One President Can't Change the World

Farnaz2 writes
'In a sense, every Jew living in Israel, regardless of his/her politics is a Zionist.'

That'd be true if there weren't Jews in Palestine before the Zionists started showing up.

'I will say you are not making sense.'

Pot, kettle, black.

'And they are just one case. Jews are assaulted by Muslims throughout Europe'

Evidence? Seems like Jews have always done worse under Christian rule than Muslim rule. Not much of a reader are you?

Dear Panelist says,*Two of the major factors feeding Muslim militarism today are the political and economic inequality(is there man-woman equality in islam) of the world*(muslims always try to justify islamic terror by sophistry and always accuse someone else except muslims theirselves and their cult)

Lets have a look;

1-*Vast number of people(muslims) live under horrible oppressive regimes*(They live as what they deserve,yes,yes)
A-Why Swedish,German,English,Frenchmen etc are not living under horrible regimes ?
B-Why dont they(oppressed muslims) try to overthrow those regimes ?
C-Islamic Republic Iran,Saudi Arabia etc. are being governed according to islam and shariah/islamic laws,in that case,does it mean *shariah is a horrible oppressive regime?*
D-Do muslims know what Democracy is ? If not,whose guilt is this,muslims or their cult ?
E-Can anyone say *islam is not compatible with Democracy and Contemporary Values ?*
F-If muslims dont know what Democracy is and islam is not compatible with Civilization,who will found/establish Democracy and how in islamic countries ?

2-*in terrible living condition with little or no hope of improvement*
A-Non-muslim africans are worse than muslims.Why Africans do world-wide terror ?
B-If muslims live in Poverty,whose guilt is this ? Switzerland is a mountainous country like Afghanistan.What is the difference between Switzerland and Afghanistan/Pakistan/Egypt ?
C-Australia was a cannibal land at the edge of the world.Anglo-saxon Protestants touched thier hands and Australia became rich and improved country,but Indonesia remained as Indonesia(fourth class country,I dont want to offend Jihadist,so,I dont write much more),what is the difference between Australia and Indonesia ?
D-Can a man who worship five times in a day(although the book says three times) produce any economic values ?
E-Can we say *submission brings Poverty*,if islam brings Poverty/Backwardness/Idleness,whose guilt is this ?
F-The white robed bedouins have huge oil money,but they couldnt found any contemporary order in their own countries,whose mistake is this ?

Briefly,can we say *islam/submission is not compatible with Democracy,Human Rights,Rationality,Civilization,Contemporary Values and Twentyfirst Century*.

Farnaz, Farnaz, Farnaz,

Need we reiterate the atrocities listed in the OT/Jewish Scriptures??

The irony is that Islamic terrorists take their guidance from the Worst Book Ever Written aka the koran which was written by scribes who plagiarized from a number of sources to include
the Jewish scriptures/OT/bible.

jamil, jamil, jamil,

How very Islamic of you to threaten blog commentators!!!!

Pamela Taylor:

"hardcore Jewish Zionists in Israel"

As you know, essayists are expected to use terms generally familiar or to define terms that are not. However, you are positing an identity that doesn't exist.

There is no such thing as "Zionism"; there are only "Zionisms" (plural). The number of books on Zionisms could easily fill up the WaPo building; in fact, I doubt it could accommodate them, so numerous are the various branches. In a sense, every Jew living in Israel, regardless of his/her politics is a Zionist. In that sense, what you have written is the equivalent of "hardcore atheist American." In other words, to be charitable, I will say you are not making sense.

Further, to be credible and accurate, you would have to distinguish among the extremists you list, that is, after you in some way clarify or rethink what you mean by "hardcore Jewish Zionists in Israel" [sic]. Christian fundamentalists have blown up abortion clinics and committed other acts of violence in the US, but that has not occurred for some time.

To the best of my knowledge they have not targeted minority groups worldwide or slaughtered people with whose governments they disagree.

Jews have neither blown up abortion clinics or set about killing members of other religious groups all over the world. Neither have Hindus.

Now, one thinks of Gavriel, of Rivka, of the six innocent people at Naiman House, especially selected for torture. One thinks of Moshe, Gavriel and Rivka's two-year-old son brought out covered in his mother's blood after having witnessed his parents' slaughter.

And they are just one case. Jews are assaulted by Muslims throughout Europe, in the US, the Middle East, and now in India. There is no equivalent activity on the part of Jews toward Muslims and to imply that there is is false.

You would do better to be less evasive, to begin with recent events, and deal with the different extremisms separately and historically. Lumping them together is evasive, unconvincing. It destroys your credibility.

CCNL, Arif, Farnaz and clan

WATCH OUT!!!!!!!!
Iranian revolution throw out its sledge, you can find these infiedls cut/pasting here and there on this forum. Perhaps they are paid for this service.Perhaps their burns are deep and a punishment for them.
You spit on the moon and it will on your face

I thought you might be interested in this moving post from Shoja, a Kerala Christian, on the slaughter of R. Gavriel, his Rivka who was six months pregnant, in front of their beaten two year old son brought to safety covered in his mother's blood.

s_j_thaikattil :
I wish to offer my heartfelt condolences to all the family and friends of the Indian and non-Indian victims of Mumbai 26/11. May they all find the consolation, strength and support they need to come to terms with their loss and continue with their lives. May all those who are wounded and/or have been traumatized by the incident recover completely.

My special love and condolences to two year old Moshe Holtzberg, orphaned overnight in the terrorist attack but saved miraculously by the protective hand of God that came in the form of his Indian nanny, whose heart piercing cries for his mother are haunting. Jews have lived quiet lives in India for over twenty two CENTURIES (including in my native state of Kerala), without being discriminated against or persecuted by Indians of any religion, caste or creed. The small community of Jews in Mumbai lived among Indian Muslims and had a specially good relationship with them. The fact that a Jewish house in India, which offered accommodation and Kosher food to passing Jews visiting India, was specifically targeted, has left Indians of all religious persuasions shocked beyond belief.

There are many tales of sorrow and courage associated with the Mumbai 26/11 terrorist attack.

May God use this incident of mindless violence bring people of all nations of good will together to protect the innocent and to advance God's righteousness, His mercy and His peace in all places where hate filled ideologies make people blind to their higher purpose and universal calling. I extend my special gratefulness and thanks to the US, UK and Israeli, and my own now home country Australia, governments who have been prompt in their offer of active help and support to India and Indians in their time of confusion and grief. My grateful thanks also to all governments and peoples of various nations who have offered their moral support to India and Indians.

It is a stark reminder that we live in an interdependent world and we all need each other.

Soja John Thaikattil
Sydney, Australia

December 4, 2008 7:24 PM

I'm coming to the opinion that at least for the WA Post it's no use to even put out a more or less fair opinion piece when it comes to Islam. You'll either have liars or crazies responding with half-knowledge or completely unaware of the extreme degree of bias they're injecting in their response. I mean, really, couldn't you [respondents] TRY to present your points in a fair way??? Suffice it to say that this type of mentality in the nation's capital is worth removing for SOME peace.

Being a convert I understand your desire and zeal to make excuses (defend is very close to be correct verb to use) for Muslim Terrorism more vigorously than people in born in Muslim faith.
Unfortunate rise in Hindu ultra-Nationalists in India was in response to Muslim extremism. Please study History and you will find that Hindus never left their land to conquer other countries. For more than 1000 years Hindus were killed, raped, looted, and converted by force in their own country first by Muslim Invaders, rulers and then colonized and looted by British, Portuguese and French and now they are attacked and killed on a regular basis by Muslim Terrorists.
India perhaps has suffered maximum terrorist attacks in last few years to the point that some Hindus think that it is cowardly if they do not do anything in response. Unfortunately some group response mirrors that of Muslims.

Au contraire!!!

BO can start his presidency by promulgating the following about Islam:

Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/ plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

This agenda continues as shown by the massacre at Mumbai, the assassinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/ mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino “koranics”.

And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

Current crises:

The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.