Why Christian conservatives are Israel's ambassadors

This is a excellelnt article. I would like to thank Pat Robertson for obeying God in founding this wonderful organization and for defending the State of Israel. I'm not jewish by birth but I am by heart.

Anybody here read Nehimia. Especially Chapter 9. It states Israel is Gods Forever. So unless you think that we need to see that many times they were kicked out by God and Brought back in by God. Sorry Mr. Palestinian, Maybe you should have read the bible before you tried to move in, only to get kicked out by God.

I dont think that most Understand. Its not up to us to interpret the issues, God will tell us plainly himself. Such as He wrote so many thousands of years ago to Abraham, and then to other people who were listening in the scriptures. God Said the world would know by My Miracles/My land/Their strength even though they are small. That He is their God, and they are his people. So as for one scripture, Bless Israel and be blessed. The whole Bible talks about his Unfailing Love for them. I am a firm believer that if God has chosen them, That I stand for God. It doesnt take just one scripture to see what Gods plan is. The whole end of the world comes to pass "Because The nations surrounding Israel come against her" Then God does a much appreciated thing. He removes the darn wicked skud missile throwing anti Israel folks and Throws them into the Pit. I for one am not going to the pit, because I am smart enough to know God does what He says, and says what He is going to do.!!!!Ahead of time. So if you want to lose, then Fight Israel, If you want to win, Stand for Israel. Hello, Cant you see, your doing exactly what the Bible said you would do, Divide out Israels land. So pay up. Mr Obama, if you keep doing it, God promises what He will do.

Great article-I wholeheartedly agree that America should strongly support Israel.

There is an old Bible story about the Kings of Israel and Judah thinking about going to war against their enemies. All the prophets in the land of Israel were summoned to tell the Kings the word of the Lord, if God was with them or not?

All four hundred prophets were of one voice. ´God is with you. Go to war.´

The visiting King asked the King of Israel if these were all the prophets of God in Israel? The King said, ´there is one more, but I don´t like him. He always prophesies against me.´

Guards were sent to get Micaiah to appear before the Kings. He was told the other prophets advised the Kings ´God will be with them in battle. Don´t rock the boat, and just go along with the others.´ At first, Micaiah went along with the other prophets, saying ´go up to war.´

The King then said, how many times have I adjured you to tell me only the Truth?

That solitary man then said, ´I saw the Lord asking his Heavenly Host, who will entice the King of Israel to come up to battle so he may die? And one said this, and another said that, and another said, ´I will put a lying spirit in the mouth of all the prophets of Israel.´ The Lord God of Israel said, ¨Do it!¨

Naturally, one of the other prophets struck Micaiah across the face. The Kings ignored him, and went to war on the advice of the four hundred.

The King of Israel died in the battle that night. The prophet was sent to prison before the battle, to be held until the safe return of the King.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-315307

Who do you follow?

There is an old Bible story about the Kings of Israel and Judah thinking about going to war against their enemies. All the prophets in the land of Israel were summoned to tell the Kings the word of the Lord, if God was with them or not?

All four hundred prophets were of one voice. ´God is with you. Go to war.´

The visiting King asked the King of Israel if these were all the prophets of God in Israel? The King said, ´there is one more, but I don´t like him. He always prophesies against me.´

Guards were sent to get Micaiah to appear before the Kings. He was told the other prophets advised the Kings ´God will be with them in battle. Don´t rock the boat, and just go along with the others.´ At first, Micaiah went along with the other prophets, saying ´go up to war.´

The King then said, how many times have I adjured you to tell me only the Truth?

That solitary man then said, ´I saw the Lord asking his Heavenly Host, who will entice the King of Israel to come up to battle so he may die? And one said this, and another said that, and another said, ´I will put a lying spirit in the mouth of all the prophets of Israel.´ The Lord God of Israel said, ¨Do it!¨

Naturally, one of the other prophets struck Micaiah across the face. The Kings ignored him, and went to war on the advice of the four hundred.

The King of Israel died in the battle that night. The prophet was sent to prison before the battle, to be held until the safe return of the King.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-315307

Who do you follow?

There is an old Bible story about the Kings of Israel and Judah thinking about going to war against their enemies. All the prophets in the land of Israel were summoned to tell the Kings the word of the Lord, if God was with them or not?

All four hundred prophets were of one voice. ´God is with you. Go to war.´

The visiting King asked the King of Israel if these were all the prophets of God in Israel? The King said, ´there is one more, but I don´t like him. He always prophesies against me.´

Guards were sent to get Micaiah to appear before the Kings. He was told the other prophets advised the Kings ´God will be with them in battle. Don´t rock the boat, and just go along with the others.´ At first, Micaiah went along with the other prophets, saying ´go up to war.´

The King then said, how many times have I adjured you to tell me only the Truth?

That solitary man then said, ´I saw the Lord asking his Heavenly Host, who will entice the King of Israel to come up to battle so he may die? And one said this, and another said that, and another said, ´I will put a lying spirit in the mouth of all the prophets of Israel.´ The Lord God of Israel said, ¨Do it!¨

Naturally, one of the other prophets struck Micaiah across the face. The Kings ignored him, and went to war on the advice of the four hundred.

The King of Israel died in the battle that night. The prophet was sent to prison before the battle, to be held until the safe return of the King.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-315307

If I live to be 100, I will still be a child in the eyes of the Eternal God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and all the rest of us humans.

If at any point we think we know it all, we make ourselves equal to God, and even Jesus in his flesh confessed God is Greater.

We who born again by the Will of God, and not by the will of man and the flesh are involved in a Spiritual warfare in this world occupied by people who only believe in material things.

Christ warns when you are invited to the wedding feast, don't take the higher place
of honour in case God has someone in mind more deserving than you, and you are embarrassed to be sent back down.

When a human becomes aware of God, start at the lowest place, and by surrendering your pride and ego to God day by day, casting off your old way, then you will be in the Life Paul talked about, dying daily, and resurrecting daily.

The Bible warns about deception and being deceived by the god of this world, if someone really wants to know God, they must be looking for God within themselves 24/7, and not just going to church on Sunday.

The link to the Jerusalem Post article in my comment below has been removed. When I read the article as it appeared, thankfully I copied and pasted the whole article to a CNN iReport at the time.

For those of you interested, you can read the whole article here. It was shortened to meet the character limits of this blog

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-302362

What is really tragic about the Jews, is after the horrific experience the Nazis put them through in Europe, they did not learn the lessons of man's inhumanity to man.

In a different place and Time, now that they have the political, legal, economic and military power over the "enemy", the State treats the occupied Palestinians with the same contempt, disdain and inferior status the Nazis assigned the Jews.

So when exactly did we go nuts? With depressing regularity, our leaders say the dumbest, most vile things. And we, the public, look up at this bloated, cacophonous monstrosity of a government and think, "Everything is OK."

Take our public security minister, for example. This June, while reviewing antidrug operations in southern Tel Aviv, Yitzhak Aharonovitch praised an undercover cop for his grungy appearance, remarking that he looked an "Araboush." Now for those who don't speak bigot, Araboush is an anti-Arab epithet on par with, say, Jewboy or Hymie. In any sane Western democracy, an official caught using such language could kiss his career good-bye. But not so here.

When the media called out Aharonovitch for the slur, all he had to do was apologize, then assure us that the comment did not represent his worldview. And we moved on because no one who belongs to Yisrael Beiteinu could possibly be racist, right? I mean, this is the same party that sought to institute loyalty oaths, ban Israeli Arab political factions and prohibit commemoration of the nakba - the defeat and dispossession of the Arab community during the War of Independence.

Avigdor Lieberman, leader of Yisrael Beiteinu, has even suggested disenfranchising Israeli Arabs by handing over their towns to a future Palestine. Oh, and there was that stray comment about bombing the Aswan Dam in Egypt.

Again, in a normal Israel, Lieberman would be left to rant on a soapbox next to the meat-is-murder wackos and the Raelians. But what do we do with such a dangerous demagogue? Make him foreign minister, of course! For the past couple of months, Lieberman has been serving as our voice abroad. Well, sort of. Lieberman is, in fact, so toxic that Defense Minister Ehud Barak and President Shimon Peres have to pick up much of the diplomatic slack.

WHAT'S STRANGE is the fact that few people here seem troubled by this. Maybe it's because we expect so little of our politicians that nothing shocks us anymore. After all, we do have a housing minister who backs Jim Crow-style segregation.

Lecturing the Israel Bar Association earlier this month, Housing Minister Ariel Attias said that he sees it as his duty to keep Arabs out of Jewish communities in the North. Mixed towns are dangerous, he said: "Look at what happened in Acre." Yes, let's look at what happened in Acre. Last Yom Kippur eve, a pack of youths attacked an Arab motorist after he had driven into a mostly Jewish neighborhood.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1246443861883&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Another view, as a military research analyst and historian...I laugh at the half-facts, and mis-guided comments thrown out as if they were truth.

In contrast to Iranian leadership belief and many ignorant Islamic spokesmen; approximately 7 million Jews were systematically murdered (in Europe), another approximately 17 million mass murders occurred in Russia; mostly Jews and Christian Orthodox; approximately 5 million Christians were murdered for their refusal to accept the atrocities, and approximately 7,000 Catholic and 1000 Protestant clergy were murdered for supporting the Jews and disapproving of their religious rights.

We do not have any substantial record of the Muslim or Islamic faith being targeted. Is it because Hitler's plan was predicated on his belief that Jewish and Christian values were the only ideologies he could not defeat.

His Book Mein Kampf or My Struggle speaks to his dislike and struggle with the morally pious and societies conscious. It nauseates me that Jihad translates to My Struggle. And, during my Middle East cultural research that the number one Book read by students in Muslim Schools and Islamic teaching/camps (other than the Koran) is Hitler's Mein Kampf.

The relational transition means that the "my struggle" Muslims have is any nation, country, culture, society that believes in Christian or Jewish values, morals or beliefs. Your anger and frustration is evident in your comments you've posted.

Trust me when I say your struggle will get much worse; the end times are right around the corner.

Why Christians support Israel. It's pretty simple. Pick up the Bible, read the last Book. God is coming back. Love the sinners, but Hate their sin. The two witnesses are not coming to America or Saudi Arabia, but Israel. God will reign and restore the temple, in Israel. He has chosen 144,000 (sic. Jews). When Jesus returns (the second time), He will split the mountain...in Israel.

God speaks of His Divine and human lineage...he was a Jew. AND, Christians who believe in Him are grafted into His Divine and human lineage, as Jews (ref: wild grapevine grafted in, or the grafted in vessel).

Last, I will pray for you to believe and if you don't I will continue to pray for you. You will pray to Allah that I become a Muslim, and if I don't you want to harm me, and I will still pray for you.

It upsets the non-Christians, specifically the Islamic forewarned that we will not believe anymore dis-information, political correctness rhetoric or fallacious posturing of attacks on our right to choose, speak our beliefs and share the knowledge that you mis-judge our kindness as weakness. BTW Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air, from having to work for 38 years with so many political self-serving malcontents.

raulpompa, do you not understand the difference between BC and AD. Do you understand what the Common Era means?

The Jews consider themselves to be God's chosen, exclusive people with sole, privileged access to God more than any other people or Nation.

By the sacrifice of Christ, the promise God made to Abraham, Issac and Jacob, the INDIVIDUAL also known as ISRAEL, the whole world, all people, not only the Jews, have the same access to the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, you and I.

In Christ, there is neither Jew or Gentile, Male or Female, Slave or Free. You are all one.

Any notions of special exclusivity is at odds with the Free Spirit of Christ.

That was the true Light, which lights every man that comes into the world.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and HIS OWN received him not.
But as many as received him, to them he gave POWER TO BECOME the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,

Are my comments being censored again? Too much Truth to adsorb?

There is nothing secret that will not be revealed - The Word of the Lord.

The state of Israel has every right to exist .just like evry nation on earth has fought to exist and keep its sovereignty . it dont matter what the gentile nations want Israel will over come and contninue to exist. they are Gods chosen people and they have his protection over them . just like it quotes in the book of sofonias gaza will be destroyed and its habitans hamas . and that includes persia God Bless Israel and the jewish people.

Why is it that when any of the people that want to destroy Israel do something against Israel they are only defending themselves. Yet when Israel defends itself they are the aggressors?
The Arabs never play fair. It would be easier to reason with them if they would but they know that their position is not justified therefore they stack the deck against Israel and for that matter against Christians also. They are masters at twisting the truth to make whoever opposes them look like they are being unreasonable and aggressive. They want their way regardless of whether its morally or even legally right.
Israel defends herself simply because she has to. The Muslims do not really want the land. What they really want is Israel destroyed, completely gone from the face of the earth. They use the excuse of wanting the land that belongs to Israel so that they can justify their attacks.
They have fooled the world into thinking that is their real purpose. Iran's leader has said many times as did Arafat that only thing that will bring them satisfaction is for Israel and her people to cease to exist! You have too many so called informed people taking the Arabs side without knowing all the facts.
As soon as they were to get what they wanted they would turn on you with no regard for the fact that you have supported them.
Then the only thing that will matter to them is for you to become a muslim or they will kill you. When you befriend a snake no matter what they promise eventually they will turn on you and bite you!

If we are going to recognize the fundamental reality and Truth of the matter, Israel IS a creation of the Bible.

At the end of WWII, not many of the Allied Nations wanted to accept the European Jews as refugees. It was in that atmosphere, the Zionists were able to convince the UN the Bible is their "Deed" to that part of the world, overriding the rights of the existent population and landholders.

Whether the non-religious secular world believes it or not, what we are seeing being played out in the Middle East conflict is the the gradual Revelation that the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad is in control, and the Universe is unfolding as it should.

In answer to this question of ASIZK

"What does your bible teach u about the jews who denied Jesus and his mission and persecuted him on the cross????? Do your bible and your god contradict themselves?

This is what Christ has to say and we are only at the beginning of the exposure and Revelation of who they might be?

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Because you have kept the word of my PATIENCE, I also will keep you from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which you have, that no man take your crown.
Him that overcomes will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my NEW NAME. Revelation 3

In the Bible Jesus also advises in many places that not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is in Truth a Christian.

The following is a most idiotic anachronistic statement (verse) I have ever heard: "The Bible teaches us that "those who bless" Israel will "be blessed."

What does your bible teach u about the jews who denied Jesus and his mission and persecuted him on the cross????? Do your bible and your god contradict themselves?

your 'isrl' is no more than a myth and your bible talks about ancient jews who broke their covenant with God; and present 'sir' is an artificial amalgam of illegal armed immigrants from all races and cultures on the planet -which amalgam is no more than a passing colonial settler entity.

Even the Vatican declared the other day that the "promised land and chosen people" is no longer-and does not justify the invasion and occupation of Canaanite Arab historic Palestine and the expulsion of 2/3 of its population and the occupation of the rest under a brutal Jewish military apartheid regime.

As to john hajee: he is a false witness as he is a false prophet. He wants to be an enemy to the whole world: the whole world is against the illegitimate entity of Jewish invaders and occupiers. Go down to San Antonio and see his wealth and property!!! Robertson is not very different-he is scandalous.

Sarah Palin:is the greatest political clown in the history of America-and no more than a laughing-stock and a self-serving politician-and

Jordan,
U and your "moral majority" have no shame..at all.And u have nothing to do with Jesus Christ as I know him. U and your gang -and GWB-distorted the name of Jesus-as the early crusadetrs did in the 11th-12th century when they invaded and occupied the Arab/Muslim East under false pretext of religion as u advocate.

Illegal armed jewish immigrants-with the help and comlicity of "great britain-I don't know what is great about it" invaded Arab historic Palestine in 1948,occupied 78% of its land and expelled thru violence and ethnic cleansing over 75% of its defenseless indigenous Palestinian opulation (over 800,000 human beings; in 1967 jews launched another war and invaded and occupied the balance,22% of Arab historic Palestine(Jerusalem,West bank and Gaza). So far those alien jews from some sixty nations have occupied all of Arab Palestine and colonized well over 90% of its land.

They unleached a barbaric war on starved and besiged Gaza in 2008/9 murdering some 1500 Palestinian rfeugees including 400 infants and children-those refugees were ethnically cleansed by alien jews in 1948 from the surrounding towns and cities around GAza;this war was because those refugees still demand to return to their homes in those occupied towns and cities which jews now call 'isrli towns.'

There are 5.5 million Palestinians in all who endure hell under a jewish apartheid military regime on their own homeland.

jews have no right to this land:bibilcal mtyhs can not be taken seriouesly-Palestine was settled by Canaanite Arabs in 5000 BC before jews ever existed.

jordan,
Does your god accept the exile of the now six million Palestinains for the past 63 years?
Does your god accept a brutal military occupation and starvation of 5.5 million Palestinans (Muslims and Christains)?

If your god does then he is flase god.Jesus Christ the son of the righteous woman Mary would never accept such aboherent injustice.

Isaiah continues,

Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.
Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, you people of Gomorrah.
To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? says the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
When you come to appear before me, who has required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hates: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when you make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil;
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Come now, and let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
If you be willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land:
But if you refuse and rebel, you shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD has spoken it.
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
Your silver is become dross, your wine mixed with water:
Your princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loves gifts, and follows after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither does the cause of the widow come unto them.
Therefore says the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
And I will turn my hand upon you, and purely purge away your dross, and take away all your tin:

Those Christian Conservatives might find themselves at odds with God who says,

Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD has spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
The ox knows his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel does not know, my people do not consider.
Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
Why should you be stricken any more? you will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and purifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
Isaiah I

I'm a christian, and conservative only to liberals. But I'm not an ambassador for Israel, that's total Non sense. Totally non Biblical and a pretentious charade.

If anything I would be an ambassador for the Gospel of the Kingdom. Nothing more nothin less and nothing else.

God's Kingdom is exactly that a KINGDOM and in His Kingdom God Rules Forever more.

Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and dug a wine press in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
When the lord therefore of the vineyard comes, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
Jesus said unto them, Did you never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

No Nation on earth has brought forth the fruits of the Kingdom yet.

Christ says, These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from mine to this very Day.

The irony is these same right wing Christians support Israel without qualification even when it does wrong and Judaism rejects Christ.

Islam recognizes and accepts Christ and these same right wing Christians are against Islam.

Islam is anticipating the return of Christ as much, if not more than Christianity. They believe when he returns he will choose Islam as being the True Faith in God

Dear Jordan, I like your article and ACLJ's support of Israel and your reasons, but I would like to offer some other Biblical reasons for all Christians to support Israel.
The main reason for supporting Israel is that we are a part of Israel if we are Christians. The Bible tells that we be come Sons of god when we are reconciled to God by
Adoption(which started way back in the old Testament and Jesus says we also become part of Israel by Adoption also at the same time.
I am referring to John 10:1-16, the key verse is 16, Jesus speaking, "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold , and and shepherd". So true, redeemed and reconciled Christians are both Adopted Sons of God and Citizens of Israel. God Bless.

As a Canadian, I echoed the call of the Prime Minister of Israel in CanaDa when he called for "The Truth to reign supreme" in his final speech to a Jewish group in Toronto the night before waking up to the nightmare of the Flotilla fiasco and the Mavi Marmara.

In the early reporting of the incident, The Jerusalem Post revealed 1 Israeli commando did most of the killing. They also quoted another commando as saying the commandos were firing warning shots and dropping stun grenades on the deck of the Mavi Marmare as they were rappelling down the ropes. What is the Truth?

Israel does not have a monopoly on the notion of self defence, and when a military force attacks a civilian passenger ship in the middle of the night in International Waters, the people on board had the right to repel the attackers.

The only time Israel appreciated the UN was when the State of Israel was created within a defined territory. As Israel expanded beyond the assigned area, expropriating more and more Palestinian land to accommodate the settlers, Israel did not want to hear the UN cite Israeli for numerous violations of International Law and hasn't had much use for the World Body since then.

Now that President Obama recognizes building more Jewish settlements on the very land that is the subject of negotiations is an obstacle to Peace, they don't have much use for him either.

Ray Joseph Cormier
Ottawa-Hull
CanaDa

I agree with Jordan. I just wish people would look at a map. In so doing, it is obvious who the bullies are. I don't think there is a country that can honestly say they haven't taken land from it's inhabitants. In fact, Israel keeps giving up land for elusive peace. Something we Americans certainly would not do. At what point in history does one go back??
Signed,
Not Jewish But Can Read a Map

The dispensationalist interpretation of the Bible by many writers in this thread blinds them to the reality of the state of Israel. I believe that there is no biblical justification for the founding of the state of Israel. What gave the British the right to designate land inhabited by Arabs for many generations as a homeland for Jews? What gave the United Nations the right to steal that land and give it to Jews?

Unethical as the founding of Israel was, the state exists and the rest of the world needs to accept that reality. A democracy? Do the Arab Israelis who are required to pledge allegiance to the JEWISH state of Israel experience it as a democracy?

Yes Israel needs to be secure and to defend itself against rocket attacks and suicide bombers. But it also needs to deal justly with its Arab citizens and its Palestinian neighbours and not grab their land and build on it. There are Jewish Israelis who are concerned with Justice in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. I encourage your readers to read the web pages of Rabbis For Human Rights and B'tselem for insights.

PS: You & your Group of Embarrassor's, NOt Ambassador's; art the Same sneaky Groups who Attempted to Satanically Sneak in, our (not Your), Public School System the

iNTELLIGENT DESIGN" craparino conspiracy in 2005, via point Blank Lies to a Federal Judges in a Federal Courts via Federal Jury? or Em Banc? Wow!

Now Ye/Yo art suddenly (self Serving) wannabe Ambassadors?

NO! NO! Ye art a bunch of Embarrassors's!

WE[i] Have Great Long Term Memories!

So Ye/Yo can still Fool some of the Folks some times, but Surely Not All of [US] all a da time! Aye? O; Satanic VersUs Lovers (not only Ishlami's).
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Correction: Rabbi Jesus said, "Suppose I Come to bring this world PEACE (Unity)?, NAY, but Division(WAR!)" LUKE:12:51 et seq.

Hence, "Smoking-Gun Evidence" & much much More.

Note: IT is Unconstitutional To "WAVE" any Rights; Especially having a Chance to Plead-Guilty to a Crime for a Lessor Sentence! Pleading Guilty in America, is Illegal! Right Word-Merchants??

Only Ye Pre-Apocalyptic-Off's can Turn a Holyi Constitution "NO" into a "YES"! Or a YES into a KNOW?

Ye/Yo embarrassor's, Not ambassadors, should be Dis-Bar'd!

COUNSELOR?

WOW! What a great "Freudian SLIP OF GENUiNE PROPHECY"!

ALL YE/YO so-called Liar's, ooopps, Lawyers, or wannabe "Jurist"s should RECUSE Ye selves from the holyi American [SECULAR-based] BAR for USURPiNG our Forefathers {pbu Them} Commands (Not a xrstian Bar based on some JU-Rabbi & Rabbi MosesUs Commands?)!

Rabbi JU-Jesus slipped and said, "IF Ye Not believe in Moses, Then Why Should Ye/Yo Believe in ME" [Similar slipped/said].

Note: The 1st Bar Association was Born in NEW YORK CITY [Bar] +/- 1870.

Remember: There is a night n Day difference between a "PRE-APOCALYPTIC (Attorney/Lawyer/Court-Officer: YOU)) and an APOCALYPTARIAN one, (US)! Same

Goes for Scientist-offs; Teacher-offs et al! Never ON(s)! Soo

PRE-Apocalyptic-OFF Thinkers (like Ye/Yo & CO.) are inferior to Us Apocalyptic-ON Thinkers.

Note: just because YO/YE Pre-Apocalyptic-OFF's passed the so-called "BAR"; does-NOt make you an Intelligent APOCALYPTiC-ON!

EXAMPLE: Eating (Sinbolically) in Effigy, via Rabbi JESUS 'Flesh" [Wafer] and or Drinking Rabbi Jesus 'Blood" [Wine/Grape] will never make you & Co, as Rabbi Jesus addicts, Whole!

iMPORTANT: Ye yo need to Throw away the Jealous Pre-Apocalyptic 10+ JU Commandments! created Via jealous gods player like Rabbi MosesUs: A Copy Cat Zeus-ian, Osirisian, Sethian, & Zorostrian Culture thief!

You should All be Arrested & sent to the Gulag for Promoting Him [Rabbi JesUS, in the COURTs & Behind [Judgship] CHAMBERS!

You Revealed your own JEALOUSY's and Pre-Apocalyptic Conspiracy's against THIS great SECULAR United-States Of America; NOt "United States Of Rabbi-jesus"!

Remember MIRANDA?: "What Yo Say, Can or Will be Held Against You.." [Similar]? VERDICT: Ye/Yo Groups art GUILTY as SIN!

YE/YO art Guilty of "SEDITION" and playing self-serving Ambassadors, Contrary to [SECULAR] CONSTITUTION!!!

WE[i] could always have a Civil-War about this (Secularists vs. Fundamentalists)!

Pleazaa Pre-Apocalyptic , wannabe, Jurists; RECUSE YE SELVES! O' Wretched Enemies of America within & out! How SUPERSTUPIDSTITIOUS can YO/Ye get?

O' SATAN(s) in Secular Garb(age)!!

Even YE/Yo Mr. Rabbi jesUS (NOt ours) said,

"I Come Not to Make WAR/DIVISION on EARTH, Not PEACE/UNITED"! [Similar said] Pleazza See LUKE: 12:51. And

Rabbi Jesus also slipped n say'th, "HATE ye yo Lives; Ye/Yo Parents, Hate Ye/Yo Kids et al.." [Similar said]. Pleazza see LUKE 14:26 et seq!

PS: YE/Yo Eucharist Addicts need a Rehab (be Apocalyptic; Not Pre-Apocalyptic) real bad! LAME & BLIND! Oye... Oye...!

Ye/Yo should Cut-out those cited above, aka Someone Else's Religion books, via Bibles etc.. all those Stanza's, Sura's, Scripts, Pasiks.., and then Eat/Swallow Them Satanic-VERSUS parts chased down via Urine!

Apocalyptic Lawyers must keep a close Eye on Ye Yo Conspirators of our SECULAR Government of/in OUR AMERICA (not Ye Congregations, Organized Rabbi Jesus Eaters & Drinkers, in America and elsewhere)!

I can't understand why supposedly commited christians (people who should follow the Book) just stress one verse ("those who bless...") forget a whole bunch of other verses about justice, hospitality, respect for human dignity.

By no means is covering up Israel's misbehaviours a way of blessing that nation. What about applying biblical moral standards to all the parties?

From a point of view of another christian believer, US christians, at least many of them, lack of credibility. Didn't you approve Mr.Bush's actions? I bet you also agree with Pat Robertson's opinions.

I wish you would characterize this just as a political stand; can't find many pages on my Bible that support your position.

The laws of the America are based on the Ten Commandments, handed down to us through the preservation of the laws given to Israel by Jehovah God. At America's inception, it was guided by worship of the same God and obedience to the same laws as was given to Israel. We are united by a common belief and a common set of standards to guide our daily lives. God's hand of protection is on the Jewish nation, and it matters not who comes against it, Israel will be preserved. However, Christians must stand with Israel and defend and bless their land out of obedience to a holy God, Jehovah, Whose purpose it is care for the land He promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The land was not promised to the descendents of Ishamel, but to descendents of Isaac. Grandma of Six

The Bible says Jews are Gods chosen people. God grafted in the "Gentiles" or all other people of the earth that CHOOSE Christ Jesus as Lord. GOD will never give up on HIS people. It now becomes OUR responsibility to befriend, trust, and if necessary to defend at all cost all of GODS people especially HIS chosen ones; the Jewish people and nation of Israel. CHRISTIANS OF THE WORLD NEED NOT TO STAND IDLEY BY AND ALLOW ANY UNJUST TO OVERTAKE THE JEWISH NATION OF OUR GOD. They need the support of Christians Worldwide.

Not only is standing firm with Isreal important because of my Christian Faith, but it is a part of our American Heritage. The struggles of the Jewish People to obtain and maintain their own sovereign state have been great. We have a responsibility to defend their right to their homeland. They are God's chosen people and a faithful ally of the US.

LOVE the Jews and my Jewish Messiah. Yes, the land of Israel is rightfully theirs, given to them by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The haters are too blind to see this, too blind to see that Israel has tried time and time again to live in peace with their half brothers, even giving up their own land. Justice is coming soon to these haters, for we have a just God. Their punishment is going to be big. Today, I googled the Holocaust and had to stop reading because it just made me so sick. I said: "Lord, how can man be so evil?" "The Greeks and the Romans...are gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time but it burned out...the Jews saw them all, survived them all...all things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces passed, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?" Mark Twain, 1898.
God's chosen. Love you, Israel, the Lord will always be with you.

Well Mr Obama seems to be Hiding and pretending to be a Christian. Yet every action seems to say otherwise. His roots are more solid in Muslim thinking. However J McCain. Why Bring Him up? He is not making any decisions now about this. Our Pres is in control. The knowledgeable people in our country agree that support of Israel is Right and Crucial. It seems that the Direction at this time is to focus on what Obama says and what he does. He says he is for Israel, Then cuts them down For building. I am not here to play games. Obama must simply stand for Israel at Any Cost and come out and deny the Muslim Regime which is to separate Israel. Anything else is trying to serve to Masters. It just wont work. Its like trying to feed a snake Crickets when the thing he sees is a nice fat mouse. He wants what he wants, A mouse. Muslims want All of Israel, and they wont be happy with bits and Pieces. What part of that does The world not get? Right now, Right here we must gather together to stand strong and reject bits and pieces, and give Israel its Right to Fight against its enemies. If it causes war, then the ones who are poking them deserve to be poked back.

"Christians owe their total spiritual inheritance to Israel. If there were no Jews there would be no salvation, no patriarchs, no prophets, no Bibles, no Apostles and above all, no Savior.

Except for a very brief visit by Joseph, Mary and the infant Jesus to Egypt, all of the events in the Gospels took place in Israel. Over ninety percent of the people portrayed in the gospels were Israelites (with a few exceptions such as the Magi from the east, the Samaritan woman at the well, and a sprinkling of Roman officials.) All twenty seven books of the New Testament were authorized by an Israelite. All twelve of Jesus' Apostles were Jewish. What is more, Jesus' identity as an Israelite did not cease with the end of His earthly life, for in Revelation 5:5 He is still described in Heaven as 'the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David.'
Some Christians have described the church as the 'New Israel' or 'Spiritual Israel.' Yet these are not Biblical terms. They are man-invented terms and ideas that go back to people like Augustine, Origen, and Luther.

After the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the Romans renamed this land 'Palestinia'. However God has not forgotten His promises. Our God is a covenant keeping God. He made an 'everlasting covenant' with Abraham and his descendents and He will not break it.
Just because their land was forcefully taken and its name changed, does not mean that Israel no longer has any rights to this land. The land of Israel is in fact, the only land specifically given to a people by God. What other land can make the claim that God Himself specified that it was given 'forever,' as an 'eternal inheritance'?

"And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: ALL THE LAND WHICH THOU SEEST, TO THEE WILL I GIVE IT, AND TO THY SEED FOREVER." Genesis 13:14-15
"In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, UNTO THY SEED HAVE I GIVEN THIS LAND, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates." Genesis 15:18-21

In all, more than six million Jews were massacred in cold blood, one third of the Jewish people, including one and a half million children.
It would be wrong to think that it was true Christians who promoted anti-Semitism.
History shows the true Christians fighting the Nazis, smuggling food to the Jewish children in the ghettos, hiding Jewish families, helping them to escape and even endangering and losing their own lives to do so. During this terrible and dark period of history there were some glimmers of light, like the Danish rescues, where hundreds of fishing vessels united at night and rescued almost an entire Jewish community."

Excerpts taken from "Israel in Prophecy," 1992, Dr. Peter Gammons, pp. 5-7,9,22

My heart has always gone out to the Jewish people.. our own President should have more respect for their plight.

For those criticizing President Obama for not supporting Israel enough, I remind you that it was John McCain who finally repudiated John Hagee's endorsement because of his "crazy" ideas concerning the Holocaust. Hagee is, of course, the founder and national chairman of Christians United for Israel.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/1/92552/92083/28/466793

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/mccain-rejects.html

So you both are blind to the fact the Israel is 1) the only FUNCTIONAL democracy in the Middle East; 2) that is has proven to be a true friend to the US, 3) share in common values and 4) that it requested our help. How about those 4 for non-Biblical reasons for our support of Israel, or will you refuse to SEE that too. -- babybugalu

It's always possible to conjure up non-religious reasons to do anything. My point was that the non-religious reasons you and others have cited for supporting Israel are far less important to many evangelicals than end times theology -- as supported by the views of many of the posters on this thread and the words of John Hagee -- when he chooses to tell the truth.

There are many democracies in the world who share our values and would like our help. Are we obligated to unequivocally support all of them -- for all time -- even when our interests don't align? I would contend that we aren't. Evangelicals, on the other hand, demand that we must, in Israel's case, based upon a few cobbled-together passages from the Bible. From my perspective, that collection of stories has proven to be far too contentious and unreliable to be used as the basis for any country's foreign policy.

Historically, Israel defies all odds. Perhaps that's why history books are slanted away from it. When the prophecy of a nation being created overnight was fulfilled, we were not the first ones to have been called to this. Nevertheless, we did respond, in part thanks to President Nixon. For our current leader to turn his back on Israel takes us back thousands of years when kings did what was evil in the sight of the Lord. We need change? Remember Saul. Though the current Jewish people be liberal and perhaps atheist as one put it, it is the job of the Christian (gentile) to pray for and bring the gospel of the love of a living triune God who would love nothing more than to prevent every human being to not be eternally punished (separation from God is painful). Scripture tells us that as far as it up to us, to live in peace with all people. There is wisdom in that. Don't be fooled. Satan knew that when the US was being established, Israel, the reborn nation, was not far behind. For this reason the countries that wanted to share this continent with President Washington went to the south to try (after he told them to get lost - he saw through their superficiality) and destroy us from within. That is being attempted again. Our President is purposefully deleting the Name (God) out of our most important historical document. Baby steps. He knows we will not tolerate sharia law (by the way, how can a religion that hates women [such beautiful women!] be so accepting by women? Certainly the women in Scripture have great import - to indicate that woman is not a thing to hold in contempt. So much so that it was a woman who first saw the resurrected Jesus, Yeshua Hamashiach, in a society where women were not considered). If we as a nation allow our leader to lead us astray for the purpose of destroying us and attempting to destroy Israel (be assured, God says anyone attempting to split or destroy Israel, the apple if His eye, will face Him), our nation will fall in Judgment. We must pray for our leader (whom God placed in office for such a time as this), for Israel, the peace of Jerusalem, our nation and the Jewish people. It is important to pray for the Jews half brothers, the children of Ishmael, too. To God be the glory. Shema Ysrael, heed the Lord, Mr. President.

I was in Isreal a few years ago in 97. And the solidarity the Israelies feel with America is everywhere almost with out exception where you see an Israelie flag there is an American flag flying next to it. Where in plaistine they were dancing in the street and burning the American flag while the twin towers burned! In Israel the kids would smile and wave at the Americans on the tour bus yet when we crossed over into Jorden they would glare at us with hateful eyes not only the kids but the women too you would see there eyes pearing out from behind the burka with hatefulness in them. Israel is a tiny nation on a little strip of land, land that was given to them by God first then but the UN and later won in battle as they defended themselves from those who would anihalate them! Israel must be allowed the right to defend herself. Why is there even a question on this matter? The sides have been drawn, you can ingonr them if you chose, but it doesn't change the fact that Israel is our friend and the Nations that hate her and seek her distruction hate us as well! They call Israel the little saten and America the big saten. We must stand with Israel and support her right to exsist! This is not a matter of religion it is the right of a people to have a home land.

Evangelicals need to be honest and consistent, or admit to being highly selective in their international policy: If the U.S. based immigration policy (and subsequently war policy) on protecting the country's Christian majority from ever being outnumbered by non-Christian voters, would we still be a democracy? Would Jesus have agreed with taking land by force and then limiting full residency/citizenship to only certain religous groups?

I agree that Isreal and The Jewish people are and should always be dear and near to our hearts (speaking as a Christian Conservative American)But it seems that too many people have repalaced the God of our bibles with the bannner of "Democracy".
Too many people have been deceived into believing that Isreal was created by the United Nations in the 60's.
God called Abraham and set him appart from the nations to be His chosen people. YHWH opened the womb of Sara his wife (a free woman)and she bore Issac, in whom was the promise that all nations would be blessed in his seed. Yashua whom most christians call Jesus was born from Issac's seed, and all peoples are blessed in Him. Many would like us to believe there are no Christian Jews, but that is definatley not the case. We free people have a right under law to believe as we choose and our eternal destiny will be deturmined by our choices. As a christian I fully support Isreal and the Jewish people in all their efforts to live and exist as a free and sovern Nation in the land that God ordained is theirs. Without the constant threat of extermination by those who desire their destruction.
Isreal will exist because it is ordained by God, not because America is it's ally, but if america curses Isreal as somany of our enemies do it too will be cursed. I'm not sure how the Jewish people in general feel about this fact, but it is the truth and we should embrace it. I'm glad that Isreal is our ally and I'm glad that our Christian American forefathers realized this truth, our country has been exeedantly blessed as a result of our faith. Now that we have been blessed there are those that would have us change our attitudes about Isreal, I pray that God would intervine and make right their hearts. Because as surely as God Exists, Isreal will remain until the last day. And Yashua will fight for them and destroy all His enemies. As a christian my aleagence belongs to Chist alone, and in service to Him I pray for the peace of Isreal, and look forward to His comming in glory. If that scares the enemies of Christ and Isreal, it should. To the point that they will be converted and escape pending judgement. I pray that America would wake up out of it's delusional slumber and regard the wicked for who they are. Democracy is not our Savior nor our faith.
Yashua is our strength and our fortress, Isreal is our friend. To God Be the Glory let not His people be ashamed!

Maybe This is why we are seeing the Housing Foreclosure issue. The banks Gave us a house for A certain rate of money, Then then sell our loan to other banks but do it say "without proper documentation" all to make a front and have money moving thru the computers until no-one knows where it is. Then when they kick you out of the house because they are unwilling to work out a deal with you, even though they paid nothing for your house, then sell that house from underneath you, and tell you to get lost. Who became in charge?, The Bank. Well Israel, was given their land for the purpose of needing a place to establish as their own. Now the EU/Nations/Palestinians "Bank" are trying to take it back. But not because of debt, because they feel like they made a bad deal. Oops, We gave away a piece of property by mistake, Its to Valuable. Its HOLY LAND. Well now they are all about recanting. So who's getting kicked out. The Israeli's. Why, Because their land Is Valuable. Why, Because the Destruction Crew "Holy Warriors" cant be happy until (ALL ISRAEL IS WIPED OUT). So there is no Peace Process, They wont be happy with a little here a little there. They want it all. The LIE is, that they will be happy if they can just split it up a little. That has proven over and over to be NOT TRUE. So is this about the Bible, YES, Is this about the Holy Warriors, Yes, Is this about the Koran, Yes? They all think they should have the WHOLE LAND. Period. So what do we do about it? Well Israel is to small to defend itself, Unless God Steps in "Which I believe will happen eventually" and The Main world Agenda is not For Israel, "Except the main People of the USA, Not the government", so what can we as Peaceful Christians do? Well we need not throw Bombs, or cause Hate. There is enough of that from those Holy Warriors! We watch as Prophecy turns into REALITY. We pray For Israel "God Knows our Hearts", we give to people like Jay Sekulow and Cornerstone Church, Who are for Israel, and we support them as Gods chosen People. Not one ounce of hate, Not one ounce of slander. Just simple logic's like. ((("They are in the land/They own the Land/It theirs/ They have lived their Before/They are good at making it grow/"note, the Hate Mongrels didn't do anything good with the land"/ And they are very hard working and family orientated."))) Unlike the Hate Mongrels who will kill and slaughter innocent children and their own wives for almost no reason, except to live their own selfish lives. It seems like clear and simple thinking, but to many who are under the false impression that Israel is some undeserving group who just wants to destroy. They are indeed the opposite. Look at the Gross Past of the Germans and their hate towards Jews, They were so Hateful. yet they were able to do it in the name of religion, because the had the influence. Who has the influence Here. Mainly the Muslim world(Obama) and the News Media who is anti-Israel. Go fox News and I like this Article Wash/Post.

The Jihadist (17 comments) seems like a very unhappy person, lets pray for him.

- thompson_allenb

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Thank you. I am always pleased and happy when my Christian Abrahamic cousins pray for me, including during Ramadan.

I am also happy when my Christian Abrahamic cousins pray for Christopher Hitchens and world peace.

I'm a "her" by the way.

babybugalu, My questions were more directed at the creation of Israel, if you read my post completely "This is not to say that Israel should be dissolved, hardly. It will give you a perspective to solve the the problem". Also at what population level does a group of people loose its right to a homeland if the population is the criteria for a homeland? By the way what is the criteria for any group of people to be bestowed a homeland? You go through a historical synopsis of middle east. And also quite generously suggest that other Arab nations should have simply accomodated the Palestinians when Israel was created. I wonder if you would be so generous to accommodate your neighbors in your house when their gets foreclosed, assuming you are quite well to do.

Lets face it I am not advocating that Israel be dismantled at all. However, the local pre-1948 populace was given a short shrift in all this. The creation of Israel in the aftermath of WWII was nothing but European expiation of her sins for 2000 years. Majority of Israelis are of European descent. Other than the fairy tale, they really did not have any claim on that land at all. Even if their ancestors were from there, that was at least 60 - 70 generation ago. It is really the Christian Europeans who should have said that all people who are born on European soil are Europeans and we shall not mistreat them and accommodated them.

I ma not proposing that Zoroastrians be given a homeland in Iran or asking them to leave India. It is not the current day Iranians fault for Zoroastrains to move out, it was their fore fore parents fault, much too much time has past. On the other hand Parsees have been in Indai for about 30 generations and have contributed immensely to the Indian heritage. They have as much right to claim India as their own as the rest of the Indians. As a matter of fact they are very welcome and do not encounter any discrimination in India.

That said too much time has past since the creation of Israel, at least two generations. It is impractical to undo the knot. But it behooves for the protagonists of Israel to acknowledge that a grievous wrong has been done. The Palestinians need to also realize that however legitimate their grievance is they do not have the right to curse their future generations to a life of poverty and misery, just to correct a wrong. From the looks of the situation, they can continue with their intransigent stand and continue to inflict the same fate on their future generations. Of course each generation has the choice to make for themselves and its future generations. they can do this till the judgment day and not resolve the issue. The whole thing should be removed from the fairy tale land to get a reasonable resolution.

The Jihadist (17 comments) seems like a very unhappy person, lets pray for him.

This is not about converting the Jewish people or the end times.

That sounds disingenuous in light of the history of anti-Semitism by the segments of Christianity that make up the religious right. The Southern Baptist Convention has conversion of Jews as explicit official policy. The Latter-Day Saints have been posthumously baptizing Holocaust victims even though Jewish organizations have asked them to stop. The popular Left Behind series depicts Jews as essentially proto-Christians in denial about Jesus, rushing in hordes to convert after the Rapture. And then there's the bashing of "cultural elites" that sounds exactly like old myths about alleged Jewish cabals in the media and academia.

Some observers conclude that the Christian right's support of Israel is biblical. The Bible teaches us that "those who bless" Israel will "be blessed." Time after time, this is an attempt to scare Israelis away from the Christian right.

- Jordan Sekulow

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From quite a number of posts here in this thread, it is obvious that support for Israel from quite a number of evangelicals, teabaggers, constitutional conservative is biblical-based.

The Israelis have a right to be scared of and away from the American Christian right.

This is an excellent article and a very important message for evangelicals to present to the non-evangelical community. As an evangelical, I personally support Israel for many reasons: the tragic history of the Jewish people and the need for a Jewish homeland; my Christian faith, which commands my respect for the Jewish people and acknowledges God's unique plan for them in prophecy; and as Jordan so eloquently points out in this article, the commitment of the modern State of Israel to freedom and democracy in a region that is plagued by oppression and persecution.

Though the combination of these interests fuel my passion to support Israel, it is critically important to make clear that the third reason concerning Israel’s commitment to democracy and freedom is independently sufficient to demand my support of Israel as an American (evangelical and non-evangelical alike) enjoying a life that is built upon these values. This is a great article and truly a timely message that will help bridge gaps in understanding and increase support for Israel.

It's interesting that Conservative Christians support Israel with billions but don't support for our own children the same universal health care Israel has.

To those who base their support to Israel on biblical “reasons" I have news for you. The founders of present day Israel were mostly atheist. Most of its present leadership is atheists. Zionism is a political movement not unlike Communism or Nazism. As to those who are willing to go to war to ensure that the Jews of Europe colonize Palestine why did they not show generosity in giving them part of their lands to live on after they had persecuted them for centuries and then murdered them by the millions?

Jihadist

Clearly you have a lot of time on your hands.

Perhaps you should use some of it to actually acquaint yourself with the U.S. Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the founding fathers, before you continue to display your complete ignorance of the Judeo Christian roots of this nation.

We may not always act like it, but we were birthed from 13 colonies into, ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

Check the Pledge of Allegiance for that one.

IN GOD WE TRUST, that would be prominent on U.S. currency, for what reason now?

But as to Israel defending itself, and U.S. support of their defense, I can do that without biblical grounds, (although they are clear and immutable).

I SUPPORT THE RIGHT OF ANY NATION TO DEFEND ITS BORDERS, AND TO DEFEND ITSELF FROM THOSE WHO WOULD DESTROY IT.

Pretty simple.

It took an attack on U.S. soil to galvanize the American people and bring us into World War II.

Sadly, 9/11 doesn't seem to have had a lasting effect on the American people, lucky for Jihadists, sad for America.

We remain the sleeping giant for now, complacent and secure, not having any real concept of the terror that reigns down on our allies daily.

Even after seeing Israel and Palestine, I cannot imagine living where terror is an ingrained part of everyday life.

Lucky for her enemies, America has not awakened.

I assume you know the meaning of Jihad - I do, so don't pretend to preach against religious zealots when you take the name HOLY WARRIOR for yourself.

I take the name GodlyLady1, and make no pretense, that the HOLY WAR we are confronted with is anything else.

While I don't deny the politics of OIL, or the less than pure motives of many politicians, (on all sides), I do understand the unadulterated hatred that is Jihad. Most Americans really don't get it, they think it is just some big misunderstanding to be worked out.

I sometimes wish I could hide my head in the sand and join them, but I have been to Israel, and to "Palestine".

How does one make peace with those determined to destroy them? Israel keeps trying, and the U.S. keeps pushing for more concessions, in the name of peace.

Would we give away California, Arizona, or New Mexico, if our borders were assaulted with missiles instead of illegal aliens?

NO WAY, just don't see that happening!

Why should Israel be any different?

Its not Horse manure to speak of the Bible as grounds. There is no other book in the world which can describe purpose. Even as 1948 Happened to be the Year that Israel became a nation again, "Exactly the same time the Bible said it would" OOoo such Drama.Just how the Bible said it would. "Over night without a battle" Id say that Horse manure is made up of Grass from some beautiful pastures, and you would say, " I am trying to get you to believe that junk" Well Truth is Truth" so if you want another reason we should support Israel, Here is the best reason Yet! By supporting Israel, you will be promoting the more gracious and loving group of people. If you support the separation of Israel, then you will be supporting the guys who drops bombs off at Public schools and Buildings where they hope to kill as many as possible. They also throw thousands of skud missals at Israel and hit places like schools and high traffic areas. SO to be frank, I think only people with a death wish do not support Israel. If that isn't good enough of a reason, then you don't care about innocent people!!!!! Israel would not launch a single weapon, if the darn hate mongrels wouldn't attack them day and night. Is there an intelligence problem with hate here. People Hate Israel, Israel wants to be friendly and live in Peace, But the Haters wont stop! Hello. Earth to Hate Mongrels, Your the problem. Just let Israel alone, And you will see they aren't out to hurt anyone. But you wont, so you'll have to pay the price of losing more lives and see the killing of more innocent people. Who is making prophecy happen. Sounds like the Hate Mongrels. Christians are saying stop the hate, and they keep sending bombs over into Israel. The news makes it sound like Israel is the Bad guy, but they are the ones who are running back and forth running from bombs. Its so pathetic how blind people are.

For those of you who feel that the Jews have no right to 'invade' Israel and drive out the Palestinians, you need to study your history. Back in 70AD, the Palestinians drove out the Jews, destroyed their beautiful temple where they worshipped God, the one who created them and chose to favor them as His Chosen People. Then they, (the Palestinans)had the audacity to build a Mosque on the very piece of land the Holy Temple had occupied for centuries before. That is their way of claiming victory; just like they're trying to do here in America after taking down the World Trade Centers then wanting to build a Mosque on the very site they felt victorious on. The Jews are simply taking back what is rightfully theirs. The Palestinans (Muslims) can scatter elsewhere now like they forced the Jews to do back in 70AD. This Land is THEIR LAND! AND RIGHTFULLY SO! God will take back what belongs to Him when HE is ready. When they (the Muslims) least expect it. Just wait.

Israel has always been our friend. They are not murdering, thieves like the Islamic terrorist that want to steal land that they falsely claim should be theirs. Historical records do not surport their claims. Israel has already given up land to try to appease these madmen but it is futile to give into them because they will not be satisfied with anything less than the total control and ownership of all of Jerusalem and Israel.

We gave Israel our word to defend them. They have earned our respect and friendship. Their enemies are our enemies for all the reasons given in the article and in comments.

To the bible/christian haters posting :
You should go join the Palestinians, you sound just like them. You would be happier with people who totally agree with you. Unless you have something against the Muslim Islam religion. You would have to convert and swear allegiance to them or they would kill you as an infidel. Not just disagree with you like the christians here.
Which brings up another little item to consider. These Muslims have said over and over, not trying to hide it most of the time, that they intend to kill all who are not Muslims...Does that bother anyone of you posting in their defense ? Are only reading some googlygoop that never tells you what they are saying for real?
You that blast christians for minding that they are being threatened with annialation by these people along with everyone else that does not bow to them. This makes christians intelligent not aggressive morons. I think our constitution still allows for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.... To refuse to recognise an enemy that has explained extensively how much they hate us and want to destroy us asap, should concern all who are not one of them. They have made it very clear their intent is to take over everywhere they can. America is on their list. They already have one of their own in our highest office along with a considerable crew just like him. So you can keep underestimating them and they might just make a believer out of you yet.

In Zechariah 2:8 God references Israel as "the apple of His eye", and with that said Israel was a nation long before as God gave them this territory. God also states that anyone who is an enemy of Israel is an enemy of His. I stand with Israel and God will not let this go on indefinitely. I believe as a Judeo-Christian nation we cannot turn our backs on God's chosen people. I for one will not.

It pains me that I am unable to fulfill my dream of about 10 years to go to Israel and learn to communicate in Hebrew so that I won't be totally lost hasn't happened yet. I love them and have desired to live among them to understand them since having been adopted into the Family of God by the shedding of Jesus' blood on the cross so that the non-Jews such as myself and many more may have LOVE Himself as my God and Daddy. Keep up the good work standing up for the rights of the Jewish state as a whole and keep me informed so that I can pray. God bless you ACLJ.

When a people (“Palestinian’s”) will allow their children to live in poverty with no future and they have the power to change that by selling their rockets and weapons to provide the children with a better life, we have to wonder about the humanity of that group. Jewish people have lived in other societies peacefully.

I feel the need of the hour is to draw the concern of all Christians across the globe to protect the Israelites from its enemies.

Some states of India have Anti-conversion laws. This law is nothing but a mockery of secularism, which endangers the evangelical mission. Also, I wish the christian nations to support us in their prayers for India to repeal this anti-conversion laws in all states

Israel has always been our ally and is alone in the middle east-of radicals who want to anniahilate them! We must not turn our backs on them and must support them in every way! Obama is a Muslim and is dead wrong!

To Cornbread_r2 and secular:

So you both are blind to the fact the Israel is 1) the only FUNCTIONAL democracy in the Middle East; 2) that is has proven to be a true friend to the US, 3) share in common values and 4) that it requested our help. How about those 4 for non-Biblical reasons for our support of Israel, or will you refuse to SEE that too.

And to secular: on your question of the Zoroastrian “…population… reached levels of 120,000 people worldwide in the 1960s, making Zoroastrians members of one of the smallest religious minorities in the world.” So what is the similarity with Jews? Would you recommend to the UN that it press Iran to create a state for, by now, less than 120.000 people that are growing smaller by the decade? Your perspective seems a bit skewed, since you asked.

To abrahamhab1: When Israel was recognized as a State by the UN in 1948 (where Jews had always lived, by the way), the surrounding and HUMONGOUS Arab countries ousted all the Jews in their territories, and Israel (renamed Palestine by the Romans to TRY to kill their heritage), took them in. Why did not the HUMONGOUS Arab countries take in their ‘palestinian’ brothers? For lack of space? Hardly! It is a propaganda stunt to show how ‘bad’ Israelis and Israel are. That is why there are no synagogues in the Arab countries, that is why there are no Jews in there governments, right? Mean while in Israel, there are synagogues and Arabs in the Knesset. I would recommend you stop your TAQIYYA and come forth with the truth that you simply do not want ISRAEL to exist. That would be more believable than the “hogwash” (to use your word) that you are trying to lay on us. I would also invite you to take a tour of GAZA. You will see they are living in a well developed, prosperous looking area of the world, except for the pictures the muslim liars send to the liberal media to sell their downtrodden existence. TAQIYYA is very prevalent within the islamic politico-religious system, so when do we know when they are saying the truth? NEVER! Research your positions before you speak, you may start to sound a little smarter than you appear to be. And to add insult to injury by the palestinians to the US, the funds we, the US citizens, send them to build sport facilities and schools wind up with the names of TERRORISTS that have attacked us, or other civilians and children and/or tourist; you can research that for yourself too. So please no more HOGWASH!

Great article.! I support Israel and pray for them daily. Thank you for preparing a thoughtful, and to the point article. Please continue to keep us informed.

Isupport Isreal because I am a chritian, because the same God that created Isreal and the whole world is my God also, because God says that we are to bless Isreal, and many other reasons. I read some of these comments that were anti Isral and all I can say for you is God save your souls. Isreal is the most important part of this nations future and Isreal is the main focal point in Bible prophacy. I support isreal and pray for that nation every night and my family does also. God's covenent never ended for Isreal for God said I will bring you back to your homeland. Yes they did turn there face from God several times in the bibnle and for that God spread them all over the world. The Jews did not kill Jesus for god said I will give my life for ransom. He allowed them to hang him on that cross for our sins, even for you people who calls the bible horse manuer. The bible is not that and one day when you stand in judgement you will find out. We must support Isreal and stand by her. I love Isreal and her people. God bless Isreal and her supporters.

In my previous post, I meant to say, "Palestinian". As reported in Focus on Jerusalem by Darrell G. Young, 6/2006,
First, let us clarify who the "Palestinians" really are. The notion of a modern distinct "Palestinian people" with a language, culture and nationality of its own, is a creation of Yasser Arafat and his notorious PLO, in unison with the Arab League, and nurtured by the surrounding Arab nations and world media, after the ignominious Arab defeat in the 1967 war with Israel. The modern so-called "Palestinian people" are, in reality, a mixture of Arabs whose mother tongue is Arabic, whose religion is Islam, and whose culture is shared by most of the 22 surrounding Arab countries. There simply is not nor has there ever been a distinct Palestinian national entity. The term “Palestinian” has historically applied to anybody living in area, even Jews.

I support Israel and believe that it is vital for the United States to support Israel as a valid, independent, Democratic nation, because it is a nation who values its' citizens, and has great respect for the nations of the world. This is a nation whose soldiers still, after so much provocation, still will not fire upon religious structures or private homes, unlike their opponents, because they refuse to risk taking innocent lives, even when there is fire coming from these locations. They send their peacekeeping soldiers into protest with paint guns, only to be ripped open and desecrated in front of the rabid crowds. The people of Israel have made concession after concession in an attempt to appease the nations which desire their destruction, in valiant efforts to give the nations who hate them opportunity to understand that they only want to live peacefully, to make the deserts green, as they have always done, and to have the land that is their inheritance long before there ever was such a thing as "Palestine".

We must stand with Israel, we need them as they need us.

Some observers conclude that the Christian right's support of Israel is biblical. The Bible teaches us that "those who bless" Israel will "be blessed." Time after time, this is an attempt to scare Israelis away from the Christian right. I do not want to take away from the deep spiritual significance of Israel in the hearts of Christians. Yet, to say that religious belief is the sole reason Christian conservatives support Israel is inaccurate. This is not about converting the Jewish people or the end times. -- JS

This kind of denialism reminds me of when the Discovery Institute claims that Intelligent Design isn't a religious idea only to have less clued-in Christian public school board members attempt to teach that Jesus designed our brains. You can deny that Christian support for Israel has no significant connection to the Bible and end times theology until you're blue in the face, but many of your fellow Christians posting here subvert that effort with about every third comment or so. This is why I don't trust most evangelicals any further than I could toss John Hagee.

Are there any secular protagonists of Israel or the supporters of Israel only the bible thumping Christians. Who cannot muster two sentences supporting Israel, without appealing that must, vile tome called bible? Is it possible that the early Jews made up that nonsense that they are the chosen people of the god? I am amazed how the people of 21st century lap up the horse manure. Not one has given me a reason for their support without appealing to horse manure from the bible.

ISRAEL has the right to exsist and are, it is amazing they are still, after all who have tried to destroy them. God is with ISRAEL and with those who bless her. Israel is close to God's Heart and that is where I want to be... I love you Isreal!!!

The children of God shall dance in the streets of the New Jerusalem !!!

Peace is coming to the earth (Is. 14:5-7) except spiritual Babylon (Rev. 17) & at that time the Lord’s “Remnant” will be brought to Israel & become very prosperous. This end time Remnant are those who are spiritual descendants of Abraham & are those who are in Christ (this is “all” who are Spirit led – Gen. 17:8; Ezek. 47:22-23; Gal 3:29; Eph. 3:6). God will protect the state of Israel because of His covenant with Abraham & Joseph to bring the end time Remnant back (Is. 41:8; Zech. 10:6). (NASV) This is one of the reasons that Christians are connected with the Jews.

It is imperative that we support the only country of democracy in the entire region. We assisted in placing them there and we have a responsibility to ensure their place in the world. Go there, look around, and see the many practicing religions in such a small area beside judsim - because it is Israel, all are free to worship - no other surrounding country would ever allow that to occur. If you follow the media's take on that area, you are so jaded - walk in their country and then comment.

I had asked this question about a week ago. Do you support the proposition that Zoroastrians should be allowed to migrate back to Persia and be given the rights to form a Zoroastrian nation there? If YES elaborate, if NO elaborate. See how it squares with your support for Israel. This is not to say that Israel should be dissolved, hardly. It will give you a perspective to solve the the problem.

“The Christian right stands with Israel because Israel stands for the same values we cherish so deeply - democracy, freedom, and sovereignty.”

Hogwash!
I like this author and those who agree with him to explain how those high sounding abstract statements of democracy, freedom and sovereignty have functioned singularly and /or jointly to displace over 5 million people from their homelands and condemned them to a miserable existence in refugee camps for over 60 years so far? You who claim to be Christians: Where had Christ preached that the strong trample on the weak?

I just don't understand where people's logic is. Israel is the only democracy in that area, the only one that can truly be counted as a friend of this country, yet it is our country who is trying to shove peace down the throat of Israel, at any cost. How does one make peace with people who don't want it? There is not one living Palestinian who would dare put his name to a peace treaty with Israel that basically did not call for the total elimination of the state of Israel. Even Arafat knew that. When will obama and his crew get that?

So many who haven't paid attention. The unquestioned support of Israel is not in the best interest of the U.S. Israel has deceived us many times, taking advantage of our friendship at the expense of the Palestinians who were chased off their land and keeping peace from happening.

Don't believe the Israeli fables.

Many Jews know better.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7144824386679216957#

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

I'm an evangelical christian over 20 yrs. I have not had any interest in Israel my whole life until the Lord had begun to put Israel on my heart in prayer 1 year ago. Not only did the Lord God put Israel and Jerusalem in my prayer time, I had also fast for over 7 months for the first time for Jerusalem. During my fast, I had received some import insights from God concerning Israel, and my eyes began to open up how valuable this country is globally.Israel is the backbone, and if our country does not support it, we are accountable due to the fact our nation was founded on the same God Israel has. There is favor in God's eyes when you go out of your way and support Israel. It is a revelational country that begins with the Lord and ends with Him. It is something we all a human race must understand, and can not deny. During the past, the God of Israel has put accountability on there actions towards Him, and historical facts show it. The same thing applies to our nation. even if you do not agree in God or not it still applies, because our founding for-fathers had set that foundation.A foundation can not ever be up rooted know matter how many generations go by. That rule will always apply. I must say, I fell in love with this wonderful country I have never seen. In away, I already have threw prayer. One thing God did show me threw my year in fasting for Israel is pray for peace and the unity of Israel. This country holds a global effect in future engagements that will effect all nations freedom and democracy. All I can say, is you do not have to pray a long prayer for Israel. Just pray for peace, protection, and unity. This God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the same one of Israel is the same one of our own nation, and a prayer does not come back void from His throne.

Dena

It's imperative that Israel be protected. It has the right to protect itself from those who mean it harm. I agree with the above "Israel's enemies are our enemies; Israel's fight is our fight. If a line has to be drawn, then let it be drawn around both of us: Christians and Jews, Americans and Israelis." I'm glad Israel is our ally. We are a Judeo-Christian nation. I am a Christian because of Christ being a Jew. No apologies and no revisionist history. Israel became a sovereign nation in the late 40s by a decree of many nations. Those nations should continue to support Israel and those decisions -- especially in light of the need to defend one's self against terrorists.

The Covenant With Israel And God was an Eternal One. God made it plain in the Bible, They could Not lose their covenant EVER. So I support Israel by way of saying, They are God's chosen People. But as you've seen. They don't start wars. They only try to protect themselves. The Main issue is "They deserve to control their Land" "They deserve to defend it" "If Non-Israeli's don't comply, they should be shipped out"!!! Kind of like Illegals here in the USA Should be dealt with. Except they are different in that some Non-Israeli's feel they should be given their own rights to be against Israel. In any other Countries book, That just wouldn't Happen. So why don't we just agree that Israel should have the right to protect their own freedom. Why Doesn't the world allow it. Because "GOD" is Their God, The world Does not Like that! What I see Happening is the tension will build, and God will have to come back and fix it. But I imagine the world will have some Other guy make a piece Treaty First, then he will claim to be God. Watch and See!

I support Israel God's chosen people! This nation was built on, "In God We Trust". An enemy of Israel is an enemy of the United States. America wake up. God gave our country to us to pursue the freedom of worship. Our fore fathers prayed for America and ask for guidance on how to govern our beautiful nation. Israel and America have always held hands and walked the road of faith together.

ever since jesus was born the devil and tactic's tryed ever thing in his power to do away with the jew's . and nailed jesus to the cross. and this is satan's way of trying to getting rid of jewish people.by having the enemy which is to get these other country's to threaten isiral. i belive as christian's we should stand withisiral.i donot trust the president or any thing he say's.

ever since jesus was born the devil and tactic's tryed ever thing in his power to do away with the jew's . and nailed jesus to the cross. and this is satan's way of trying to getting rid of jewish people.by having the enemy which is to get these other country's to threaten isiral. i belive as christian's we should stand withisiral.i donot trust the president or any thing he say's.

Though I do see Israel as being the strongest democracy in the Middle East, (with some hope the Iraq may also follow suit), their claim as God's chosen people was relinquished when the chose not to follow Christ, who freed them from their law. What's more, they have broken many of their longstanding covenants with God and today follow a new Rabbinistic tradtion, which is not at all the covenant of the Old Testement. As such, it seems that Evangelicals who support Jews do so for the wrong reason, as any link to Judeo-Christain doctrine was broken long ago. Still, I do support Israel as a "paid" friend of the US, meaning we send them heaps of dollars for their alligiance. I wonder how much they would support the US if it wasn't for the yearly payout. Likewise, our other strongest supporter, England, always seeks "practical" tribution for unwavering support, practical meaning trade advantages. So, yes, England and Israel are our allies, but we pay for that. And Israel may deserve our support for some reasons, but not any religious reason.

I support Israel and the Jewish people there, not because I am an evangelical Christian, but because I am also of Jewish descent. I share a bond, physically and spiritually, with the Jewish people and the Land of Israel. I also support Israel and the Jewish people because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! The Jewish people have suffered enough from anti-Semitism over the last two millenia. It has been less than a generation since the holocaust, where 6 million Jews were known to have been killed by the Nazis. Yet, anti-Semitism is raising its ugly head again worldwide. Haven't the Jewish people suffered enough? Why do the nations want to continue to hate on the Jews and make them suffer continually. The nations even want to deprive them of the tiny sliver of land that they have now, their only true refuge from the ugliness and evil of anti-Semitism. They are now able to defend themselves from the evil of Jew-hatred that emanates from the hearts of their enemies. The fact that the Jews can now defend themselves and are no longer relegated to being like sheep to be led to the slaughter seems to be offensive to the nations. Evangelical support for Israel is under attack in America. Leftist anti-Semitic and anti-Israel groups(Leftist Democrats)are trying to penetrate and neutralize this support by portraying the Palestinians as victims of Israeli aggression rather than what the truth really is. I prayerfully hope the Evangelical Community in America will not be so easily swayed and will use discernment in dealing with these people. These people have been deluded by the Palestinian propaganda machine and their media allies. G-d truly means what He says and says what He means in Genesis 12:3 that He will bless those who bless the descendants of Abraham and He will curse those who curse them. You can look back through history to see this played out against nations and people who came against the nation of Israel and the Jewish people where ever they were found.

Halleluiah for a wonderful article. I praise God for your parents. They raised you and Jay to be after the heart of God. I will always love Isarel, because I believe in God's word. For those who taunt Israel have not read the battle belongs to the Lord.

True Believer

We should support Israel not only because we would like to be blessed by God but also because Israel is the only true friend that we have in the Middle East.

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And Muslims globally are burgeoning consumers of American products enriching American businesmen into financial contributions towards Israel too....

God bless American Christian, evangelical, constitutional conservatives and Teabaggers and whatever else they call themselves.

Good night guys. I am "true consumer" of many American products and services.:)

Israel is one of America's few allies who can defend herself. So why are we not wanting her to do just that? To say "We're glad you can defend yourself against terror -- now don't!" is completely asinine!
Who are we, America, to think we have a right to tell Israel what they can or can not do. If terrorists were attacking us and we were looking for allies I guarantee Israel would help us. Please! To even have such a discussion is beneath us when Israel has been such a long time ally to us! It would be like turning our back on the U.K. God Forbid!

Israel is our very good friend and ally in the Middle East. Israel represents those ideals we here in American uphold such as Democracy and Freedom. I agree with the article and hope our current administration will change its course and also support Israel.

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Friends that don't listen nor respect one another? And the friends not being able to take "criticisms" from one another?

Israel as a "beacon of democracy and freedom in the Middle East" is an "effective" partner of America to bring freedom and democracy there, in leadership by example or by harsher means such as conflicts and wars?

If any nation talks about its "special relationship" with another nation, there is no room for objectivity and impartiality by both nations. The relationship becomes driven by emotional and unrealistic expectations.

We should support Israel not only because we would like to be blessed by God but also because Israel is the only true friend that we have in the Middle East.

Good article.As friend of Israel I would like to draw your attention to following.Everytime the governement of Israel is offended by the US governement something bad happens, eg the BP oil disaster after the offending of prime minister Netanjahu by president Obama.The breaking of the wrist of mss Clinton.The reveiling of the adultry by her husband after he put pressure on Israel etc etc.Many other examples can be given.
Is this blessing or curse?

Israel's fight is our fight. If a line has to be drawn, then let it be drawn around both of us: Christians and Jews, Americans and Israelis."

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Against whom? PLO? Hamas? Iran? Or the "fight" is Judeo-Christendon/America-Israel against the whole Muslim world?

I stand for Israel, we all should! This is God's land and His choosen people. He calls them the "apple of His eyes". We are their sister land ( America ) and if we were to ever turn our backs on them, God would lift His protection that is currently over our land. Scripture warns us over and over, however like everything else in life... Many chose NOT to pay attention to the warnings, I am only one person but together we are many and we as a Christian Nation should know better and we can change the bad!! God Bless.

When the leadership of Israel fails to do the will of God we need to make the leadership aware of the error of their ways, but otherwise we need to support this island of freedom in the middle east.

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Israelis and their leaders are quite independent folks. They are not going to just do the bidding of any nation or anyone not in their national interest.

And the "will of God" is by Jewish or Christian interpretion and notions?

Israel is our very good friend and ally in the Middle East. Israel represents those ideals we here in American uphold such as Democracy and Freedom. I agree with the article and hope our current administration will change its course and also support Israel.

As mentioned they are the greatest Democracy in the middle east and for that alone they deserve our support,but also most middle east countries goals are to "wipe Israel off the face of the earth.Sound fimiliar?The Prez of Iran?But the are not content with just Israel but call the US the great "Satan"!and want to do away with us as well.

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And how is Ahmadinejad/Iran going to "wipe" out Israel? By nuking Israel? The nuclear fall out would affect Palestinians too. Not politically savvy nor prudent of Ahmadinejad/Iran posturing as "defenders" of Palestinians. Besides, Israel have more than a 100 nukes. So it was claimed and which Israel never pulicly claimed otherwise.

Greatest democracy in the Middle East, birth pangs of the new Middle East, America the Great Satan; Muslims the Antichrists; Iran, Iraq and North Korea the Axis of Evil...so the blustering talk goes in east and west for domestic and global consumption to the easily misled and led to mistaken actions upon false premises and assumptions.

The people of Israel are God's chosen people because of Abraham's faith. God will not bless any nation who opposes God's people. Let us as Americans support the nation of Israel in order to do the right thing and to be blessed by God. The opposite of a blessing is a curse. I would prefer America be blessed. When the leadership of Israel fails to do the will of God we need to make the leadership aware of the error of their ways, but otherwise we need to support this island of freedom in the middle east.

Though i am a person of the Christian faith,there is addtional information why i support Israel.As mentioned they are the greatest Democracy in the middle east and for that alone they deserve our support,but also most middle east countries goals are to "wipe Israel off the face of the earth.Sound fimiliar?The Prez of Iran?But the are not content with just Israel but call the US the great "Satan"!and want to do away with us as well.But most people are so consumed with the things of this world that they don't have a clue what's going on under their noses!!Wake up America!!!

I love Israel because God loves Israel. Israel is God's Nation just as America is Christ's nation.

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Oh, God' Nation and Christ's Nation now on top of the Kingdom of God and the Promised Land? Which is which?

So, God is head of state and head of government of Israel, God's Nation.

I look forward to the new formal designation of Israel as the "Israeli Nation of God" and America as the "United Christian States of America".

I support Israel because I believe they are the people of the Bible. They are also the most educated nation in the world with an average IQ significantly higher than that of any other nation. Israel also looks after its own and isn't sponging off foreign aid. To whatever extent the nations welcome Jews amongst them those nations get blessed. I could go on but by now I'm sure you get my drift.

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Aye, I got your drift....

Let us not support those folks not mentioned in the Bible, including Buddhists, Hindus, Flat Earthers..

Let us only support countries where its citizens have IQs of 170 and above only.

And the US do give aid to Israel. Ask your congressman.

I love Israel because God loves Israel. Israel is God's Nation just as America is Christ's nation. Israel is where Christ will reign from and the Holy Temple mount is GOD"S!. God chose the Jews as custodian of Israel and it is their land period. People can and do argue with God but He sits on His trone and laughs and there is a price to pay for it. God said He will curse those who curse Israel and I am glad I won't be in their shoses come Judgement. I also pray that they will come to their senses before it is to late.

God Bless Israel and America.

I agree with Hagee:
Israel's fight is our fight. If a line has to be drawn, then let it be drawn around both of us: Christians and Jews, Americans and Israelis."

As a Christian conservative I take the bible seriously. To call myself on God's side and turn away from His people, would be a mistake. Don't believe me? well dont argue. Reasearch... since Israel has become a nation again. Look at everytime we pushed them into giving in to anyone who wanted to wipe them out... what has happened to the US economy? So is it coincedental? or is it God's promises being made true in this day and age? We defend our country with pride, yet we interfere with Israel doing the same(or dont back them up whole heartedly)? Think about our most recent conflicts overseas. Do you buy the party line that it was about oil? look at this for a second and think. Could they have been people who were outright against Israel? Why do we strike out at these countries? Israel will not be so nice about defending itself. Nor should Israel be forced to. Start reading your history books instead of listening to a political party. If nothing more, support Israel because it is right and we will not prosper till we do.

"Israel" the apple of God's eye!
I love and bless her for these are God's Chosen people...The prophecy's are being fulfilled right before our very eye's...One being "All nations will come against Israel" Looks like Obama is bringing that one to pass. The blind lead the blind.
Our almighty and powerful God, please have mercy on America in Jesus holy name!

Fantastic Article!

I support Israel because I believe they are the people of the Bible. They are also the most educated nation in the world with an average IQ significantly higher than that of any other nation. Israel also looks after its own and isn't sponging off foreign aid. To whatever extent the nations welcome Jews amongst them those nations get blessed. I could go on but by now I'm sure you get my drift.

Israel is God's land. America is a Judeo- Christian country although the insane Obama would have you believe that it is not. We support Israel here in the states, Mr. Obama. Where have you been? Off in Muslim, Socialism, Communism land. Why don' you just go there then, Mr. Obama and leave us the ---- alone? We all know that is what you dream about constantly. Your hopes and dreams are NOT ours.

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And I had thought the the whole world is God's land and we are temporary occupants of it.

And I wonder why God forget to promise and designate America as a Christian or Judeo-Christian nation.

And I had thought too that America is a Christian nation by the assertion of evangelicals, constitutional conservative, Teabaggers etc.

And where in the US Constitution or Establishment clause that America is a Judeo-Christian nation? Or American Founding Fathers asserting it as such?

Your American President is also making nice with Hindu and Buddhist majority nations for the benefit of all Americans.

Pssstt...don't let on globally that America is a Judeo-Christian nation. Some of my fellow Muslims may have the warped idea to ask America take all Israelis to the Judeo-Christian country that is America.

WE MUST PROTECT ISRAEL AT ALL COST, THEY ARE OUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE, ISRAEL SENDS THEIR CHILDREN INTO HARMS WAY EVERY DAY, SO WE CAN REST COMFORTABLY HERE IN AMERICA, WE OWE ISRAEL A DEBT OF GRATITUDE FOR BEING OUR ALLY IN THESE TIMES OF UNREST, PRAY FOR PEACE IN ISRAEL!

Israel is God's land. America is a Judeo- Christian country although the insane Obama would have you believe that it is not. We support Israel here in the states, Mr. Obama. Where have you been? Off in Muslim, Socialism, Communism land. Why don' you just go there then, Mr. Obama and leave us the ---- alone? We all know that is what you dream about constantly. Your hopes and dreams are NOT ours.

Whether we want to admit it or not, Israel's signifigance to America and the world goes far above political and geographical discusssions.

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That would be Israel's "significance" to the US and the "western world",but not quite to India, China and most African states. They treat their relations with Israel as they do with Greece or Ireland or Ukraine or Nepal or North Korea or Venezuela.

In my mind, if you eliminate all the side issues, one thing remains: Israel, for over half a century, has been defending itself from enemies sworn to bring about its extinction. Those are the ones who should be prosecuted in the world court.

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Do all Americans really support the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for getting those who commit crimes against humanity (the ICC) and international resolutions of disputes between states (the ICJ)?

Excellent. We MUST stand with Israel at all times- no ifs, ands,or buts.
Keep up the great work, you guys!

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The American economy and taxpayers can continue to sustain that?

How to reduce debt? Scrimp on health care, but increase on defence, and expand economy on sales of military hardware?

Oh, that would include a recent USD 60 billion military hardware sales to Saudi Arabia. A sworn enemy of Israel or a strategic ally of the US?

In my mind, if you eliminate all the side issues, one thing remains: Israel, for over half a century, has been defending itself from enemies sworn to bring about its extinction. Those are the ones who should be prosecuted in the world court.

Excellent. We MUST stand with Israel at all times- no ifs, ands,or buts.

Keep up the great work, you guys!

Why is this piece of land so important? Why has Israel survived against all odds? Why? Answer that, and we all have something to talk about that's relevant.
Certainly, we have given our word as the U.S., and they are a fellow democracy, but that's is not the end of it. In my opinion, it's only the beginning.

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Ever heard of this Arab cliche - The European solution has become a Middle East problem?

Supporting Israel politically and emotionally is good for the minds and souls of those whose countries and ancestors perpetrated the greatest acts and crimes against Jews.

Salvation through redemption by way of unconditional, unstinting and unqestioning financial, military and political support will salve the guilt of past centuries? Or is Israel and Israelis being made into cannon fodder for Armageddon?

I find it reprehensible that both Israelis and Palestinians are still being used as pawns in religious-cultural-ideological east-west Christian-Muslim us vs them proxy wars. The Israelis and Palestinians are casualties.

I would like to commend Jordan for his defense of Isreal. I feel that it is necessary to remind those who hate Isreal of the fate of ALL empires who have decided to call for the Jewish peoples destruction. Your fate will be the same as them. God has promised to NEVER let any nation, peoples, or madman defeat her. Let that be a warning to those who think otherwise.

Whether we want to admit it or not, Israel's signifigance to America and the world goes far above political and geographical discusssions. Many places where Jesus walked, wept, taught, was betrayed and ultimately ascended to Heaven are in Israel. As a boy, I was told of these places and how only the darkest of souls are not moved when they visit these areas, a testament to Jesus' mighty presence still. It is comforting to me to know that Jesus' presence in my life rises above political and economical concerns of the world. What it comes down to is this: Hamas and Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations and their sponsors want to wipe Israel off the face of the planet not just to destroy our closest ally. They want to destroy the places where Jesus, God incarnate, set foot on the Earth. And they believe that if they destroy the places where Jesus walked, prayed, taught, was betrayed and ultimately ascended to Heaven, then they have destroyed God. And the sad thing is, their hearts are darkened so much that they don't even realize that it's never going to happen.

I guess you can't argue with people who believe that the Israelites are God's chosen people so they're free to take whatever land they need and push out whoever is getting in the way of fulfilling their prophecy. But, I have to ask, how is that any different than what the fundamentalist muslim terrorists are doing? They're the chosen people as far as they're concerned.

I agree that it's important to have an example of a democracy in the middle east, but we don't have to align ourselves with Israel at all costs and simply throw human rights out of the window. Israel has illegally occupied another country, (as recognized by the UN, EU, and most of the international community), restricted their movement, their right to work, given them no vote, built roads that only Jews can use, and a whole host of other offenses that come with prolonged occupation of a foreign country. I don't understand how people can say that Palestine should just give up because Israel is not leaving? Should France have just given up during WWII when Germany came to town? To me, it just defies logic. (and it factually defies International Law).

After Israel claimed territories in Palestine, the UN issued a resolution (242) reaffirming the illegality of acquiring territories by war. The resolution required that ISrael abandon the territories it is illegally occupying. This hasn't happened, and Israel continues to violate international law and oppress the people living under its occupation. Shouldn't our focus be more on Human Rights and individual people, rather than on the fulfillment of a prophecy, or the need to align ourselves with a democracy in the Middle East, who is probably only making terrorist groups (like Hamas) hate us more?

I think we should support Israel insofar as they're running a democratic nation that respects international law. However, while they're continuing to occupy a foreign nation, restricting their freedom, and probably fueling terrorism, and I think we need to keep our distance.

Thank you ACLJ for standing with Israel. All Christians should be taking this into account during this election time. We have to make our voice heard and we cannot be the silent majority any more. We are supposed to support Israel. The politicians that are anti-Israel and anti-family is your clue to who not to vote for.

When the ACLJ appears in defense of Israel's position at the International Criminal Court, we are standing, not as attorneys for the Christian right, but as defenders of one of the world's greatest functioning democracies.

The people of Israel know that their single largest group of supporters, based on raw numbers, is the evangelical movement in the United States and abroad. We are proud to serve as Ambassadors of Israel so long as Israel requests our service.

I have one question for non-evangelicals. When will you join us?

- Jordan Sekulow

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Mr. Sekulow doing religious evangelising? Or seeking political support for Israel? And most certainly both.

By the way, Mr. Sekulow, a couple of your essays back asking Muslims to "join" to condemn Iran, was that at the request of Israel and you so as a "service" to them?

"World's greatest functioning democracy"?
A functioning democracy can be dysfunctional with competing factions and coalitions forced to form to have a government, especially in Parliamentary systems with multiple political parties, including in Israel and the Netherlands.

Should one worry when folks like Sarah Palin, has on her desk, has one flag, which is not American, but that of another country? How does this square with her "American patriotism"?

Thank you for your invitation to join evangelicals, which I take it to mean the invitation is extended only to Americans.

Some of us are neither Christians nor evangelicals nor constitutional conservatives nor Americans. Some of us see things differently from Armageddon-laced evangelicals such as Pat Robertson and the ACLJ.

I just love the constitutional conservatives. Old wine in new bottle. And thanks for educating us on where the ACLJ are coming from and why. Another reason to be wary of American "objectivity" and "impartiality" in the Middle East peace initiatives and process, perhaps.

It's amazing to me that if any other country in the world was attacked the UN would stand up and cry "FOUL, FOUL." However, if Israel is attacked and actually has the courage to defend themselves, the UN and the world say that Israel is the aggressor! If you just think through that, you have to conclude there is something else at play here. If you ran the same scenario with Russia, the comments would be much different.

This is a very, very small country, yet it is constantly at the forefront of international debate? Why? This is a small, small country and yet there is tremendous financial, military and scientific success. Why?

Why is this piece of land so important? Why has Israel survived against all odds? Why? Answer that, and we all have something to talk about that's relevant.

Certainly, we have given our word as the U.S., and they are a fellow democracy, but that's is not the end of it. In my opinion, it's only the beginning.

Great article that needs to be read by every American. We MUST stand by Israel! God Bless America and Israel.

Israel is near and dear to my heart. God Bless ACLJ for standing up for our BEST true friend, Israel.

We must stand with Israel and lend them the support they need during this cruicial time, when it seems that even our present administration does not have their best interests at heart.

As Israel goes, so goes the USA. We will not be silenced. God Bless Israel. Special thanks to Jordan Sekulow for all he does.

Lets forget the theology. You have two peoples reaching for an areas resources. One side has on a consistent basis out numbered surprised attacked and have a genocide policy on the other. Now you want to cooperate with these people (muslims) on to leaning down and bareing the neck for the chop otherwise you are islamicphobic. Look at history look now at dearborn. Now who do think deserves our help and who deserves our derision to make up your mind read El-quran then read the Torah (original arabic or farsai) not a english translation the Torah translates the same in several languages so they have nothing to hide read and learn.

Israel has bought a barren land and turned it into an agricultural wonder, growing crops under impossible conditions. They do not attack their enemies. They defend themselves. Hamas is a lying terrorist group trying to gain control of Israel, even though Israel provides great medical care, even to their professed enemies. Israel is also outstanding in inventions, mfg, etc. Hamas redisplays dead people and blames Israel for killing them, along with using the civilian population to defend their attacks.

Isreal should have every right the same as we in the US. We don't give the rule of this country back to the Indians, we accept them and require them to be law abiding. We don't invite the taliban to have half of Washington DC and half of our country, if they promise not more terror evn tough they continue to say they want to destroy us!
We don't give Texas, New Mexico, Californis etc back to Mexico...even though this and other administrations are not enforcing our laws of borders!

It is well-said that we should stand with Israel (not Isreal) because they are a democracy, not because of a misinterpreted Biblical blessing. The Israel that is God's chosen people is NOT the political state currently known as Israel. True Israel is made of those who follow the Messiah, Jesus Christ. It has nothing to do with race. If you don't believe me, then why are Gentiles like Ruth and Rahab counted in their number? Please support Israel for the right reasons, not because of some (heretical IMO) interpretation of Revelation which proposes a second method of salvation (being a Jew).

God's chosen people? Why would an all-powerful deity create a whole planet full of people, and then choose one group of desert-dwellers to be his favorites?
Let's face it, lots of religions believe that they are their chosen god's/gods' favorite people.

America stands by Israel because we have treaties in place wherein we promised to do so.

Is the ACLJ going to support the building of some 600 homes in the West Bank since the Israeli government ban expired last month?

Evangelical or Constitutional Conservative or Teabagger Ambassador for Israel best leave the "diplomacy" and "quest for peace" between Israelis and Palestinians to the Israelis and Palestinians with nudging from the American Administration and the Quartet etc.

Methinks, having read the Constitutional Conservative "Manifesto" (if we can call it that) before, their agenda and priorities are not quite in line with the American Constitution and international laws. Nor do they have quite comprehensive grasp of them.

Anyway, while in the Netherlands, the Constitutional Conservatives can form strategi alliances with the recently formed Dutch coalition government comprising of Dutch right wing parties such as Christian Democrats and Freedom Party.

Don't forget to sit down with Geert Wilder in a Dutch brown cafe set in an area with legalised brothels and drugs to discuss the right wing international agenda.

If there is time, don't forget to sample the Dutch raw herrings with onions too. Delicious.

It's alarming to see our own president turning against our oldest and truest friend; Isreal.

As a nation, we come from the same root as Israel, and share the same values. That is why it is called the "Judeo-Christian ethic". It has also been pointed out and proved by various authors, that what you do to Israel happens to you, individually or as a nation. We have allowed the terrorists access to Israel and terrorism and the Muslims (which is not a religion, but a political agenda that is one-sided only and contrary to freedom) are on the rise in the US. Katrina happened right after Bush allowed a number of the Israelis to become displaced from their homes.

I agree. Let us stand with Israel in the fight for freedom.

I love how succint your columns are, Jordan. There are several reasons why we must defend Israel. The obvious religious history indicates that the demise of Israel would only be the beginning of a holocaust of gigantic proportions. It is being orchestrated by hearts full of pure evil with total disregard for true Judeo-Christian beliefs. Christians and Jews have illustrated that with respect and loyalty we can live side by side. Jews must unite and recognize that their very futures and that of Israel depends upon strength and show of convictions. The threats against freedom and peace are very real. The impact of actions being suggested are not even being disguised, the aggresors have no intention of being defeated. We need to wake up and realize that the USA and Israel are targets... No longer can apathy and blind tolerance be acceptable. Don't let history repeat itself; what is life without the possibility of living uninslaved, or knowing terror each morning when we awake?

Contrary to what our current administration may believe we MUST support Isreal because they are the only true democratic republic in the middle east. Every other country is a monarchy or a dictatorship with decidely bad designs planned for the United States of America

I agree we should stand for Israel. If we don't and should the enemies go after her, then America would be next in line. As someone said above, if we bless Israel, then we will be blessed. So lets bless Israel so we can obtain the favor of God on our lives, bless Her not just because it is a command from the Lord, but because God also loves Israel. We, who love God, love Israel and we need to also love our enemies. Lets us pray for Israel and America.

Israel is the ONLY true democracy in the middle east, our MOST trustworthy ally in the whole wide WORLD, and it has been fighting against Islamic terrorism (jihad) before we here in America even KNEW what terrorism even WAS! We MUST support Israel with ALL our heart, because its fight is our fight too, and if Israel ever falls to jihad (God forbid), then guess what, WE'RE NEXT and NOBODY will stand with us like Israel does!

"those who bless" Israel will "be blessed."

Excellent article. Iam an Indian Christian and Iam much concerned about the security of the Israelities. I feel it is the duty of every christians to support the Jewish cause and protect the promised land from its enemies.

Thank you, Jordan, for your well thought out article. The attacks against Israel are unrelenting. Are we going to stand by and do nothing while a law abiding and democratic society is attacked on multiple fronts from around the world?

Keep up the good work, Jay and Jordan.

The article is right on - Israel has been accused of terrorism - but the whole truth is never displayed with that allegation - from its beginning and before anti-Semitism has been practiced by Muslims - they even cooperated with the Nazis - Israel is are only real ally in that part of the world - we should let Israel do what she has to do to survive - and not dictate to her.

Thank you, Jordan, for writing what needs to be said. A true democracy in the Middle East, a loyal ally and friend, Israel needs our support and loyalty. Having visited there, I saw firsthand their hard work to make the country beautiful and productive, and their sincere desire for peace with their neighbors. GO visit and love it as I have.

A very timely article and well written. Thanks Jordan. I support Israel because they stand for freedom and democracy. To not support Israel is foolish.

I support of Israel because the Bible teaches us that "those who bless" Israel will be blessed. Israel is God’s chosen nation. There is no way to get around that. I stand with Israel because Israel stands for the same values we cherish so deeply - democracy, freedom, and sovereignty. Israel is not only America's most important ally in the Middle East; it is our greatest ally in the world. I am committed to supporting Israel because Israel, a fellow democracy, has asked for our help. We, as a nation, should be standing as defenders of one of the world's greatest functioning democracies.

I believe Isreal is our friend.They are not a threat to anyone.But if provoked they will/should defend themselves..They are Gods chosen people. I believe if you stand with Isreal then you stand with God...May the good Lord Bless you Jay and give you HIS wisdom while at the Hague...

Our nation is blessed because we have always supported the Jewish people and Israel for years up until now. Now we are trying to persuade them to give up part of their land for Peace and seem to support them less and less every day. Will God judge us for this action?

In Genesis 12:2-3, God is speaking to Abraham. “I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”

WE AS A NATION SHOULD TAKE GREAT HEED TO THIS VERSE.

As for judging the the U.S.A., there are those who link the "natural" disasters we’ve already suffered with periods of time when we were trying to get Israel to give up land. "Their findings defy coincidence. The conclusion can only be that the judgment has already begun."

As a nation of diverse peoples founded upon Christian principles originally seeking Independence from the bondage of England, we should be able to empathize with the Israelite slaves fleeing Egypt. We must faithfully defend Israel with all of our Might and do so without hesitation, for the nation of Israel is a blessed land chosen by God for "His people." We must not only stand up for them, but be willing to fight for them with our very lives -and do so gladly knowing that "God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is on our side."

Thank You Jay, from my heart to yours, this resolution needs to be finished, I Pray You an those with you accomplish what needs to be done, the critical point here is that there are many that would love to watch Israel fall, although Israel has made some choices that havent been in her favor I realize they were goaded into them from outside provocation, All My Prayers to Your Success

Israel should be protected against any threats to its liberty and sovereignty. It's so called "occupied territories" are really recaptured territories. We as a nation should support israel based on right or wrong not what a corrupt multinational organization determines.

Excellent Article. America is a young country. It's prosperity is good evidence of God's blessings. I absolutely believe "those who bless" Israel will "be blessed." The current administration's anti-Israel concerns me. It even scares me whether this administration is an anti-Christ in disguise.

Isreal, the Jewish nation, are God's chosen people. God CHOSE them, of all the nations he CHOSE Isreal to bless and protect. As a Christian, a child of God, I want to wholeheartedly stand with my Brothers & Sisters of the Jewish nation! I PRAY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NEVER TURNS ITS BACK ON ISREAL!

Thanks, Jordan. We'll pray for you on this mission. I, for one, would lay down my life for the Jewish people. They ARE God's chose people. I hope all Jews everywhere know that just because the secular, liberal, progressives in the U.S. have turned their backs on them, there are many, many of us who will stand united with Israel.

Jews are God's chosen people. Isaiah 53 tells of the coming Messiah. Many Jews have discovered this very fact that they no longer have to wait for their Messiah for He was revealed in Isaiah 53. God commands us to honor Israel. Scripture bears out the wrath of God to those who do not. America was founded on the Jewish/Christian ethic and this ethic is being eroded by those who want to take us away from the principles of her founding. My prayer is that we will be David and conquer the Goliath of liberalism against Israel and have America turn back to honoring Israel.

Israel is and has been our ally for over 60 years, they are also s democracy in the middle east and a true friend to the USA, only obama, has turned a deaf ear to them,while he bows to the Muslims and lets them have a day of prayer in the white house and cancels our National prayer day that we have been having for years.We cannot turn our baks on them.
Bill

I really enjoyed this article. I agree wholeheartedly.

Excellent article.