We must pray for persecuted Christians

No matter how much you pray - all you're doing is talking to your fingers. There is nobody up there listening, except Santa Claus.
Grow up people. There are no gods and never were.

Noun: martyr
One who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty for refusing to renounce their faith.

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More Christians were killed for their faith within the 20th century than within all previous centuries combined. The 21st century doesn't look like it's going lessen the slaughter. Especially when others proceed to state the oppression and persecution even exists.

Of the top 11 worst countries 8 are Islamic. The remaining 3 are Communist.

North Korea remains the worst, not the Middle East.

However I find it interesting even here a poster takes a stab at former Pres. G. W. Bush. The main fault he and a majority of other Americans have is no understanding the concepts and ways of the Middle East in general. There, or anywhere else, is not where a Republic can be forced and expected to succeed. Has the U.S.S.R. after it's fall been forgotten?

In no particular order the countries:

Iraq
Iran
Egypt
Nigeria
Eritrea
Somalia
India
Pakistan
North Korea
China
Vietnam

In a majority of these countries where Christians are persecuted whether it be Communists, Muslims, Hindus, etc, Christians don't fight back. They are not allowed. Either their governments sanction the persecution or simply turn a blind eye.

For more info:

International Christian Concern
http://www.persecution.org/

Will you pray for these victims, too, or are you prayers reserved for just persecuted Christians?

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- A state hearing officer is recommending that an Ohio school board fire a science teacher accused of burning the image of a cross on students' arms.
John Freshwater has been suspended from a Mount Vernon school without pay.
The school board voted to fire him in 2008, citing an internal investigation that found he had preached his Christian beliefs in class. He also was accused of using a scientific device to mark several students' arms with a cross and keeping a Bible on his desk.

JOS, Nigeria (AP)-- Christian youths attacked a car full of Muslims returning from a wedding in central Nigeria, killing seven people inside the vehicle and sparking retaliatory violence that left one other person dead, an official said Saturday.

Actually, Christians killed solely for their beliefs are martyrs. I don't think Mohler would go so far as to say that a soldier killed in a firefight in Afghanistan is a martyr for the Christian faith. He was a martyr for his Country. Secondly, in protestant Christian circles martyrdom doesn't get you any better deal than being just a plain old believer, so the idea that martyrdom is something that evangelical Christians set out to do is a myth. Whether you have a gun to your head, or have some anonymous writer in a comments section denying the saving Grace of Christ, the test for the Christian is do you stand for Christ, or do you deny him. Evangelical Christians believe that your eternal life is set by your beliefs during this life. You are free to accept or reject the saving grace of Jesus Christ. But rejecting Him comes with a pretty eternal penalty. But we believe that its everyone's choice and our job is to supply the information so that they can affirmatively make their choice. Christians witness because they were commanded to do so and because they have joy to share. Accept us and accept Christ, that's great. Kill us or torture us for our faith, well that's great too. That's our faith.

Mohler is a mouthing clap trap
Jesus freak right wing radical
himself. Most of what he writes
involves running down other
religions, even other Christian
sects. His criticisms, like those
of the hated Islamists, spew forth
with the venom of discriminatory doctrines
of the so called "Southern Baptist
Convention".

God bless Richard Dawkins !!!!

THE BAD NEWS: Christianity & Islam are the 2 religions always involved in religious violence on one side or both. Their supremacist beliefs bring out the worst in everyone as well. Not an impressive record of spiritual development for these religions.

THE GOOD NEWS: The majority of the world is not Christian or Muslim. Most are Hindu, Buddhists, Sikh, Jain, Confucianist, Taoist, Atheist, etc. These other "religions" do not promote religiously motivated violence.

Islam is impressive for a "religion" in terms of the violence and hatred. Just look at Pakistan today and the so-called moderate clerics celebrating the murder of an innocent. The killer is showered with rose petals, and the victim is blamed. The victim did not even commit blasphemy, which should be a capital crime anyway. He just spoke against blasphemy laws.

Where are the usual apologists for the Islam as the religion o' peace?

The difference;
Muslims kill Christians because they are not Muslim.
Sometimes Christians kill Muslims, to discourage the Muslims from killing more Christians.
To liken one of these scenarios to the other is really stupid.

Apparently Mr. Mohler has a double standard when it comes to religous freedom. He appears not to care about the victim of the pro-blasphemy law assassination because he was not a Christian.

Christian martyrs have the promise of God's judgement in Revelation 6.

Fifth Seal: The Cry of the Martyrs

9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

We must pray for persecuted Christians?

I agree: We must pray over the graves
of persecuted Christians... as it would be
politically incorrect (and insensitive to
the feelings of the slaughtering Muslims)
to defend ourselves (or even to point out
that they're killing us):

S D Rodrian
http://islamisbad.com

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We must pray for persecuted Christians?

I agree: We must pray over the graves
of persecuted Christians... as it would be
politically incorrect (and insensitive to
the feelings of the slaughtering Muslims)
to defend ourselves (or even to point out
that they're killing us):

S D Rodrian
http://islamisbad.com

.

We must pray for persecuted Christians?

I agree: We must pray over the graves
of persecuted Christians... as it would be
politically incorrect (and insensitive to
the feelings of the slaughtering Muslims)
to defend ourselves (or even to point out
that they're killing us):

S D Rodrian
http://islamisbad.com

.

Mr.Mohler writes that Christians of the Middle East "remind us by their witness that Christ has enemies..". That is very true and, unfortunately, some of the worst enemies of Christ call themselves Christians! Mohler failed to mention that, for example, Iraqi Christians were thriving and living in peace and security until the Christian soldiers of the "Crusader" George Bush invaded Iraq! There are "evil" people in every religion including Muslims, Jews and Christians. But our Christian "leaders" fail to stand up to the evils of "Western" policies toward the Muslim world, especially toward the Arab countries, which inflame their "feelings" against us. Christian leaders have become more politicians than religious leaders! Christians of the ME are likely to "enjoy" peace and security when the Christian leaders condemn Western "evil" policies like blindly supporting and financing oppressive Israeli occupation(of Christians and Muslims of the Holy Land!) and policies of supporting and financing oppressive regimes like that of Egypt's Mubarak! Do you have the courage, Mr.Mohler, to say the truth and what is right about our policy towards that troubled region?

We must do more than praying. Remember that the pen is mightier than the sword; so we must write more strongly and more often and in more venues about these problems and we must not be afraid to be labeled ......phobe or having prejudices.
We must tell it as it is. Also beware of false prophets : they comes to you in sheep's clothing.

“We must pray for persecuted Christians everywhere around the world”
Why?
First, I am certainly against one person, or any group of persons killing others for pretty much any reason. These are awful crimes.

But your theology has me a bit puzzled. They are already Christians being persecuted, dying ostensibly for the crime of being Christian, what else does Jesus need? What do we say in our prayers? What is it we are asking Jesus for?
Will Jesus do less or nothing at all for those persecuted in his name unless we pitch in with our prayers as well? Is it for the lack of our prayers that Jesus does not protect them enough already?

Just trying to understand why we 'must pray'.

Dangerous ground here, Mr. Mohler.

If you're saying that all Christians killed by Muslims are martyrs, then you must also allow that all Muslims killed by Jews or Christians are also martyrs.

Is that what you mean to say?