The shotgun marriage of tea party and evangelicals

Thanks to this article and the "Theology of Harry Potter", I have been restored to wholeness by the Washington Post. GLORY!

May these morons be haunted by recurring nightmares that their TSA fondlers are gay.

I've said it before - I hope Fox News gets their hapless lemmings to elect Bishop Romney President. He then can order NASA to build a huge spaceship so he, Elder Beck and the rest of their Mormons can "hie to Kolob" the nearby planet where they think God lives and take the rest of Huckabee's "Christians" with them.

A win-win for us all.

Theocons are an evil hybrid of Palin's intolerant evangelical religion combined with an old, white-supremicist Southern political party.

All they can do is try to bully the rest of us with their cherry-picked scriptures and their cherry-picked Constitution.

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This nation, and indeed the colonies that preceded it, continue to be plagued by two hateful evils: Christian fanaticism, and Racism.

Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Washington, D.C., New York, Rhode Island, Maryland, and California.

Except for Iowa, all these states are very vulnerable to nuclear attacks by virtue of their coastal location, wealth and proximity to nuclear stockpile outside America.

Sodom and Gomorrah revisited.

What a bunch of morons.

Ralph Reed is still with us? The writer must have been desperate if he had to quote Reed. He disapeared from the scene several years ago after some decidedly unchristian behavior. Reed, an earnestly
insincere talking head who used to show up on tv talk shows, seems to be trying for a comeback with the Tea party.

Apostle Paul prophesied that true Christians will inherit and rule the world. When he said it, they were just a few and often hiding from the fools of their generation.

Idiots just don't learn how to appreciate prophecies.

Even if there will be no Tea Party, liberal, atheistic, evolutionist, gay marrying Democrats are on their way out because it's the law of nature that idiots self-destruct. That is how God designed it to be.

What a bunch of morons.

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Apostle Paul prophesied that true Christians will inherit and rule the world. When he said it, they were just a few and often hiding from the fools of their generation.

Idiots just don't learn how to appreciate prophecies.

Even if there will be no Tea Party, liberal, atheistic, evolutionist, gay marrying Democrats are on their way out because it's the law of nature that idiots self-destruct. That is how God designed it to be.

What a bunch of morons.

The Tea Party. Because the Klan needed rebranding.

Ralph Reed is desperately attempting to become relevant again. He preached the same silliness when the Gingrich extremists were elected in 1994, thus assuring Clinton's re-election.

Theocratic Christian extremists and tea-party racists do have much in common. But like all other psychos, they will feast on each other.

Don't call the other people names when you disagree.

Sarah Palin does that in reverse when she uses phrases like "real Americans," which has no place in any political discourse and amounts to despicable demagoguery.

There are stories in Aesop's fables that show lots of the same crap, SPIDERMEAN2.

Do you ever wonder why so many people think you're such and idiot? Probably not, it would take a certain amount of intelligence to be able to perceive the difference between you and ... anybody who can think.

I suppose from down there in that hole that you live in, nobody notices what a twerp you are. That's how you get away with it, isn't it?

There are stories in the Bible showing that unbelievers were destroyed and that they were written to serve as a lesson for future generations to learn from.

Doomsday is a prophecy which tells that the future generation had not listened and therefore destroyed.

Liberal, atheistic, evolutionist, gay marrying democrats, watch out because you are making the Bible true. Who would then be destroyed to fulfill the Doomsday scenario if you guys don't exist?

If you guys don't exist, the Bible becomes untrue because there will be no unbelievers to destroy.

What a bunch of morons.

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I am not one of those people who have a belief that anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot. I am however uncomfortable when I see people pushing for policies that are opposed to the principles they advocate for.

For example, all those people who oppose same-sex marriage have to understand that in our society, we are governed by laws, not religion. You may not like it, but thats just the way it is. Trying to make laws that discriminate (outlawing same-sex marriage for example) exposes the fact that marriage is really a religious institution and the government has no business in it whatsoever. You have to ask yourself if the way to strengthen traditional marriage is to remove ALL of the benefits the government provides to it. The answer should leave anyone that believes the principal of strengthing marriage a little queasy at the prospect of winning many battle and losing the war. Big time.

The same goes with guys who think that balancing their checkbook gives them the education to dictate economic policy. Magical thinking makes really bad policy. Tea party members who believe that we can just cut spending with adjusting taxes simply haven't done the math. Really. Try and balance the budget starting from those 2 positions. Keep tax policy stable while cutting spending, or keeping spending stable while raising taxes, leads tounsustainable deficits as far as the eye can see. Wanting to keep your cake whole, and also eat it, are incompatible. It astonishes me that holding both at the same time doesn't make peoples head explode. Even so, it can't translate into real policy, any more than proposals to solve the worlds hunger by shipping chunks of the cheese the moon is made of back to earth.

I remember several conversations on various On Faith threads with Tea Party supporters, specifically those who insisted they were not religious types, in fact they told me they were very libertarian on these social issues.

What's the difference between a libertarian and a liberal?

As far as I can tell, the libertarian feels it isn't the government's business what someone else does in their life, who they bonk or love, what kinds of herbal infusions they partake in, or drink, if they own guns ... or anything that is only the business of the individual citizen. They are no more or less likely to feel comfortable with some of the strange things other people choose to do, but hey - it's their business, it's their decision.

The liberal on the other hand wants other people to approve of these possibly deviant lifestyles.

And on the third hand, the gripping hand for you fans of Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle ... the conservative wants the same Big Government so loved by the liberal to enforce the christian rules, sins, commandments, or whatever other christian BS they believe within the current generation of True Believers ...

So how about those libertarian Tea Party folks ... how long are they going to put up with being grouped together with the Big Government Christians?

The author of this article seems to be blithely ignorant of the difference, doesn't she?

THE BIBLE WARNS ABOUT FALSE PROPHETS. THEY SEEM TO HAVE GATHERED TOGETHER AS THE TEA PARTY.

Why can't the media be honest and call these people what they are? I realize that "Proud, Unrepentant Two-time Bush Voters" doesn't have as fresh a ring as misusing the name of a colonial protest AGAINST a tax cut (for the East India tea company), but can't you call a spade a spade?

More than that, how many Koch and co 'research institutes' and 'associations' will it take for you to see *it's all the same dudes?* Claiming to be the what, 'Silent majority' everyone's supposed to fear?

""I'd imagine if the religious fundies and tea-party join together they'll need to come up with a catchy name. Maybe The Grand Old Party, or GOP for short.""

Yep. A wholly-owned subsidiary, just with a media-excuse to 'break Right' when the country's beyond frustrated with even accomodating the pro-corporate policies and religious bigotry of the GOP.

(Told ya so, by the way. It's not like it was hard to see all along if you actually listened to candidates or anything so pre-9/11 or anything. )

They *said* they weren't 'about' pushing right-wing hate agendas, but once in office, claim to have a 'mandate' for them. Before they're even sworn in.

Anyone not see that coming, still thinks they're a prophet?

Interesting comment, fish4. I must admit, however, I have no clue what Ralph Reed did to defraud Native Americans. Could you enlighten me?

I'd imagine if the religious fundies and tea-party join together they'll need to come up with a catchy name. Maybe The Grand Old Party, or GOP for short.

Tommytunes, I find it interesting that you joined the Tea paarty w/o having read the Constitution and are just now getting around to it. You might also consider that those who have studied the Constitution have also read the Federalist Papers & the entire history of the SCOTUS. It's not such a simple project that slogans and single readings about upholding the Constitution makes one knowledgeable about matters that many, including Thomas Jefferson, believed required an educated populace to keep our experiment in democracy alive.

Liberals looking at conservatives are like white people, who used to say all black people look the same. You just don't bother to look at the individual. All you see is someone who is different than you. That's a fairly common human trait.

Conservatives often do the same thing, so I'm not blamimg liberals. It's just useful to understand that tendency when trying to analyze how different groups intereact wih one another to form alliances.

Victory will belong to those who unite these two movements with other groups.

The reason many politicians either respect or fear Sarah Palin is that she successfully works with both Tea Party and conservative Christian groups.

What's the secret?
Listen to people in both groups.
Don't call the other people names when you disagree.
Remind people there a bigger outside threat to both groups.
That just sounds like common sense, right? But common sense really isn't so common these days.

Palin won't get the small percentage of Wall Street that still votes Republican, but in the primaries she'll get a decent percentage of the votes of main street business people, Christian conservatives, small government advocates and libertarians. She'll also wrack up a lot of votes from union members who hate their union bosses and are forced to pay union dues to earn a living.

These groups don't agree on every issue, but they are united against those who would destroy their way of life. All you have ot do is let them know you're on their side and would like a little help.

Millions will answer Sarah Palin's call for assistance, because she answered our call for help when it seemed the Obama flood would wash over the land. Sarah Palin stood with the Tea Party people in small rallies across the country, before anyone knew they would become a powerful political force.

The Tea Party ideology is a racist, survival of the fittest, facist ideology. It is certainly not Christian. Tea Partiers would rather let children beg in the streets and die in the gutters than pay one dime of taxes for social welfare.

Meant to say 'DADT *repeal* ' in the post below.

Pardon my being a *tad* flustered, here, but for supposed experts on the unseen Divine law, it seems a lot of people are playing dumb about some pretty obvious things.

I mean, seriously, dude. Who do you think you're fooling?

They run for office claiming up and down, 'We're a popular movement against taxes and won't be doing all these Religious Right agendas and such we actually talk about a lot but promise 'we're not about' on ABC... Then once they're in office, what's the first eighteen things they claim they have a 'mandate' to do?

Same darn stuff.

This morning I wake up to hear they want to complain that wildly-popular *Net Neutrality* legislation has to wait till they can get the 'voice of the people on that,* and DADT... also wildly popular, is something they want to wait till their next term, cause they claim they know better than what, the 'will of the people' they delayed equality with 'studies' and now want *more* delay and fearmongering and just plain not listening to what people and the military want...

Claiming a 'mandate' to do exactly what they said they wouldn't do on social issues.

Before they're even sworn in.

Who do you think you're fooling, sir?

The Tea Party is just a more concentrated (and toxic) version of the GOP for the past 30 years. They are both heavily financed by the "Big Money" group (Dick Armey, the Koch brothers, Rupert Murdoch), but are very deferential to the "God" group (Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Ralph Reed) for their votes and church organization. Ronald Reagan was the first leader to patch this unholy alliance together and for 30 years they have been struggling with who gets to wear the pants.
I'd say bet on Big Money.

""We are focused completely on the fiscal issues.... We don't touch the social issues simply because that's when we're going to divide people."

This concern, however, actually turns out to be unfounded.""

No *duh,* you know, Mr. What Research foundation again, were you, This Time, Anyway?

...It's *obvious* that the 'Tea Party* is just a repackaging of the 'Religious Right' trying to go back to the 'stealth candidate' days with the usual 'budget hawk' dodge and the not-exactly-dog-whistling even-more-Religious-Right sentiments at 'Values Voters' conferences.

For people supposedly so much about the budget and Constitution, a) Once they get in office, they act just like Religious Right Republicans, ...(only the press briefing to the corporate media ever changed: it's *pretending* to be new and 'populist' cause *the same things screwed up and for that and general reasons of being mean and crazy, became *unpopular,* ) and b) Don't know a bloody *fact* about the budget, economy, or Constitution to save their *lives* if they care so much about any of them.

It's just repackaging the same old noise, hate, and failure with newer faces and more networks.

Tea Partiers often love Ayn Rand, who had nothing but contempt and mockery for religion. It should be quite the entertaining marriage.

Ralph Reed is a Christian? I was not aware that the definition of Christian had been changed. Why would anyone include Ralph Reed in an article on faith. The only faith
Reed has is faith that people are two stupid to remember his involvement in defrauding Native Americans.

I joined the Tea Party because of it's strict adherence to the constitution, not to the bible. I am almost half-done reading the constitution. I am not going to stop now and start reading the bible; the bible is like over 1000 pages, it would take me forever

Jones is one of many commentators who wrongly treat evangelicals as though they're all fundamentalists, when in reality evangelicals are a very diverse group theologically and politically. The Christian Right is largely a fundamentalist movement. I recommend that the PRRI break down their survey figures to see how the stances of fundamentalists jibe with the Tea Partiers. In my experience, they've often been the same people.

Anyone agreeing with " it is not that a big deal if some people have more of a chance in life than others " are not christian, not compassionate and not comforming with the Ethic of Reciprocity. They should call their party : For me, myselph and I.

The Religious Right is dead. Stay that way.