WikiLeaks exposes Muslim nations' hypocrisy

Oh, and KHan? Just why is it that Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE need the US or Israel to bomb or invade Iran?

I mean can't eight gigantic Muslim nations take care of one lil' ole Iran? Doesn't it look a bit wussy for them to try to get us to pressure tiny Israel to do it?

Doesn't it make them look wussy?

Khan, I just received a hilarious email from a Pakistani colleague to whom I forwarded your column. He's toying between posting here or circulating the column among friends and colleagues here and abroad, both, and the lord knows what else.

Agrees with me that the educational system ici must be in trouble. Suggests you not return to the homeland.

Would never be hired--anywhere.

Saudi Arabia's desire, urging for the removal of Ahmedinejad is almost a matter of public record. I've been blogging on it for three years, for as long as I've been blogging on WaPo, in fact. The Saudis have always hated Iran, and not only because Iranians are not ARabs.

They have done all they could to foment conflict, including damning Iran over the islands, if one can believe it. The main reasons are the threat of Iranian hegemony in the region, fear of Ahmendinejad, and, of course, Iranian influence in Syria and Lebanon. Good heavens. I almost forgot. Outside the UK, the heaviest investors in BRitish Petroleum are Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Bahrain. Of course, in self-defense, I should point out that I have said many times that these three want not just an end to Ahmedinejad, but, along with the Brits, they want Iran Oil (again), whatever it takes.

Dr. Kahn, try googling this man: Mossadegh.

What you evidently (also) do not know is that Wiki Leaks exposed Syria's desire for the removal of Ahmedinejad, which will cost the buffoon prostitute, Asaad dearly. Obviously, Ahmedinejad would have removed him, but later rather than sooner. That may have changed.

Egypt, Qatar (major sponsor of terrorism), UAE, and Bahrain also want Ahmedinejad out per Wiki Leaks. And also want ISRAEL to do it, urge the US to pressure Israel to do it. Hilarious, really.

But, you, Dr. Kahn, are no genius, are you.
And, now witness Netanyahu, "surprised" that the Arabs want to murder Ahmedinejad.
My only question for him is if he knew that they all did, or knew only that the Saudis, UAE, Bahrain did. As did I. And as did every other astute person, but not you. So, no, he must have known much more.

Word to ME "diplomats" and related thugs: Forty Iranian statesmen have signed a petition demanding the resignation of Ahmedinejad, in the interest of not starving Iranians.

You want him out? Do your own dirty work.
Go Saudis, but lose some weight first, or is it your plan to make the IRG die laughing?

Leave Israel alone, and leave Iran alone.

"US diplomats do have a talent for writing, thought a wee catty and gossipy in their "analyses" on and reporting of foreign leaders and officials. They can always write fiction when they retire and give John Grisham a run for his money."

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Agreed! One shouldn't read too much into the "Intelligence" reports of US and British Intelligence Agencies and Diplomats. American Diplomats specially, are considered brash and amateurish in most diplomatic circles. To think of someone of the temperament of John Bolton being their top diplomat a couple of years ago. With regards to their Intelligence Agencies CIA, MI6 et all an eye opening and downright embarrassing incident occurred a few days back when a mildly educated, country folk from Quetta, Pakistan sold a dummy to the best intelligence minds of CIA and MI6 by presenting himself as a Mullah Naseer, a well known Deputy of Mullah Umar. He not only held negotiations with the Intelligence top brass of both these agencies but also held meetings with Hamid Karzai in his State Palace, eventually running away with hundreds of thousands of dollars as advance and a promise to convince Mullah Umar of giving up arms. So that tells you a lot about the "intelligence" of these world famous intel agencies and the kind of background check they do before presenting their information.

Poor diplomats, now everyone may want to to just talk of nothing of substance to them nor get within 10 feet of them for fear of being reported and "quoted" in "diplomatic cables".

And the UN folks, including the Secretary General, are surely thinking of passing notes with folks they meet in their offices instead of having conversations what with allegations of buggings.

US diplomats do have a talent for writing, thought a wee catty and gossipy in their "analyses" on and reporting of foreign leaders and officials. They can always write fiction when they retire and give John Grisham a run for his money.

Mr. Khan,

It’s already known long before, how the Mid East leaders and officials feel about Iran. The Wikileaks content dump of the “diplomatic cables” is no surprise to the so-called “Arab Street” on what is said publicly and privately. If they said they “lying” to Iranians, and Iranians said to be “lying” to them, one wonder what sort of reports are sent in “diplomatic cables” by Mid East and Iranian diplomats on their meetings.

Tips for diplomats:

- Just as foreigners know you tell them what they want to hear, they know you know they tell you want you want to hear.

- Do not write gossipy, catty stuff about folks you meet. You are not a shrink and especially after a cocktail party when you may be slightly tipsy.

- Do not assume a foreigner is “short on substance”. He may just not be telling you stuff or he would not attain the position as ministers or presidents.

- Do not "lie for your country" in the ICT age. Anyone can double check with just a click.

Tips for non-diplomats:

- Talk about the weather when talking to diplomats. But do not complain about the weather, for climate change, global warming may well be a sensitive matter.

- If diplomats ask you for your phone, fax and e-mail, they are not asking you for a date, but a dinner invitation to talk about the weather, and sometimes, about the your e-mail password, your travel plans and office ICT security.

- If diplomats wants to know your credit card number, do not report to the police that they are into credit card fraud. They just want to know what you bought to drink at Starbucks in Muncie, Indiana so they can have that same drink served to you when you go to dinner at their place.

- If diplomats wants to know your daily schedule, they really want to know how important and hardworking you are.

- If diplomats wants to know your travel plans, they are not planning to be your travel agent. They just want to know if you are meeting the Pope, Castro or your mistress.

- If diplomats tell to your face that you are a “decisive” or “assertive” person, chances are, they will report in their “diplomatic cables” that you are an “authoritarian alpha male”.

- Do not talk about anything important to diplomats. Nor ask them about their families, where they live for they may think you are getting information about them for nefarious reasons and that makes them paranoid. But they have right to ask you on those for “security reasons”.

abrahamhab1

I have long known that Muslim governments are hypocritical. For example they use the Palestine-Israel conflict as a rallying cry for the hate of the West in general and the USA in particular, but what have they done to alleviate the hardships of the Palestinians?
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Pardon? They have created those hardships. Hello? IN SA, the Palestinians are treated as badly as Dalit. The Palestinians are viewed as "unclean." In Egypt, Palestinian Egyptians cannot attend public schools. In Jordan, they are second class citizens although they are the majority.

And the Palestinians living in those countries did not commit terrorism, did not shoot little girls at point blank range, lure, murder, and smear the remains of a child on a cave, commit mass murder year in and year out.

Like the Dalit, except that they are better educated, the Palestinians in the countries I mention, merely work, live everyone else. But for the Saudi's they are "unclean." Can't go to school in Egypt, etc.

Not like Khan, who eats well.

Dr. Khan,

Your bigotry, ignorance, and hypocrisy are mind-boggling--far too much so for you to be teaching anywhere in the US, let alone at an ivy league college which receives taxpayer subsidies. I realize I'm not alone in this opinion, but the simple fact is that it is surely time for us all to take action.

Saudi Arabia's desire, urging for the removal of Ahmedinejad is almost a matter of public record. I've been blogging on it for three years, for as long as I've been blogging on WaPo, in fact. The Saudis have always hated Iran, and not only because Iranians are not ARabs.

They have done all they could to foment conflict, including damning Iran over the islands, if one can believe it. The main reasons are the threat of Iranian hegemony in the region, fear of Ahmendinejad, and, of course, Iranian influence in Syria and Lebanon.

Saudi ARabia not only funds terrorism here and abroad, and I'm referring to the "government" of SA, but launders money through Saudi Bank in Manhattan, per the New YOrk Times and the rest of the world.

What you evidently (also) do not know is that Wiki Leaks exposed Syria's desire for the removal of Ahmedinejad, which will cost the buffoon prostitute, Asaad dearly.

Egypt, Qatar (major sponsor of terrorism), UAE, and Bahrain also want Ahmedinejad out per Wiki Leaks.

Now, you write:

"It seems that on key issues Arab foreign policy is the same as Israel. Except Israel is open, and Arab states are not. In future if we wish to understood Arab foreign policy, then all we have to do is take Israeli foreign policy and add hypocrisy (nifaaq) to it; voila."

I have no idea what this convoluted paragraph means. However, I will say this: In their wildest dreams, there is no ARab nation that can compare to Israel re foreign policy or anything else. The achievements of Israel, in every way, stand as Goliath to the ARab nations' baby ant.

However, your co-Muslims now have a problem. Per Wiki Leaks, they have been trying to "subtly" pressure Israel to take Nejad out.

You are a deluded bigot, who has benefited much too much from this country.

I write as an Iranian Jew, who witnessed your co-religionists committing murder. I read you and I fear for the future of our students. I say this with all due respect.

I have long known that Muslim governments are hypocritical. For example they use the Palestine-Israel conflict as a rallying cry for the hate of the West in general and the USA in particular, but what have they done to alleviate the hardships of the Palestinians? Forget about the non-Arab Muslims for they no longer even pay lip service to the plight of the Palestinians. Each and every one of the Arab countries has used the Palestinian disaster to secure financial aide that mostly go straight into the pockets of their rulers. Even the very rich oil states amongst them squander their money left and right and leave it to the West to provide relief for the refugees. The richest of the oil producing countries is using its wealth to support the Jihadists around the world and building them mosques around the world and buying billions worth of sophisticated weapons. Why don’t they be the ones to fight Iran?

docwhocuts: You are living proof that being intelligent is not a requisite for being a doctor, if in fact you are a doctor (& not a wannabe). In these foreign policy areas, O is merely carrying on many policies began under the Bushes. Got criticism? Look at your heroes, the Bushes, not Obama.

If in fact you are a doctor, please use your real name & location so that I can avoid being subject to your "care." I'm sure many of your patients would also like to know that their doctor is a teabagger.

Another point, US mainstream media loves to invite Uncle Tom(s) and other Orientalists like Mr. Khan, Amina Wadud, Irshad Manji, etc. to shed a light on the "Rage of Arabs". Mr. Khan & co. are opportunity seekers who have made a career out of parroting and preaching Washington's propaganda disguised as "self reflection". Who is Mr. Khan? Does his opinion reflect those of the majority of Muslims? NO. So why does the media keep inviting these people to write while pretending to be balanced? What about giving a chance to moderate Muslims from CAIR or professors who actually represent American Muslim voice? Let's not practice dictatorship in panelist selection and give a chance to writers backed by the majority.

This article is propaganda, devoid of any reality. Al-Qaeda and radicals already hate the Saudis, Mubarak, and other regimes. So, what does the writer mean by "will the Muslims now hate...." As for average concerned Muslims, they are critics of American foreign policies as well as critics of its collaborators. I'm sorry if this Leak was a revelation to Mr. Khan, but to the rest of us who actually read foreign and domestic press, there is nothing new here.

Another point, the very reason that many Muslims in foreign nations despise the US is because of Washington's support for their dictators and repressing any opposition (e.g. recently, a party was thrown off ballot in Egypt because it opposed American dominance in the region). Please get your facts straight. Instead of suggesting to alleviate the problem, Mr. Khan suggests that hate should be evenly dispersed. You are embarrassing yourself.

Khan writes nonsense here: "Anyway now thanks to WikiLeaks, at least Muslims who hate America for its foreign policy must realize that their own countries are collaborators. Perhaps their hatred will now be more evenly spread rather than just focusing on the U.S. If they don't, then they will be like their own governments -- hypocritical. "
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Governmental hypocrisy only has political consequences for the governments when the people support democratically elected governments, a nation of laws not men, nor tribes, nor theocracies, and the people can vote to change the government. No such political freedom exists in Saudi Arabia or the Gulf Sheikdoms. In a week, all the Wikileaks in the headlines today will be old news, and like the other scandals that have surfaced in the past about the sheikdoms, nothing new. Muslims there have never known what it means to challenge their government at the ballot box. And they know better than to take up arms against their rulers. And Khan knows this. Talk about hypocrisy!

How entertaining and telling that American theocons demonize their Muslim enemies while refusing any alternative energy rehab from their addiction to sucking the teats of Muslim countries for Mid Eastern oil.

Obama is smart not to enter the trap of beginning another bankrupting war. Those who advocate doing so are no friends of ours. They know another war will totally destroy our economy.

Bush looks better every day.

obama worse by the minute.

release the leaks.
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Huh? You sir are pretty much a minority of one.

Could it be that the Saudis want to put the final nail in our economy's coffin by getting us to start yet another debilitating war? Note that our economy has never been the same since we began these humongously expensive wars on borrowed money.

Bush looks better every day.

obama worse by the minute.

release the leaks.

The most important thing that Muslim countries can do is to become democratic. (That does not mean that WE, in the US, will like the result, by the way). But it will go a very long way to improve the condition of their peoples.

If Muslim countries truly want Iran invaded, they can do it themselves: Egypt, for example, can field a huge army, as can Pakistan; and Saudi Arabia is much better armed than Iran is (I am not including the latest agreement which will not be competed for 20 years, either)! So, they can go ahead and start and finish a war all by themselves.