Religion is Risky Business

When you consider that the most intolerant, fanatical people in America are the ones who proclaim their faith most loudly, it is only natural that they would be willing to resort to violence. After all, they are on God's side and all others are not, and anyone who disagrees with them is by their definition anti-God and an agent of Satan. No remorse need be associated with gunning such people down.

Love thy neighbor, only if he's a member of your congregation and sees things as you do.

O' O.U.R. Dear fellow AMERICAN's, & Friendly's: DO NOT believe in White-Hous's BIG LiE!

According to todays NEWS; DO-NOT, NO/NOT BELiEVE [Todays] THE U.S. Controlled News-Networks nor such FEDeraly paid SiNdicates via PENTAGON & CO. i [WE] know, via facts & 'TRUTH' (opposite MYTH) THAT: Osam Bin Laden is Really/Acually Dead; since June 2007 by a Botched Kidney-Transplant Failure.

Do not Listen to the News-Networks nor believe their "FAKE-TAPES" [Voice makeovers] P-R-o-p-a-g-a-n-d-a's campaign. Osam Bin Laden is Really Dead; since June 2007! Shame on BUSH! Shame on OBAMA, POLOSi, BADEN et al!

Osam Bin Laden is Really Dead; Osam Bin Laden is Really Dead; since June 2007!

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DEAR "C.ONcered C.hristian N.ow L.iberated" & CO;

According to Ye Jealous Diciples @ LUKE12:51.. that

Your (not OUR) "NT" , as if ye (not OUR) god be in 'Flesh' & 'Blood' is in fact "ANTi-HUMANITY" & thuseth, but FREUDiANTLY slipeth'd & begged yo singing, "Suppose? I came not to make/bring YE (not Us) PEACE [Blessing]; but NO-NO-NO rather & in TRUTH (opposite MYTH) I, ye Rabbi & PELEGian-Yashua/Jesus-gods player, INSTEAD brings ye WAR [Blessing]s, D-V-i-S-i-o-n.." la la la. AND

@ LUKE:14:26 .... "HATE-HATE-HATE la la Ye-selves, Ye Kids, Ye Mother & Father, Syblings & ALL LIFE FORMS, if Ye want to Follow ME/US & get to the Kingdom..." [Similar sang]! Sooooo

C.C.N.L. & CO., a self-ordained/serving Expert on YE (not OUR) "N.ew T.estament" a Jealous Copy-Cat JUDEO-abe-JU Bible (Bas{orah) rehashed from YE (not OUR) "O.ld T.estament" and suddenly became the JUDEO-abe-CHRiSTO [un{ holy (Masorah) Book; similar to the Jealousy's of the WHABI JUDEO-abe-ISLAMIcO's!?

C.C.N.L & CO; YE art DRUNK & gots Blinded by Swallowing To much "PUKARIST" aka Symbolic Cannabilism & Vampirism [Communion/Eucharisk] via eating rabbi JESUS's FLESH & BLOOD in effigy!

Luckilly for YE & Co; there are "EKLAHT"ion run REHAB CENTERS that can reverse the CURSE/SiNs of Ye Parents (not Ours) To Reverse the "WAR BLESSINGS & translate & Expose, to OUR S.S. Earthlings the "RiDDLES OF YE DEVIL/JINN/SATAN/KALi.."!

If you "religious" folks think you need to pack glocks to go to your church or synagogue, you must have good reason to believe something you did or believe caused it to be a dangerous place. Like a dark street at night in NYC, why would anyone want to go there?

Posted by: coloradodog | September 13, 2009 12:59 PM
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First, as you should know by now, I am far from being a "religious folk." I am an atheist. Second, you are blaming the victims, not an infrequent move by cultural and/or religious Christians, very, very sad to say.

Christian/Catholic churches have not been threatened for FOUR DECADES, or even one, by racist lunatic Islamist terrorists. I state this because you include churches. Only, according to the NYPD, newspapers, etc., have synagogues.

Can you imagine what kinds of action would have been taken FOUR DECADES ago if racist lunatic Islamists had threatened Christian/Catholic houses of worship? Err, yeah. It would not have gone on for a year, let alone FOUR DECADES.

America has freedom of the press. Although you live in Mexico, you have access the the internet. Suggest you use it next time before you blog on an issue of which you know nothing.

American Jews, cultural and observant are Americans just like your culturally Christian self. We have the same rights, as taxpayers, as everyone else, including the right to live in peace.

Ponder that. Ponder that as you read about a few people shot because they were Jews wearing traditional garb driving over a bridge, shot by racist, lunatic Islamists.

What do you suggest? Are Jews entitled to the same protection as everyone else? Or should we start protecting ourselves? Should we respond in kind, do you think?

If we respond in kind, will you write to Muslims that they must have done something wrong to deserve the threats they receive?

If you "religious" folks think you need to pack glocks to go to your church or synagogue, you must have good reason to believe something you did or believe caused it to be a dangerous place. Like a dark street at night in NYC, why would anyone want to go there?

Pr. Chris,

While it is true that threats to Jews originated with Christianity, have been sponsored by some segments of it, that it was Christians who exported the current form of antisemitism to the Middle East, Africa, etc., the terrorist threat to New York Jews that is under discussion comes specifically from racist, Islamist lunatics. This is a simple matter of fact, which no one disputes.

It is to that threat that the rabbis have spoken. As I mention on this blog, the rhetoric in which these rabbis engaged surfaced a few years ago, as a way of calling attention to the problem. It is mere rhetoric, nothing more, as the OnFaith producers, who read newspapers, know quite well.

They also know that no sane Jew would ever carry a weapon into a synagogue. NO one may even carry money into a synagogue. The threat to New York City Jews by lunatic, racist Islamist terrorists has been ongoing for FOUR DECADES.

As I mention on this blog, we do not want to be besieged by police during holidays. Some Jewish communities are patrolled 24/7 and pay for private security patrols as well. We do not want special police patrols. We cannot afford private security and we do not want it.

We are taxpaying American citizens, and four decades of harrassment is quite enough.

Can you imagine what would have happened if FOUR DECADES ago, Christian/Catholic churches were threatened by raicst, Islamist lunatic terrorists?

Would they still be under guard by police? Would they have metal detectors in their houses of worship forty years later?

I suggest you read John Mark Reynold's thread, Read his comments. Read mine. Bone up on the issue. This threat to one segement of the American population is very real by racist, Islamist lunatics is not disputed.

Onfaith chose to bury it, to obfuscate it rather than address the issue honestly, face it head on. What threatens one group of Americans threatens all. Until we learn that, we are defenceless against the racism, hatred, etc., that plague us.

farnaz:

I have not lived your history, so I cannot fully stand in your shoes. BUT, having said that, and recognizing that Jews have been throughout history the subject of violence, including from us Christians, the answer to the threat is not more violence.

Yes, Jews have been under threat from Muslims, in many parts of the world. Mubt, many if not most acts of violence in this country against Jews are NOT from Muslims. And many others than Jews have been attacked. Even the peaceful Amish, who keep to themselves and are no threat to any others have been attacked. Many Catholics have been attacked by non-Catholics, and we all know the history of black victimization by the KKK--which parodies "Christian" language to spread their white-supremacist actions and hatred. My own nice, multi-racial suburban bedroom community in Southern California has had a spate of vandalism against the local Jewish elementary school. It is caused by those, I am ashamed to admit, claim to be "Christian". Instead, they are no Christians by ANY definition I know.

The answer is for the rest of us, including Muslims, Christians and others, to say "enough" and to make it happen. No one can fully eliminate all acts of violence; some people will simply hate because they are so pitiful it is the only way they find any self-esteem--by looking down on and victimizing others. But bringing guns to worship is not the answer; it just parodies our own faith when we do. Right now, we are going through a spate of Muslim on Jew violence; but at the same time, we are also seeing anti-Muslim violence spreading in society. It is not accurate to say that one group is responsible for all violence against others.

The test for Jews, and indeed for all groups under attack is to keep their own faith, and their own religious traditions, and not return hatred for hatred. My wish for all Jews as we approach the High Holy Days is for a fruitful Rosh Hashannah and Yom Kippur for all of you.

Pr chris

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It is not due to Muslim terrorist activities during the Arab-Israeli War of 1948, or of their activities later and earlier, that the US government has permitted for FOUR DECADES, racist Islamist lunatics to threaten both synagogues and Jewish communities. The rabbis are only the most recent group to try to call attention to the failure of the government to protect one segment of the population. OnFaith's linking these few desperate men, trying to call attention to a decades-old problem, to the Kentucky pastor, is disingenuous.

Why not grant moral equivalency to the Janjaweed and the National Guard? After all, both are armed.

Further, Madam, as you should very, very well know, there is no rabbi on planet Earth who would carry a gun into a synagogue. One is not even permitted to carry money into a temple. That the rabbis' "threat" was rhetoric was quite obvious.

We, like you, do not wish to be threatened. We do not want metal detectors in synagogues. We do not want to be forced to accept police protection, attending services under siege, and it is the NYPD, who insist upon it. We have neither the money nor the desire to protect houses of worship and our communities with security patrols.

That is the issue. Why should American Jews be treated any differently from anyone else? Like everyone else, we have enough trouble getting by from day to day.
Can you imagine what the response would have been four decades ago if racist Islamist lunatics had threatened Protestant and Christian churches?

When I was a child, the Islamist Iranian Revolutionary Guard dragged from our home, my family's friend, Ismael, and murdered him in front of me. His blood spattered on my clothes.

THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE, Madam. The issue is that the govenment has failed us, and in failing American Jews, it has failed all Americans.