Matters of life and death

For all who commented, please think about this. Your mothers allowed you to live, thereby giving you the ability to voice your opinion. Abortion kills very small human beings (they cannot be anything else) resulting in no voice for them.

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The problem is, if I'm in an ambulance, on the way to the hospital, I probably wouldn't be given the option to be taken to a non-catholic hospital. Do we have to wear medical alert bracelets requesting that we be taken to a REAL hospital?

Freedom of religion is nothing more than freedom of mythology and must never, ever, take precedence over basic human rights such as healthcare. If all the pro-lifers really cared about human life, they would ALL be stopping wars, housing the homeless, feeding the hungry, fight for destitute children, caring for prisoners, fighting inequities around the world, etc., etc., etc. It is pretty comical to think that pro-lifers care about human beings when there is so to do for the humans already here. When they have solved all the problems of the living, then we can talk about abortion. The term pro-life is the most hypocritical term in the English language. As for the rcc, having been raised catholic, I know there is a special hell just for catholics!

If religious organizations actually cared and not pretend to care about the people, they would not proselytize while saving lives.

Providing essential health care to people whom cannot otherwise afford services, and then proselytize during the provisions of those essential service is using the person for the purpose of converting them, amoral and unethical behavior hiding behind the concept of we care about you, but only if you join our church and accept our beliefs and leave your church and your beliefs behind, oh and by the way, give us twenty percent of your income. It sounds more like an organized crime family than a religious organization.

Religion is meant to free people not enslave or bind people.

Patrick

Surely you jest in saying 'There need not be a conflict between religious freedom and saving women's lives. Surely there is common ground agreement that the sacredness of human life is best upheld when women and men create life intentionally. More than 3300 religious leaders have already endorsed...'

There is obviously a conflict; some religions believe that aborting the fetus is a direct contravention of the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'. The fact that you and 3300 other religious leaders believe differently does not make so. Morality is not consensus driven, rather its Truth driven. The consensus can and many times has been wrong: many religious leaders believed slavery was moral too.

"...religious institutions that oppose specific services must still ensure that the services are available for the women who need them."

On what authority do you make this demand? So you're saying that elective abortions, which make up (according to Guttmacher) more than 97% of total abortions, must be performed by conscientious objectors merely because someone walks in and demands it? Very few women "need" abortions. I guess that a vegan market "must still ensure that meat is available to women who need it" merely because they demand it. How twisted.

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Irisheddie, to portray black women's abortions as genocide shows your racism (or your willingness to pander any crazy thing to rile up support for your view). Are you saying that black women are guileless, stupid, or incompetent to make a reasoned decision? That those evil abortion providers are tricking them into not having babies? Please, spare everyone your insults.

And suggesting that there's a plenty of health care facilities for everyone in the country to choose from is just ignorant.

There is nothing "consfused" about this piece. It is well reasoned and points out the ethical obligation of medical providers (be they religious institutions or not) to ensure that sexual and reproductive services are available to women -- these providers do not have to provide these services themselves. They just need to do the right thing and refer to those providers who will provide these services. Reproductive health is a part of a woman's whole health and to ignore that is immoral and unethical. It seems to me that physicians who are supposed to take care of women but refuse to ensure they have the services they need should not have gone into medicine.

The issue with the abortion provider in Philadelphia is that what he was doing was not only improper but illegal. When termination of pregnancy is exceedingly difficult to get, it pushes women to seek it where they can even from a provider such as this. It is the improper illegal providers who cause deaths, not physicians who provide safe, proper termination procedures.

The issue with Montgomery County approving a Catholic hospital over the other hospital is that when there is a choice between an institution that provides all services to women and the Catholic one that limits services for women, it should have been a no brainer for Shady Grove. Catholic hospitals are entitled to provide the services they want to. They just shouldn't be allowed to open new hospitals when there are better alternatives.

Save your mock horror, Deb. You and those like you who have made abortion a sacrament of the culture of death now have the results of your "choice". That it kills women somehow bothers you? It also kills black people and women. Over 60% of abortions done are done on black women. The KKK must be secretly applauding you and all your ilk for doing in the open what they could only hope to do in the dark of night and under cover. In my books, that kind of race killing is called genocide, but you will never admit to this in your haste to ensure that every woman who wants to gets a chance to kill her unborn child.

And stop with the nonsense about "insuring a women's right to reproductive choice" at Catholic hospitals. If you don't like a Catholic hospital, by all means, go somewhere else. There is no dearth of health care facilities in this country.

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What's confusing? The RCC is a major cause of illegal abortions with its sociopathic opposition to all abortion for all reason. They don't care if their stance kills women. They just do not care. Their opposition to all abortion has made the right to abortion nearly meaningless in some parts of the country because the supposedly pro-life people have caused all doctors to run away from doing what they should.

This is a very confused piece that does not seem to understand what it wants to address. Are you writing about the tension between religious freedom and the freedom to have a choice to abort? That's enough of a topic by itself, but you skip through it saying nothing, really. Then you try to spin the Kermit Gosnell story as a "warning" to what could happen if abortion was illegal, but his filth and murder happened under a "legal" system that ignored duty for political considerations, which suggests a whole sick mindset. Then you jump again into Kumbayaland, playing around with some weird idea that somehow there is "commonground" on issues of life and death. Here's the truth: No one should be forced to act against their duties to their religions and no one should be forced to endure exploitation because a movement would rather see a filthy clinic kept open than actually attend to its duties. Let everyone attend to their duties in both cases, and others RESPECT those duties and the world would be better off. There. Was that so hard to write?