toward self destruction. Likewise an effort to understand and define God , serves to confuse,because it enables a lethal downturn in understanding as well. Why? Not because either can't be defined by clear and common perspective, but because the method's are so flawed. There is no finding the truth in politics or religion, because both spawn their ideals from methods which contorts the truth , rather than serves to find the truth.
I'm starting by voting ALL incumbants out. The message is clear. If you are "a good guy" ,but are too impotent to alter the situation, then you too ,are a bad guy. Sorry.
Congress needs that clear message. And the need to understand that; WE the people are for the people , and not for the congress. We expect the country to be run according to the constitution, and be free to comply with all amendments.
Nothing but a threat of office will get the attention of congress/politicians/truth distorters/antitruth seekers/game players/ manipulators/greed seekers/bigots/ big business puppets/ or,those with- the gove't must run all, mentality.
I'd rather start with a clean slate. How about you?
Posted by: blabit | September 27, 2010 3:16 PM
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I'm a socially conservative liberal.
While I support traditional values such as real marriage over heterosexual/homosexual doggie licenses...
I cannot support the evils that Israel gets away with.
I cannot support a fascist policy that persecutees the poor.
I cannot support either the idolatry of putting the economy above God/education or the sorcery of legal drug addiction supported by conservatives.
In short I cannot support the policies that separate liberals and minorities from God/education or inner cities infested with illegal drugs and organized crime.
Republican policies allow for the erosion of America's collective sanity so I hold my nose and vote Democratic in hopes that there will one day when conservatives reject organized crime as much as the murder of the unborn.
America is under the influence of many years of an unholy Eucharist. This is the reason for the decline. Nobody wants to be aware. Everyone wants to glide on the spiritual work of many ancestors.
Therefore I cannot vote Republican.
Posted by: richard_chasen | September 27, 2010 3:15 PM
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The Tea Party is the conservitive Americans that are tired of getting our freedoms chipped away slowly by the greedy power hungry people who say they represent us. We have realized through their actions in the last crongress that the change they wanted was our submissivness and a chance to take away more of our freedoms. They are not all democrat nor are they all republican nor are they progressives; they are the ones who have found that if they can control government they can control us. This is America and if you are not an American through and through you are not wanted here. When you live off the system and break our laws you are not an American. If you come to the United States leagally and assimilate into our society you are welcome. This politically correct thingy that someone came up with has become a feastering sore and when GOD is taken out of our schools we get Collumbine. We are a Christian nation of which 85% are Christian therefore it makes no sense why we cannot have prayer in school because if we can't I'm offended because 1% filed suit and the courts failed us, they caved not to the law but to polittically correct. That is wrong and that is what the Tea Party is all about. We are Americans fighting for our Constitution not to be trampled on and not for our religeous freedom to be trampled on by the government or any other religeon.
Posted by: wwdj66 | September 27, 2010 3:08 PM
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HaasNonam, your assumption about the President being a Christian is faulty.
Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that:
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
And, not all Christians regard Sunday as the Sabbath, e.g., Seventh Day Adventists.
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 3:02 PM
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Jordan's statement:
"As social conservatives, we are ecstatic about the growth and influence of the Tea Party movement. Many of us felt like we were tolerated and courted by the establishment GOP but never truly belonged. Now, we have arrived."
is somewhat humorous.
The Moral Majority in 1979-1980 caused Reagan to move much more to the right. It actually thought Reagan was too liberal. He complied. And, look at today's GOP platform, loaded with social conservative agendas.
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 2:55 PM
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To be a Tea Party member at heart, you don't have to be a Christian, but only a Constitutionalist. However, the Constitution itself assumes that the President will be a Christian. In Article 1, Section 7, the President is given ten days to consider a veto, not including Sunday. The holy day for Jews is Saturday; Friday for Muslims. Atheists & agnostics have no particular Sabbath. The only day set aside for them is April 1 (Ps 53:1). All state constitutions, early proclamations going back to the Mayflower Compact, the Dec'l of Independence, etc. clearly prove that our Founding Fathers intended for this nation to be and remain a Christian one. - Haas
Posted by: HaasNonam | September 27, 2010 2:55 PM
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As a supporter of the Tea Party and a Veteran, I want all "ruling-class-politicians to understand that you are slowly but surely being replaced. We don't care if there's a (D) or an (R) behind your name. The corruption in our government has to stop!! You had better be true to the Constitution and honest with the people you work for or you will be fired!! Just about everyone in America knows what has to be done to reform government. If you have been siting in Washington D.C. for any extended period, you are part of the problem. You better become part of the solution!
Posted by: usnvet91 | September 27, 2010 2:52 PM
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The Constitution protects the free exercise of religion, whether it be protestant, catholic, mormon, islam, or atheism. You don't think atheism is a religion? Let's examine it: it has a philosophy of the origin (Big Bang, evolution), a concept of morality (inherent genetically), and a purpose (leave me alone). It has a demand for exclusivity, in which it demands that all who believe in the one true God cease and desist such claims, and many of its adherents are fanatical in their insistence on freedom from hearing of any other claim to truth. They insist that their sensitivities are so offended, and so much more important than the rest of us, that we who believe in God must be silenced. Sound familiar? Oh yeah, that's a lot like Islam. Hmm...
Note that the Declaration of Independence declares our rights are granted by the Creator (that would be God, for those who are missing the point--in those days, God was rarely referred to by name outside church), and the Constitution simply restricts establishing any one particular way of worshipping God. The currently popular mantra of "freedom from religion" has been recently invented, and is not found anywhere in the constitution. Certainly atheists have the right not to worship my God, but they have no more right to restrict my speaking or writing of God than I have to restrict their speech.
Posted by: Horsesense | September 27, 2010 2:28 PM
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Hersheylover, but those are not societal issues. Let God deal with adultery, keeping the Sabbath, etc. Why the obsession with making those who don't believe the way you do to comply? That's my beef. And, by the way, when you speak of "perversities", did you know that CHRISTIANS dabble into porn just as much if not more than do non-Christians? In the words of a great bumper sticker I saw a few years back, "Dr. Dobson, focus on your own darn family and leave mine alone."
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 2:28 PM
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Tea Party is equivalent to Patriotic Americans who believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Tea Party Americans are loyal to Constitutional Laws which uphold liberty, accountability and responsibility. Tea Party citizens stand for fair tax laws, a government which represents the people and a free market which allows American citizens opportunity to prosper and opportunity to fail. Tea Party beliefs recognize that big government is a roadblock to individual freedom and free market policies which promote success and achievement for individuals who desire to work hard and take risks. Tea Party is inclusive of all American citizens, regardless of race or religion.
Posted by: truthbeknown2 | September 27, 2010 2:25 PM
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NorthDallasForty:
Oh trust me not keeping any or all of the Commandments is indeed a problem and the one about the Lords name. trust me, the Lord will not hold him guiltless whoever takes His name in vain. Adultry is also a serious problem in our land. look at all the perversities and family disfunction. That says it all.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 2:21 PM
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Standfirm, murder and stealing are wrong, and there is a consensus concerning those acts. But interpretation of other of the commandments can be the problem. Frankly, adultery is not society's issue, nor is taking the Lord's name in vain, nor is remembering the Sabbath Day (whatever day that is).
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 2:13 PM
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I am a women who stands with the tea party and all the moral pro- life, pro- Isreal others whom stand up for theses values....
God alone shall judge each heart and may I stand with confidence through The Lord Jesus Christ, That one day, yes one day We shall all see Him in His Glory...Until that day, I stand up in my convictions for the tea party to move across America and let the voices be heard...We are done with big goverment and all who want to destroy this God Given nation..I pray and will contiune to ask Him for his guidence and will in this as I stand proudly for the men and women in our military and Israel and the un born...Go Palin, you are our next Ester...I am Black
Posted by: doveindesert | September 27, 2010 2:13 PM
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It didn't take long for the country to realize the "change" Obama was referring to was not the "change" the country wanted. We all knew something had to be done and I believe the Tea Party movement was able to provide a platform where like-minded and like-faith individuals could unite to begin the process. While there is a lot of clean up needed in Washington and repairs to the years of damage with God's help "We the People" can unite to get it done. Thank you Tea Party organizers!
Posted by: marcies | September 27, 2010 2:11 PM
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I'm having a difficult time understanding why morality and such writings as The Ten Commandments would be so disturbing to some individuals Even if they weren't from the Bible how could they adversely affect anybody unless they "wanted" to kill and steal etc.? Try really thinking about this and see if you wouldn't rather have your children and grandchildren not killing each other in their schools and contacting deadly sexual disease from someone they don't even know. This isn't about getting our way,it's about life for our children and their children.For your own family's sake ask yourself "Why am I so filled with bitterness toward this?
Posted by: Standfirm | September 27, 2010 2:01 PM
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franklystated25, those aren't the goals of the Tea Party according to most in charge. And, you have NO business--Tea Party or otherwise--to put "God" into the personal lives of anyone unless they want you to. As far as the government goes, even the Constitution prohibits a religious test for office. What is it with people like you who want MANDATED "faith" or "religion"?
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 1:57 PM
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I applaud the efforts of the Tea Party! The desperate need for our country is to return to the priorities of the founding fathers: putting God first in government and in personal lives, respecting and protecting human life, loving others as self, and living sacrificially for the greater good. However, I will support Republican candidates if it comes down to dividing the conservative vote to benefit Democrats.
Posted by: franklystated25 | September 27, 2010 1:53 PM
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In this country, any religion is welcome. I don't have to like it but that is the freedom that makes our country so great. On that note, I am not a religious person. religion doesn't save. Jesus does.
Posted by: conservativeRN1 | September 27, 2010 1:44 PM
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While I am an independent voter, I support the majority of Americans who want to stay conservative. We have been silent too long. My vote this November will NOT go to encumbents or democrates, but rather those candidates who support my conservative values.
Posted by: ralvosika | September 27, 2010 1:44 PM
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aswtech: I don't know where you heard such nonsense but i can almost guarantee you it wasn't at a Tea party Rally. We sir stand up for you and for your right to be taken care of for your service to We The People and we thank you for it. That type of medical care is not what we want recinded but the kind that is freely given to those who don't earn it or work for it in the first place.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 1:43 PM
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As a medically retired and permanently and totally disabled veteran of the Vietnam era, my beef with the tea Party is their ignorant desire to eloiminate Social Security AND Veterans benefits that we EARNED! Because the VA Adjudication Staff, upon the recomnedation of the VE medical professionals rated me as "Permanently and Totally Disabled," I am unable to work and the Tea Party would take from my wife and me the only current source of income we have! As such, I would join the MAJORITY OF THE HOMELESS IN AMERICA--- Vietnam Era veterans! What this nonsensical party would propose is that without the medical care I require DAILY, I would within a month or less die an agonizing death because neither my family, nor I can afford the medical care I need as a result of my "service related" medical problems.
I volunteered during the summer before my senior year in high school, when Vietnam was getting hot. I did not run off to Canada or go AWOL. I, like many of my fellow veterans, honored my responsibility to defend the country into which I was born. I did not run out like some of my generation did, and this is how my country wants to "thank me" for obeying the law?
Posted by: aswtech | September 27, 2010 1:33 PM
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I am a registered Republican but I am so disgusted with good ole boy politics as usual in D.C. and I am therefore a conservative FIRST. I say go TEA PARTY and help conservative-minded folks cleanse the political process of that good-ole-boy mentality and for sure get the liberals OUT of D.C. and across the entire nation too, for that matter! Go, go Tea Party and right-on, "Post" piece, Jordan Sekulow!!!
Posted by: bjcsimms | September 27, 2010 1:30 PM
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From some of the comments I see regarding this article, the Godless, heartless, ignorant, school of Dewey's dead souls is bearing its rotten fruit. This nation, in its humanistic, arrogant march toward being so content with congratulating its human idols created in the glorification of flawed , fallen sick and scared men and women is reaping the dissolution of its very existence. Just like the father who left my family and the mother who wants to be paid back for raising me in cash; instead of teaching and adhering to the Law of God in the Old Testament which set in the hearts of the Elect, post Christ Jesus, in the New Testament, your parents, and mine taught us to try and make ourselves feel better about breaking faith with God by using the most shallow human logic and wisdom. Taught us to..... lie, cheat, win at any cost - and we sold our souls for cash. Taught us to fornicate and glory in the diseases, broken hearts and empty pleasure; even call it "empowering" for women. They taught us that we were beautiful!! ...as long as we looked like an emaciated famine victim or a steroid chiseled freak of nature. They taught us their was and is truth!....and it is whatever your pretty little ignorant head things it is! They taught us that there are ALL KINDS of ways to God and DO NOT be so arrogant as to say that Christ Jesus is the only Way to Relationship with God, because God would not be so cruel as to formulate a plan of Salvation for this Lost a depraved humanity by defeating through His Love for us the ONE THING that keeps us thinking these suicidal Godless thoughts and wreaks everything from murder, loveless sex, abuse of children, war to leaving the person you commit your life to because you "feel" like it, upon humanity...SIN. They taught us the Bible is a "storybook" with pretty myths, even though it contains the proclamation of all that is Life Eternal and that which happend to bring death and entropy, spoke of hydrology, astronomy, physical science, microbiology, civil engineering, and the selflessness that creates and maintains the character of a Society which lasts, unlike this USA we have drifted toward with the "government is god" man in the whitehouse espousing the mantra to only live for the almighty me, placing "self" on the throne of our lives instead of the One True "Parent" who would NEVER let us down...God Almighty. The reason you detest God the Father is because of the version of "father" which raised the last five generations. From abortion and babies that inconvenience men and women to the marriage carousel to women thinking that their "beauty" is in their starved bodies and souls (satan knows you cant think when your starving). Life without Jesus is a soda passed around to group of thirsty people, it tates good to them at first but as more drink it the appeal and the taste degrade they throw in the trash the last part with everyone's spit in it. Life with Jesus is an Everlasting Fountain of Spring Water... Living Water.
Posted by: mtnman2 | September 27, 2010 1:29 PM
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While I am not a tea party member, it is about time the American people took back their country. The people we elected to Washington do not support us: the Democrats & Obama support the non-citizens, the illegals (why did the Obama adm. filed a human rights violation with the United Nations against Arizona? Don't these people know that Arizona is in the United States and contain U.S. citizens as well as non=citizens, the illegals, which they are defending?) What is wrong with this picture?). And the liberals and Obama are supporting the muslims. This cannot go on any longer in this country.
Vote in November for the people who will do what the majority of legal Americans want done. Right now we have practically no voice in Washington.
Posted by: libertymeanslife | September 27, 2010 1:23 PM
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If you are a believer in Christ then you know certain things happen to usher in His return. Even though the things that we see happening aren't exactly the way we would do it doesn't mean that they are not orchestrated by the Lord.Jesus is always in control and always will be. That is our hope and where we find peace in every storm. This is also what the rest of the world is looking for but are deceived into believing it can be found in other places or things. As believers we are to follow Christ's example and He certainly isn't "tolerant" of evil. We are not required to just step aside and let the unjust take over what the Lord has given to His followers. We have been given weapons of warfare described in His Word. Read the Word,use those weapons,speak out as He prompts us,operate in His grace (study this) and we not only will find peace but will prevail.
Posted by: Standfirm | September 27, 2010 1:18 PM
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conservativeRN1, I hope freedom of religion in your book also includes the right of Muslims to have their freedom of religion, too. Of course, there are many, many Christians who don't feel that way. What hypocrites they are.
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 1:16 PM
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gswank54, where have you been? What was FORCED prayer in many states prior to the SCOTUS decision that outlawed FORCED prayer. Naw, Christians never tried to force religion on anyone in this country. But, anyone who does (Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc.) try to shove their religion down anyone else's throats via force or legislation need to seek mental help.
BTW, abortion wasn't criminalized in the U.S. until the 1800's and the motivation wasn't to "save the babies".
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 1:14 PM
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I am a conservative Christian (I feel that I need to define Christian because it has become distorted over time. A Christian is some who believes that Jesus is the way,the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the Father but by Him.) and I believe in what the Tea Party movement stands for. What I find interesting is how the far left is quick to attack a conservative when what they (the left) fight for is freedom of speech, religion, etc.
Posted by: conservativeRN1 | September 27, 2010 1:14 PM
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People need to understand that conservatives are not trying to force religion on anyone. Because some conservatives have religious affiliations, that is their right and is guaranteed by the Constitution. America is made of diverse cultures and diverse people and each has the right to express their opinions. Bravo to you Jordan for facing this issue that many will not touch because of the political environment. Bravo for your courage. As a conservative American who believes in our Country, it is my hope that America comes back to its strength and glory.
Posted by: jodester1980 | September 27, 2010 1:14 PM
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Amen eezmamata'
This country was formed by God fearing Christians and the only reason it is the greatest country on earth by far is because of our faith in and resulting favor from God ... not because of our capitalism and democracy.
Posted by: rlandreth | September 27, 2010 1:13 PM
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I may be quite different than most of the others who posted. I am almost 65, love my country, realize the freedoms we have enjoyed--but didn't want to be involved in politics at all, except for voting ever since I was old enough, so at least studied the presidential nominees and local people, too. I live in a rural area, haven't been to any Tea Party meetings, but do support the uprising of my countrymen and women. We may not be upset about taxes on tea, but we are upset about many things in our country today. I have friends among many different races. I have no problem with anyone coming to our country and becoming a citizen. I do have problems with our government giving people who sneak across the border with their hands held out money that I have worked and put into a system so I would have some coming back to me when I retire. I do have a problem with lots of these people not appreciating the free benefits they are getting and stomping and spitting on our flag or hanging it upside down below their "own" country's flag. And I have heard on TV news reports Mexican people who have come to America and become citizens angry about this, too. I am also not happy with Congress exempting themselves from the health care bill, and their having their own retirement system and giving ours away. I am infuriated that our leader can put into place "czars" who are helping him make decisions about our country and we didn't elect them--and he pays them BIG BUCKS from our taxes. You talk about "taxation without representation"--whoa! I have never hated Muslim people--didn't agree with them, but there are other people I didn't agree with and felt they had the right, under our constitution, to live here in the way they wanted--just like I do. I am becoming concerned that Muslims can stop traffic in two locations in New York City at the busiest time of the day because of their religion--and it's OK. I don't think any other church group would be allowed to do that and, for what it is worth, I don't think Wiccans would be allowed to do that, either. Most of the rest of us don't group up and ask for special meals for our kids in school or a special place to pray to our god at work. I know what the answer would be if I asked for that. This religion is beginning to concern me because of the rights it is taking that other religions don't have. I don't like that our leader made many comments about being Christian and now he is bowing down and kissing hands of Muslim leaders in other countries--some of which have done harm to us. Call me an old fogey--I say that about myself all the time--but I see lots of changes that are not being made equally across the board. That's why I support the Tea Party group. They are human, not perfect, but when our legislators don't listen to the people who voted for them, it's time for people like me, who have only sat and complained, to get off our duffs and do SOMETHING!
Posted by: Readytospeak1 | September 27, 2010 1:12 PM
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Tea Party Stands for:
JOBS
SMALL GOVERNMENT
FREEDOM
SECURITY
ANTI DEBT
NOME OF THE ABOVE HAVE WE GOTTEN WITH THOSE IN POWER!
Posted by: jfuente123 | September 27, 2010 1:05 PM
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I am sorry that so many have abandoned the true rights of the American People. I am very happy to say the Tea Party movement if a perfect representation of what most Americans want and agree with. No more killing babies. No more robbing us through taxes. Work hard and take care of yourself and your family. No more helping those who do not help them selves. Stop government spending and return the money back to the people who workded so hard for it.
See you at the polls.
Posted by: candacerobin | September 27, 2010 1:03 PM
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Wow - the negative posts are a sign of an effective article! The liberals know that their reign of power in DC is coming to an end. Liberals always seem to resort to name-calling when they have no intelligent counter arguments, but somehow the conservatives are labeled as the bigoted ones?
Liberals = hypocrites
Posted by: ThankaVeteran2day | September 27, 2010 1:03 PM
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KJORDAN1,
Here is the answer to your prayer.
2 Chronicles 7:14 (New King James Version)
14 if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 1:02 PM
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eezmamata'
The Christian people have never tried to force there religion on anyone in this country. We will continue to pray for the lost to come to know Jesus and be saved from Hell. Do you really believe the left is going to give you a smaller government and freedom? If you do then you are already lost. Do you really believe it is OK to kill the unborn babys? This country was formed by God fearing Christian men and women and the only reason it is the greatest country on earth is because of its belief in God.
Posted by: gswank54 | September 27, 2010 1:02 PM
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Wow, kudos to Jordan for stepping on the hornets nest here.
It is painfully apparent diversity indoctrination has led to hostilities. Historically there is no clause in the US Constitution that "separates church from state". FFs generally were adamantly opposed to government tyranny specifically the church of england.
Where you modern americans blow it is by not reading the first amendment and what it actually says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excersize thereof."
Now let that sink in for a moment please before you go spouting off how bigoted the Tea party is.
Your ignorance is showing...
Are you enjoying collectivism yet?
Posted by: NigelBruce | September 27, 2010 12:53 PM
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These comments are truly sad. Why? Because you guys have no idea what the Tea Party is about, why it started up and who it's comprised of, in addition to what it represents.
Before the Tea Party, fiscally conservative Americans were getting upset with the spending spree that Government has been on since 2008 with taxpayer money. It was only around the end of 2008 where people started to wake up, as spending had been out of control for a while before then, but nothing like this - and the costs were not adding up simply due to the war.
People were getting fed up with the following:
1. Expanding, Big Government
2. Excessive & Irresponsible Spending:
a) the first stimulus package (which was passed by GW Bush and a liberal Congress had a large negative outcry and was ignored - cost: $168B)
b)TARP (which was passed by GW Bush and a liberal Congress - this had an enormous outcry, much like the Stimulus Bill that passed earlier in the year, and again the people, were not listened to - cost: $700B)
c) the Auto Bailout (passed by Obama and a liberal Congress - again, met with enormous outcry, like the previous bills before it... and ignored - cost: $81.8B
d) Homeowner Assistance Plan (again, met with opposition and ignored - cost: $275B)
Total costs, before the formation of the Tea Party: $1.224 Trillion ($1,224,800,000,000.00)
3. People were not being listened to by the government and mass media was misrepresenting the information that the people were receiving. If you tried to contact your representative in the Senate or House, you couldn't get through, you'd receive a voice-mail message, or you'd talk to their assistant who would "take a message."
The mainstream media ignored the dissent of the people and refused to question the administration about any of the ridiculous spending taking place.
4. The mainstream media was also not fully vetting Barack Obama as a viable candidate for the most powerful office in the world, as President of the United States. If not for conservative entertainment talk shows (on television & radio), we still wouldn't know who he is. Even to this day, the mainstream media refuses to treat him like any other President... and they refuse to offer any tough questions during interviews or report facts to the citizens of this country. They haven't been doing their job and they've shown obvious bias since 2007, prior to the 2008 elections.
The Tea Party started as a result of all of this, but not until Rick Santelli of CNBC actually ranted on live television about the astronomical spending of the Obama Administration, calling for a Tea Party. He was mocked by his colleagues and the liberal mainstream media, but his words were heard by the American populace, thanks to conservative radio/television and Fox News, who all reported on this.
About one week later in late February, Tea Party protests broke out across America on several different dates.
The first nationally organized party was April 15, tax day, 2009.
Posted by: Polidiotic | September 27, 2010 12:52 PM
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Our Founding Fathers were by and large Christians who had great faith in God -- and little faith in government.
Simply put: the US constitution was the world's strongest attempt to chain down government. But the chains have been broken, and government unleashed, which is ever more apparent under Obama.
Our Founding Fathers are turning over in there grave.
The Tea Party activists seem to share one overlying principle: small government is better than big government.
Marxist Europeans may disagree, but we are Americans -- born free from the tyranny of Kings, Emperors and the Government (i.e. Socialists and Marxists).
Let's get back to our roots, and be the kind of "responsible" men and woman that made this country great, and who didn't need hand-outs and income-redistribution to create products people wanted to buy.
If you have been saying, "I need a friggin job," maybe you should start saying, "I need to create something people want to buy." That's the American way.
Vote encumbents out. Turn our backs on special interest groups whose power serves the few, not the many. Restore America to a government run, by the people, for the people.
In Jesus's name, Amen.
Posted by: kjordan1 | September 27, 2010 12:45 PM
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The Tea Party is mostly made up of people who are tired of higher and higher taxes (over 50% of our income total any more) and feeling like we have no say any more in what is going on while they (the government) is taking our money. Most of us who don't like Obama don't really care what color he is, we don't like the positions he has been taking, the national debt he's running up faster than Pres. Bush ever thought of, and the fact that he doesn't really seem to share our core values as Americans. Yes some of us are religious but that doesn't make our message less important. If we pay taxes, we have just as much right to be heard as anyone else in this country. We are tired of being a silent majority, being shut down by minorities just because we are Christians.
Posted by: quikfingers | September 27, 2010 12:42 PM
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While many Tea Partiers may vote conservatively, many are voting to cut the "Pork" and deceit. Wasteful spending is an intrusion on all of our lives. We will be slaves to whomever is in power if we cannot reduce the national and state debt and cut our spending here and overseas! Also, there is too much legislation overladen with loopholes which are deceitfully hidden and costly. Much of this legislation favors certain groups over others. Much of this legislation is favorable to the party in power and its cash cow special interest supporting groups! Talk about taxation without representation!
Don't tread on me!
Challenge to all: 1. "How much of your thinking is influenced by Hollywood, news-radio or television, newspapers (including this one), or elitist ivory tower think?" Perhaps true Judaism and Christianity offend because they condemn self-loving moral relativism, and those associated behaviors which tear society apart: cheating, stealing, lies, adultery, hatred...all ranked on par with murder in the Torah or Bible.
2. "The unexamined life isn't fit to be lived" (Socrates) May all who believe that there is a concept of sin continue to examine their behavior, thoughts and words. Don't throw rocks with speech, thought or action!
Posted by: independentwithvalues | September 27, 2010 12:41 PM
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Had the Republicans stood true to core American values, the Tea Party would not have had to emerge. In this day and age it is hard to tell who is who. There was no need for the Republicans to resort to the pagan side of American in order to gain votes.
Posted by: fcandlish1 | September 27, 2010 12:40 PM
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well, the tea party patriots seem to be the only party available that is concerned with my rights as an American citizen, as well as the constitution of the united states of America, that, by the way, my family has fought on the battle field for, ever since its proposal!!!!!!!!! argue that!
Posted by: FRICTIONMOD | September 27, 2010 12:38 PM
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To all those who cannot stand a world view that differs from the reflection they see in the mirror each day - get a grip! Your vitriol and ignorance is showing! Adults are asking to have a conversation about our differences of opinions so that we may make voting decisions based on reality. Please defend your point of view without name calling. You've clearly never been to a Tea Party rally or you are incapable of analytical thought based on the information right in front of eyes. We are looking for candidates who represent a restoration of our nation to our founding principles of liberty governed under a Republican form of government, guided by the principles of our religious, Christian roots. We humbly suggest that you read originally sourced history before forming an opinion. Then we can have a coherent discussion that may actually lead to change we can believe in.
Posted by: NPWDrDr | September 27, 2010 12:38 PM
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To be out of control is sad, to have no value for life is sad, to look out for self interest is sad, to live a life of no Significance is sad. I just read this article because I want to educate myself and make an informed decision come November. I'm for anything that promotes life, and will not vote for anything that promotes hate, and destroys life.
Posted by: success10 | September 27, 2010 12:35 PM
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I'm a Tea Party person.
For the record, I don't know any fellow partier's view on social issues. Such matters don't come up at any of our gatherings or meetings.
We all agree on three things: fiscal responsibility (STOP SPENDING!); free markets; limited, constitutional government. That's it.
About those social issues: I presume some of us, probably most of us, have opinions on the matters. I know I do. My opinions, however, are irrelevant to my work and effort with my Tea Party group.
Other than two personal friends who are are fellow Tea Partiers, no one knows my views -- or vice versa.
Why would they?
We Tea Party people have three points of agreement and work solely on behalf of those three.
Posted by: ZolliStar | September 27, 2010 12:34 PM
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Gordonborck, define "righteous". Does that include attacking Iraq in 2003, something that most Tea Partiers approved (most likely because it involved paying back Muslims). Does it include being the materialistic society we have become, even allowing the environment to be poisoned in the name of "keeping jobs"?
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 12:31 PM
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Tea was dumped into Boston Harbor because no one in British government was listening to the colonials. They were being overtaxed and had no representation. Isn't that what just happened with the healtcare bill. It was opposed by most of the population, but was shoved down our throats before anyone had time to read it, let alone debate it. It seems to me the only thinking citizens are joining the Tea Party so we have a voice. Obviously, Washington doesn't want to listen, so their defense is to disparage us with name calling to prevent others from joining us.
This is not a religious movement, but a STRONG political one.
Posted by: worriedabouthealthcare | September 27, 2010 12:30 PM
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The Tea Party movement is a return to our First Principles. Those embodied in the U.S. Constitution, D of I, Bill of Rights, and our own historical experiences as British colonies.
It is a movement returning to our historical roots of self-governing individuals. We are a Constitutional Federal Republic.
I think the most alarming event since Obama took office was to announce that "We are not a Christian nation." Our entire U.S. Constitution is based upon our Judeo-Christian heritage.
Posted by: jemofgop | September 27, 2010 12:29 PM
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The threat of being called a bigot in the quest to call our county back to righteous values and fiscal responsibility doesn't scare anyone I know in the Tea Party. They are, in my opinion, some of the finest people I know. That's part of the reason I joined.
I think Sekulow is right on here, and by God's grace we are moving forward.
Posted by: GordonBorck | September 27, 2010 12:22 PM
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So, this time social conservatives are using economic issues to further their religious agenda in a somewhat stealth manner? I am sick and tired of so-called Christian social conservatives trying to theocratize our society. Their so-called values are NO MORE valid than Muslims, Jews or anyone else in our society. Now, if anyone thinks God favors Americans more than anyone else in the world, seek mental help.
Posted by: NorthDallasForty | September 27, 2010 12:22 PM
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The Constitution of the United States best defines the people of the Tea Party movement. Read it, and you will understand who we are, because Constitutional government and protection of our liberties are what we seek to restore. Both have been absent from America for more than a hundred years. Those who denigrate us say more about themselves than they say about us, and with the same breath they declare their hatred for the Constitution and the republic it upholds. The greatest irony is that our Constitution defends their right to harbor their hatred and hurl their attacks at those of us who love it. Yet if America became the kind of country they apparently envision, their property would be confiscated by the state, and they would be voicing their disagreement in a gulag. May God bless America, and preserve our Constitution and those who truly support and defend it.
Posted by: agranke | September 27, 2010 12:18 PM
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The Tea Party is a conservative movement and it is gaining popularity and strength. In my opinion, this is one of the best things happening to America at this time. The Tea Party candidates will have to correct a lot of wrong ideas, philosophies, and laws once they take control of the House and Senate.
Posted by: ps1222 | September 27, 2010 12:17 PM
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To those spouting against the God of this Universe, I have a few things to say. Can you say with a certainty that the God of the Bible does not exist? If not you had better be prepared to face two situations after death. If there is no God then you will merely go to sleep for eternity as it was before you were born.
If there is the God of the Bible, must believe there is a heaven and a hell; The God of the Bible says they are real so you had better put your faith and trust in His Son, Jesus Christ and live according to His Word to insure you will enter a place called heaven filled with undescribable joy and peace where you will reign with Him as a joint heir and co ruler of the universe. What other god gives you that right?
The God of the Bible in which I believe is beginning to show His wrath toward this nation including many of you in this posting through ever increasing acts of weather violence, which have been breaking centuries old weather records. IT SHALL CONTINUE TO GET WORSE UNTIL THIS NATION, WHICH WAS ONCE A CHRISTIAN NATION GETS ON ITS KNEES AND PRAYS THE PRAYER OF REPENTANCE.
The problem with this country is not a political one as much as it is a spriritual one so evidenced by the hate expressed by the many posts I have just read.
And this is the reason this country is in the state in which it finds itself--chaos in our schools, mass killings, theft, and downright lawlessness, all of which will get steadily worse.
You may scoff if you like but remember you have just been warned about what you need to do to avoid a life in hell when you stand before the God of the Bible to be judged--you will have no excuse!
Posted by: Editorialist1 | September 27, 2010 12:17 PM
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Regarding the tea party, I feel like it is a movement that desires to have America turn away from from immoral behaviour. I read a lot of the comments and noted that a lof of them were filled with hate and anger. At what, who? People that believe in protecting the rights of unborn children, wanting what is best for their children's children, looking at our national debt climb and knowing it is unsustainable and wanting reckless spending to be stopped! Supporting a country that has done nothing but try to protect their own citizens against terriosts that state they will push Israel off into the ocean. Please right is right and that is what our country needs to stand up for.
Posted by: tlewis1 | September 27, 2010 12:16 PM
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It's a good thing the founders of this great nation are dead and gone, because if they were alive and simply speaking the same thing they did some 200 years ago they would be called right wing, religious bigots. The very people who fought so vailiantly for us would not even be allowed on most media outlets as they would be described as extreme. I pray those who are destroying this once great nation will realize what they are doing and change their ways before we are the former USA
Posted by: hotdogman0100 | September 27, 2010 12:15 PM
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I am amazed at the posts here.
As a middle income, moderately educated family man who is struggling to get by with less and less because every government agencey in the nation wants every penny I have to support those you can work, but will not work.
It is the bashing of social conservatives that amazes me. Yet you are faced with a much greater and intolerant future going down the road of change that we are on.
Do you really think that your rights and freedoms will be expanded by the socialist government that is being rammed down America's throat by the liberal left. There is much less tolerance from a socialist state then a democratic society ran by social conservatives. A socialist state doesn't care want you want in regards to anything. If they decide that the Socialist Republic of North America needs a state religion, then that religion could very well be Islam which is very intolerant and mixes your government and religion seamlessly.
You posters need to look to were the greater danger is coming from and pick your allies based on those who can help you pull this great country out of the clutches of true socialism. In a socialistic state none of us will truely be free or have a way to voice our outrage without fear of physical harm. Wake up to the monster at the door because it will not care who you are or what you believe.
Posted by: AmericanDream1 | September 27, 2010 12:15 PM
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Jordan, the original Tea Party people were best classified as nothing - no values except fed up with tax money being used for bailouts of certian groups but not others. Since that beginning people have arisen to organize, claim leader positions, and run for office on the popularity of the tea party movement. Some of the latter have named the values you identified BUT their expression of those values seems to me lukewarm. I've followed Sarah Palin on Twitter for months and haven't seen much, if anything, related to Jesus or the Bible, nor has she responded to my direct tweets on those topics.
It's probably too late to make a major change now unless a special candidate steps up, but what the country really needs is a serious Christian President and Congress, much more serious than so-called evangelicals (which is not a Biblical term anyway).
Read the best plan ever written for America. http://congressionalbiblestudy.org will help you think at a higher level. It's state of the art thinking on church and state.
The only way to get respect for our right to life is to get respect for God the author of life. The only way to get Congress to respect citizens as equals under tax law is to first get them to respect us as equals under God. The only way to get Congress to respect citizens on the 2nd Amendment is to put the fear of God into them: show Presidential disrespect for God resulted in judgements like Katrina and the Gulf Oil Spill. Show how assassinations were under God's authority in response to unnecessary deaths of America's Christian citizens. The only way toward respect for citizens who make pie instead of take it and divide it is to get respect for God as our provider.
Buy my book, read it, pray it, love it, and implement it. We need to go 100% right as defined in http://congressionalbiblestudy.org Kicking out the liberal RINOs isn't enough.
Posted by: overcomerman | September 27, 2010 12:14 PM
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I have attend Tea Parties ... They are mostly moral Americans. Supporting Life of the unborn and loving God. It is called freedom. God bless american for it freedom of speech. And protection for the unborn. The right to protest.
Posted by: morgenwe | September 27, 2010 12:12 PM
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The Taxed Enough Already Movement is in part the reclaiming of The United States of America by people who see through the media lies. People who are tired of all the Communist, Socialist, Marxist Progressives in the political world controlling our future as a nation. It is Organic and claimed by many of the politicians they abhore. The movement is a movement of the people, by the people and for the people. False comments ...ie: Bigots, Racist, Ignorant, Controled by something or someone else (bots), Religous distractions etc... Really name calling? Inteligent to say the least.
Posted by: jwade1 | September 27, 2010 12:11 PM
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There seem a lot of comments referring to religion on this article. Being a member of the Tea Party movement has absolutely nothing to do with promoting any particular religion. It also has nothing to do with conservativism or liberalism. It has everything to do with protesting against direct, unapportioned and illegal taxation and adherence to the Constitution. All other issues are ancillary and, for the most part, promoted by the mainstream media talking heads who seek to co-opt the movement for the purpose of taking the public's attention away from the real issues. The fstest way top stop drinking the Kool-Aid is to get your information about the movement somewhere other than the mainstream media.
Posted by: cqr80 | September 27, 2010 12:10 PM
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All of you earlier posters that use inflammatory language to settle your arguments you are indeed the uneducated in this subject matter. The Tea Party was created to fight against all of the elitist in our capital today. Both Dems/Repubs alike. 'W' spent like a crazy mad man too. So there I said it. He set our country up for this failure. Now onto the current administration 'O'. They have quadupled our deficit without even blinking twice. They have ram rodded through so much legislation that we the people feel sucker punched. I saw this coming long before 'O' was elected but he 'O' sold everyone on the lies that he wanted to bring everyone together. Most people in this country bought that lie and that is why he was elected.
I will look back on this blog on November 3rd to speak about what this movement that is called the 'Tea Party' movement has done to change the course of this shipwreck that Pelosi and Reid (not W or O) are responsible. Not to forget Frank and Dodd thaks to them for the housing crisis - the back room shady deals that they created and the dirty money that they have made "what's in their wallet". Let the trials begin in 2011
Posted by: tmullen-GOPgirl | September 27, 2010 12:09 PM
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I corresponded with three leaders of the Tea Party,and all attested to the Fact that the Tea Party is not a Political Party ,and DOES NOT take a stand on Social Issues.! To me ,that sounds like they allow homosexuals and pro-abortion members?
Posted by: JACKANGELO | September 27, 2010 12:09 PM
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"keep your stinking religion to yourself"...hmmm, wonder who the bigot really is? So much for preaching "tolerance", eh?
Posted by: nofoolingme | September 27, 2010 12:08 PM
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Historical fact: In 1774, the very first Continental Congress invited the Reverend Jacob Duche to begin each session with a prayer. During the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Benjamin Franklin insisted that, " the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth - that God governs in the Affairs of Men." Hence, by your definition, it is a historical fact that these men that established your freedom are white bigets, anti-liberty & anti-freedom people almost as evil as the taliban. You'd have been really miserable to have lived back in the late 1700s.
Posted by: flatts | September 27, 2010 12:08 PM
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The Tea Party is a diverse group of people that simply want their liberty. It draws conservatives because they largely believe that the smaller government becomes the stronger and more influential the individual citizens can be within their own lives. They believe our country is strongest when the citizens accept personal responsibility and not having government micromanage us and not having government reward irresponsible citizens. Disincentives to irresponsibility will draw everyone to take responsibility for their own lives and hence further reduce government need and role in our private lives. Christians are involved with them, because we believe in the Biblical moral code and that God is unchanging. Jesus Christ is my greatest stability in my life and my anchor in my life.
Posted by: RichardFL | September 27, 2010 12:08 PM
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OK, tea party "members" (no such thing by the way, as there is no enrollment) are supposedly uneducated: I support the movement and am a summa cum laude physician. Virtually all of my associates agree with the movement's principles, but none are "members" or identify themselves as such. You are in for a very rude awakening in November, as there are dozens of fiscally conservative, small government, family value voters ready to vote for these issues for every one person who attends a tea party rally. The "movement" is much, much bigger than just the tea party itself. I have many friends in strong agreement who have no religious involvement in their lives. The movement is not just the "religious right" or the "Christian Coalition" re-named.
Posted by: nofoolingme | September 27, 2010 12:07 PM
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"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." President John Adams
All you libertarians have had decades to get something done. But you can't without God. No matter how the anti-faith or twisted-faith factions try to undermine our nation, the faithful, God-fearing majority are standing tall on our knees and you will see the awesome result! And truly, no matter what happens in the near term, read your Bible to see how the story ends. Thank you Jay, for all your hard work - I give to your fine ACLJ every month and to my church every week. All things work together for the good of those who love the Lord!
Posted by: conservigal | September 27, 2010 12:03 PM
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Please try to back up the lies told about the tea party with actual facts. Opinion is not fact. That is basic educational fundamental. The country is being manipulated to thinking that it is a crime to be a Christian. When was the last time a Christian flew a plane into a building. How many Christians are killed every year for speaking what they believe?
Posted by: soberdog5 | September 27, 2010 12:00 PM
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It is an interesting observation that so many comments regarding the tea partiers are full of hatred, biggotted comments and a down right terrorist tone in speaking your opionion. If you don't like our country and are so opposed to the freedoms it offers--LEAVE. It's as simple as that. Please remember where you are--in a country where YOU CAN speak your opinion--freely, not without risk or course, but nonetheless, FREELY. WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION regardless of what our leader says or thinks. To deny that we are not is simply, blindness to truth. No matter what is said, our Living God will prevail, as will His chosen people. No matter what is said and done, this is fact.
Posted by: saffer1 | September 27, 2010 11:55 AM
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I find it hilarious - as an independent US citizen, how the left embraces the shallow charade of "Image is Everything" and " The ends justifies any means of acheiving it" while denying the clear measureable evidence of such (tactics comprised of distraction when the truth is pointed out, lying, salnder, deliberate misrepresentation of the facts- ) while, at the same time, denying they do either (another lie).
Today's Readers of the Wash. Post, please note that most of such responses to the above well thought out and articulated article, resort to simple-minded name-calling, degrading the subjects of the article and basically embarrasing themselves in front of the majority of Americans who have polled that they are either conservative or moderate in their politiacl views (as opposed to the tiny 20% of the minority elite" who scream bloody murder anytime one of the majority voices the majority opinion of the country.
One thing it does reveal, is the panic that resides in the liberal activists hearts when they suspect that the moral majority (note- not a proper name referred to here)of Americans have awakened to what the minority left in the administration and Congress are trying to sneak through, undermining our Constitution and true American way of life (the Way which is totally supported by the Tea Party. By the way. Any legit student of the "non-revisionist" history of our country recognizes that the Christian-principle based Constitutional text does TOTALLY protect religious freedom, recognizing that each individual human being is a totally free moral agent to reject or accept the Good News and go about their life the wya they choose, bearing the ocnsequences, good or bad.
Posted by: jerrygsph | September 27, 2010 11:53 AM
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You don't get it, the Tea Party is not about religion only. The media has scared you into believing he Tea party is some religous fanatics, trying to take away your freedom, you r wrong. It is about trying to stop the government from being in every part of your life, we don't need these idiots in washington. Why since Obama has been President have more jobs been in the public sector??? If you keep needing govt. support they will have all the power. That is Naziism, leave us alone. We don't need a jobs bill or mtg assistance. Leave us alone, Let it work itself out and we'll all be fine. And stop taxing us to death..
Posted by: JohnAdams4 | September 27, 2010 11:53 AM
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People describe what THEY want the Tea Party to be so they can justify their own thoughts. I am a Tea Party person. I am also white, female, Christian, conservative, a constitutionalist and a patriot. I'm 65 and have been around the block a few times..so am not ignorant of what's been going on in this country. I AM NOT A RACIST as you would love to believe. ((If you open your eyes you would see that people of all races and nationalities are in the Tea Party movement.) In fact, I was ready for a black president - we needed that but NOT Obama. He made my skin crawl from his first appearance in regards to presidential campaigns. He is anti-American in every way possible. He is an embarrassment. The Dems have used black America to do their ugly deeds and, if I were black, I'd be furious. Liberals are destroying everything this country ever stood for and all our young men and women have died for from our very beginnings. Shame on liberals.
Someone has to be the most powerful nation on earth. If we aren't who WILL be?? You will be speaking another language before too long..that is, if we're still around.
Posted by: unicorn1945 | September 27, 2010 11:52 AM
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I have attended several Tea Party rallies. The people in attendance encompass all ages and ethnicities from all walks of life.They stand for all the values that have historicly made this Nation great. They have morales, values and religon. They believe we are "one Nation under God".
They stand for borders,language and culture. They are fiscaly conservative and believe that America is the land of oppurtunity for those who are willing to work for it. They do not agree with the direction the current administration is going and will stand up and continue to oppose the markist regime and there march to socialism.I am a Tea Party supporter and will no longer stand by in silence and watch the country I love be taken from me. I believe we will be sending a huge message this November and will shake up Washington like never before.
God Bless America!
Posted by: jbrusseau1 | September 27, 2010 11:52 AM
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yea go tea party, get these demorats out. tired of seeing people struggle who have medical, took one to the dentist and was told 1 x-ray and they can only pull 1 tooth. everything goes up when demorats are in office, and businesses leave or go out of busines. go tea party yes
Posted by: BOROCKO | September 27, 2010 11:51 AM
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I consider myself a participate of the TEA party movement. The main theme that you will hear at any tea party is STOP THE SPENDING! Regardless of what you may believe in terms of social issues, if the country goes bankrupt it’s game over. Another theme I hear at these meetings is getting the government out of places it doesn’t belong. Article 1, section 8 defines those areas where the Federal government may exercise its authority. Are many of the people at these meetings also socially conservative? Yes, many are but there are also plenty who are not. But what unites everyone is the ideas of smaller government and less spending.
Posted by: wrwoodman | September 27, 2010 11:51 AM
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Jordan you seemed to have touched a nerve; the previous comments are quite hateful and intolerant wouldn't you say?! Thanks for standing for truth and those of us who care about our nation not some political, socialist agenda. See you at the polls!
Posted by: dgauthier1 | September 27, 2010 11:51 AM
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I am amazed at the above posts by people who obviously live in fear. What are you so afraid of? Tell me where in history you see a religion imposed on the people of the US. Marriage was already established in the US as a Man and a Woman in laws passed years ago. Not by current day Tea Partiers. Taxes are what congress levies on its citizens not religious people liberal or conservative. And what is the big deal about Israel having its own country? Unless of course you want to impose your religious views on the world that it should be eliminated. Why does that scare you? Who cares? Amazing! You people are just unbelieveable. Full of bitterness and hate. Why do you let others control you and your emotions? If it didnt exist you'd be on to something else. Like 'Kill the white man' I guess. And if that were able to be done, what would be next? You people are miserable to the core. Face it. If you people had common sense you'd be tea party members but common sense eludes you.
Posted by: churdy | September 27, 2010 11:51 AM
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Reading the majority of the comments on this article - I must say I am appalled at the outright disregard, disrespect, and blatant outrage - all because you don't agree with the philosophy of the Tea Party or social conservatives? What happened to being able to express your disagreement with an issue in a civil adult manner? I would have thought that Progressives, being smarter than everyone (just ask them) and obviously much more educated, refined and overall better than anyone else in the entire world
(just ask them) would be able to express their thoughts better than this. But all I see is anger. And you have the gall to say the Tea Party is angry?
I consider myself part of the movement. I believe in the overall grassroots beginning of it. I agree, there are aspects of it that the GOP has invaded, and I don't welcome that piece of it. This is not an arm of the GOP or any other political party - though the media would like you to believe it is.
Social conservatism is what this country was built upon. Like it or not. And the principles this country was founded on are what makes it the greatest nation on the face of the earth. The progressive left is trying to slowly (well not so slowly anymore) degrade and destruct this country. We social conservative, pro-life, pro-Israel, pro traditional marriage people are not going anywhere. So learn to deal with our presence just as we have had to put up with yours.
Jordan, hats off to you for the article which was well written. The leftist progressives have an issue with anything that doesn't promote government entitlement and intervention and complete dominance - well they will have to learn to deal with it because the movement is on, it is growing, and it isn't going anywhere. You have done enough damage, now it is time to stand aside.
Again, absolutely appalling the way people choose to express their disagreement. Name calling, attacks - and you call us racist, bigoted, angry and extreme? Take a good look in the mirror and you will likely find those same words staring back at you.
Posted by: joco10 | September 27, 2010 11:50 AM
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I'm a tea party member. I'm a Christian and a proud patriotic American. I love God and the United States. The US was founded on God's word, the Bible. Kids in school used to learn to read from the Bible. The US used to have God's blessing. We were the country everyone looked up to and wanted to be like. Now we are getting to be like the rest of the world. Globalization is working. And it's scaring me. I don't look forward to living in a little shack with no water and maybe no food. That's where we are headed. Unless you are one of the very rich that doesn't get tased to death. Didn't we break away from England to get away from taxes?
Posted by: hangoomer2 | September 27, 2010 11:50 AM
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The Tea Party is exactly like the original one, fed up with oversized and intrusive Government and ready to stand up and be counted. We are here to stand up for the original intent of the Constitution as set forth by our Founding Fathers.
Posted by: hersheylover | September 27, 2010 11:49 AM
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The Tea Party movement is not a Libertarian movement, however their are libertarians within the movement. I believe, as did the founding fathers, that mankind has a depraved, sin nature, that if left unchecked would bring calamity. We do not seek to force our beliefs on others, and we will not stand by and let those beliefs be trampled on. Just as the pregnant woman is not the property of her pre-born child, the child is not the property of the mother. Both have been endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, the first of which is the right to life. We welcome Libertarians and will fight for their liberties up to the point they begin to interfere with the rightful liberties of another, or undermine the culture of our great country.
Posted by: It_Is_Well | September 27, 2010 11:48 AM
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Unfortunately, there are the Tea Party Express (which seems to be owned by the GOP) and the Tea Party Patriots (which is NOT owned by the GOP).
The Patriots (who I subscribe to are for: fiscal responsibility, following the Constitution, and the Free Market) but NOT for social agendas.
The Express seems to want to deal with social issues, though since I don't subscribe to them, I just know they're NOT the same as the Patriots.
So, I suggest that the Patriots CHANGE THEIR NAME to be, "Patriots Party" and thus NOT get BLAMED for the statements by the Express group.
Posted by: stevor | September 27, 2010 11:40 AM
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.."PRO iSrael"?
PS: Anyone who is "Pro-iSRAEL" is an enemy of "Pro-SECULAR!! Why:
Because The Usurpers of "The-ROCK" [pbu BEN GURiON , ALBERT EISNSTEIN et al] of pre-1948 & pOST 48 are, to the contrary, art NOW calling themselves (via Garbage usurping jU-BASTARD tRATOR'S LiKE leaderships "Bi-Bi' & CO.) suddenly R CALLING THEMSELVES A "JU"-state OF iSRAEL INSTEAD OF A [100% secular] "Sabra-state"!!!????
WE[i] Did NOt ask to Be Born. But WE Will Destroy All Anti "SABRA-STATE (Israel) & Supporters, Anywhere on S.pce-S.hip Earth. Note: Call US the "NEW HAGGANAians"!
iMportant: IF America Wants to Also become a "JEW Stae via "CHRISTIAN-STATE U.S.S: Then the "REVOLUTION Is COMMING: This Year into Next & Beyond!!!!!!!!
"GiVE US [EKLAHTi=ON's] Liberty of Give Us Genuine [Premature[ Death!!!
Get Out of Afghanistan!@ Get Out of Middle East & Elsewhere! ELSE:
The Great CIVIL-WAR in AMERIK Is Coming! Hark:
Apocalyptic Thinking HUUMATE(s) War VS. Pre-Apocalyptic HUMAN(s) War is Coming Any Day!!
NO WAY AMERICA (Not AMERiK) will Sneakily or Suddenly become A "JEW-STATE" aka a "Christian State" HERE!
Better Go Back To Europe! Or Go Back to Middle-East etc..!
VOTE: Death To ALL [tax Exempt thieves] iMported Religion SYSTEMS (NOt made in Amerik) here!!
AMERiKA is "SECULAR-Nation" & So Is ISRAEL. NO EXCEPTIONS; Else DEATH TO both AMERICA & iSrael as WE[i] Knew Them!
OUR Babies will Destroy Ye/Yp "SATANIC VERSUS lovin (all) ABRAHAMiCS+ & (all) VEDiCSs+. IT is the EKLAHti-ON Prophecy!
Posted by: woodstock-41 | September 26, 2010 6:46 PM
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The Tea party folks are without a shadow of a doubt bunch of white bigots who cannot stand the change the country is going through. The bigotry is quite obvious looking at the poster they bring to their so called rallies, etc. Although they protest that those are generally a minority of people etc, etc, blah blah, blaaah. The clincher is that they had their first rally on 15th April 2009.That wasn't even 100 days since Obama took the oath office. They are protesting that taxes are too high after "W" leaves and Obama comes in. That is sufficient to prove their bigotry against the first black president. Their incessant blather about Obama's birth place, etc, etc.
Without a doubt that these are also the right wing religious bigots. Look at the folks they are trying to get elected Christie O'Donnell, Sarah Palin - their Darlings
Posted by: Secular | September 25, 2010 9:17 AM
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If you don't like the separation of church and state, join the Taliban.
Posted by: jillcohen | September 24, 2010 6:16 PM
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The teabaggers are nothing but a bunch of scared, uneducated white people who want to limit our rights, not expand them.
Posted by: jillcohen | September 24, 2010 6:12 PM
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I too want to know what the tea party libertarians think of the claims Sekulow is making here.
Is your movement, are you yourself, owned and operated by the social conservatives? Are you going to allow these people to take over your outrage at the government as means for their taking over the government? Can you really imagine your freedoms and liberties will not be infringed when these theocrats take over?
That I never hear from you on these matters is the reason I'll never join you. Either you're too cowardly to resist them or you are lying about being libertarians.
Posted by: barferio | September 24, 2010 5:45 AM
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I just call you theocrats, before and after the election.
Posted by: Athena4 | September 23, 2010 10:19 PM
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"On November 2nd, you'll be calling most of us winners."
Very astute to at least say "most of us." Time will tell! Will wait and see what kind of success for the Teabots.
Posted by: harveyh5 | September 23, 2010 10:16 PM
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Well, there are many things I can call the Tea Party, most of which would be censored. How about nut jobs? That seems to cover it nicely.
Posted by: JonMoles | September 23, 2010 7:14 PM
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This guy is just another one of Pat Roberton's dominionist stooges.
Sorry Pat, but there are 2nd amendment remedies to the kind of evil tyranny you want to impose on America.
And how about, you real tea party libertarians, what do you think of what this stooge is saying? he's telling you who are you, he's telling you that you're a social conservative, that you want to sht on everybody's liberties ...
how about it tea party, are you a bunch of dominionist robots are are you real live Americans!
Posted by: eezmamata | September 23, 2010 10:29 AM
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You, sir, are no Libertarian. I was kind of interested in the tea party movement until I found out what it really is: a new christian conservative movement. Can't wait to vote against all of you and keep waiting for REAL Libertarians to come to the forefront.
Posted by: WrongDog | September 23, 2010 10:11 AM
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And the rest of us - those who value freedom of religion for EVERYONE and do not want your religion or your religious rules forced by law on us or our children, who view a pregnant woman as a full human person and not her fetus's property, who value all marriages and who view love and commitment as more important to the "definition" of marriage than genitals and strict adherence to gender roles - we will be the losers.
And so will American liberty.
Oh, and no sane modern person is pro-traditional marriage. I hear no cries advocating traditional rules such as having the man being the only legal person recognized in marriage, for having him own outright any property or money that she earns or brings to the marriage, for banning divorce even in cases of abuse or rampant infidelity, or for banning interracial and interfaith marriages. The only "tradition" you care about is enforcing gender roles, and keeping marriage as a loveless, soulless matter of "insert tab A into slot B to produce child C" rather than recognizing the full diversity and range of non-abusive human love and human partnership.
Posted by: Catken1 | September 23, 2010 9:55 AM
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"Call us tea partiers, radical right-wingers, Republicans, fundamentalists, Libertarians .."
You are certainly no libertarians. All of the social conservative agenda has to do with forcing everybody in America to be your kind of christian, or they're out. You want your christian variant to be supreme over all others, you want your morals legislated into laws, you want to control who sleeps with whom, who reads what; you want to control the media to be sure only your perfect christian dogma is sent out over the airwaves, printed, said or seen on the internet.
You anti-liberty and anti-freedom people are almost as evil as the taliban. The only difference is you're here, and they're not.
We can have small government without your help. We can have fiscal responsibility without your help, the the thing we can do by ourselves the most without your help is be FREE.
Keep your stinking religion to yourself.
Posted by: eezmamata | September 23, 2010 9:47 AM
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TEA party, as in TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY.
How can such a simple and much overdue, movement generate such hatred?
Simply because many of the spokes persons are Christian?
ABSOLUTELY, in fact Christ himself told us to expect exactly that.
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; from John 15:20.
TO THOSE WHO HAVE LOST HOPE, as it appears in the comment lamenting that it is too late for our country and that we are doomed...... brush up on your bible.
Although God had already called Jonah to:
Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me. Jonah 1:2
When the people repented:
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Jonah 3:9-10
We as a nation have two choices, but these choices are made individually, BECAUSE WE ARE FREE, AT LEAST FOR NOW.
It is therefore imperative that those of us who do have understanding, get on our knees before God and pray for our nation.
Regardless of your party affiliation, or who you like best, or who looks best on camera, or what great sound bite you heard, pray for guidance in casting your vote.
Pray for your nation. Gather together with your Christian friends and pray in agreement for the soul of our nation. God has given us His word,
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 18:18-20
We are the only hope this country has.