Satan, a Real and Present Danger

So many athiests spending so much time trying to convince others not to believe. If you don't believe why are you trying to convince others not to? Death will answer
all our questions. If you are right I will
never know but if I am right you are in a
lot of trouble.

Frankly, you Christians have had the Big Red Button a long time.

I know you don't want to push it.

But you take it out on the likes of me.

Your "Satan." The cost of this belief is insane paranoia.

I don't know much about these things. I'm a simple Pagan.

I don't observe, however, that apocalyptic drama is your strong suit, anyway.

Do something small. Do something good. Don't ask why. The 'God' supposedly holding back on destroying our Earth over whatever stupid little thing...

Is you.

We lived under that Sword of Damocles a long time

a long time.

by our mere human scales.

It's enough.

Do one nice thing. For no reason at all.

If you still want a Devil after that, well.

I'm sorry.

Mr.Mohler:
u r delusional. U have never seen satan, nobody has, why? becuase its bollocks. Man made it up as a convenient excuse for human flaws and hideous acts that he didn't want to blame on god.

Join us in the 21st century and take responsibility for your own actions. Blaming satan is a cop out and only gullible fanatics believe this garbage. Grow up.

Btw, all that is necessary for 'evil' to hold no dominion is for good people to do *something.*

Doesn't actually have to be big.

Look past the vanity.

Do something small. Just see it and feel it.

"And we are back to the crux of these discussions: faith. You either have it, or you don't. Those who don't take an empirical view; since they cannot touch it, taste it, or otherwise quantify it, they tend to denigrate it."

Or.... Those who demand 'faith and obedience' to a *particular* agenda lay out that 'crux' and say, "Choose one of these: it's 'free will' to choose between which of these might relieve duress.'

Kind of a stupid game, if you asked me.

They convince people, including many supposed 'atheists,' 'Our way or nothing,' and count on being able to quote miraculous repentances from the 'nothing' crowd when they're drugged, hurting, in pain, or overstressed.

But what if it's not that game at *all?*

Satan was created in Man's image, just a much as the Cults of Abraham created their god in Man's image.

All of the Evil necessary to destroy the world and keep Humans killing each other for 2500 yrs exist satan in and jehovah/allah, as they were created by warlords, Abraham, Constantine and Mohammed.

The closest real thing to satan can be found on any Saturday or Sunday morning behind a pulpit or on the floor of the mosque.

"....a tempter who seeks to subvert God's purposes and to destroy God's people."

Sounds like homophobic religious fanatics who hate, judge, condemn and exclude others like your fellow Baptists in Westboro, Kansas.

And we are back to the crux of these discussions: faith. You either have it, or you don't. Those who don't take an empirical view; since they cannot touch it, taste it, or otherwise quantify it, they tend to denigrate it.

I choose to believe. While I cannot quantify my wife's love for me, I know it exists. God's love is no less real to me.

Neither good nor evil can exist without the other; they are opposite sides of the same coin. And that is what Satan represents to me; the diametrical opposite to God. I see no way to accept the existance of one without the other.

Satan is just an excuse, a demigod invented by christians so they can forgive their god for not being truly omnipotent, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent.
At least that's how the "logic" really works.

Your superman god loves everybody, but invents this devil and gives it power over those he loves and then damns them for eternity for having been influenced.

What a crock. The supreme crock. It teaches the believer how to swallow obvious crap in one area so they can more easily swallow the Big Lie.

"Satan exists today as a defeated foe, who still has the power to oppose God and to seek to discredit God's purposes."

So, 'combat operations are over,' but... no exit strategy, re: 'War in Heaven?'

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Too often, preachers say stuff like your little headline there and people of course look for someone to 'fight.' Let themselves be led by those who aren't doing wise or good things because it's cast in the terms of 'fighting evil' when you say *this:*

"He is a real and present danger who sets himself as the enemy of God and His purposes - and as the enemy of God's people. "

It's easy to latch onto the idea of 'enemies,' and when it's hard to understand 'enemies,' to say, "Someone's God's people, others must not be, we must 'defend' ourselves...."

Much 'evil' results of this.

As to what your devil's 'due' may or may not be... it's probably not paranoia and religious jingoism.

It's part of your conceptual framework, and your own responsibility. Something you displace at peril of yourselves, your neighbors, and our future.

Probably the number one thing that gives you conservative Christians a bad name, in fact, is claiming anyone, or any thought, that disagrees with your political agendas, is in fact, your 'Satan.'

You made the myth, there. Don't expect everyone else to live by the terms and definitions *you* seek to impose on those 'Not in line with God's aims.'

Dr. Mohler: what a joy it is to read something in the Post and have it be clear, true and 100% Biblically correct. I truly thank God for blessing us today with men like you.

Danielinthelionsden: The Bible has little to say about Satan compared to the vast amount of knowlege about God and His plan for eternity, but it does tell us all we need to know about him and how he will end up (which is considerable).

The Bible, in fact, has little to say about Satan and the Devil.