Issue isn't just a moral one

"and are now asking whether the baby has the legal right to grow inside the mother's body."

Please explain to me what legal rights I have over your body parts. What rights do your born children have over your internal organs? What right does any born person have to use another's body parts without their consent?

The debate was never about whether a fetus is a human life - that's your argument, and does not in fact justify an anti-abortion stance any more than my humanity entitles me to take my mother's kidney against her will. But you all never say openly what you also believe, that an adult woman is not a full human life unless she is also a virgin.

Fine, then the solution is obvious! No so-called religious institution should have any business functions or any other operations not explicitly religious such as hospitals, nursing homes, food providers, housing shelters, clothing outlets, bingo parlors, parking facilities, schools, non religious consoling, day care not for parents attending religious services or instruction, etc. I for one refuse to allow any religious superstition or dogma to have any influence directly on any governmental or business law, service, or action! No religious person is required to have an abortion if their religion forbids it; nor should any religion be able to prevent an abortion if I should want one!

Religions only have a right to advise their members on actions by their members for their members; they may argue for society to change its behavior, but no government or business should be allowed to impose any actions based solely on religious grounds. To do so, makes us no better than other theologies such as Israel, the Vatican or Saudi Arabia!

Catholics are dedicated to "extending Christ's healing mission." Thus, they have built many hospitals that provide incalculable benefit to communities.

If the atheists want to build a hospital and provide late term abortion, go ahead.

Sirs/Mams:

After Reading This, Maybe Now;

The U.S. Government Should Take-Over ALL "RELIGIOUS-BASED" HOSPITALS (Subsidized or Not Subsidized by Tax-Free Dollars) and straighten them out! WHY? Because

"PATIENTS-RiGHTS" is, undeniably, Separate From RELIGIOUS-RIGHTS! Same

Like Separation-ing of STATE & CHURCH or Church from State! 'NO' Exceptions (not a YES).

Religious-Medicine is Inferior (a National Security, Health Question, not G_Ds question) inferior to SECULAR-MEDICINE, Regodless! ELSE

Let ALL, EVERY and ANY so-called Christ Lov'n "CATHOLIC" Never Visit Nor Go To A Secular-Based Hospital. Let Them Have Their Own Ambulances. i.e.,

So If Your Jewish or Ishlamish etc.. and you need an Ambulance and a Hospital then the Catholic Hospital and Ambulance Can and Must Refuse (None-Catholic) Emergency Help because They are JUish (Pro-Abortion or Not), Ishlami, Esaui etc...

_ Here's Something On OBAMA-CARE Recommendation: Via the Cooperation of the-Public (The-People) The U.S. Federal Government, Starting With The States should have ALL [House-Holds] U.S. Citizenz (and Documented or Not) should Go to their Nearest HOSPITALS (Religious Or Secular) or second nearest Hospital and REGISTER ALL MEMBERS 1st! THEN

Issue All Of Them a Special "FAMILY-[Health]-CARD" that will entitle Them (Any-One in that Family, Anywhere In U.S.A.) To MEDICAL ATTENTION. Includes something Simple as a Mandatory Annual Check-Up!

i.e.; Out of 310,000,000 Americans, I'm sure OBAMA-CARE or PALIN-CARE or Whatever will all serve the People JUSTly.

Note: Interestingly; The "PATIENT-DOCTOR" reciprocity and The Laws Governing "Protection Of Medical' Records will cover the "Intimacy' portion when Family's start to Register with their Local Hospitals.

& Medical/Service Billing Vouchers, via LAW(s) Should be made Simple. And Punishment For FRAUD should be even Higher.

Note: CLERGY, DOCTORS &LAWYERS are Big Crooks Too!

Ooooppss, One Last Thing:

ALL Major RELIGIOUS HEADS of U.S.A. and The WORLD; Should Tell The 'TRUTH' (opposite MYTH): And that is:

"BEING BORN [BiRTH] Is A MIRACLE!

And There Is 'NO' Such Thing as Being Born-HERE, In-some (Someone elses Relig) Sin STORY's; i.e., via CHUMASH or BIBLE, or QURAN or GEETA or KANGYURs etc.. & this also Includes Their very "God(s) Playing/player" Authorships [Osiris, Zeus, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Smith, Vyasa, Gautama, Confusion et al!!

The POPE (Vatican) Should Reveal-That MYTH (opposite TRUTH) To ALL HUMANITY!

SECULAR-MEDICINE is Superior To RELIGIO-MEDICINE any day or Time!

INCAMERA: Man Is Going to Live as long as 300 +/- Years. Soo,

Like the Questionano, WHAT What is the Military Going To Do With All Their None-Active Personnel After WARS-ENDs (Not End of The World)?? Guard Our Borders? So,

Like-Wise What Will Hospitals & DOCTORS & CO Do When CANCERS can be Detected Decades Before They KILL!?

PS: DOCTOR's, Please S-T-O-P Over Prescribing or Exaggerating Patients ILL's!

Let's get down to reality: The vast majority of abortions in this country are elective rather than medically necessary. In other words, most abortions are not required by a medical crisis which threatens the health of the mother, but are the mother's personal lifestyle choice. Yet the argument to the contrary is a common one, and it has the powerful effect of casting abortion opponents as enemies of women's health rather than as advocates of unborn women.

That's why even abortion advocates know they've lost the debate over whether the fetus is a human life -- they know it is -- and have now shifted the line of argumentation from the woman's legal right to abort her baby, and are now asking whether the baby has the legal right to grow inside the mother's body.

Therefore, it is one thing for a state government to require federally-funded hospitals to perform medically-necessary abortions, and thus require dissenting doctors to cooperate in the absence of any qualified physician able to perform the procedures. It is an entirely separate matter, however, for the same state to require the same physicians to perform non-medically-necessary, elective abortions.

Because many religiously-affiliated hospitals are the only game in town or are the only one the HMO contracts with, this is not just about a misguided idea that practicing inferior or defective medicine is God's Will. If a religiously-affiliated hospital does not want to allow all procedures, they have the right to get no government money. None. If you are getting any government money, you must be expected to agree to meet the standards of medical care required by professional organizations.

I have no use for people who put women and others into danger because of their supposed faith. I have no use for people in power claiming that it is their civil right to deny civil rights to others. Sorry, but your argument sounds too much like the argument for Jim Crow. If a hospital claims a religious exemption that allows it not to treat blacks or Moslems or Jews are you okay with that?