Anglican Tensions Runneth Over
The Archbishop of Canterbury’s comments regarding the need in Great Britain to consider whether English law should accommodate some aspects of Islamic law reflects a context significantly different from America. The firestorm and subsequent reactions to the Archbishop of Canterbury’s comments on Shariah law should be seen within the existing tensions and fissures within the Anglican Church exemplified by, but not restricted to, the breakaway of some ultra conservative Anglican clergy and churches over the ordination of a gay bishop.
This issue or another becomes a pretext for those who are against the Archbishop’s leadership to call for his resignation. However, the controversy also reflects a British (and more broadly European) context where the impact of attacks in London, Madrid and Glasgow and the continued threat of “homegrown” extremism and anti-immigrant right wing political parties have led to a sharp increase in Islamophobia. Finally, for many any mention of Shariah is often equated facilely with Taliban-like laws. In fact, as the Gallup World Poll shows, majorities of mainstream Muslims (women as well as men) want some form of Shariah, religious values, as a source of law. This sentiment is not all that different from a majority of Americans who want to see the Bible as a source of legislation. (See Who Speaks for Islam? What a Billion Muslims Really Think)
In fact, Archbishop Rowan Williams was not calling for implementation of Shariah law but simply signaling the need for addressing/discussing a question/issue that is inevitable. Muslims should have the same rights and choice that Orthodox Jews and Catholics already enjoy. For example, the London Beth Din Jewish Courts adjudicate civil disputes. An award given by the Beth Din has the full force of an Arbitration Award and may be enforced (with prior permission of the Beth Din) by the civil courts. Parties who submit to such courts agree, as a matter of contract, to accept their decisions. The public courts enforce awards just as they would enforce other agreements provided they do not contradict or override British law. Any attempt to do so would be overruled on appeal to the public courts.
The situation in the U.S. is quite different. We draw the line more sharply between church and state. In contrast, in Great Britain, though secular, church and state are not separate: the monarch is the head of the church, government funding is provided for some religious institutions and their activities … Certainly Muslims like members of other faiths can draw on their religious law to govern internal matters and as a guide in family and social behavior as long as they do not violate civil law. As with some other faith communities, religious arbitration councils can also mediate in family law disputes. However, this is a far cry from incorporating religious law (any religions laws) within our American legal system. In addition to major constitutional problems, even if it were possible there would be formidable issues, given the different schools of Islamic law and contemporary jurists’ opinions, the lack of a central religious authority in Islam and the fact that Muslims themselves differ sharply on many matters of Islamic law.
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John Esposito
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February 12, 2008; 2:30 PM ET
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Posted by: The Moderate | February 16, 2008 3:22 PM
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John:
"Muslims should have the same rights and choice that Orthodox Jews and Catholics already enjoy."
Which rights would those be?
Enforcing "No Go" zones in England where no one but Moslems are safe?
Executing a young college student for questioning hidebound traditions of faith?
Raping women for being on the street without a familial guardian?
Indoctrinating children and teens as suicide bombers?
Posted by: The Moderate | February 16, 2008 3:21 PM
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Anglican tensions runneth over? Thats hardly the point, but another of your employment of the Islamic doctrine of dissumulation (taqiyya). Does Sharia law allow any secular legal or political order above it, or does it seek supremacy? You know the answer to that very well.
Williams was responding to the growing issue of unintegrated and antagonistic communities and parallel structures developing in Britain, Muslim communities and Islamic structures seeking conformity (submission) to Sharia law. Other Brits, Muslims who do not see Sharia as divine and necessary, Christians, and Anglicans disagreed with him. Here are two Anglican respondents, one a former-Muslim now Anglican canon: http://www.barnabasfund.org/news/archives/article.php?ID_news_items=386; and another the Anglican bishop in northern Nigeria: http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7730
Posted by: Michael | February 15, 2008 11:16 AM
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To All Muslims,
Your problems go beyond the Bin Ladens, the Shiite Iranian crazies and the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.
The problems are in the basic foundations of Islam itself as one can see from the following:
1. Belief in "pretty/ugly wingie thingies"
2. Belief that an hallucinating, illiterate Arab did actually talk to the "pretty Gabriel" in the hot "Gabe" cave and therein received the warmongering and anti-female words and resultant laws now listed in the koran.
3. That Sunnis are superior to Shiites in all aspects of life. And Shiites think the same way about Sunnis.
4. That Islam is perfect and the koran inherently condones no sin even though the 24/7, 800 year-old blood feud between Sunnis and Shiites gives significant credence that greed, hate, suicides, assassinations, maiming, and murder are condoned by the koran. Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of rape, adultery, lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of hatred, anger and greed.
These are tough issues. Address them, correct them then ask again to be allowed into the civil world!!!!!
And accusing someone of spreading hate and lies does not work when these "someones" are simply listing the facts. If you have counter points about your beliefs then list them. Hiding behind imams and clerics blinded by 1400 years of brainwashing serves no purpose other than to secure a dishonet living for said imams and clerics.
Posted by: Concerned The Christian Now Liberated | February 15, 2008 10:59 AM
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John:
"Muslims should have the same rights and choice that Orthodox Jews and Catholics already enjoy."
Which rights would those be?
Enforcing "No Go" zones in England where no one but Moslems are safe?
Executing a young college student for questioning hidebound traditions of faith?
Raping women for being on the street without a familial guardian?
Indoctrinating children and teens as suicide bombers?