Arun Gandhi
Co-founder of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence

Arun Gandhi

Gandhi is the fifth grandson of India’s legendary leader, Mohandas K. “Mahatma” Gandhi. He worked for 30 years as a journalist for The Times of India.

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Atheists Must Believe

I am not surprised that American atheists believe in God and in heaven. I am reminded of a true story involving my grandfather, Mohandas K. Gandhi, and an Indian atheist, G. Ramachandra Rao (Gora). During India's struggle for independence Gandhi was able to attract all kinds of people to join the movement. Gora was one of them. When he visited Gandhi at his Sewagram Ashram in Central India, Gora met with my grandfather and said : "I don't believe in God so don't talk to me about God and spirituality."

Grandfather's reply was: "It does not matter whether you believe in God or not. Do you believe in Truth or have you given that up too?"

Gora said: "Of course, I believe in Truth."

"Well," Gandhi said. "To me Truth is God so how can you say you don't believe in God."

I think the problem with most of us is that we are unable to define clearly what we mean by God and heaven or hell. We see them as places that we go to after death and we have an image of God who is sitting on his throne in the magnificence of his domain and constantly watching and judging his children. Even God would have a headache, to put it mildly, if he had to deal with more than 5 billion recalcitrant children.

As I said in one of my past submissions to this blog we have to first define what we mean by God and heaven. Are they external beings or internal? I believe, as my grandfather did, that the Kingdom of God is within each one of us. We have to turn our gaze inwards to find God and how we lead our lives determines whether we are creating a Heaven or a Hell for ourselves.

By Arun Gandhi  |  June 30, 2008; 9:41 AM ET Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati  
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Mr. Gandhi, I believe you are failing at this whole "op-ed column" thing. Look at the pathetic number of responses. The only way they are going to come is if you are an atheist with a reasonable opinion, or a believer with an unreasonable opinion. A believer with a reasonable nuanced opinion such as yourself doesn't compel many people to post ridiculous things in response. Please edit your essay to include some absolute assertions of unknowable facts, and resubmit it. Thanks.

Posted by: Jim | July 9, 2008 12:21 AM
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There are no gods, no fairies, no sprites, no angels, no devils, no heaven, no hell, no Humpty Dumpty, no Tinkerbell, no Tooth Fairy, no Santa Claus, no Easter Bunny, no Mickey Mouse, no Never-never-Land,no Mother Goose, no Jolly Green Giant, no Superman, no Batman, no Robin, no Spiderman, no Captain Marvel, no Apollo, no Aphrodite, no Zeus.

What there is, is our imaginations, which produce all these characters and more. Its what we do as a species. We make things up for our own amusement, and also as explanations for things we don't understand.

Outside of the imagination, no supernatural world exists.

Posted by: Dr.No | July 6, 2008 12:33 PM
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There are no gods, no fairies, no sprites, no angels, no devils, no heaven, no hell, no Humpty Dumpty, no Tinkerbell, no Tooth Fairy, no Santa Claus, no Easter Bunny, no Mickey Mouse, no Never-never-Land,no Mother Goose, no Jolly Green Giant, no Superman, no Batman, no Robin, no Spiderman, no Captain Marvel, no Apollo, no Aphrodite, no Zeus.

What there is, is our imaginations, which produce all these characters and more. Its what we do as a species. We make things up...as explanations for that which we do not understand, and also for our own amusement.

Posted by: Dr.No | July 6, 2008 12:27 PM
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James Randerson, science correspondent
The Guardian,
Tuesday May 13 2008

About this article
This article appeared in the Guardian on Tuesday May 13 2008 . It was last updated at 00:38 on May 13 2008.
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." So said Albert Einstein, and his famous aphorism has been the source of endless debate between believers and non-believers wanting to claim the greatest scientist of the 20th century as their own.

A little known letter written by him, however, may help to settle the argument - or at least provoke further controversy about his views.

Due to be auctioned this week in London after being in a private collection for more than 50 years, the document leaves no doubt that the theoretical physicist was no supporter of religious beliefs, which he regarded as "childish superstitions".

Einstein penned the letter on January 3 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind who had sent him a copy of his book Choose Life: The Biblical Call to Revolt. The letter went on public sale a year later and has remained in private hands ever since.

In the letter, he states: "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

Einstein, who was Jewish and who declined an offer to be the state of Israel's second president, also rejected the idea that the Jews are God's favoured people.

"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."

The letter will go on sale at Bloomsbury Auctions in Mayfair on Thursday and is expected to fetch up to £8,000. The handwritten piece, in German, is not listed in the source material of the most authoritative academic text on the subject, Max Jammer's book Einstein and Religion.

One of the country's leading experts on the scientist, John Brooke of Oxford University, admitted he had not heard of it.

Einstein is best known for his theories of relativity and for the famous E=mc2 equation that describes the equivalence of mass and energy, but his thoughts on religion have long attracted conjecture.

His parents were not religious but he attended a Catholic primary school and at the same time received private tuition in Judaism. This prompted what he later called, his "religious paradise of youth", during which he observed religious rules such as not eating pork. This did not last long though and by 12 he was questioning the truth of many biblical stories.

"The consequence was a positively fanatic [orgy of] freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression," he later wrote.

In his later years he referred to a "cosmic religious feeling" that permeated and sustained his scientific work. In 1954, a year before his death, he spoke of wishing to "experience the universe as a single cosmic whole". He was also fond of using religious flourishes, in 1926 declaring that "He [God] does not throw dice" when referring to randomness thrown up by quantum theory.

His position on God has been widely misrepresented by people on both sides of the atheism/religion divide but he always resisted easy stereotyping on the subject.

"Like other great scientists he does not fit the boxes in which popular polemicists like to pigeonhole him," said Brooke. "It is clear for example that he had respect for the religious values enshrined within Judaic and Christian traditions ... but what he understood by religion was something far more subtle than what is usually meant by the word in popular discussion."

Despite his categorical rejection of conventional religion, Brooke said that Einstein became angry when his views were appropriated by evangelists for atheism. He was offended by their lack of humility and once wrote. "The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility."

End of article.

Posted by: Bert truman | July 6, 2008 12:12 PM
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I define god as fishless fish tacos. You admit fishless fish tacos cannot exist, don't you? So obviously there is no god.

Are you happy with such shallow thoughts, Mr. Gahndi?

Posted by: Ash | July 2, 2008 2:49 PM
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Unselfishness is GOD

Posted by: Anonymous | July 2, 2008 11:42 AM
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So, Gandhi expresses a mere opinion and you attempt to tie it into a premise such that to refute the existence of God is to refute objective truth. Your logic is flawed. Based on what evidence does God equate with truth? And how would an all powerful omnipotent being not also be responsible for falsehoods? If one can say God is truth and that makes it so, then one can also say God is false and that would be equally true by your logic.

Posted by: JohnQPublic | July 1, 2008 9:01 PM
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