Pro-life, anti-gay CBS

lepidopteryx:

I had said that I would post more on the subject at a later date. I have done that on Richard Dawkins' column titled, The Great Tim Tebow Fallacy. It also appears under the same debate of CBS' Super Bowl ads. Rather than repeat myself, I direct you there should you desire to read more of my thoughts.

It's not really even about the double standards with the gay dating service... That's a commercial enterprise.

In previous years, they've run Fundie ads while denying the UCC the right to run an ad saying they *don't* reject gay people... On the grounds it was 'non-commercial.' and 'too controversial' ...To not try to make a 'controversy' out of other people's lives and souls.

I dunno about you guys, but speaking of Bud Light, I don't let Super Bowl commercials tell me what *swill* I drink, never mind the disposition of my human life, spirit, and civil rights.

'Focus on the Family' can go sit under a Clydesdale about it. Whatever.

Seems to me that too many Christians don't even like most of the people who are *here* in this life before starting to claim they know when they should be allowed to tell a woman what should happen in her own body.

Motherhood is *sacred* in my religion, not something to be imposed so arbitrarily by another.

Never mind based on a commercial next to the Bud Light.

"Since when it bad for a mother to risk herself for baby."

Since never?

"Does this guy really think the point of this ad is to promote defiance toward your Doctor?"

I don't know what this guy really thinks?

"It is quite clear that the doctors saw the baby as nusance and that is why the abortion was recommended."

You are incorrect; this is not clear at all.

"It is amazing how someone could twist the meaning to what they want."

As you did in your previous sentence.

"What a loss there has been."

Has there?

"Who knows how many potential stars have been aborted?"

No one.

lepidopteryx:

I can't answer your question because I don't know if those women were "simply insufficiently faithful, charitable, holy, and/or sober" I do know that all things work for the good to those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose.(Romans 8:28) I also know that I have survived situations where I could have been killed or seriously injured, but came through without a scratch. When my daughter was very young she experienced a sudden serious illness that I was not aware of because I was not at home at the time. I did not have a telephone so that I could be reached. I awakened at a very early hour with a heavy burden on my heart for my daughter. I got out of bed and prayed for her, not even knowing why or what I was praying for. Later that morning I found out that she was in the hospital and had been in pain all night until the very hour that I had prayed for her. At that point she turned over and promptly fell fast asleep. I called my pastor and we annointed her with oil and asked for God's healing. Within a short time she was running up and down the halls of the hospital and was sent home that very day. While in high school, one of my sons developed cancer of the thyroid of which we were not aware. He just felt punky. It wasn't the sort of thing that we felt the urgency to send him to the doctor, but it just so happened that we did have a doctor's appointment for one of the other children that turned out we didn't need because of a bizarre change in circumstances. Rather than cancelling, we sent the son instead. The doctor's experienced eye noticed a very, very slight swelling in his neck. As soon as the biopsy report came back, he was in the hospital having the cancer removed successfully.

Scripture points out that some Christians may be bitten by serpents or perhaps poisoned and it will not harm them. It also states that God gives angels charge over us to keep us from harm. But it also states that some Christians are weak and sickly and some have even died because they partake in the Lord's Supper unworthily. (1 Corinthians 11:29-31)

I suggest you read the Faith chapter, Hebrews 11 and I'll comment more on the subject later.

Aww come on, cut the homosexuals a break, really.

I have no problem with FOF spending their millions on an anti-choice ad ("pro-life| is a misnomer because they are no where near "pro-life" when it comes to not condemning capital punishment and pre-emptive war)

What really bothers me is CBS granting FOF free speech while denying it to Mancrunch. FOF and Mancrunch are both commercial enterprises (albeit FOF hides behind the cross and their tax exempt status to claim they are not). To allow one and deny the other represents the threatening agenda of the "Christian" right toward theocracy in America.

Nikos, women die in childbirth every day. Does that mean that the ones who die are simply insufficiently faithful, charitable, holy, and/or sober?

Ket, no one said it was "bad" for a mother to risk her life for her baby. But any time it comes down to the possibility of saving another's life at the risk of your own, you should have the option to save your own, even if that other person is inside your body.

As we all know, childbearing can be a strenuous time and, at times, a very dangerous experience for women. Who can count how many women have died giving birth? However, there seems to be a provision giving safe passage to certain women. It is found in 1 Timothy 2:15 "Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety."

Is it possible that Mrs. Tebow knew of this "promise" and elected to trust in God rather than follow the advice of her doctors? I'm just speculating since I never heard her side of the story. Maybe it will come out in the ad during the game.

Since when it bad for a mother to risk herself for baby. Does this guy really think the point of this ad is to promote defiance toward your Doctor? It is quite clear that the doctors saw the baby as nusance and that is why the abortion was recommended. It is amazing how someone could twist the meaning to what they want. What a loss there has been. Who knows how many potential stars have been aborted?

Rabbi Brad, saying that one TV ad will dissuade Americans from acting on medical professional's advice is grossly disingenuous. We already ignore most of the advice we get from medical professionals. That's the reason we prefer others pay for our health care services.

On the other hand, medical professionals aren't so darned smart, either. Everybody I know who died was under a doctor's care, at the time.

Finally, "socially responsible," at CBS comes right after "cut, print, that's a wrap."