Jordan Sekulow
Jordan Sekulow is a human rights attorney and Director of International Operations at the American Center for Law & Justice.

Jordan Sekulow

Jordan Sekulow is a human rights attorney and Director of International Operations at the American Center for Law & Justice.

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In defense of Oklahoma's Sharia ban

This week, Oklahoma's "Save Our State Amendment" is on trial in federal court. The constitutional amendment, passed with the support of 70% of Oklahoma voters, is frequently called the Sharia law ban. Earlier this week, Chief Judge of the Western District of Oklahoma Vicki Miles-LeGrange, a Clinton appointee, extended a temporary restraining order on implementation of the amendment while she considers whether to grant a preliminary injunction. We should receive a decision on the preliminary injunction next Monday

The amendment is not entirely dissimilar from the federal law that made bigamy a crime. In the US Supreme Court's famous Reynolds v. US (1879) case, a law criminalizing bigamy, a heated issue at the time because of the Mormon faith's plural marriage doctrine, was held to be constitutional. Yet, Supreme Court precedent has greatly evolved since 1879 and the Oklahoma amendment will likely have to survive the Court's often criticized Lemon test. Justice Scalia described Lemon, "like some ghoul in a late night horror movie that repeatedly sits up in its grave and shuffles abroad, after being repeatedly killed and buried, Lemon stalks our Establishment Clause jurisprudence."

The Lemon test has three prongs.

"First, the statute must have a secular legislative purpose; second, its principal or primary effect must be one that neither advances nor inhibits religion; finally, the statute must not foster excessive government entanglement with religion."

The State can survive the first prong of the Lemon test by arguing that the amendment was intended to define Oklahoma's legal system and had nothing to do with promoting another religious faith or singling out Islam. The Oklahoma amendment is reaffirming the Constitution's Article VI Supremacy Clause and the laws that govern the state's legal system, a constitutional use of State sovereignty. Of note, the "Save Our State Amendment" also bans courts from considering international law.

Next, the state will have to overcome the "effect" prong. Here, the Lemon test assesses whether a hypothetical objective observer would see the amendment as advancing certain religions or inhibiting Islam. At its core, the amendment has nothing to do with infringing on a Muslim's right to practice Islam or religious freedom generally. This amendment is about "judicial authority," and is not a "demonization" of Islam.

Finally, the State faces the "entanglement" prong. By instructing courts not to, "consider international law or Sharia law" in a case, Oklahoma is actually preventing the judiciary from being entangled in the analysis of Islamic law. Additionally, the "entanglement" clause is only at issue when the government is interacting directly with a religious institution.

Although this amendment is a self-described "pre-emptive strike, " Sharia law is creeping into America's judicial system. This summer, a New Jersey judge held that a Muslim man did not have "criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault" his wife because, "The court believes that [defendant] was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited." There was even an imam brought in to testify generally about a Muslim man's right to demand sex from his wife. By the way, the imam "confirmed that a wife must comply with her husband's sexual demands."

Fortunately and correctly, New Jersey's Appellate Court overruled this judge and called the reasoning "mistaken." Oklahoma is attempting to ensure that a mistake like this will not happen in the future.

The threat of Sharia law is real and the people of Oklahoma are ahead of the curve.

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America is a nation found on judeo christain believes . not under Islam or sharia law its a proven fact that Islam is a satanic religion .
christ came to give life Jesus enemy came to destroy it . Islam represents that same beleive the destruction of life . Americans must take a stand against this religion . and let our judges and politicians know we are a judeo christain nation and not under Islam and sharia.

Posted by: raulpompa | December 5, 2010 9:07 PM
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Greetings to all,

It is obvious that the courts (in the US) weren’t aware or don’t care that the people of this country have decided to retake control of the government from the elite who believe that there will trumps that of “We the People”. The first step has been taken by the overwhelming victory and the redirection of the Federal House of Representatives the next steps are the Senate and the White House followed by the removal of “Activist Judges” from all federal, state and local benches.

There is no question that “Sharia Law” has no place in the judiciary nor jurors prudence of our country therefore it is a mute point to discuss its merits or lack there of. But just to be through, safe and direct I believe that laws similar to that of Oklahoma’s should be adopted in ever single State and at the National level. Let it not be said that the people, government and courts of this land did not make themselves crystal clear in the idea that “Sharia Law” is not nor will not be accepted (EVER) as the law in or of the United States of America.

Have a Blessed Christmas and Joyous New Year!
Remember “He is the reason for the season”.
Jeffry Krotts

Posted by: jeffkrotts | December 4, 2010 8:23 PM
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I see no issue here. It should not matter where you came from; you are to assimilate to our society and he laws of the land. No religion is curtailed by our Constitution. Religious freedom is granted every citizen and immigrant alike. Whenever a religeous practice violates one of our laws it can't be ignored because it is a practice in the individual's homeland and religeon. The immigrant gave up his home to become an American citizen. That means he will obey the laws and edicts of America. That is his duty as a new citizen of OUR country. Why would you come here and expexct to live your old life unchanged? I object to people who came here to raise their country's flag , refuse to learn English and accept our ways. There are no Afro Americans. You can't be both. Your are either an American of African decsnt or you are indeed an African. You may have come from Humgary,but when you became a citizen of The U.S.A., you are an American of hungarian origin. The law should be interpreted the same way. It matters not what the laws and religeon of your abandoned country, you are American NOW. WE will allow you to live in your fashion and practice your religion as lomg as it does not violate the lawsand statutes of our land. I am insulted by this Judge or any judge that does not prefer our law as the only one law of the land. She should be removed from her position and not allowed to ever again serve in that capacity! She is a disgrace to the legal system an an insult to the American way of life.

Posted by: quipper | December 2, 2010 12:11 PM
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The Good News---Galations 3:13 Jesus took our place that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles:

Galations 3:13-14

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, "Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit throuh faith.

The Blessings can be our---through Jesus Christ!

The first thing we must do--to get right with God--is to repent. This applies to us both Individually, and Nationally!

The first thing Jesus began to Preach--is Repentance!!

Matthew 4:17

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

I have shared a prayer that can help lead you to peace with God. Just follow my posts and you will discover it!

Thank you and may God richly bless and keep you!!!

Posted by: zionslion777 | December 1, 2010 7:08 AM
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The Chapter of Deuteronomy Chapter 28 goes over the Blessing and Curses. The first part of this Chapter goes over the Blessings and then from about vs. 15 to verse 68--it goes over the curses.

America was blessed by God and came under the Covenant of Blessing with God--but there is a condition to this Nation God blesses that does His will--they must not go aside from the words that he has commanded to the right hand or the left to go after other gods (sharia law-muslim cult)to serve them. That is in verse 14.

I want to point out a few significant verses in Deuteronmy 28:

Verse 15:

But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

verse 25:

The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

verse 47

Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

verse 48

Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things; and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

verse 49

The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

verse 50

A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young:

verse 58

If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;

Posted by: zionslion777 | December 1, 2010 6:54 AM
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I once lived next door to a middle-eastern family. The father patrolled his home at night and in the early hours of the morning--wearing military clothing--and carrying a big gun. His children once ran to our house at night--as they were terrifyed of their father! The wife of the family later was upset that her children had done that--because it made it harder on her--who had often been beat with a kitchen broom!

Another time, i was trimming a middle-eastern lady's hair. Her ear was completely burned off her. Her husband who was a wealthy middle eastern man had done that to her. She had escaped from him and was in hiding!

Only God Can Help Us!!!!

AMERICA WAKE UP

LET US REPENT OF OUR SINS--AND TURN TO GOD!!!

There is Nuclear talk around the globe....

LET US CRY OUT FOR A NATIONAL REPENTANCE...PERHAPS GOD WILL HAVE MERCY ON US!

Joel 2:12-14

Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:

And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.

Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?

Posted by: zionslion777 | December 1, 2010 6:26 AM
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From Jack Van Impe's Program...

This is from Charles Krauthammer--he is following up on what Jon Voight said:

"There's a reason why the administration's cowardice about identifying those trying to kill us cannot be allowed. It is demoralizing. It trivialized the war between Jihadi barbarism and Western Decency, and diminished the memory of those ...who have died fighting it."

Charles Krauthammer

Posted by: zionslion777 | December 1, 2010 6:10 AM
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Revelation 13:11

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Two horns like a lamb....Could that mean that when he comes into power--he'll say he is a Christian? But what comes out of his mouth is anti-christ?

This headline is from Jack Van Impe's program:

Jon Voight--On the Mike Huckabee Program:

"...President Obama has been cleverly trained in the Alinsky method and it would be very important that every American knows what that method is.

It is a Socialistic, Marxist teaching and with it, little by little, he rapes this nation, taking down our defenses, making new [or suitable] language for the Islamic Extremists..."

Posted by: zionslion777 | December 1, 2010 6:00 AM
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I'm no constitutional lawyer, but try this argument on for size ACLJ: Sharia Law is unconstitutional as Sharia Law is inseparable from the Muslim religion and, as such, for any U.S. government to recognize Sharia law would be tantamount to the establishment of religion by the government. And that, my friends, is unconstitutional.

Posted by: kobayashimaru2 | November 30, 2010 4:26 PM
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The answer is simple: If that Islam law comes to full force in America, then our states will divide themselves and our country will recreate itself as one or more different countries as to purge our land away from that Islam law.

Posted by: now_is_day | November 30, 2010 12:54 PM
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I cannot imagine living under Sharia law, not as a citizen of America, and not as a woman. To be subdued to such an extreme extent in a marriage under Sharia law is something that I feel most American women cannot fully accept, nor comprehend, perhaps because here we have more rights than probably anywhere in the world. For those not familiar with this movie, maybe some would find it enlightening: "Not Without My Daughter" starring Sally Field and Alfred Molina. This film was based on the true life story of Betty Mahmoody, an American citizen who fell in love with a doctor from Iran who came to live and work in America, "Moody" Mahmoody. Once they became a family, Moody persuaded his wife to leave America, and take their daughter to Iran to stay with his family, supposedly temporarily. Once there, and among his own family, his personality changed, and Betty realized that the content life she knew in America was over. Her independent, thoughtful personality became subdued, and she was forced to take on a new persona, dressing and thinking differently, in order to become accepted, and to survive in Iran. Moody told her she could return home after her father died, but that she was to liquidate assets there and return to Iran. Frightened, unable to relinquesh who she really was for the image of the perfect Islam wife, she took their daughter without her husband's permission, risked her life, and was led to safety outside of Iranian borders with their daughter, by concerned Iranian citizens who had secretly befriended her. Had she divorced her husband, by law he would then rightfully have custody of their daughter Mahtob. Not everyone agreed with Betty's actions, nor with the content of this film, including film critics~ American and Iranian, who felt quite strongly about the film, saying that it was unfair to Muslims, painting a prejudiced picture of them as collectively forceful and violent. Yet those Iranians who came to Betty's aid were gentle and caring, non-violent, peaceful, concerned Iranian citizens. One person in movie reviews and related postings claimed that Moody used Sharia law as an excuse to become increasingly abusive with his wife. It certainly makes one think of this American woman's ordeal, and how falling in love with and marrying a man of another faith radically changed her entire life. Once she escaped Iran, and returned home to America, with their daughter, she began to help other women who found themselves feeling trapped, overwhelmed, and terrified, in similar situations. This is the female perspective of an American woman; her Iranian husband no doubt saw things very differently, according to the rights he felt entitled to under Sharia law, and the Islamic faith. Perhaps these two worlds should not collide.. perhaps this cannot be done successfully. A few such unions might have a more positive outcome, but mixing two opposing faiths is a very serious matter.

Irregardless, mixing Sharia law is prohibitive.

Posted by: Jill007 | November 29, 2010 11:25 PM
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I agree with 99% of the above posts. The American citizen has been asleep for some time.. It is time to wake up and start paying attention to what is going on. If we do not start speaking up for our freedoms, we will have none left to speak of.
Islam has been quick to speak out against injustices that they feel they have suffered on our soil, what about the injustices that we have suffered? Please people remember 911, the OK bombings,these injustices that have been brought upon us by the very people us as a nation is bending over backwards to keep happy.
At what point was it that their religious freedoms became more important than mine. Why is it that they can meet for prayer in capitol hill weekly, but in order for my children to pray in school, to God the almighty, I must send them to private christian school. At what point did the American people loose their voice, when is it that we became complacent, and unaware of what is going on in this nation. I must also ask, at what point people are we going to wake up and see the enemy at our back door, waiting to harm you and your family as you sit back, idle and unaware, or choosing to not care.
Bottom line, this is an injustice and if we allow injustices to continue, turning a blind eye, we deserve what we have coming to us.
I pray for mercy on this nation. Because quite frankly, if we don't start doing something, if we don't start putting God back into our country, into our policies, and start electing leaders who fear God almighty, mercy is going to be stretch. God will turn his back on us, just as we as a nation have turned our backs on him.

Posted by: inimitable79 | November 29, 2010 7:07 PM
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FOR ALL THOSE WHOSE TRUST IS IN GOD!!

In the book of Jonah...God calls Jonah to go to Nineveh, and to cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

Has our wickedness come up before God? Abortions. Baby's being murdered legally! Homosexual Marraiges. Calling it "discrimination" to speak against Homosexuality--which God calls, an Abomination! For only a man and a woman can produce a child! That is the blessed way--and must be protected and defended! Sharia Law in America? 911! And then, wanting to erect a mosque right near The World Trade Towers!!! Enough is Enough!

When will we Wake Up--and get on our knees--where our blessing originated in the first place! We need God's help in whom we TRUST!!!!

I'm still TRUSTING IN GOD--How about you?

Jonah ran away from his calling. A whale swalled him up---then Jonah repented and the whale spat him up on shore!

When Jonah obeyed God, Ninevah repented with Prayer, and Fasting....and Ninevah was spared!

It is the same to day! For God is the same yesterday, today and Forever!!! He changes not!!

II Chronicles 7:14

If my people , which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will, forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

There is only ONE WAY TO God--and that is through JESUS CHRIST His Son!!

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus Came to save us from our Sins. Jesus is Coming Soon.

If you want to receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior and have your sins forgiven and be in a position to be blessed by God to stand in the gap for our Nation on our knees in repentance and in humility before a Holy God...then let us pray:

Dear God,

I reckognize that I am a sinner--I and my whole Nation has sinned against you. I ask you to please forgive me and cleanse me of all my sins. I do believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He rose again on the third day. Jesus, I ask you to please come in my heart and save me, heal me and deliver me and fill me with your precious Holy Spirit! Thank you Lord. I believe I'm saved, and going to heaven. I believe that all the angels in Heaven are rejoicing because of my decision to give you my life. And my name is written in the Lambs Book of Life!! Help Me to read your word everyday and find a good church who preaches your word and help me grow as a Christian. Help me to be ready for your Coming. Please keep your Holy Angels around me to protect me always. Show me how to pray for America--so that you can continue to Bless and Prosper us according to your Word! And God Bless Israel--I pray for her Peace!! Thank you Jesus!!! Congratulations, you are now a child of God!! You are Blessed!

America, Let's get back to the foundation of Blessing in America!

For it is in GOD WE TRUST!!!

Posted by: zionslion777 | November 29, 2010 5:04 AM
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AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!!!

I remember that in grade school, growing up in America, I was taught this declaration: (Do you remember this)?

I pledge allegience to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, indivisable, with liberty and justice for all!


This Liberty and Justice for all--is not for those who want to abolish the Godly Principles that made this Nation Great in the First Place.

Why was America Blessed by God?

Because we had Godly men who in the beginning of our Nation....established the governing of it--by Godly Principles. So many of our laws were based on the laws and commands that God told Moses---to teach his children---and their children---etc. From one generation to the next...and that God would Bless that Nation who would do His will. America adhered to this Commandment--that Results in God Blessing it! It can be found in Deuteronomy Chapter 28.

The First Part of this Chapter goes over the Blessings that God will give. America has been Blessed by God and God alone!!!

But in this same Chapter--it talks about the curses that will come on the Nation whom God has blessed--if they turn from God and worship idols.

America---God has blessed us! No one else! And God is Good. He has feelings similar to how we feel. We will hurt his feelings when we turn our back on Him and go after other gods to serve them. And then He has sworn that the curses will come.

People in the Government should be sued for trying to enforce laws--like the Sharia law--in our Christian Nation. Why, because all Americans will be effected and cursed by ungodly laws being made.

Let us look at Deuteronomy 28:1-2
Blessings:

And it shall come to pass, "if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God "will" set thee on high above ALL NATIONS of the earth: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and "overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.

Read the Blessings: Holy Bible Deuteronomy 28 1-13 And see if America fits that description of a Nation being blessed by God.

Then the curses.

What substantiates the curses?

Let us look at Deuteronomy 28:14-15

"And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, to the right hand, or to the left, TO GO AFTER OTHER "gods" to serve them.

But it shall come to pass, "if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

Please read the curses: Holy Bible Deuteronomy 28:1-68

Sharia Law---Muslim--worships the moon god
Must not be allowed to establish territory (ground) in America!

We Need a Great Awakening in America and a National Repentance--to come back to God

Posted by: zionslion777 | November 29, 2010 3:12 AM
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Sharia law is not US law. We must keep our constitutional law in ALL of the United States. In God we trust!

Posted by: MelodyMG1 | November 28, 2010 9:35 PM
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Sharia law is not US law. We must keep our constitutional law in ALL of the United States. In God we trust!

Posted by: MelodyMG1 | November 28, 2010 9:32 PM
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Radicals Who Have Prayed on Capitol Hill
Nov 12, 2010 8:24 AM EST
An Al Qaeda leader, the head of a designated terror organization and a confessed jihadist-in-training are among a "Who's Who" of controversial figures who have participated in weekly prayer sessions on Capitol Hill since the 2001 terror attacks, an investigation by FoxNews.com reveals.

The Congressional Muslim Staff Association (CMSA) has held weekly Friday Jummah prayers for more than a decade, and guest preachers are often invited to lead the service. The group held prayers informally for about eight years before gaining official status in 2006 under the sponsorship of Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., one of two Muslims currently serving in Congress. The second Muslim congressman, Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., joined as co-sponsor after he was elected in 2008.

Among those who FoxNews.com determined have attended the prayer services during the Clinton, George W. Bush and Obama administrations are:

Anwar al-Awlaki, the notorious Al Qaeda cleric believed to be hiding in Yemen and the lone American on the U.S. governments capture or kill list, who conducted a prayer service on Capitol Hill shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Randall Ismail Royer, a former communications associate for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), who confessed in 2004 to receiving jihadist training in Pakistan. He is serving a 20-year prison term.

Anwar Hajjaj, former president of Taibah International Aid Association, which was designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. and U.N. in 2004.

Esam Omeish, the former president of the Muslim American Society, who was forced to resign from the Virginia Commission on Immigration in 2007 after calling for "the jihad way," among other remarks.

Salam Al-Marayati, president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, who was forced to step down from a national terrorism committee post in 1999 for pro-terrorist comments.

Nihad Awad, CAIR executive director, who attended a Hamas meeting in Philadelphia in 1993 that was wiretapped by the FBI.

Johari Abdul Malik, Dar al-Hijrah imam, who made statements in support of convicted and suspected terrorists who attended his mosque.

Tariq Ramadan, a Muslim scholar banned from the U.S. for six years beginning in 2004 for his alleged ties and donations to terror groups. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lifted Ramadan's ban in January.

Abdulaziz Othman Al-Twaijri, the head of a division of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, considered a foreign agent by the U.S.

Posted by: babybugalu | November 28, 2010 1:30 PM
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islam: satan's system-
1)the moon god (from their the crest)
2)the religion of the sword, as they themselves call it, Scriptures say to do NO murder.
3)their allah is the clever deceiver, they call him, and as the Scriptures say, the devil is the father of all lies.

So, does this sound like satan's system? Judge for yourselve.

Posted by: babybugalu | November 28, 2010 1:24 PM
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What are the steps to take to unseat an acting judge that refuses to take into account our founding documents and principles, such as 'THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED'? This is an insult to the will of the people who definitely know better than this erring judge.

Posted by: babybugalu | November 28, 2010 1:15 PM
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How can any Judge even consider putting an injunction against a law which affirms the supremacy of the American Constitution in American courtrooms? How could that in the wildest imaginings suppress anything contained in the first amendment? Shariah is political, not religious in nature. If stopping Shariah is stopping Islam (the argument of CAIR), then Islam must not be a religion per se. Freedom of religion is only guaranteed by the First Amendment for real religions not political systems. CAIR has inadvertently revealed the connection of Shariah to Islam. Political Islam is deeply integrated into a belief system that poses as- merely a religion. Muslims presently are free to practice what they call a religion any way they wish as long as it does not violate American law. However, they have no Constitutional right to demand that Shariah not be prohibited from replacing our Constitution. The Oklahoma law is a pre-emptive move to prevent an oppressive political system from making inroads upon our legal system as is presently being attempted across our great land. Hopefully, the Judge in this case has enough wisdom to see that an injunction as a prelude to a declaration of the law being unconstitutional is wrong headed. On the other hand if the Judge turns out to be wrong headed on this matter, I hope she finds herself removed as a judge in the not too distant future. CAIR of course will continue to fight and will continue to damage political Islam by revealing more and more truth. Sedition will not be tolerated in this country whether by violence or by stealth.

Posted by: NosserJJN2 | November 27, 2010 11:50 PM
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Like so many of these comments I am amazed we are even having this discussion. I have been worried for quite some time about Sharia Law. I guess the only thing that will wake this nation up is when they see a woman put in the ground to her waist and stoned to death for something her husband can say she did, true or not!!! We are way out of control with political correctness.

I agree with so many, how come the peoples voice when they vote can be overturned by a few liberal judges. If these judges don't like the laws the majority choose let them go to Iran or Cuba or some other country where the people are ruled by a dictator.

God help us; the United States of American was founded on Christian principles and for this reason and this reason alone became a great nation. We have had the protectoin of the Almighty. If we do not get Godly principles back, the Hand of the Lord will be completely removed and our great country will then be destined to FAIL.

Posted by: camelriderusa | November 27, 2010 6:22 PM
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why bother to vote in this nation, if the judicial system has no respect for our beliefs or opinions. and if we can impeach the president of our nation, why cant we impeach this judges!

Posted by: ccfchurch02 | November 27, 2010 11:33 AM
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We need desperetely to return to the core beliefs of our founing fathers and act on them. We need to pray for our country daily that it would do our Heavenly Father's will for the country He helped to establish and is helping to maintain.

Posted by: carolmarkett | November 26, 2010 7:43 PM
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It is amazing that in America we are even discussing this!! Foreign law of any kind shouldn't be considered in a Sovereign Nation! This judge, along with a lot of others who legislate from the bench, need to be recalled. THE PEOPLE have spoken and NO judge should be able to overrule US! The same is true for the voters of California and other places where the people vote in a clear majority (prop 8 to protect marriage), judges should have NO right to overturn the will of the people! We need to educate ourselves and speak out against this blatant disregard of the people of the USA!

Posted by: pat4life | November 26, 2010 6:20 PM
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Where's all the progressive outrage against Sharia? Why aren't they shouting for the separation of religion and state? They didn't hesitate to show their outrage when courts were weighing the issues of Morman laws on bigamy. So where's their voice when it's regarding Sharia's laws allowing husbands to rape their wives? Where's their anger calling for the rights of all women, regardless of religion? Interesting that when it's an Islamic issue, there's an eerie silence from the left.

Posted by: mwsocal | November 26, 2010 2:33 PM
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You know what else we should ban? Samurai swords in classrooms, bears with guns and spaceships on highways. Better safe than sorry.

Posted by: maryp123 | November 26, 2010 1:40 PM
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I have read a lot of comments on how bad sharia law is for our Nation. What are you DOING to keep sharia law out of your community? I have found out this week three things, 1. people do not know what sharia law is, 2. people think it is a religion and 3. people will not sign a petition to keep sharia law out of their community. People in general are ignorant of sharia law. My brother who is a college prof., ask me, what is sharia law? Please get out there and talk about sharia law to everyone. I started at my church. Will you do something or just talk.

Posted by: Joceile | November 26, 2010 9:16 AM
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America is a melting pot of ideas and agreements all drawn together by setting certain precedents. American jurisprudence demands the use of precedents. Setting legal precedents establishes a course; a reason to persist in an argument until due recognition of that precedent by states senators and congressmen is made; which then forces a vote and the precedent becomes law or not. Since laws, both state and federal, are characterized by the use of such legal precedents and enacted by legal representation on behalf of all Americans it cannot be misinterpreted to mean that sharia law is more or less "law" than the precedent that establishes it as law. The question then is "who" will recognize the establishing of sharia law in a legal system of governance that does not condone the establishment or effective use of any international law by and through the U.S. Constitution and the Ten Commandments on which all American law rests? America is, in fact, a Christian nation founded on the principles of the Ten Commandments and by that precedent alone American jurisprudence stands or falls! And finally lets not forget nineteen Muslims who subscribe to Sharia law attacked and murdered thousands of fellow Americans just a short time ago in downtown New York city! That legal precedent stands all by itself!

Posted by: Patriot_Son | November 26, 2010 4:25 AM
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Although Sharia Law may work for some people who choose to live under it, our government works only if we (the People) choose the way we are governed. I think it is ridiculous that a judge would ignore 70% of the people in this case. I may choose to live under the "Golden Rule" (which has religious underpinnings) but would never think of imposing it blindly on my neighbors!

Posted by: robinlrandall | November 26, 2010 1:06 AM
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Please keep on keeping us informed. Sharia law must never be a part of American life. Activist judges are killing our country and should be removed.

Posted by: cinnamon17 | November 25, 2010 9:40 PM
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First of all, there is no place for the insinuation and intrusion of international law here in the US, PERIOD!!!

Secondly, Shariah law must never be allowed here to avoid a legal schizophrenia to develop. Under current US law the Prophet Mohammed would not only be a polygamist with his many wives, but indeed a pedophile having "married" a six year old girl and then sexually consummating the union with her when she was nine years old. To even consider giving respectability to such is outrageous and insane!

Posted by: Gordon18 | November 25, 2010 5:15 PM
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Major law's are broken "rule of law" is consistently broken by the activist judges that are ruling from the bench.

Lawfully WE CAN. This isn't President Obama's campaign slogan. WE CAN --WE THE PEOPLE defeat those that are corrupt and "lawless" and/or corrupt "shark" trial lawyer's. For instance, California and 29 other states have the "Unborn Victims Violence Act" which safeguard's personhood of the unborn. The Senate moved50-49) to make it a separate crime to harm a fetus during commission of a federal crime. As Scott Peterson was found guilty for the murder of his wife, Laci, and unborn son, Conner. President Bush signatured and made a statement "strongly supporting unborn children" The law gives personhood to the unborn child, which would be Conner, two count's of murder against Scott Peterson. I honestly don't understand how the Obama Administration has been able to bypass "rule of law" as the battle to keep abortion "on demand" entitlement's out of government healthcare as well as doctor's and nurses conscience clause right's must stay intact. Sharia Law is so backward's as Hillary Clinton pegs her own political career; she is very quiet about the surgence of such backward's abusive law's toward women and this "religious belief" is of a cult, a SHAM on women this is for Muslim men or any man the right to abuse his wife and children as they marry off the young girl's to the older iman's. It is a cult and it doesn't have any business in our culture or overiding our Constitution.

Posted by: lindasaint-surfingal | November 25, 2010 1:18 PM
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It's time the world wakes up, most peolpe dont even know or want to know what happening in this world because it might interfere with their perfect life but, wake up your perfect life will change and then it will be too late with whats happening with these Muslim garbage actually a better name to describe them are satans followers.
Peolpe need to strart getting educated about what this law is really about and how these people think, this is a cult and the more followers they can get the more satans community will grow. The hell has begun ey are creeping in quickly because they are being allowed since there are too many stupid and ignorant people to allow them.

WAKE UP WORLD OR OUR KIDS WILL SUFFER
FANNIE

Posted by: fmaccarone | November 25, 2010 10:02 AM
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For any Judge to rule for sharia law is against the constitution and that Judge has Violated his oath of office. This is also treason, to the constitution that judge swore an oath to enforce when that judge has sworn to when he took office. I agree with DougandTerry & moeman, This is our country!!
I think those who are trying to do us harm should remember what happened to those of history. When we get enough, WE FIGHT, We are united against the foul things that are trying to destroy us. Those who are trying to destroy us should remember WW II. They should remember the Civil war was as well. You push us much more and we will fight you to the death. That is our history and we mean it. We put up with just so much, then it is all over, that is when the fighting will start. WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE LAW UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS GREAT NATION. The Constitution even makes it very clear, IF THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT DOES NOT DO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
These federal judges are out of touch with the law of this land. I took an oath to defend the constitution and the laws of this country and I mean to do just that.

Posted by: paralax | November 25, 2010 3:35 AM
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I believe the court in the early year say that church and state is together, then in 1963 all libral judge rule againt 98 % of christain people that say this country is christain nation.... and then the judge in 1963 made like all the other court and judge before them was wrong, and they the judge in 1963 only use part of the letter of jefferson, so the judge could win, but they all was wrong them self.. so that what happening again and it is the judge that doing it, not listerning what the people say.. that what they should be doing and going by all the contitution.. most of the founding father believe in god and they wrote many letter that show u they believe in chrstainity... the declaration of independent, say denomination , that mean christain denomination , not islam or buda or any other riligion... only chritain denomination.. every one should read it and the letter thomas jefferson wrote and many other letter he wrote and u see for yourself it was o.k. for church and state to be togther, but state could not stop the belief of christianity ( churches).. and could not make a church, but it did not say christain could not hold office or church and state do not belong together, what a lie the libral is doing, to bring sin in the christain nation to destroy it.. from within our goverment, that is more evil then good..because it seem to me they not not belive in god, and do not wont children to believe in god and for children to except evil and sin..if the libral tell the truth they tell u that evolution is there belief and that me it there religion, so if they wont to teach it in school, so should creatiasm should be teach, that way the children can make there on mine up for them self what they wont to believe.. not force on my libral people...I pray that god will open the eyes of all the people and that they will see what libral really stand for, that is evil....also our contitution say if we the people think that our goverment is doing wrong we can get them out of office and bring in the one that we say should be there...That includeany judge or senator,president,or any other office holder in the white house senate or house or any other goverment building that we vote on ..

Posted by: wildtigertkd | November 25, 2010 1:13 AM
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And we let 4,000,000 of em in here! Somebody had to know better than that!

Posted by: earltmorgan | November 25, 2010 1:03 AM
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The left-wing will always allow something like Sharia law to actually come about here in America. The left-wing hates America, and God, and will always align with something like Sharia to help destroy and bring down this nation. The left-wing will always stand with destructive, outside forces, like Sharia, to further the anti-God, anti-America, bandwagon it's on. The left-wing only knows defeat, and retreat, it is sad, that our courts, are so anti-God, and anti-American as well. Remember, to vote, and stand for this nation, our courts, and government never will.

Posted by: MrCool1 | November 25, 2010 12:37 AM
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We simply cannot allow two parallel legal systems to operate here. Sharia is inconsistent with with our Constitution, our traditions and our current body of civil and criminal law.

Posted by: jstol3 | November 25, 2010 12:00 AM
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That judges would even allow any leniency where the law is concerned is absurd! "Sharia Law" says it all! They want to livein this country-they MUST LIVE BY OUR LAWS! IF THEY DON'T COMPLY-MAKE GO BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND THEY CAN PRACTICE THEIR SHARIA LAW ANY WAY THEY WANT! THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA-OUR RULES, OUR LAWS, OUR LANGUAGE, ETC! NO ANDS, IFS OR BUTS! AND THE ONES THAT ARE PUSHING SHARIA LAW ARE tHE MUSLIM bROTHERHOOD, CAIR, ET AL AND NEED TO BE DEFUNDED BY US THE TAXPAYERS AND SHUT DOWN! THEY ARE HAMAS AND ONLY FRONTS FOR HAMAS, JIHADS TO TRY AND TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY AS THEY HAVE IN EUROPE! SHUT THEM DOWN NOW!

Posted by: birder356 | November 24, 2010 11:50 PM
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Sharia law is not a religious practice, it is a civil law which enforces Islam and claims worldwide jurisdiction, guarantees Muslim supremacy and subjugation of non-Muslims, and is thus incompatible with the U.S. Constitution. Indeed, Muhammad's doctrine of taysir provides that Muslims are only free from enforcing Sharia law when there are not enough Muslims or Muslims in power to facilitate enforcement. The global jihad seeks to ensure worldwide submission to Sharia law. We need more laws banning it's implementation in the U.S. like the Oklahoma State Constitutional Amendment banning the use of Sharia law.

Posted by: tiggerita | November 24, 2010 11:34 PM
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Sharia law is not a religious practice, it is a civil law which enforces Islam and claims worldwide jurisdiction, guarantees Muslim supremacy and subjugation of non-Muslims, and is thus incompatible with the U.S. Constitution. Indeed, Muhammad's doctrine of taysir provides that Muslims are only free from enforcing Sharia law when there are not enough Muslims or Muslims in power to facilitate enforcement. The global jihad seeks to ensure worldwide submission to Sharia law. We need more laws banning it's implementation in the U.S. like the Oklahoma State Constitutional Amendment banning the use of Sharia law.

Posted by: tiggerita | November 24, 2010 11:34 PM
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I am afraid that if we set back and let this continue without taking some kind of positive action; there will be a lot of worse things shoved down our collective throats in the future. How can we allow these self-rieotious judges just walk over what we, the people want as a majority. I am tired of being told that we have to accept things the way they are. PC- BULL!God says that certin things are abominations to Him. If they are offensive to God; Then who are we to say that their not offensive and we must accept it? I'm referring to the same sex fagots and gaybobbies and lezaboys out there who plot and prey on our youngsters when ever and where ever they can. I don't think they should be allowed to: Teach, Preach, or Hold Office, (Except as dogcatcher perhaps)And I am doubly tired of having to "Press 1 for English" I say that "IF you like the U.S.A. enough to sneak across our borders then for heaven sake learn English and use it as your only language. Every time I eat a vegetable I thak God for the Person who was able to go into the fields and harvest those veggies. I look into those fields in the summer and I cannot see very many white people working in the swealtering heat. Yes; There are those who are here illegally but are they the ones that are here meaning to do harm to the U.S.A. Not all of them smuggle in drugs or use them. Not all of them are out to take jobs away from willing American workers. Not all of them are looking to rape and pillage our Nation or our Youth. But there are those that do in the name of "Enlightment or New Order Religion." There is nothing new under the sun. It's the Same O Same O where ever you go. Recently I have met one Muslin in the town I live in. The man was dressed as they dress. Wearing a turban or towel wrapped around his head. Chairs were avaliable but he chose to squat like a savage on his heels. When I did happen to get in close proximity of this man he reeked of something that made my head spin after a few moments of exposure to it. He stared at me as if he wanted to see through me and like I had no business being in the same state that he was in. I felt that he felt superior to me in every way. And the woman that was with him never looked up for the two hours we were in the same room. When he spoke to her it was like a barking command and she obeyed immediately to do his bidding. Fetch him water three times. Fetch him a book. Fetch him some paper. Here doggie; Fetch like a good doggie. They - The people we are talking about have no thoughts of doing anything to make the U.S.A. a better place unless they control it. And we must never allow that. We must turn the tide against the gay communities and take back out schools and our children and grand-children from these people who are considered Abominations in our Gods Sight. We must kick Harry Potter out of our classrooms and return God to them where he belongs. Thank you. An OregonArkie Yeaa for Oklohoma I'm behind them all the way!! :) Send them back!

Posted by: dougandterry | November 24, 2010 10:56 PM
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People who think Sharia law is going to take the place of American law don't know anything about the Constitution or Sharia law.

As Jordan rightly points out, the okla amendment also forbids the consideration of international law in Oklahoma courts. What...?? Oklahoma can't "opt out" of international law. The constitution states that we're bound by any treaties to which the US is a party. (that includes Oklahoma).

Also, its forbidden within the Muslim faith to impose Sharia law on non-muslims. Unlike Christianity, which is a religion that requires that we "spread the word," Muslims have no such duty to spread Islam and are in fact forbidden from attempting to impose tenants of Islam on non-muslims.

All of this is just insane. Sharia law in America is a non-issue, played up by sensationalist news/entertainment corporations that purport to be serious news outlets. This proposed amendment means as much an amendment banning cats in Congress. Of course the idea of stoning, and veiled women in the USA sounds horrible. Luckily, these things can't happen because we have a constitutional democracy, which allows people to VOTE before laws are changed. Unless Americans decide Sharia law is the way to go, I think we're safe.

Posted by: maryp123 | November 24, 2010 10:55 PM
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If we cannot accept religion as a foundation for law, then from where do our laws derive? To reject Islam fairly, we would also have to reject all other religions/beliefs. Unfortunately for the secularists, all moral/ethical/legal statements of ought & ought-not are faith-based beliefs. You cannot prove right from wrong with science; there is no such thing as "secular law." Rejecting all religion would mean the State fundamentally determines ought from ought-not; the State replaces Natural Law & Nature's God as the (very) alienable source of human rights (as laid out by the American foundational documents.) Alternatively, to say that we just want to use judeo-christian law only, is towing the line of the dreaded, du duh dummmmm: DOMINIONISTS.

Posted by: vertebrae8 | November 24, 2010 9:55 PM
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To add a bit...excuse the typos please in my last post...the Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. They both have the same agenda. The both want to be in charge of ushering in the New World Order. Remember Bush? He mentioned a NWO also & he is a Republican. I agree with the one poster who talked about the Constitution Party. I work with them in the state I live in although we are not on the ballot yet, we are working to make sure it is on the ballot in all 50 states for 2012 election. We have been deemed by the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center) as an anti-government extremist organization. We are a party that is not bought off by the elites. 94 out of 100 senators have been bribes to push through S510 doing away with private and organic gardens & Farmer's Markets.Allot of them are Republicans. Please don't tell me that anyone believes the lies and rhetoric coming from their mouths. It is time for America to wake up! To EVERYTHING! Please see my other post.

Posted by: Angelgirl1 | November 24, 2010 7:48 PM
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I concur with every post that has been written. This is the US of A and has no place for Sharia Law however, I know exactly what is happening. Our government elites, being Luciferian, are letting the Muslims have their way. The Muslims believe that taking over the world, converting all or killing the rest will usher in their messiah, who is our anti-christ and the government elitists, being Satan worshipers know that it is Satan who is to rule. They believe that is their one true god.
Yeshushua/Jesus Christ is on His way. Keep looking up and in the meantime, keep doing all that is right in the sight of our One True God Yahweh. I had a comment that was deleted from a post I made because I called these people "monsters" and said they belong to Satan...unless they convert to Christianity. I have my first amendment right and NO ONE will take it from me.

Jesus was not PC, (for the one poster who asked what PC Speech was it is "politically correct" speech). I refuse to be PC and I will not stop calling sin...sin. Vengeance belongs to the Lord and in His commands, no one has the right to kill. I do believe we have the right to defend ourselves when we belong to Yahweh. We are defending what is Yahweh's just like we defend his word, but we are not to set out to kill. Self defense in not premeditated.
Everything about our Republic is going down the tubes but I believe that the Lord is paving the way for His return when every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Yehushua/Jesus Christ is Lord, Savior and King.
Everywhere we turn they are trying to take our rights from us. With S 510 food Nazi's, to out 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments. They want to take our internet. They want to control what we eat, what we see and do, and how we think. They are conditioning us for the New World Order and those that won't go with the program will be eliminated. They are using poisons all over the place to depopulate. In what we eat, drink, wear, our soaps, lotions, water and toothpaste. They want to force vaccines and control who lives and dies (Obamacare). We need to know what is happening, get right with Yahweh and trust only Him. Go's will be done on earth...as it is in heaven...and if we can't see to it...HE Will. Lord, give us the courage and strength to do what is right in Your sight, to have faith and trust in YOU. You are our Savior and King. Come quickly oh Lord, take your children from your wrath that is coming upon the world. Open the eyes of those who will see and bring them to the fold of Your Loving Arms...in the Holy & Precious Name of Yehushua/Jesus Christ, My Savior, Lord & King, I pray...Amen.

Posted by: Angelgirl1 | November 24, 2010 7:36 PM
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Hello,
There are good and bad in all,race's.But if we went to their country and tried what they are doing,we would be killed for sure.It's time for us American;s to start really fighting back on this stuff.
I think we need to clean out the goverment,I think they see we mean business from this last election.
Impeach Obama and Biden and put Mr John Bohner in as President,Look at the filthy word's and comment's we have had to endure from them.I think it's awful we paid for a jet to fly a dog on vacation,why not fly him with the family.Never have I seen so many vacation's.This is American don't try and push their way's and law's on us,we are kind enough to allow them to come here.
Let them go back if they don't like our way's.

Posted by: TrueAmerican8 | November 24, 2010 7:28 PM
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It is written. If God is with you, fear nothing. We must occupy until He comes.

Posted by: hannahrn02 | November 24, 2010 7:00 PM
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The Bible plainly states that whatsoever men sow is what they will also reap. Based on that word, I personally believe the things we see happening in America today, including the current promotion of Sharia law, is the result of America's general turn from God, which the Bible clearly warns of. No question that America's roots are Christian, but just look at it now -- it doesn't remotely resemble its former self. I believe the country has been and continues to reap a harvest produced by the (Godless) seeds its been planting. Everybody talks about how 'turning back to God' is the answer (which it is), but is that really happening in America?? Without GENUINE repentance and a GENUINE spiritual awakening and return to the God of the Bible, I think it only gets worse from here, Sharia law just one more symptomatic clue.

Posted by: MoeMan | November 24, 2010 6:17 PM
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Excuse me....Isn't aligning U.S. Laws to sharia law a violation of separation of church and state? U.S. Laws are loosely based on the 10 commandments which are the laws of GOD, and not a specific religion. Religion by the way are all things MAN has added to the list GOD gave us to live by. And that is how sharia law came about. Sharia law is based in Islam only. The concepts of sharia law are peculiar only to Islam and that is why adopting sharia laws is unconstitutional. It is the official stamp of endoresement of the U.S. Government preferring one religion over another. The First Amendment specifically states: Shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Posted by: Archangel55 | November 24, 2010 5:40 PM
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This highlights just how much due dilligence is required. You can win one fight & they will slip it back in under some different heading. Would be better to
win by insisting that it can never be introduced again. This is a weakness within
our whole system. Lets work on correcting this flaw & we can protect our way of life.

Posted by: tristarym | November 24, 2010 5:24 PM
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Any act by any judge contrary to the constitution is a sign of treason punishable by the laws of our own constitution period.

Posted by: dmsart | November 24, 2010 5:12 PM
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Oklahoma has to win this one! We the people have voted in Oklahoma. What has or is becoming of the people of the United States of America casting a vote, just to have it vetoed by an appointed Federal judge. What ever happened to tar and feathers? We need to remove both the appointed and the one who appointed them from office. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN! That’s why we left England. To have a voice. Yes, I agree with some of the former comments. Whatever country I enter, I am subject to their laws. If you don’t like the laws of your country, then why are you depriving yourself of the freedom to practice them and moving here? Don’t come here and change ours! If you don’t like our laws, go back to your heritage. In fact, we will gather funds and help you move along with all of the actors, actresses and government officials in this country who have their heads buried in the sand. And, as a bonus, we will give ALL of you a military escort to your border. You then may GO IN PEACE to your officials, sit with folded hands and explain the changes you wish for them to make. And when you return to this country, with your head on your shoulders, we will listen!

THIS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, NOR WILL IT EVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY!

We are;
OF THE PEOPLE
BY THE PEOPLE
FOR THE PEOPLE

NOT; OF THE JUDGES, BY THE JUDGES & FOR THE JUDGES

Posted by: luvUSA2 | November 24, 2010 5:03 PM
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Americans- get involved; it's YOUR country after all. Together, we CAN keep the enemies out. Run for your state and local offices: Park Boards, School Boards, City Councils, Senate and House Reps, etc. This is how we will keep Sharia Law out, otherwise those who want to take our America away will do so in just this way- in bits and pieces by getting elected in local elections first. Join and run for office as a Constitution Party Candidate because the other 'parties' have proven they won't stand up to fight for you or the USA. www.ConstitutionParty.com www.cpmn.org

Posted by: Maria34 | November 24, 2010 4:59 PM
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Our soldiers have fought in the past and do today so that This Nation (under God) Will be a Nation that will have a government of the people, for the people and by the people. This nation was established on biblical principle, and we the people reserve the right to keep it as such and not allow district judges or any other to change that. Islamic law needs to stay in Islamic countries, we need to enforce our laws here and stop twisting it to allow other countries' laws. Hello, that's why we came here in the first place!

Posted by: lfaz | November 24, 2010 4:53 PM
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I for one am happy to see so many who feel the way I do. We cannot allow Sharia law take place in this country, Muslims need to go home if they want to practice this nonsense.

CAPTIRIA: what is pc speech?

Posted by: chefy | November 24, 2010 4:38 PM
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The "lemon test" last two prongs seem to present a Catch-22 problem, and yet like other actions here in California, what remains of the relevance of democratic will?
And what begins the quagmire of Sharia tenets, some of which disagree with our moral and legal standards like polygamy, marriage age, creation and dissolution, honor killing etc; do we allow some, all; why any if indeed from a religion? And then what about our beginning and conserv- ative legal precedent torte based on English AND Judeo-Christian values?

Posted by: alloursenses | November 24, 2010 4:24 PM
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Why have our military on the front lines losing their lives if our judicial system is going to let the enemy in the backdoor.
We couldn't go into their courts and expect them to embrace our laws. What's the saying "When in rome, do as the roman's do. Well, when in America, let our laws be enforced.

Posted by: slightb42 | November 24, 2010 3:45 PM
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Thank you, please keep up the good work. I want our Republic back, I believe you do also. This is an age old problem which has persisted down thru the ages. The world system cannot tolerate free thinking individuals whose Faith, Hope and Love come before the wishes of the state. Sharia law is not the will of YHWH for anyone.

Posted by: normpatton | November 24, 2010 3:37 PM
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Our goveernment was based on Biblical principal; we are a country founded on freedom to worship the one true God. That principle would be banned by gov. officials if we allow; many want to implement a foreign religous law over ours. God forbid that we bow down to any other then the Father, Son, and Holy spirit. One God, I repeat one God in three personages not three Gods;a God of love and peace.
Change our laws to protect a people who openly want to kill all who do not worship a false God?, God forbid, and He does. Esau and his seed have always denied the true God who was his father Issac's God. He sold His birthright to Jacob because God meant nothig to him. His appetites came first; and now wants to steal ours obtained through the seed of Jacob who was faithful to his heavenly creator. Shari law kills and forces one to serve; our true God who is creator of all wants us to love and bring willing others who will receive Him and worship Him freely. Esau's seed has always sought to kill the people of the God of Issac and Jacob. May we pray for Esau's seed to come to the creator of heaven and earth and over come the evil ones,Satan, tactics.
Muslems, who would you rather serve, a true God of love who gives you a free will,or one who forces you to obey in fear?

Posted by: djschoon | November 24, 2010 3:36 PM
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Our goveernment was based on Biblical principal; we are a country founded on freedom to worship the one true God. That principle would be banned by gov. officials if we allow; many want to implement a foreign religous law over ours. God forbid that we bow down to any other then the Father, Son, and Holy spirit. One God, I repeat one God in three personages not three Gods;a God of love and peace.
Change our laws to protect a people who openly want to kill all who do not worship a false God?, God forbid, and He does. Esau and his seed have always denied the true God who was his father Issac's God. He sold His birthright to Jacob because God meant nothig to him. His appetites came first; and now wants to steal ours obtained through the seed of Jacob who was faithful to his heavenly creator. Shari law kills and forces one to serve; our true God who is creator of all wants us to love and bring willing others who will receive Him and worship Him freely. Esau's seed has always sought to kill the people of the God of Issac and Jacob. May we pray for Esau's seed to come to the creator of heaven and earth and over come the evil ones,Satan, tactics.
Muslems, who would you rather serve, a true God of love who gives you a free will,or one who forces you to obey in fear?

Posted by: djschoon | November 24, 2010 3:34 PM
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This is one more blatent example of a very serious problem with the functioning of our current democratic government. As several commentators have correctly stated, the only function of judges and the courts is to enforce the law which includes interpreting existing laws. The courts now feel they have the authority to MAKE LAWS and throw out laws passed by an overwhelming majority of voters. Our democracy "of the people, for the people, and BY THE PEOPLE" has been twisted into "of, for, and by THE FEW IN POWER". Our judges and courts,federal, state and local, have way too much power which they use to enforce their own agendas, all too often against the will of the people.
IT IS TIME FOR OUR CHECKS AND BALANCES TO GET BACK IN BALANCE!
DO NOT LET ONE MORE VOTER APPROVRD LAW BE DISCARDED BY THE COURTS MISUSE OF POWER!
BTW; Sharia law is an example of an obusive legal system run by a few powerhungry clerics to enforce their own agendas. Muslim clerics hate democracy. They forbid democracy in the countries they govern. They will not rest until the whole world is under their rule and Sharia law. And, don't be fooled. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim yearning to embrace democracy.

Posted by: 4Christtruth | November 24, 2010 3:04 PM
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I agree with the observations that we have been naive to allow this situation to become a threat. Now we are more aware, these radical Islam agendas must be halted. In the countries which respect this barbaric belief system, perhaps it is their right to persecute their women, mutilate and murder females that have spoken to a male, not spouse or family. We however are not willing to have Shariah Law instituted here. Anyone, who pushes this form of Islam/Muslimism in the US should be considered traitorous, unpatriotic to our Constitutional rights with which this country was built upon, they should be deported. Allowing them to come here, force these offenses upon us
is appalling. I don't care if you are democrat, republican, liberal, conservative, if you know educated, professional women, wonderful loving mothers, good spouses, GOD loving and fearing, American, speak up, take action. Otherwise the day will come when we sit in courts where our judges give away every right we BELIEVED we had earned, by virtue of first, second, third, fourth generation hard working immigrants who BUILT this country the way WE want it, not socialist, communist, Muslim, anti-respect for our history...

Posted by: mountains2oceans | November 24, 2010 2:55 PM
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So we have a religion that is also a totalitarian political system. It is unreasonable to consider that as a muslim, or any other belief system, that you have a right to brake the laws of the land in your practice of that system. If I were a satanist for example, I would not be permitted to sacrifice an animal or a person on an alter under our laws. And in a sense, that is what is going on when someone rapes and beats his wife. There really isn't any difference. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a reprobate, even a judge.

Posted by: goldengatekeepers | November 24, 2010 2:53 PM
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Muslims go back to your country on your own or we'll do it for you,maybe in a box!

Posted by: mrbig714 | November 24, 2010 2:50 PM
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I think we need to stick to our constitution. These people are immigrating to our country and therefore should be prepared to abide by our laws.
In my opinion Islam is not a true religion but a cult.I am a Christian but if I decide to convert to another religion my church does not go after me nor punish me. A muslim who converts is subject to death via an honour killing. This is not religion it is a cult. Also any alleged religion that instructs its congregation to kill all non believers by spreading the flaming sword throughout all lands is a cult. Read the Quran! It also instructs its members to lie if necessary to the infidel to gain acceptance of Islamic practices or plans. Mohammed, the founder, was in his fifties when he consumated marriage with a 9 year old 17th wife named Aisha. Muslims argue that it was okay because she had become a woman evidenced by menstruation. But any way you cut this it is child molestation. Once again, a cult.
If we grant Islam the right to Sharia law because of their religious beliefs then we will also have to grant polygamists sects of the Mormon church the right to continue forcing young girls into marriages with older men and denying them the freedoms granted by our constitution. Will we also have to permit satanists to have human sacrifices if they so desire? Freedom of religion does not mean freedom to break and violate the laws of the land.
Where is common sense in this matter?

Posted by: nikita77489 | November 24, 2010 2:49 PM
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It is absalutely sickining by major league proporation to think that any true sincere american would even think of permitting the decleared enemies of our country to bring their cave-age law to america. we from the west cant even visit their country and use the word freedom with a loud voice, not to mentioned try to change their cave-age law. SO I SAY. NO. NO. NO. A MILLION TIMES NO.those who choose to live in our country fine, they live, but keep their cave-age law to themselves. One of the other thing that I find really troubling, is the decisions of some of our judges in these outrageous cases,when I read some of their decisions in cases such as these and others it makes me wonder if some of these judges are not also enemies of our country, or just what law book or rules book are they reading in order to make their decisions.

Also, all true sincere americans should take very keen notice how that a lot of these effort by the enemies of our country to distroy our country from within as been stepped up at a grater proporation ever since this current administration took office, we must all pay close attention to whats happening make notes and remember Election is only two years away,We put them in with our fingers, we will also remove them with our fingers:

Posted by: jamesx-sell | November 24, 2010 2:48 PM
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As an Oklahoman that voted yes to ban Sharia law, I am disgusted that our court system has taken it upon themselves to decide that what the overwhelming majority of people in this state wanted doesn't matter!? If there was flaw with the state question then why were we even allowed to vote on the question? I feel that my rights as a life-long resident of Oklahoma have been tossed out the door because some religious group decided that they were offended after the law passed. Why are their rights being considered more than the rest of us who don't want this.What happened to separation of church and state? Islam is a religion last time I checked. Sharia law is part of that religion, right?! If you want to be governed by Sharia law, let me know and I will be happy to buy you a one-way ticket to your country of choice that is governed by that law and you won't have to deal with our backward and intolerant ways. Don't come here and try to inflict your barbaric ideology on the majority!! WE SPOKE, YOU LOST deal with it!!! I complain and I'm intolerant, they complain and somehow are being mistreated? What a joke. When will the insanity stop and America wake up once and for all? There is no happy medium for Islam. They want everything their way and are willing to do anything to get it.
Here is my proposition, I will be governed by Sharia law, when you are willing to be governed by Christian law. Oklahoma is not afraid to protect what is ours, I pray to God, not Allah, the rest of this great country follows our lead! BTW, regardless of what our incredibly flawed president says, we are a Christian nation; founded on Christian principles that are the sole reason we are the greatest nation in the world. God Bless America!!

Posted by: fightforit | November 24, 2010 2:46 PM
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I think we are going about this in the wrong way. It's not about throwing out the muslim - its about who are supportig them. Cut the head off and the body will die. Judges that are making these unscruplous ruling needs to be "outsted" "booted" because they - when sworn in stated "To up hold the Constitution and the laws of this nation" Where is Sharia Law coming from? GUEST what - its not from the Constitution!!!!!
I see Judges doing these rulings are trying be seen and heard, not doing their jobs as directed by "our laws" and government. Government - you need to stop being greedy and start helping the people, after all we elected you to be in those positions.

Posted by: BigPop11 | November 24, 2010 2:37 PM
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Americans- get involved; it's YOUR country after all. Together, we CAN keep the enemies out. Run for your state and local offices: Park Boards, School Boards, City Councils, Senate and House Reps, etc. This is how we will keep Sharia Law out, otherwise those who want to take our America away will do so in just this way- in bits and pieces by getting elected in local elections first. Join and run for office as a Constitution Party Candidate because the other 'parties' have proven they won't stand up to fight for you or the USA. www.ConstitutionParty.com www.cpmn.org

Posted by: Maria34 | November 24, 2010 2:32 PM
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Whatever happened to of the people for the people by the people? If the next President has any backbone whatsoever he or she will replace ALL of the liberal judges just like Clinton did to the conservative judgdes when no-one was watching!!

Posted by: Grizz | November 24, 2010 2:32 PM
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Sharia Law = Obama's greatest fantasy.

The idea of a law that would incite public uprising, necessitating the invocation of martial law, is desirable to our current president. It would allow him to remain in power, without needing to worry about proving his legitimacy or leadership. It would allow him to remain at the helm without having to continue "living up" to the people's expectations.

But that's neither here nor there. The immediate danger this law poses is a far more serious thing than Obama's legal status, and thus the reason I believe this to be worth focusing on.

Posted by: RETS | November 24, 2010 2:31 PM
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I am an American Citizen and also a Christian, knowing Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior! In defense of the Shaira Ban, I am for it 100%. If these people do not like our laws here in the United States of America, they can go back home where they belong. If people from other coutries come to our country, they should abided by our laws or else go back home. The problem with our coutry is that the government is taking what rightfully belongs to the citizens of the United States and giving it to foreginers.

Posted by: doyle_whitesel | November 24, 2010 2:28 PM
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YOu have got to be kidding me!! Only 70%??
Yikes...

Posted by: obatemc | November 24, 2010 2:26 PM
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If I might add, this seems very fishy on first glance -- I notice on BBC website, that certain folks are trying to push their views on through advertising money, articles about Canadian polygamy and such. Maybe the same folks trying to pressure Clinton appointed staff in desperate attempt to look sincere regarding muslim cultural agenda. I know that Clinton was under some unusual pressure in his neighborhood over past months, and it seems to be the same people -- a very aggressive minority of folks that like to create the most drama, with least effort. This judge may be under some pressure as well, so sympathies if that is why they would rule in such an un-American way in being so narrow. A more democratic option is for parties to choose Arbitration, and as an arbitration option if both parties agree to submit. That seems more in line, that's just one opinion and a more moderate option to consider.

Posted by: perspective71 | November 24, 2010 2:19 PM
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truth hurts doesn't it???

Posted by: ducky707 | November 24, 2010 2:13 PM
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Shame shame shame on us for letting any of this crap start in the first place! Jesus Christ will be the final Judge. Get ready HE is coming soon!

Posted by: ducky707 | November 24, 2010 2:12 PM
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We are a Christian nation and not a phony muslim counterpart. The muslims follow a drug addict crackpot that offers no salvation but a bunch of broads and some food for eternity. We Have a Savior and KING and Jesus Christ is His name!! Send them home to their atheist countries and get out of our faces! They are misled children. Jesus loves them too but they are too blind and indoctrinated to see and understand it. This world is only temporary and I am waiting for Jesus to come back to the world HE created. God bless OUR country. Thank you Jesus for loving us and being OUR Savior forever and ever. AMEN!!!

Posted by: ducky707 | November 24, 2010 2:08 PM
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I truly believe that our governmental leaders have lost sight of, or really never saw, where our foundation as a nation came from. They do not have any concern for the true foundations and core beliefs of the people who settled here on our shores to form and establish a new land for the people and by the people.
They need to look back to November 1620 when a ship travelled across the Atlantic during the early winter stormy season to escape the controlled society they lived in and wanted the freedoms to live together as peoples with a common bond under our Lord Jesus Christ.
They need to read the Mayflower Compact, an agreement to establish a new government from within themselves, and it was written by those that would be governed. This was the first attempt to develop a society that would govern itself and those who lived under that idea would agree and adhere to the basic tenants and moral structure and Christian values and beliefs that were the true rule and guide of those settlers
Patrick Henry, a five time Governor of Virginia, who gave us the "Give me liberty or give me death" speach also said,"It cannot be emphasized too strongly, nor too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not by religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ"....

Posted by: bloom4mich | November 24, 2010 2:04 PM
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November 24, 2010

Islamic Sharia Law need to be banned from use in the free world, including USA and Canada.

We don't need people looking at someone the wrong way and husbands feeling they have the right to cut off their hands, or to stone their wives to death in the street because they said something the husband did not like.
Islamic Sharia Law if from the Devil and not from God.

Maybe transporting these people who want Islamic Sharia Law, back to their own countries is the best way to deal with this. These people are defiant, dangerous, do not beleive in the God of Christianity, many would kill you in the blink of an eye for no other reason then the colour of your eyes. We must fight agaist the inclusion of this crazy Islamic Sharia Law. The people who want it need to go to therapy and find out why their minds are so screwed up. NO ISLAMIC SHARIA lAW IN THE FREE WORLD. This would be given this group of people a free right to kill whoever they want too. Government get a grip, say NO....................

Posted by: greentimes300 | November 24, 2010 2:00 PM
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As Jay writes, Oklahoma's anti-Sharia law passes the Supreme Court's Lemon test. There must be a broader solution to Islamization where they take over cities and nations like they are doing in France and by proxy in our airports.

It would be in the nation's security interest to begin programs to convert American citizens and visitors on work or school visas to the Founder's Christianity or a better state of the art belief such as portrayed in the radio and TV archives at SidRoth.org which features Christian miracles, or an even better state of the art which focusses on Jesus only.

This conversion effort should go around the world, again as a national security measure, to convert Moslem nations to Christian nations thus refocussing them on loving God and neighbor instead of killing infidels (including each other). Imagine a surge with teams of 3 troops, two for preaching the gospel and one for protection, dispatched to Afghanistan and Iraq. Eventually our Generals could figure out how to convert the nations, give Afghanistan an economy not based on heroin, and make friends instead of enemies, eventually fulfilling the Great Commission that the Gospel must be preached to all nations before the end will come.

This proposal is detailed further in my book http://congressionalbiblestudy.org which is probably the best plan ever written for America. Get it, read it, and make your government do it.

Posted by: overcomerman | November 24, 2010 1:50 PM
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P.S. We wouldn't need pat downs or security if we didn't allow Muslims to fly or use any public transportation. Same with Iranians and of mideastern desent....we all know who the terrorist are, we aren't stupid.

Posted by: lrott | November 24, 2010 1:44 PM
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It is time to demand that our congress and administration remove all Muslims from our country, they should have been deported after 9-11, we can love them in their own country, but they don't belong here.....everywhere they go they cause upheaval and strife and they come to conquer and divide and overthrow nations, why do you think other countries are having so many issues, look at Israel a fine example. They are trying to push their way of life onto WE THE PEOPLE and our nation under the guise of religious freedom. It is not a religion, it is sick way of life that has no place in my country, or our heritage. Send them packing and anyone who is condoning this behavior should be stripped of their citizen and deported right along with them. We've had enough of ths crap. IT is time to protect our sovereignty and our nation, thousands are buried in Arlington and across this nation who died to protect OUR NATION, OUR CONSTITUTION. THis is not the UNITED STATES OF ISLAM, or the UNITED STATES OF MUSLIM or the UNITED STATES OF MEXICO. It is time to send them back to their homeland and we will help them here, but they have no right to invade our nation. ANd any leader who is going along with this is a traitor to THIS NATION, plain and simple, there is no fine line here...it is not about religious freedom, it is about taking over a nation illegally. ANd this nation doesn't belong to just congress or this administration, it belongs to WE THE PEOPLE and our forefathers who died to create the greatest nation on earth, the United States of America, Land of the free, home of the brave and we have a constitution and our own laws, if you don't like it - leave! And don't let the door hit you on the way out...we will pay for your exit.

Posted by: lrott | November 24, 2010 1:41 PM
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Let's stick with the Constitution and throw out Sharia Law. Oklahoma and all
the other states have the right to ban Sharia Law and no judge should have the right to put a restraining order on the will of the people!

Posted by: evangelistwmr2 | November 24, 2010 1:40 PM
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Thank you kindly for this article. Accordingly, the Preamble to the Constitution of the State of Oklahoma reads:Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessing of liberty; to secure just and rightful government; to promote our mutual welfare and happiness, we, the people of the State of Oklahoma, do ordain and establish this Constitution. As such, Islamic law is known as Shariah Law, and Shariah means the path to follow God's Law. There are five elements to Shariah Law. The fifth element of Shar'iah Law is very broad and "all encompassing." This secondary body of knowledge may be ideas contained in the other written works. The New Testament is an example of this area of information, and legal discourses based upon Civil Law or Common Law may be another example. All information can be examined for logic and reason to see if it applies to the current case. It also may be a local custom or norm that judge may find helpful in applying to the issue before him. The judge may also weigh the impact of his decision upon how it will effect a person's standing in the community.
http://muslim-canada.org/Islam_myths.htm
ALSO SEE;http://www.answering-islam.org/index.html
Answering Islam
a christian-muslim dialogue

Posted by: ginepro | November 24, 2010 1:38 PM
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The vast majority of Americans are unfamiliar with Sharia Law regarding the ancient barbaric behaviors allowed by men and denied to girls and women. The laws cover every aspect and ascribe all control of assets - all financial dealings to be imposed on banking institutions and regarding appropriating property (women are property without any rights. Sharia laws allow men to "assault and decide life, death" for family members - daughters and wives! PLEASE educate Americans, as Oklahomans know, about the "dangers" of implementing ancient barbaric practices that will drastically affect, in time, the entire 21st Century and attack the Judeo-Christian Foundational Principles of our US Constitution!

Posted by: TruthTracker2 | November 24, 2010 1:38 PM
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Comment on OK Sharia law ban and DADT

Sharia law ban should be upheld It is external law, not the law of the land While generically such can be persuasive, it is not precedential and should not supercede federal nor local laws contrary or inconsistent therewith


DADT thet should not be repealed. It not only gives new meaning to "foxhole buddy" it should reflect the sense of the military establishment which is responsible for morale and unit cohesion. In my view, it otherwise would create a hostile environment for 'straights' and 'gays" alike living in close quarters and an emotionally charged atmosphere should be avoided

Posted by: ramsflyers | November 24, 2010 1:35 PM
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Somehow we have gotten confused by how we operate as a sovereign nation. Why are we even considering the ideas proposed by foreign law? And why does a single individual in judicial position have the ability to dominate over the voice of the majority of the people? It seems to me that some basic changes are in order with regards to how the will of the majority is safeguarded. Somehow, judges have weaseled their way into an area of authority that was never intended by our Founding Fathers, and that certainly is adding to the confusion and turmoil we face as a democratic and free society.

Posted by: bluejaycalling3 | November 24, 2010 1:30 PM
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As American's we need to following the lead of the Muslim World. Get rid of anything that contradicts our way of life.

Posted by: bpannell | November 24, 2010 1:29 PM
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The muslims in America have one goal, to change this country into a muslim country. They are using our laws of religious freedom to advance their agenda. They will not stop until everyone is converted by the sword or executed. If our government or individual states do not put a stop to it right now we are all doomed. Read your world history books. If they want to practice sharia law they need to go to a country that already has it.

Posted by: ellenlaw | November 24, 2010 1:28 PM
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We have a process for creating our laws. Now they want to enforce laws that a) someone else came up with, and b) haven't gone through our legal process.

Taking other laws into consideration is like spitting on our legal system.

Sharia and International law isn't the issue as far as I'm concerned. Our courts should be following state and federal law. Laws created and approved by our legal system.

The courts aren't there to make law or pick and choose which law they are to follow, they are there to interpret the state and federal laws set before them.

Posted by: wcar | November 24, 2010 1:26 PM
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It is extraordinary after234 of successful existence that the question of Sharia or anyother law would be posed.
It is a barbaric form of surfdom presented by a backward in undesirable system.
Sharia clashes with the tried and true system in this country. It has been brought up by people trying to escape this form of repression only to have it jammed down their thoats in this county.
My feeling is that there is no place for Sharia here or anyother culture...and if the idiots who have brought here are not satisfied with the system here let them return to their homeland...

Posted by: drobindance | November 24, 2010 1:22 PM
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Oklahoma has every right--and responsibility--to defend the laws of the United States as they stand without ANY concessions to Islam or foreign laws.

Islamic countries do not tolerate laws contrary to their own, and neither should we.

Wake up America.

Posted by: gdonner | November 24, 2010 1:22 PM
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Sharia Law is an abomination, and should never be allowed to be practiced in this Nation. I'ts totally not in line with our Constitution. Why is it that female judges seem to be more liberal in their interpretation of our Constitution? It was a female judge in Phoenix who rule against Arizona's Illegal Immigration Law 1070. Seems odd to me that female judges see our laws differently than male judges. They seem to try to make laws rather than interpret the Constitution. Maybe they should have run for some State or National office??

Posted by: joindeliot | November 24, 2010 1:21 PM
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No Sharia in Oklahoma and there should be absolutely none anywhere in the United States. They want Sharia, I'll make a reasonable contribution to help them move to one of those "wonderful" countries where Sharia is practiced.

Posted by: vian05 | November 24, 2010 1:17 PM
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As we know, this country was founded on Christian guidance and providence from Jehova God. America, what is for sure is that Sharia law does not belong here. By allowing its influence here is only asking for serious future problems in America. Muslem beliefs are contrary to America's foundation. Wake up Washington and citizens! We are just giving our country away. What the????

Posted by: jgvick | November 24, 2010 1:15 PM
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This country was founded on Christian principles and laws that govern our people. I absolutely refuse to bow my knee to their god, prophet or law...period. The "tolerance" being spewed by left wing idealists will lead to this type of thinking ie; allowing sharia law in our land.
I respect all peoples but when you migrate to our country you automatically submit yourself to our laws. Just as I would be subject to the laws of countries I may be in. Its that simple.

Posted by: lmaines70 | November 24, 2010 1:15 PM
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The Oklahoma law should be put in place in every one of our states. I personally don't have any desire to please or appease muslims. This is the United States of America. If they don't like our ways, they are more than welcome to leave this country and go back to their third-world stuff! I hope they do.
BTW, PC speech is a real danger to this country when we are dealing with muslims...
I for one refuse to be PC!! They hide behind such idiocy!!

Posted by: captiria | November 24, 2010 1:14 PM
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What happened to America. This is not how our founding fathers meant us to live. Take a look at the EU and how they are being over run, chased from their own towns and churches! Where are the politicians who have the guts and integrity to commit to the American Way
Of Life as our constitution meant!

Posted by: lrmcneny | November 24, 2010 12:58 PM
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