A Muslim response to Juan Williams

So-called "Ahmadi Muslims" are not Muslims at all. Founded by a British secret agent posing as a prophet in British occupied India of the 1800s, the "Ahmadis" (better known as Qadianis) excommunicated the entire Muslim world.

In turn, the entire Muslim world excommunicated the Qadianis. They have no role to play in the world of Islam. Muslims have the right to self-definition and that definition has never included anyone who believes in a prophet after Muhammad. Consequently, the qadiani pretense that they are Muslims is the cause of enormous discord.

Every Muslim knows the last prophet was to be Muhammad.

For an extensive discussion of the qadianis see both:

http://www.irshad.org/other/ext_res.php
and
http://www.nubuwat.org/

SASJ writes:
"Bigots the world over would say the Prophet Muhammed's (Pbuh)charter of privileges to the christian is a fake what makes you think that I should believe what all you said is true.
Anyway it's a pointless argument with a person who calls himself "a kafir" has a closed mind, even lies to prove his point (as I gather from your last comment)and twists and distorts facts to prove his point.
I think what Mr MacDude has said in his comment above should shut you up.
For me at least: Over & out!"

If that charter is not a fake show where is the original? If the Ottomans really took the original then at least show where is the record of the original having been taken away and lost? Nothing of the kind exists.
If that charter is true, then tell me why Umar the Companion of Muhammad laid down the awful 'Pact of Umar" that is mentioned by ibn Khathir in his tafsir (I gave you the link). Why such a huge conflict? Was Umar going against Muhammad?

Tell the what you think are the lies? I have not lied. I challenge you to point out the lies.

I have read MacDude. I agree to some points that he makes but on others he is wrong. There is enough written on where he is wrong for people to know and decide for themselves. You have not directly addressed a single point or question I have raised? Why? Because you cannot, and any Kafir reading this should see that and should understand what it is the "moderates" of Islam really offer them.

Bigots the world over would say the Prophet Muhammed's (Pbuh)charter of privileges to the christian is a fake what makes you think that I should believe what all you said is true.
Anyway it's a pointless argument with a person who calls himself "a kafir" has a closed mind, even lies to prove his point (as I gather from your last comment)and twists and distorts facts to prove his point.
I think what Mr MacDude has said in his comment above should shut you up.
For me at least: Over & out!

If Juan Williams was an analyst then he should be fired. Because any analyst who read the reports would know that the 911 hijackers did not board the planes wearing traditional Muslim dress. They were wearing western (American/European) attire and several had died their hair blond. They were also not faithful Muslims. They drank alcohol, smoked tobacco and, cavorted with strippers. So maybe Juan should be fear those who board planes in traditional western wear.
As an educated African American Juan knows better. If a white woman shared that she was nervous every time she gets on an elevator with a black man because she doesn't to have her purse snatched or get raped, he would be out raged. We cannot deny that there have been some black men have snatched purses and have raped. For the record so have white men, Hispanic men and Asians.
He does not hold all Christians responsible for the actions of the KKK, Timothy McVey, the Branch Dividians, Westboro, or Terry Jones. If he can make distinctions, in this case why can't he, an analyst make similar distinctions in the case of Muslims?
What's most disturbing is his emphasis on the fact that they are "identifying as Muslims." So he'd be more comfortable if they didn't identify but held the same beliefs? Once again, this is exactly what the hijackers did.
Juan, I wonder how long you'd keep your job at Fox if you told the truth about being nervous every time you're in Texas and are passed on the street by two or more white men in a pick up truck because of what happened to James Byrd?
Truthfully, I don't think Juan should have been fired but should have been admonished and reminded of the contract he signed. Have we not learned anything from Shirley Sherrod? I think people are too quick to call for firings for the slightest mistake. Now don't get me wrong. What he said was wrong, stupid, offensive and down right pandering to Bill O and his ilk.
And Juan, at least we now know what it takes for you to sell out. Now working for the people who have openly made racists statements (I believe even about you on occasion). Please take your Minstrel Show money and do some good in the community with it. You owe us and Muslims every where at least that much.
Sleep well. I'm sure your parents are proud of your new found racist views, racist friends and you conscience is clear. Sleep well (although since you are lying down with dogs I hope you keep one eye open).

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hardliners-call-for-deaths-of-surrey-muslims-2112268.html

Hardline Islamists in Britain have been distributing leaflets calling for the murder of AhmadiMuslims in Kingston-upon-Thames whilst mosques have been vandalised in Newham and Crawley. Preachers in south London have also been orchestrating a boycott of Ahmadi businesses and Ofcom has had to reprimand an Islamic satellite channel for repeatedly calling the sect "Wajib-ul Qatal" - an Arabic phrase used to describe those who digress from mainstream Islam that translates as "liable for death".
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Police in Kingston-upon-Thames have opened a hate crime investigation earlier this summer when an Ahmadi woman was handed a leaflet by a man which stated: "Kill [an Ahmadi] and the doors to heaven will be open for you." In Tooting, meanwhile, some mainstream Sunni preachers have urged follower to boycotts Ahmadi businesses.
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SASJ:

As far the letter to the monks goes, it is a forgery. Read
http://markdurie.blogspot.com/2010/01/accentuate-positive-dr-muqtedar-khans.html

"In the light of these considerations, Dr Khan's example of St Catherine's letter is misleading and unfortunate. Dr Khan must surely be aware that scholarly opinion does not regard this document as genuine. It is almost certainly a forgery, created to bolster the security of the Christian monks of the Mount Sinai Monastry. This is why the document no longer exists in its original form: there never was an original letter. In reality the very existence of this document is evidence of the fear under which the monks have lived, as are the impregnable walls of the monastery building itself."

Here is reference to the letter that Calipha umar wrote:
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=9&tid=20986
Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.) This is why the Leader of the faithful `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, demanded his well-known conditions be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from `Abdur-Rahman bin Ghanm Al-Ash`ari that he said, "I recorded for `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians of Ash-Sham: `In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This is a document to the servant of Allah `Umar, the Leader of the faithful, from the Christians of such and such city. When you (Muslims) came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims.
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Read the rest for yourself and see.

SASJ:
I have read Yusuf Ali translation, as well as Mawland Mududi Tahfeem Ul Quran. You discounted the reports by CDN news and wanted to see reports from Dawn and I showed you those and now you are trying to hide behind that those are the works of the Taliban and have nothing to do with Islam.

Look up the case of Lina Joy and then the case of Maniam Murthy in Malaysia and see how the very moderate Islam of Malaysia behaves towards the non-muslims.
You can do a search for yourself and see how the non-muslims are being burned in Sudan or in Nigeria. Or you can see how the Ahmadiyyas in UK are being threatened by the "Taliban" in UK or in Bangladesh. Is that Taliban as well?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4476121.stm

Or erasing the word Muslim of the grave of the Nobel Prize Winner Abdus Samad because he was an Ahmeddiya also the work of Taliban?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8744092.stm

Here's food for thought Mr. Akafir:
PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S
CHARTER OF PRIVILEGES TO CHRISTIANS
LETTER TO THE MONKS OF ST. CATHERINE MONASTERY

Dr. A. Zahoor and Dr. Z. Haq
(Copyright 1990, 1997, All Rights Reserved)

In 628 C.E. Prophet Muhammad (s) granted a Charter of Privileges to
the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai . It consisted of
several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such
topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and
movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain
their property, exemption from military service, and the right to
protection in war.

An English translation of that document is presented below.

This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those
who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.

Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them,
because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against
anything that displeases them.

No compulsion is to be on them.

Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks
from their monasteries.

No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to
carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses.

Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and
disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure
charter against all that they hate.

No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.

The Muslims are to fight for them.

If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place
without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her
church to pray.

Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented
from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.

No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the
Last Day (end of the world).

This charter of privileges has been honored and faithfully applied by
Muslims throughout the centuries in all lands they ruled.

Your ref. to Dawn and the story about the Taliban shows how little you understand the situation in Pakistan. Suicide attacks on a daily basis are taking place in almost every city of Pakistan because we call the Taliban terrorists and Militants and they call us Mushriqs. We feel the Taliban are misguided people who are distorting the fair name of Islam.It's because of them that bigots like you have a handle to beat Islam with.
I suggest you read Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translation & commentry of the Holy Quran
in English first and then comment.

Mr. Williams's comment had nothing to do with fear as referenced in previous comments. It had everything to do with DISCERNMENT which we all have no matter the race, religion, or political status. We all use discernment based on experiences and beliefs. If Pakastan was terroized by Japan, using airlines to carry out their terrorism, would they not get nervous getting on a plane in their country and see an Asian boarding the same flight?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8179823.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Gojra_riots
http://criticalppp.com/archives/19378

Do a search for yourself and see that the above links do not even begin to start scratching the surface of the atrocities and crimes against the minorities in Pakistan.
It is not only Pakistan. Please look at the above links and then do a search for the treatment of minorities in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangla Desh, Yemen,etc. Pick any muslim country and look at the laws for the minorities and that should tell you how Islam treats the non-muslims.

Look in the mirror and see what you are defending as you call others a bigot!!

Cont'd:
"A certified BIGOT talking through his hat!"
Yelling bigot instead of addressing the actual crimes being committed by muslims in Pakistan will not and does not work any more. Anyone can do a search and see for themselves what is happening to the non-muslims in muslim countries.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/04-pakistani-christians-live-fear-churches-say-qs-05
http://kashifhkhan.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/the-plight-of-pakistani-christians/
http://elizabethkendal.blogspot.com/2010/08/islamic-intolerance-is-devouring.html

Go ahead point to any report of the CDN that is a lie. One sided? You want people to dismiss because it is a christian organisation that collects and collates the news over the months?
Here are a few other sources including the one you want (Dawn):
http://www.dawnnews.tv/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/15-pakistans-religious-minorities-report-violence-nf-01
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/06-zardari-takes-notice-of-court-shooting-rs-05
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/06-pakistani-christians-face-aid-discrimination-vatican-rs-04

akafir:Compass Direct News' aim:,,,,,"analyses of situations and events facing Christians persecuted for their faith."
Too purile and one sided. Whats their proof - CDN? Huh...
If you want to hear the truth read Pakistan's Daily DAWN. Website: DAWN.com

Akafir:It's just a question of how you look at it: 'catastrophic' he meant for inter-faith harmony.
And where on earth did you get that list of "burning, beheading and raping little girls". It's very obvious you have never been to Pakistan: A certified BIGOT talking through his hat!

"When Pastor Jones of Florida mentioned that he was going to burn the Quran it was the Bishop of Lahore who warned that a thing like that would be catastrophic and must be avoided at all costs."

Why would it be catastrophic? What did he expect to happen? Do you understand that by writing that you are telling what the world can expect from the "passion" of the followers of Muhammad? What did the Bishop of Lahore know? Who do you think he thought would be bear the brunt of the anger of the Muslims? Who do you think has always borne the brunt of the anger of the Muslims in Pakistan?
I did not like a ghoul look through that list to find for you the burning and the beheading and raping of little girls but it all in there. Read the list and then tell me what you think the status of the interfaith dialog is in Pakistan?

SASJ: I suggest that you read more beyond spending time at Washington Post.

http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/pakistan/

Pakistan
Pakistani Muslims Beat Elderly Christian Couple Unconscious Published in 2010
SARGODHA, Pakistan, October 21 (CDN) — An 80-year-old Christian in southern Punjab Province said Muslims beat him and his 75-year-old wife, breaking his arms and legs and her skull, because he refused a prostitute they had offered him. From his hospital bed in Vehari, Emmanuel Masih ....

Pakistan
Pakistani Muslims Beat Elderly Christian Couple Unconscious Published in 2010
SARGODHA, Pakistan, October 21 (CDN) — An 80-year-old Christian in southern Punjab Province said Muslims beat him and his 75-year-old wife, breaking his arms and legs and her skull, because he refused a prostitute they had offered him. From his hospital bed in Vehari, Emmanuel Masih ....
Muslim Mob Targets Christian, Family in Murder Case Published in 2010
SHEIKHUPURA, Pakistan, October 11 (CDN) — A young Christian has been jailed for nearly eight months and his family was attacked after a Muslim friend framed him for murder, he said. Yassir Masih, 18, has been locked up at Sheikhupura District Jail since his arrest in late February. In an ....
Muslim Extremists Murder Christian Family Published in 2010
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, September 30 (CDN) — Islamic extremists killed a Christian lawyer, his wife and their five children in northwestern Pakistan this week for mounting a legal challenge against a Muslim who was charging a Christian exorbitant interest, local sources said. Police ....
Muslim Mob Attacks Christians in Gujrat, Pakistan Published in 2010
SARGODHA, Pakistan, September 27 (CDN) — A mob of Muslim extremists on Thursday (Sept. 23) shot at and beat dozens of Christians, including one cleared of “blasphemy” charges, in Punjab Province’s Gujrat district, Christian leaders said. The attack on Tariq Gill, exonerated of charges of ....
Muslims Resume Building on Christian Graveyard in Pakistan Published in 2010
SARGODHA, Pakistan, September 1 (CDN) — Muslims led by a hard-line cleric on Friday (Aug. 27) resumed building on a Christian cemetery in Mandi Bhawaldin, desecrating more graves in spite of a local government order to halt construction, according to the All Pakistan Minorities Alliance ....

There are hundreds more reports listed at that site. Tell me which one is false and made up?

Akafir:If you want to hear the truth then listen: Here in Peshawar within a radius of 1 mile of each other we have 3 churches and 1 Hindu Mandir. For the Sikhs we have places of worship in Hassanabdal.The catholic church near my house is adjacent to our 2nd largest mosque(wall to wall)in town and they hold service regularly every Sunday. At the height of Taliban manifestation not once were these churches attacked or bombed. I have yet to hear of the things you've said regarding the minorities.
The christians, Hindus and Sikhs live very peacefully with their muslim brothers; it's only when something is said or done to muslims in Pakistan or abroad by the Christians/Hindus that riots take place and people are killed but the government steps in immediately and brings things under control. When Pastor Jones of Florida mentioned that he was going to burn the Quran it was the Bishop of Lahore who warned that a thing like that would be catastrophic and must be avoided at all costs. Finally we have Christians and Hindus as members of Parliament.
Now how does this compare with what you have said.
If you dont believe me, be my guest - visit Peshawar and I'll prove every word that I've written.

All religions need to openly and actively condemn terror and hate.

I agree with much of what Mr. Ahmed writes. It would be nice if thoughtful Muslim spokespeople like himself would speak out against the relentless and grotesque depictions of Jews that is common discourse throughout the Muslim world, often starting with its political leaders and only amplified by its journalists (without the kind of rejoinder and open debate that Mr. Williams comments have sparked).

SASJ:"I am living in Peshawar, in the killing fields and the comments I have read so far are most disturbing. Akbar Ahmed is single handedly trying to bring about inter-faith harmony which you people are bent upon destroying."

There is a very large difference between Muslims and Islam. Most of my family is muslims and they are very nice people. Islam is another matter.

You want interfaith harmony then be honest and truthful. Tell what is the status of the non-muslims in your country? Tell how many christians and hindus are regularly killed, beheaded, and burnt in your country? Tell how many very young christian and hindu girls are kidnapped and converted to Islam forcibly? Why such brutality against the non-muslims in your country? And why is it that all this brutality is being done in the name of Islam? Can you point to a single real effort by Akbar Ahmed to speak up on behalf of the killed and beheaded Kafirs in Pakistan? Now compare that to how many muslims are being killed in USA just because they are muslims? Look at the non-muslims and see what is being done to them to see what hate is? Be honest and then talk about interfaith dialog.

Dozas: "There is a very thin veneer that binds us all as a Nation, so practice the Golden Rule. It's a great life if you don't weaken, so don't give into FEAR. Pretty simple stuff--it's called The Right Stuff."

Rubbish. Fear is a natural survival mechanism. Inordinate fear is what needs to be rejected. Did you know that in the Islamic version of the Golden Rule, non-muslims are completely excluded? If you are a kafir, what you feel and what you think is entirely irrelevant. There is a difference between Islam and Muslims. If you are a Kafir, understand Islam and understand what Sharia holds for you and for your children and grandchildren. You should be afraid for them if Sharia wins out.

Asilz: "Yet when a war of choice is launched on Iraq and some one million Iraqis (Muslims and Christians) are murdered and Iraq is bombed back to the stone age-all on false pretext-no one cares about them but we are reminded at every turn of those who were murdered on 9/11.Both were innocent except the number of Iraqis are far larger-but who cares...they are only iraqis."

You are merely mouthing the propaganda of Al Qaeda. You lie about Islam and you lie about facts and figures of Iraq war. Most of the killings done in Iraq are by your brothers in Islam on those that they declare as Kafirs. Muslim killing muslims dwarfs any deaths caused by the US forces. How many muslims did Saddam kill? How many muslims did Asad kill in Syria?

We are becoming the Land of the Free, Home of the Fearmongers. People that agree with Juan Williams have forsaken everything that this Country has stood for and have given into manufactured fear. To them it is palpable, it is real; and, it makes them do stupid things like Williams did.

There is a very thin veneer that binds us all as a Nation, so practice the Golden Rule. It's a great life if you don't weaken, so don't give into FEAR. Pretty simple stuff--it's called The Right Stuff.

Asizk,

Stop lying. Islam does not mean peace. It means submission to Allah. Muslims means one who submits to Islam. Then you write "The Prophet asserted that it was easier for him to see the Kaba' in Mecca destroyed than to see the loss of an innocent human life.", and that is the standard nonsense to fool Kafirs who do not know better. Who is innocent? Is that innocence to be gauged by Sharia law? Why don't you tell the Kafirs what the very next verse after the one you quote? Your Allah says (Koran 5:33)
005.033
YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

What does it mean to fight Allah and his messenger? All muslim scholars agree that those who reject Islam and speak their minds about it are fighting Allah and Muhammad. Is that what you are telling the Kafirs? Iran hangs dissidents regularly by claiming that anyone who is against an Islamic government is fighting Allah and Muhammad.

http://www.iranian.com/main/2010/jan/rahmanipour-and-alizamani "The two were among 11 people sentenced to death on charges including moharebeh (waging war against God), trying to overthrow the Islamic establishment and membership of armed groups, the ISNA students agency said."

You really should be ashamed of yourself for lying for such a criminal and evil ideology.

Juan Williams is an intelligent man, and I know EXACTLY why he is "nervous" about seeing people who "present themselves as Muslims" on an airliner. It's because when he sees a devout Muslim, he knows he is seeing someone who would like nothing better than to see the United States under Sharia Law. Under Sharia Law, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights would be nothing but happy memories. I wish the professor would answer a question for me: Do YOU, professor, think America should be under Sharia Law? I'm not expecting an honest answer, though, since answers to questions like this are undoubtedly covered under taqiyya!

Admittedly, we all get nervous when placed in uncomfortable situations - I still have women clutch purses close to their chests when I pass - I'm Black - but changing viewpoints takes more than admitting you have an issue, esp if you are a pundit. Williams, of all people, should know how it feels when people get uncomfortable when they see you for no good reason. He also knows that he needs to examine why he feels this way and get past it, if he can, rather than deciding to have a processing session on television. Did NPR make the right call? Of course they did; they are one of few objective news outlets left. They cannot afford to appear partial or biased - hint, Fox, MSNBC, et.al - and can't have someone on their staff that undermines their objectivity. Mr. Williams can now go on Fox and talk about how the media has been circumvented by political correctness and make a lot of money. NPR did him a favor and he did them a favor. The debt has been paid.....

Grow up America. The world has more to fear from us than Muslims. That's a fact Jack.

JMKenny,
Am always amazed that the 1.6 billion Muslims are sentneced to in absentia and are assigned to guilt by association because a few crazy radicals attacked on 9/11 and murdered among others over 300 Muslims.

Posted by: asizk

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Bin Laden had a 50% approval rating among Muslims following 9/11.

I request all those Islamophobics who have written above to read the letter (http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/1906/friendship-and-flood-relief-a-us-helicopter-pilots-tale/)of an American chopper pilot to the International Herald Tribune. He flew relief missions in Swat for the victims of the floods in Pakistan. From his letter and his parents comments you will get a fair idea what they think about the
majority of the Muslims (170 million)whom you call blood thirsty Jihadists. according to the Koran Jihad against infidels is ONLY fought in self defence. The Jihadists that most of you, Mr. Williams and Mr. O'Rielley talk of are those Jihadists (monsters) created by the Americans, Saudis and Pakistanis in Madressahs all over Pakistan to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. Having achieved their goal the Americans walked away leaving these unlettered Taliban to prey upon Pakistan because it supported America's war on terror. So far the Pakistanis have lost 33,000 soldiers and civilians to suicide bombers in its war on terrorism. I am living in Peshawar, in the killing fields and the comments I have read so far are most disturbing. Akbar Ahmed is single handedly trying to bring about inter-faith harmony which you people are bent upon destroying.

Well, well - 10 years on and people are still repeating and discussing the same drivel - 9/11 - Arabs hijack how many planes and bring down World Trade Center (2 towers), etc. etc. Scientists have shown without a shred of doubt that the World Trade Center could not have been destroyed in this manner and then there's the mystery of tower 7, fairies destroyed this building? But ALL of you mainstream journalists are morons, parrots, and according to me total idiots! It is irrelevant to me and many others at this point whether or not you get fired for your other slurs, because all of mainstream journalists ARE irrelevant!

If you face the eyes and mouth of a rabid dog, good luck trying to sit down and have a calm logical discussion. The Radical Muslims in the name of Allah are murderous, and would sooner kill someone labeled an infidel, than to kneel in reverence and impose Shariah law... Very unrealistic!!!!!!!!!! When America was founded, we were strong and willing to fight for that in which we believed. Re: comment from post "I am not advocating political correctness at all. Muslim and non-Muslim leaders really need to talk about the hard issues coolly and calmly and most importantly with civility. The American way, going back to the Founding Fathers, is to disagree with civility so that these differences did not become a clash of civilizations."

JMKenny,
Am always amazed that the 1.6 billion Muslims are sentneced to in absentia and are assigned to guilt by association because a few crazy radicals attacked on 9/11 and murdered among others over 300 Muslims.

Yet when a war of choice is launched on Iraq and some one million Iraqis (Muslims and Christians) are murdered and Iraq is bombed back to the stone age-all on false pretext-no one cares about them but we are reminded at every turn of those who were murdered on 9/11.Both were innocent except the number of Iraqis are far larger-but who cares...they are only iraqis.

jews launched a barbaric war on 1.5 million besieged Palestinian refugees in 2008/9 and murdered 1500 of then including 400 infants and children-and every one is mute because it was "in-self-defense"!!!!! These are the refugees that jews violently ethnically cleansed them in 1948 from their towns and cities which are illegally called now "isrli" cities.

The Quran is crystal clear about the sanctity of human life:
Al Maeda, 5:32: "…whosoever slayeth a person, except for a person (manslaughter), or for corruption (mischief, sedition or oppression) in the land, it shall be as through he had slain all mankind, and whosoever bringeth life (saves a life) to one it shall be as though he had brought life to all mankind…."

The Prophet asserted that it was easier for him to see the Kaba' in Mecca destroyed than to see the loss of an innocent human life. Only those involved in a military conflict should be fought: civilians, places of worship, property, animals, trees and crops should all be spared-a war ethic emphasized and practiced by the Prophet and generations of Muslims throughout history. Any military activity that does not conform to these criteria is illegitimate.

Islam litrally means peace and peace is the natural state of affairs in the Muslim creed and war is sanctioned only in self-defense:
Al Anfal, 8: 61:”But if the enemy Incline towards peace, Do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One That heareth and knoweth All things."

Should we condemn Christianity because Hitler gased millions of jews and should we condemn all Americans because Trumen nuked hundred of thousands of innocent Japaense civilans in ww11?

American Muslims are just as American as any one-and they are here to stay.

Honestly, I have to admit that I get a little nervous when I see "Muslim" looking men board a plane and all of my family is Muslim. It just happens and then its over.

When I see people in head scarves and long beards I see people who don't hold the same liberal democratic values I hold. I don't want to limit their freedom in anyway but I know they aren't aligned with the ideals that make the US great.

I feel the same way when I see Orthodox Jews or Catholic Nuns and Priests--their relgiousity screams at me and says their life is guided by irrational beliefs and that souls are more important than flesh and blood human beings. Am I bigot? Or do I simply hold a different world view.

And what does this have to do with the millions of Muslims living here in the US, who have assimilated to American and Western culture, and who pose no serious threat to anyone? Sure, you'll have that oddball that refuses to blend in with their surroundings, but you get that with any immigrant.
As for the one country that is not hateful toward non-Muslims, well there is Turkey and Lebanon, which has a lot of different religions living together in one country. While they're considered Muslim countries, they are very secular in nature.
I would suggest that you take your own advice, take your tongue out of your own cheek, and start thinking for a change.
Posted by: ClandestineBlaze
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ClandestineBlaze, apparently you have not been reading the news lately about Turkey and Lebanon.

Juan Williams was just expressing what millions of other people are thinking all over the world.No one fears people dressed in Amish garb or Hindu garb or Orthodox Jewish garb. Because none of those groups are associated with violence and intolerance worldwide. It is muslims who are associated with suicide bombing, airplane hijacking and terrorist attacks.Not just in the US but in Nigeria, Thailand,India,Ethiopia,Russia,Israel,China,Saudi Arabia,Iraq, UK, Ireland, Spain and Iraq.I haven't even named every country in which muslims have been involved in attacks or terrorists plots. This is a worldwide problem and people are tired of it. Wherever you have islam violence, hatred and intolerance seem to follow.

Are NPR and the rest of the media cowards or Islamophobic? Why is Islam the only religion protected from ridicule? They are afraid. Christians and Jews are attacked every day as free speech as it should be. All religionists are delusional.

"Akafir",
U are akafir-and u are making a fool of yourself by advertsing your ignorance,hate and bigtory against Islam and Muslims.

In fact u are a false witness: I challenge you to give one documented and credible source that Islam or the Prophet ever ordered the behaeding of a person.

Your "isrl" have been murdring Palestinians (bote Muslim and Chrstain) for the past sixty three years day in and day out and still stealing their land as we speak.

Besides why hide your ID:your venom speakes out loud that your are either an AIPAC or a Mosad operative-working full time as a propagandist.

"codexjust1 writes:

"Now I’m not a bigot, but when I see someone wearing the cross when I board an airplane – choosing to identify themselves as a Christian – I get nervous."

When was the last time (including all the examples you give) when the christians were waving their Bibles and telling the world that Jesus tells them to behead the non-christians?

If you cannot see the difference between Islam and Muslims, then you do need to get your head examined. Most muslims ignore the teachings of Muhammad and the Quran to live in the modern world.

Can you tell me a single muslim country where the laws are not and have not been discriminatory and hateful towards the non-muslims? Why is Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia, all countries that claim to be Islamic republics and all have Shariat Courts filled with hatred for the non-muslims?

And try getting that tongue out of your cheek and start thinking.

Posted by: AKafir | October 21, 2010 2:07 PM "
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And what does this have to do with the millions of Muslims living here in the US, who have assimilated to American and Western culture, and who pose no serious threat to anyone? Sure, you'll have that oddball that refuses to blend in with their surroundings, but you get that with any immigrant.

As for the one country that is not hateful toward non-Muslims, well there is Turkey and Lebanon, which has a lot of different religions living together in one country. While they're considered Muslim countries, they are very secular in nature.

I would suggest that you take your own advice, take your tongue out of your own cheek, and start thinking for a change.

abu_ibrahim -
Did the 3000+ people who were killed by the Muslims on the four planes that were used as giant bombs on 9/11/01 meet any of your criteria for Juan Williams? No, they did not. Apprehension is a natural response. Anyone who tries to state that they can walk anywhere in the world without apprehension that someone from some group/race/faith/etc. might harm them is beyond foolish.
Apprehension has kept the human race evolving. If our early ancestors did not recognize potential danger and react to it (if only to keep a wary eye on it), most of us would not be here today.
It is unfortunate that a faction of a very large religion has created this situation. I would love to see the majority of the Muslims denounce the faction that continues to kill in the name of Islam as vigorously as they denouce people who speak their minds about their fears.

THE PROFESSOR DOES NOT "GET IT!"

What the Professor needs to "get" is that members of HIS religion, in the name of HIS religion BUTCHERED thousands of Americans on American soil which is an ACT OF WAR!

Just how are Americans supposed to respond? Americans are being "guarded" and in a "self-defense" mode.

When 9-11 occurred, did you see the celebrations in the streets of Moslem cities in the Middle East? The news organizations aired it on the evening news.

So, IF as so many so-called "Moderate" Moslems are not supportive of the so-called "Jihad" against the U.S., then WHERE IS the CAMPAIGN by "Moderate Moslems" standing UP against those criminals that have somehow hijacked an entire RELIGION?

What the "MODERATE MOSLEMS" should be doing right now is raising their anti-jihadist VOICES LOUDLY AND CLEARLY AGAINST those who are using Islam to justify their crimes against innocent citizens around the world.

BUT, that is NOT happening. The MOSLEMS, including the Professor are NOT RAISING hell against the jihadists. Instead, the Professor is writing memos about how "disappointed" he is about Mr. Williams' remarks.

Got that?

There is NO OUTRAGE by the Professor that thousands of Americans were butchered by MOSLEMS IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. But he IS writing about one news analyst who dared to SAY what MOST Americans think about the Moslem religion and those who look different from Americans; particularly on an aircraft.

How many MORE aircraft need to be hijacked and detonated before the PROFESSOR gets the motivation to organize a national and worldwide campaign AGAINST the jihadists and confront THEM for smearing what the Professor defends as a credible religious belief?

The Professor needs to understand what the "stakes" are. If the "jihadists" win, the Professor's religion and its "believers" will lose.

And, the Professor is "disappointed" in Mr. Williams?

Give us a break, Professor!

codexjust1 writes:

"Now I’m not a bigot, but when I see someone wearing the cross when I board an airplane – choosing to identify themselves as a Christian – I get nervous."

When was the last time (including all the examples you give) when the christians were waving their Bibles and telling the world that Jesus tells them to behead the non-christians?

If you cannot see the difference between Islam and Muslims, then you do need to get your head examined. Most muslims ignore the teachings of Muhammad and the Quran to live in the modern world.

Can you tell me a single muslim country where the laws are not and have not been discriminatory and hateful towards the non-muslims? Why is Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia, all countries that claim to be Islamic republics and all have Shariat Courts filled with hatred for the non-muslims?

And try getting that tongue out of your cheek and start thinking.

Wow. Speaking the truth hurts. Comparing a reasonable, although unlikely, fear of being blown up with bigotry is really pushing the envelope. I don't equate all Muslims with the crazies. However, when I observed six mid eastern men about the same age as the hijackers on 9-11, waiting for the same flight as I did in Atlanta the thought of 9-11 crossed my mind. Does that make me a bigot or a coward as noted by one of the commentators? I think not. It makes me rational. I took the flight anyway because the chances of the six being six of the crazies is very very slight. I like NPR programs, I've even contributed in the past. My fear is that given the stupidity of NPR leadership equating honesty about a human fear that many more people than just myself will stop supporting the stupidity with their donations. I guess, however, that doesn't concern the real "left." So what if you lose your platform? You'll be P.C.

I have heard ex-Muslims speak of myriad reasons they could no longer stand with that belief system. They themselves say the peaceful Muslims are afraid of the terroristic mindset of those Islamic leaders who are in training to destroy our Christian-Judeo based USA. We have been forced for years to be politically correct, but have left common sense at the door! In America we have not war-ed with or bombed those who champion the rights to freedom, peace, respect for human beings, no matter their theological loyalties. We have known the fear instilled by these radical Muslims. When a spoken observation of the concerns regarding the anxiety now felt when we are unsure of our safety (& for loved ones), cannot critics recognize the threats that have been made, are being taken seriously. It has been done before, we believe the evil actions done on 9/11 and in other countries daily, are sufficient warnings that need to be considered forewarnings. I don't believe we are as naive and won't go to the slaughter easily. If others are wearing rose-colored glasses of across the board Islamic toleration, then they need to butt out. The radical Muslims enjoy causing this consternation, it is a terror tactic. Because our administration has portrayed weakness, indecision,liberal disregard for morality, we have been targeted. We better take this seriously. You won't be given another chance, if you mistep, are uninformed enough to not see warning signals; if intuition of self preservation is ignored, these RADICAL Muslims will fulfill their promises of continued terror. Shariah Law, attitudes of ownership and enslavement of women, desire to conquer anyone that has been judged by them as infidels (most of the world. Indeed, remain suspicious as the RADICALs outnumber those who are theoretically innocently Muslims. There is a faction who is uninformed, they do not see that they themselves are pawns, have been brainwashed; sadly if attacks are made on us, they will see their newfound American home a shell of what it once was. I suppose they have families they love, they can be very honest and walk away from this Islamic control. It has been voiced that they are fearful of making this choice, then obviously, we should be afraid of the unknown Muslims, and suspect until shown otherwise.

All strong devotees of any religion make me nervous. A pox on all your houses.

Juan Williams is not a news reporter. He is an analyst. Not only is it OK for him to be subjective, that is what he is SUPPOSED to do. That is what NPR pays him to do.

It is news reporters who are supposed to be objective and neutral (not that too many of them succeed at that). Juan Williams is not a news reporter.

When moderate Muslims start taking on their radical elements, actively, aggressively and vigorously, I'll be sympathetic to those who worry about painting with a broad brush.

But that's not happening. I'm tired of everyone telling us we have to be PC when there is such tacit acceptance of these murderous terrorists by members of their own religion.

This is NPR's loss. Juan Williams isn't going to suffer at all.

But NPR will not only lose a great commentator and radio host, they stand a good chance to lose the federal funding they have been sucking on for years to further their progressive agenda.

In the aftermath of the 7/7 attack on London polls were taken in Britain on the attitude of UK Muslims toward suicide bombers. The results that I read were printed in the Guardian, hardly a right wing newspaper. They reported that 6% of Britain's Muslims would be suicide bombers and an additional 24% supported suicide bombers. Therefore, just under 1 in 3 Muslim residents in the UK were prepared to be terrorists. This means that there are anywhere from 500,000 to 1,000,000 residents of the UK who one way or another support terrorism. I am presenting this as food for thought. In addition, I want to note that within the past day or so, Muslim terrorists in the Philippines bombed a bus and killed more than 50 people. This story has not to the best of my knowledge noted in the American press. For reasons that to me are unknown, the American press refuses to present stories of Muslim terrorism in the Philippines, Thailand, Nigeria, and elsewhere.The media and elites in this country refuse to recognize what is in fact happening in the world.

Tongue firmly in cheek, but here goes...

The Holocaust – Christians
Massacre of Muslim men and boys at Srebrenica – Christians
Unrestrained shelling of Grozny – Christians
Irish Republican Terrorism – Christians
Northern Irish Protestant Terrorism – Christians
Nuclear bombing of civilians at Nagasaki – Christians
Nuclear bombing of civilians at Hiroshima – Christians
The extermination of the Native Americans – Christians
Genocide in the Belgian Congo – Christians
Oklahoma City Bombing – Christians

Now I’m not a bigot, but when I see someone wearing the cross when I board an airplane – choosing to identify themselves as a Christian – I get nervous.

Mr. Ahmed, before lecturing us on how we should think or express ourselves, please tell vast majority of Muslims who sympathize with terrorists (don't believe it? see the public opinion in polls in Muslim countries) when it comes to Jihad against infidel, to privately and publically condemnIs the killers among them.

Are you any more neutral than (analyst)Juan Williams? Is it OK for professors to be biased and not journalists?

Civility doesn't mean muzzling views you disagree with.

A. Ahmed,
you wrote: Nothing is more dangerous than...a lack of knowledge. I disagree: lack of common sense is more dangesous. For example, common sense and rational thinking tell me that there is no just supreme being as major religions claim, considering that there are with us species of obligate predators; also considering that the slow moving tectonic plates under us are causing unpredictable suffering and death of innocent peoples.
Yes, sorry but common sense and rational thinking is more important.

Muslims do not live in a “heated political environment” in this country today. If Muslims live in the United States they live in a free and open society, which includes free and open speaking and thinking. If Muslims are living in the United States it is by choice and not force. No religion, including the Muslim religion, receives special protection against peoples thoughts about their religion and nether does any religion receive special protection under the U.S. Constitution. NPR issued a statement about Mr. Williams; “His remarks on The O'Reilly Factor this past Monday were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices…” Exactly what are editorial standards and practices of NPR or any news organization? Does that mean one can’t voice their true opinions, even though we are guaranteed ‘freedom of speech’ in this country? Does it mean that a NPR employee, or any news organization employee, can’t voice their feelings when outside of the ‘office’? We also have ‘freedom of religion’ in this country, which means we can either praise or condemn a specific religion or religion in general- without reprisals. Maybe Mr. Williams feared the wrong organization. When political correctness is placed above personal opinion then we are in trouble in this country. If I look at this closer, in light of a quote from an NPR Article (“His status was earlier shifted from staff correspondent to analyst after he took clear-cut positions about public policy on television and in newspaper opinion pieces.”) it appears Mr. Williams’ comment of Fox News was exactly what NPR had been waiting for so they could get rid of Mr. Williams and his “clear-cut positions about public policy on television and in newspaper opinion pieces” I didn’t always agree with Mr. Williams opinions, but I never felt he wasn’t honest and sincere. Why would NPR fire Mr. Williams for speaking his mind, when in fact he didn’t say anything many Americans didn’t think themselves? Who is more out of line; Mr. Williams for speaking his mind or NRP for firing Mr. Williams for speaking his mind? Religion is not a heated political environment in this country. We still have freedom of thought in this country, and heaven forbid if we should ever have the ‘thought police’ preventing us from thinking our thoughts and speaking our thoughts.

Delongl Wrote:

Did Juan Williams get fired for being honest or just because his body reacts nervously beyond his conscious control?
Let all those who haven't had the same thoughts in their life throw the first stone.

I do not have those thought.

And I thought the whole point was NOT TO THROW STONES at all, regardless of what religion, if any, you believe in.

Sad, this is so very sad. Afraid of Muslims?? Who is Mr. Juan Williams, what has he done, that he should be afraid of Muslims?

He is not an apostate. He is not an Ahmadiyya, pretending to be a Muslim in Pakistan.

He is not a Zionist. He is not an apologist for the Zionist entity. He has not sold Muslim Arab land to Zionists.

He is not a Christian missionary. He has not tried to snatch precious Muslim souls and dupe them into believing in any «trinity».

He has not seduced any Muslim girl, nor has he defied a girl's father's wishes by luring her away from the Muslim man her father has engaged her to.

He has not drawn, published, translated or republished any insulting cartoons of the Prophet (PBUH!). He has not written a novel with a character named «Mahound», an insult to the Prophet (PBUH). He has not made a film accusing the Holy Koran of inciting hatred and violence.

He has not tortured Muslims at a prison in Iraq or an air force base in Afghanistan or a «Club Gitmo» in Cuba. He has not arrested any innocent American Muslim on a «material witness» warrant and held him naked in jails for 16 days. He has not broken into a Masjid in occupied Palestine to scrawl hate slogans or burn copies of the Holy Koran.

There is no fatwa against Mr. Juan Williams. O Juan, those Muslims on the airplane, you have nothing to fear from them. They are just trying to get from one place to another, just as you are.

The nationwide anti-Muslim propaganda machine has got to you, O Juan. Do not listen to them, rather listen to Motorist Rodney King, he says, ¿cannot we all get along?

>>I am not advocating political correctness at all. Muslim and non-Muslim leaders really need to talk about the hard issues coolly and calmly and most importantly with civility.

CIVILITY?? I believe that word is of topmost importance to the conflicts presented between 'civilizations'. When one civilization that respects freedom for all butts up against a second that enslaves its female half and basically refuses to educate anyone there is a problem.

Appparently, Mr. Williams violated Mark Twain's classic rule: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

Did Juan Williams get fired for being honest or just because his body reacts nervously beyond his conscious control?

Let all those who haven't had the same thoughts in their life throw the first stone.

9/11 Hijackers -- Muslims
Shoe Bomber – Muslim
Underwear Bomber – Muslim
No liquids on board – Muslim terrorist plot

What is so wrong with or hard to understand about Juan Williams’ remarks? I wonder whether Mr. Khaldun is not “nervous” flying on airplanes with his fellow Muslims.

wulkan wrote:

It is hard to overcome the perception that Islam is not engaged in a jihad against western civilization, our American way of life, and the values and principles we hold dear. Mr. Williams showed courage in expressing his raw fears.

I DO NOT find it hard to overcome that perception. In fact I do not have that perception at all.

I do find it ironic that wulkan would categorize Mr. Williams as having "COURAGE" to express his raw FEARS. Wouldn't the courageous thing be to not have raw fear, especially fear that are not born out by facts?

One major factor that has led to the understandable and prevelant "worried" and "nervous" feelings that Mr. Williams voiced on behalf of the majority of Americans is interestingly (and ironically) linked to the title of the piece. "A Muslim Response...".

If this war is truly not an ideological battle with the "muslim world", then the religion's leaders need to openly, regularly and vehemently distance theselves from the supposed "extremist". This is not the case.

The prominent Imams, Sheiks and Mullahs across the Middle East are at best complacent in their silence, while many are complicit by their teachings. Regardless of the decentralized nature of Islam - it would be rather easy for a real central message to be preached and followed if there was a genuine interest in promoting their purported peaceful values.

Until that happens - it is only logical that mistrust will prevail as the Muslim leadership (and subsequently, every believer) reaps what they have sown.

It is my hope that through these types of discussions and a sincere introspective process by all parties - that such a day comes soon.

Akbar,

The firing of Juan Williams is merely an indication of why the left in USA has become incapable of facing a simple fact. Political correctness gone viral requires that when one says "muslims" that it must mean "All muslims". It is true that muslims are killing and beheading americans, and it is true that any average american flying does feel nervous when he is on the plane with someone who overtly and obviously identifies himself as a muslim. But that is heard and understood by the leftists as "ALL muslims" are killing and "All muslims" are a threatening. That is patently false.

NPR's actions are deplorable and I would like to see their public funding slashed.

The fact that Obama is afraid of going to a Sikh temple shows that the team around him is incompetent. He could have worn a baseball cap, or a US military cap and no one would have raised an eyebrow, but apparently that was beyond their paygrade!!

You write: "Muslim and non-Muslim leaders really need to talk about the hard issues coolly and calmly and most importantly with civility."
Why don't you start the ball rolling and state why are the actual laws of the muslim countries around the world so discriminatory and hateful towards the non-muslims? These laws are all derived from Sharia, which accepts the "Pact of Umar" as the basis for the laws for non-muslims in muslim countries. Why is it that the non-muslims are being killed and suppressed in such a violent way in your country of Pakistan? Have you ever in your entire life ever actually done or said to the people in Pakistan that what they are doing to the non-muslims is wrong and evil? I know you write and tell the Kafirs that they need to be more sensitive to the muslims among them, but what have you said and done to help the non-muslims in muslim countries, or even your country of Pakistan?
How many muslims have been killed and beheaded in USA? Compare that to the number of christians that have been killed, beheaded or burnt alive in Pakistan. How many very young (younger than 12 years old) christian and hindu girls are kidnapped and forcibly converted to Islam in Pakistan monthly? What recourse do their parents have when the pakistani courts find that the conversions are Islamically legal? Have you ever written a single word against any of that evil in your own country? You have not, and I would like to know why not? Please tell us.

Juan Williams is dead right. Since 9/11 there have been multiple attempts, exclusively by muslims, to kill as many civilians as possible by blowing up passenger aircraft. The shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, and the 2006 transatlantic plot, to name but a few. Given this, I am a passenger am perfectly within my rights to regard muslims with more suspicion than other travellers. As is Mr Williams. To suggest otherwise, that we should willingly ignore the events of the past decade and the ongoing threats to our saftey from radical muslims is absurd. And consequently, this sacking is shameful.

What is the problem here is that our political masters are still trying to feed us a story about islam ("a peaceful religion", "compatable with Western secularism") which is demonstrably false. The cognitive dissonance that results from this explains the increasingly frantic attempts to quell all criticism of islam.

Mr. Ahmed has unwittingly hit on the core issue:

"he is reflecting a more serious and distrusting thesis: that somehow Islam, as a world civilization of 1.5 billion people, is engaged in a war against the United States of America."

Many people, perhaps most, believe this statement is true. There is a deep and abiding distrust of the actions and behaviors that Americans see as the face of Islam. It is hard to overcome the perception that Islam is not engaged in a jihad against western civilization, our American way of life, and the values and principles we hold dear. Mr. Williams showed courage in expressing his raw fears.

The irony is that Williams would probably be heartily offended if someone said they were nervous around African Americans.

That said, I don't think his comments warranted being sacked - he was just being honest about his feelings. And he doesn't strike me as someone who would act out of bigotry toward a Muslim.

NPR hasn't been objective in 50 years...I'm glad Juan will no longer be representing NPR, it sullies his decency. Juan is a liberal, but he is honest and not a bomb thrower...hopefully he'll get full time work at FOX...political correctness coming home to roost..

Following 9/11 Muslims failed to cast out the extremists from their ranks, instead whining about being unfairly profiled, which is why we need to fight them now before the country ends up like Europe.

Sir,

With due respect, this statement made by you - I suspect that perhaps Juan Williams was so overpowered by O'Reilly's presence that it led him to make these remarks almost unconsciously - is completely wrong. Juan Williams is a regular on Bill O'Reilly's show and no way he was cowered into making this statement. Fair or not can be evaluated but I am of the opinion that a analyst also can make his / her own observations without being crucified.

Molly Norris has gone underground because she has exercised her right to free speech and apparently offended Muslims who are threatening to kill her.

Juan Willims' comments hit the nail on the head. We should be wary of Muslims, just ask Molly Norris if you could find her.

Dummypants, you are clearly revealing the type of person you are, a misinformed individual who may well be considered a bigot. To suggest that Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity reflect any sanity at all with regard to their objectivity shows further ignorance. If you are listening to them exclusively, then I hope that it is for the laughable nature of their poisonous views in this day and age.

NPR WAS WITHIN ITS RIGHTS TO FIRE JUAN WILLIAMS

I have worked in the publishing business and the newspaper business for over 30 years. Juan Williams professes to be a journalist. A journalist is to report the news factually and with objectivity, which is a rarity these days. In his capacity as a side kick to O'Reilly, he has every right to give commentary on his personal beliefs and in op-ed pieces. However, when you get back into the journalist chair and write stories and give commentary on NPR you have a CREDITABILITY problem.

Juan Williams cannot give an honest and true reporting of Muslims stories and events and at the same time the WORLD knows that you have a BIAS toward that group -- there goes your CREDITABILITY and OBJECTIVITY.

NPR had every right to fire Mr. Williams or any other paid employee for breaching their journalistic oath of FAIRNESS and OBJECTVITY.

williams for fired for what 95% of americans think. hell, probably even a lot of muslims themselves. NPR is a joke. I used to listen to it but now I'm exclusively Rush Limbuagh and Sean Hannity. They are smarter and funnier than anyone on NPR.