Thanksgiving for freedom and life

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Adultery comes through Middle English from the Old French adultere, in turn from Latin adulterium from Latin adulter, "adulterer," related to the verb adulterāre, adulterāt- which means "to pollute."

Adultery means to pollute. Or corrupt something that is pure or innocent. The 6th commandment is not in sole regards to the matrimony vow that contacts man & woman to unionize with God's providence to create life. True, that is sacred, or a sacrament. But adultery refers to sex being used as a violation of another's free will, or dignity. That is why sexual immorality is a crime. And a sin is a sin because it is hurtful to other humans; a disrespect to man's rights, his dignity. A sin.

I give thanks for opportunity, religious freedom and freedom of speech. On the other hand, regrettably, depending on their level of development and level of dependency of their mother, an entire class of human beings have no right to life in America.

David6, more precisely, our government was founded on Christian principles by men who were influenced by their faith.

The Christian principles:

"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR (my emphasis) with certain unalienable rights..." (Source: The Declaration of Independence)

"We the People of the United States...Secure the BLESSINGS (my emphasis) of Liberty..." (Source: The Constitution of the United Sates of America)

Founders:

"God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice (a paraphrase from the bible), is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?" (Source: Benjamin Franklin)

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these are the gift of God?" (Source: Thomas Jefferson)

"The highest story of the American Revolution is this: It connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." (Source: John Adams)

In the preceding statement John Adams clearly expresses the relationship of government to Christianity, linking the newly established principles of government to the unchanging principles of Christianity.

Here's what George Washington, our first president, said about our government:

"It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God and to obey His will."

In referring to His will, he was not referring to the teachings of the Koran, Veda, or any other religious text, but to Holy Scripture (the Christian bible) that he was familiar with.

Given this, is there any doubt about where the principles of our government originated?

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our founders came here for freedom,freedom that recognized that no human being or group of human being can ever be (gods among men).our republic ,instead,was to be governed by the rule of law rather than the rule of men.

what is the difference between the rule of men and the rule of law which is written and framed by men????

Mr Pavone is living in two world,

his delusional god kingdom who for so loved the world he nailed his only son to the cross for the sin and sake of mankind

and,
the secular free at last opium of the mass republic world .

Catholic parents:

Read this article about how a Texas priest "groomed" a teenage boy for sexual assault:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/11/23/texas.priest.arrested/index.html?hpt=Sbin

Know the signs of grooming:

http://www.suite101.com/content/how-pedophiles-groom-victims-a49648

DO NOT report your suspicions to the diocese. Report them to a non-Catholic DA instead or to the National Child Abuse Hotline 1-800-4-A-CHILD.

Nothing has changed in the 46 years since I was groomed and raped by a pedophile priest while his Bishop looked the other way and transferred him to another parish to abuse again. Ratzinger still hides his known perverts from civil prosecution and Father Pavone is complicit in pretending to moralize to the rest of us while he knows very well what is still going on in his Church.

Therefore no king or parliament would be able to oppress the rights of others, or delete their right to life. Our forefathers fought a revolution to see to that. It wasn't simply about "taxation without representation." It was about freedom, and the understanding that freedom is rooted in God.

The pagan view of government denied any importance to the individual, exalted the power of the state beyond all limits, and therefore was able to endorse things like infanticide. After all, the law came from the mouth of the king. Individuals didn't matter. If the king decreed it, even infanticide would be all right.

Our Founding Fathers, however, were influenced in their philosophy of government by Scripture and the Judeo-Christian tradition, according to which everyone was a sinner and equally subject to the laws of God. Yes, there would be earthly rulers, but they, too, were subject to God.

This is such a drivel. Mr. Pavone wants claim that his mythical sky-daddy in the mythical sky is our benefactor and the giver of our rights. The audacity of this man to claim that our rights were given by an unproven god, is the snake oil his ilk had been selling for 2000 years. Their ilk if anything had been suppressing the rights for most of the 20 centuries. It is in fact the rights that we arrogate to ourselves has been achieved despite these blaggards.

In fact the pagans of Greece and Rome had greater sense of equality than these Judea-christian neanderthals, not as great as of today but they were heads and shoulders above what replaced them for the next 1500 years.

It took the people all over to break the shackles of the church to give themselves the rights. The founding fathers did not find the rights in the dumb vile scripture but from the writings of enlightenment. They perhaps appropriated a stray verse or two from that decrypt scripture to justify their more secular goals. For this man to appropriate that is beyond repugnant. I wish this arrogant minion of RCC would stop writing here.

Excellent article, Fr. Pavone! It's odd how much it panics some people to hear that there was a religious background & influence on the Thanksgiving holiday as well as the founding of our country - to the point that they deny & revise history.

And sad how determined they are to focus on the minority bad while denying the majority good. Yet if you point out the evil done by atheists historically, they are allowed to disavow the sins of their own - despite the fact that many more have died at the hands of such men than all the so-called religious wars put together.

I am thankful, on this day of thanks, to have been born into Christendom - as they would be, too, if they knew what it was like to live outside of it...

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A THANKSGIVING PSALM

Oh give thanks to the LORD; call upon his name; make known his deeds among the peoples! Sing to him; sing praises to him; tell of all his wondrous works! Glory in his holy name; let the hearts of those who seek the LORD rejoice!

Seek the LORD and his strength; seek his presence continually! Remember the wondrous works that he has done, his miracles and the judgments he uttered. He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth.

Sing to the LORD, all the earth! Tell of his salvation from day to day. Declare his glory among the nations, his marvelous works among all the peoples! For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised, and he is to be held in awe above all gods.

For all the gods of the peoples are idols, but the LORD made the heavens. Splendor and majesty are before him; strength and joy are in his place. Ascribe to the LORD, O clans of the peoples, ascribe to the LORD glory and strength!

Ascribe to the LORD the glory due his name; bring thanksgiving and come before him! Worship the LORD in the splendor of holiness; tremble before him, all the earth; yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved.

Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice, and let them say among the nations, “The LORD reigns!” Let the sea roar, and all that fills it; let the field exult, and everything in it! Then shall the trees of the forest sing for joy before the LORD, for he comes to judge the earth.

Oh give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; for his steadfast love endures forever!—I Chronicles 16

Have a thankful Thanksgiving.

As children of God, we have been taught since before we followed God into the desert in Exodus, to remember - and in remembering to give thanks. The day we do not remember the source of blessings like freedom - and forget to give thanks for them - is the day we have already lost them by neglect and disregard. This is true for all people, and for any government by the people. Great article.

Fr Pavone appears to have a rosy and overly idealistic view of our so-called "Founding Fathers" and freedom. In 1776, the reality was that if you were a white Christian male and preferably a wealthy landowner, then you were accorded all those wonderful Constitutional freedoms the Father waxes rhapsodic about, including the right to vote, freedom of religion, et al. Blacks, women, Native Americans (Indians), the poor and others were not so fortunate. Fr Pavone's naive and sentimental viewpoint is often expressed by many today who seem ignorant of American history.

Father Frank, on this Thanksgiving Day, one of the things I am thankful for among many, is that you are writing a weekly column in the Washington Post. Reading the comments to your column should make us all realize there ia a lot of work to be done. Happy Thanksgiving to all and Peace.

One of the things I'm grateful for is the fact that I do NOT have pay any attention to this religious drivel regarding our "god given" rights.

We have these rights, despite you religious morons, not because of you.

When Jamestown and Plymouth were settled in the seventeenth century the theory of government in Europe was the Christian inspired "divine right of kings;" European kings were crowned by Christian Clergy in Christian ceremonies, in churches.

It was the New World that sought to undo all this damage and try a new and better way.

Thanksgiving is not a theocon holiday to be cherry-picked and exploited by the "religious"

"The pagan view of government denied any importance to the individual, exalted the power of the state beyond all limits, and therefore was able to endorse things like infanticide. "

Father makes much of the Pagan. But the internecine war between Christians played as much a part in the thinking of our fore-fathers as did the fear of and distaste for monarchy. We are a nation of laws, not the particular tenets of any one religion.

Yes, our fore-fathers were predominantly Christian. But do you notice that neither the Declaration of Independence nor the Constitution mention Christianity, the Bible, or Jesus? There is much reference to "the law's of nature" or of "nature's God." There was a respect for the potential to find wisdom in places other than Christian writing or teaching.

I am a Christian but I do think that we need to be careful how far we cross the line that limits freedoms in the world of Caesar to those that are permitted by a Christian God.

"How sad some people equate tyranny with religion!"

How sad that religious leaders have repeatedly engaged in tyranny over the millennia.

"I can only say such people have never known true Christianity."

Is that like true Scotsmen?

On target, Father!
How sad some people equate tyranny with religion! I can only say such people have never known true Christianity. If they really embraced Christianity, they would realize what a gift it is, and yes--they would thank God for something so precious.

A blessed Thanksgiving to all, and thank God for our freedoms!

"It was about freedom, and the understanding that freedom is rooted in God."

No, it is not an understanding that freedom is rooted in God. It is an understanding that freedom is rooted in not being subject to tyranny, which included the tyranny of religion. It is noteworthy that when rulers became "Gods" it was recognized that this could lead to tyranny since there is not accountability when they are deities. Similarly, our gods have no accountability and, therefore, it is only through separating those gods from our political system that we can have any chance of living a life free of tyranny. It is not to say that religion per se is tyrannical however the founders clearly recognized that allowing religious beliefs, which are always particular to certain groups, to hold sway in the public arena, would lead to the limiting of the freedom of belief of those who did not ascribe to those religious views. For this reason I am thankful this year, and always, to live in a country where I can not be forced to live according to the legal or so-called moral dictates proscribed by the imaginary gods of my fellow citizens. I am grateful to live in a secular republic where I enjoy the freedom to believe what I want and to reject those beliefs, although popular, that I find to be irrational, false, and counter-productive in the formation and progress of society and the well-being of humanity. I am not a child of God and am not subject to the laws of any God of any religion and I think anyone who says that I am subject to the laws of their God is someone of whom I must be wary.

Thank you Father Frank for a thoughtful reminder of the blessings we have received. As I enjoy my Thankgiving dinner with my loved ones, I will definately be thankful to our founding fathers and for all those who gave their lives for our freedom.

Of course there were many of the Founding Fathers who had already rejected Christianity. Our government clearly did not come from the Bible or Judeo-Christian ethic.