Time to Move From Faith to Interfaith
Just having listened to "On Faith" co-moderator Jon Meacham on the Diane Rehm show on NPR and WAMU, I agree with him and with Rick Warren that one cannot separate faith and politics. As a preacher who has stood in a pulpit for almost 30 years, one of the major tenets I did my level best to imbue in those listening and even those bored by my preaching that our response to the gospel, as believers, is to live what we believe. The message is not for Sunday morning only; it is for all of life. One of the prayers we offer at the end of the mass has us pray: "...send us out into the world to do the work you have given us to do," Thus our faith calls us to inform our actions.
My brother, however, is a medical doctor and professor and his world view is formed by science. Do I expect him to separate his belief system from the way he lives and makes his decisions? No, nor does he expect me to do so either. As I learned long ago, what one believes forms who one is and ultimately what one does.
Now to the forum itself. As a firm exponent of the separation of church and state, I did not have a problem with Pastor Warren holding the forum in the sanctuary of Saddleback Church. He was clear that this was an event focused on issues from a religious, a Christian, perspective. No one was deluded and both nominees were present. My concern is whether both Senator Obama and Senator McCain will have the same type of events at a synagogue, a mosque, a gudwara and an ethical society. And whether CNN will carry those events live. I am eager to know how both men see themselves governing in a pluralistic country for those whose belief system may differ from their own. I hope people of other religions or no religion get the same clarity.
All voters, however, (be they Christian or not) are free to choose the values they wish to guide their electoral decision. Religious bona fides can be a poor proxy for wisdom and judgment of a candidate. No one doubts that the current occupant of the White House has a deep and abiding faith. And he has been far from perfect while in office.
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Posted by: Dan | August 24, 2008 4:15 PM
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The responses here have come to typify the On Faith site. Dixon's civil and reasonable post has drawn maybe one or two responses in kind, and the rest is a mix of off-topic rambling (see "Douglas Field" on this page), pure non-sense (see "Anonymous"), and great ugly belches of unbridled hate being hurled into the void of the Internet (see Anonymous again).
Shakespeare wrote something about humanity being mostly defined by "sound and fury, signifying nothing."
How right he was.
Some of the forum members may not be the greatest logicians, but at least they have a passable command of modern English grammar and punctuation, unlike most of the people who respond to their posts.
It's time to close this forum. It's like a playground that's been taken over by rock-throwing 3rd-graders.
Posted by: Dan | August 24, 2008 4:10 PM
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WHERE ARE AMERICA'S RELIGIOUS LEADERS ?
*** SADLY THIS REPRESSIVE JUDICIAL INJUSTICE HAS BECOME AN AMERICAN ART FORM !!!
** WHEN GOD'S FACE BECAME VERY RED **
THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW ) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ??????
**** INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS !
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.
****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY ****
The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.
This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.
This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!
Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!
For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.
It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.
This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World!
***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY!
A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE::
1) YAHOO AND 2) GOOGLE
MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM. ** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !
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Posted by: DOUGLAS FIELD | August 24, 2008 12:31 AM
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"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make corruption (Fasad) in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be banished from the land; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement. (Al Ma'idah 5:33)"
Then the grunts show up and open up with hellfire and all your messengers are dead and your village is a pile of ash. The war continues because they want to keep going at it. If we can accelerate the suicides we can save ammo for the rest of them.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 6:33 PM
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Anonymous,
OK, really?
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Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 9:27 AM
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Faith is In God We Trust. Politics is trust me, I will do anything for a vote. I think they are very different concepts. It's the difference between a dollar you earned and a dollar somebody else spent to send you out to campaign. Then you sell pardons, because we should have faith in reformed criminals too.
Posted by: deflag | August 22, 2008 3:54 PM
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Nice to see that the gibberish was removed.
Posted by: Dave L | August 22, 2008 2:08 PM
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" garyd:
"Sure right after one of those groups equals something in excess of .01% of the population...
"It's about votes."
You're seriously lowballing the numbers, there, GaryD, particularly in the case of Jews... if it's 'about votes,' you're trying to disenfranchise millions.
Posted by: Paganplace | August 22, 2008 11:23 AM
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One must remember that it's not the presenter that often takes offense, but the receiver. One must know the audience. Based on faith, a presenter may be considered a person who strives to make corruption for just giving their political opinon. (see example below)
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make corruption (Fasad) in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be banished from the land; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement. (Al Ma'idah 5:33)
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008 8:49 PM
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I thought we had moved past posting gibberish.
Posted by: Dave L | August 21, 2008 8:24 PM
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What we need is not an interfaith alliance but a superfaith religion. We need to recognize that no faith provides all the answers to questions people have to world-wide problems today. The way the word "faith" is used here seems to be a code word for "church" which we understand is distinct from government in a democracy. However, the government, whether it be of a country or of a combination of countries, needs to make explicit the single religion which guides its operations. This cannot be a particular church in the case of a democratically run group. It has to be a super-religion that integrates the views of all the participants. Unless this integrated view is made explicit, there will be continuing conflicts over which church is in charge. In the case of the US, the Constitution is the best current description of our national religion, yet, as we see, participants still argue about which church is in charge. Understanding that the Constitution specifies an over-riding religion that everyone recognizes would do a lot to limit this irrelevant argument.
Posted by: L.Kurt Engelhart | August 21, 2008 4:07 PM
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"Spirituality doesn’t have any dogma, fiction, or perversion. Spirituality is simply based on everything being connected and part of one body, with One Being behind it all."
Well certainly there is some dogma in this this view, as there is in any worldview. And from an atheist's perspective, even this would be a fiction.
"This is what Jesus A Christ was trying to communicate. It is that simple."
There is always the risk of anachronism when projecting our late-20th/early-21st century categories back onto people from the distant past. It's not at all clear that Jesus, qua 1st century Jew, was proclaiming something like spirituality as you've defined it. It may ring true with some of what he said, but his whole program certainly can not be reduced merely to that.
Cheers,
Dave
Posted by: Dave L | August 21, 2008 9:30 AM
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There is a big difference between spirituality and religion. Spirituality doesn’t have any dogma, fiction, or perversion. Spirituality is simply based on everything being connected and part of one body, with One Being behind it all. This is what Jesus A Christ was trying to communicate. It is that simple.
Politics being how various needs and wants are expressed and met or obtained how combined efforts are implemented and what joint ventures are formed and funded. Politics should include the view that we are all one; part of the same body. Religion should not be involved in Politics because it has become perverse in the eyes of the Lord it has become the house of hypocrisy not the House of God.
Posted by: Richard Thomas | August 21, 2008 1:22 AM
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Sure right after one of those groups equals something in excess of .01% of the population...
It's about votes.
Posted by: garyd | August 19, 2008 8:56 PM
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In reference to my previous post, if you're eager for reasoned debate on religion and public life that has not yet gone completely to the dogs, check out The Immanent Frame, a forum set up by the Social Science Research Council.
http://www.ssrc.org/blogs/immanent_frame/