Hinduism Advises to Stay Away from Sinner

Does Krishna and Krist is ONE ????

Dear Mr. Zed,
We are really proud for findling yourself into so deeply promoting hinduism, but promoting hinduism does not means to make news within hindus society, but really making and embracing non hindus to hinduism, like in africa and latin america, we feel you have capacity and can do.

Further I have created a website on embracing and promoting hinduism, i.e. www.jalandhar.co.in and hope you will have a look and guide me further

embrace.hinduism@gmail.com

Dear Mr. Zed,
We are really proud for findling yourself into so deeply promoting hinduism, but promoting hinduism does not means to make news within hindus society, but really making and embracing non hindus to hinduism, like in africa and latin america, we feel you have capacity and can do.

Further I have created a website on embracing and promoting hinduism, i.e. www.jalandhar.co.in and hope you will have a look and guide me further

embrace.hinduism@gmail.com

So would someone who believes that a person is defined by the househould in which they are born be a sinner? If so, wouldn't all Hindu's be sinners because they believe in the caste system and refuse to shun it?

Hinduism encourages followers to stay away from sinners...especially BIG sinners, but then extols the virtues of forgiveness. Where is the need for forgiveness when sin is avoided in personal relationships and in self conduct? Or is sin to be interpreted as inherent within all as in Christian doctrine? If so, then forgiveness of self comes first, and those who are deemed greater sinners are to be avoided? From where does the genesis of sin originate and what stands apart from this origin and declares it knows sin as opposed to virtue?

ANGELA:

Lighten up. Those commandments you quoted were given to the Hebrews who worshipped YHWH, not to the world at large.

Christ's commandments are for his disciples.

Christians are commanded to judge those within the church. Those outside the church, God will judge. (Check your Bible)

It's simply not constructive to attack other religions. Trust me, you'll have enough on your plate trying to be a good Christian. If you succeed, others may wish to become Christians, based on your actions and deeds, not on your scolds. Many Hindus put many Christians to shame with their sincere humility and kindness.

The first day Jesus read the scripture in the synagogue, he mentioned the fact that there were many lepers in the days of a certain prophet, but God only dealt with Naaman, a Syrian (Arab). The elders of the synagogue tried to kill Jesus for daring to suggest that "their" God would deal compassionately with anyone but Jews.

God is not a genie you can cork in a bottle. Nobody owns God. He deals with many persons in many ways that will astound you. After all, he created everyone. You do what he told you to do, and let him worry about the others.

Dear Mr Zed

I do agree that we are influenced by the company we keep, and the vibrations of every person we come in contact with interacts with our own vibrations and psyche for the better or for worse. Until we become spiritually mature to act independent of our environment and are able to influence the other, we need to watch the company we keep.

However if Hinduism advises one to stay away from sinners, the only way to do it would be to retire to the forest as many Sannyasis did. Not really a practical way for householders to attain God-realization! Jesus however taught that one should live in the world but not be of the world; the Christian is advised to love the sinner but hate the sin. I read the same wisdom in Indian thought about the need to grow like a lotus plant and bloom in the muddy pond; to be like the dew drop on a leaf, on it but not touched by it; to be like sandalwood that leaves a snake with the smell of sandalwood without acquiring the qualities and smell of the snake.

The prayer you chose for the US Senate was beautiful! Reading about it made me nostalgic. I recited the following Sanskrit verses for eight years in school every morning as part of our opening prayers during "assembly."

OM Asatoma Sat Gamaya,
Tamasoma Jyotir Gamaya,
Mrityorma Anritam Gamaya.

OM Sahana Vavatu,
Sahanau Bhunaktu
Sahveeryam Kara Vavahai,
Tejas Vinavati Tamas Tuma vidhwisha Vahai
OM Shanti Shanti Shantih.

Soja John Thaikattil
Sydney, Australia

I liked what Dawkins said when he was asked if he thought that man made religions.He said if it wasn't a man,it must have been a woman.

Rajan,

Which one of your 1000 Gods told you this is the way you are to live. You commit a horrific sin when you break the commandments and the second is just as important: "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I The Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love Me and keep My Commandments. HINDUISM: A MAN MADE RELIGION!

GaryD. I am in total agreement with your response.

To be honest, this sounds far too much like Christian Science, which was heavily influenced by Eastern beliefs - yes, Mary Baker Eddy tried to tie Hinduism with Christianity and ended up with a supreme aversion to Western Medicine vs 'spiritual' healing. The carryover belief was that there was a magical tranference of illness when you associated with either spiritually or physically ill persons. Afflicted humans could be healed with spiritual 'work' or intersessional prayer. I've seen this tried unsuccessfully.

My grandmother was a life-long Christian Scientist and with grime consequences, I'm sorry to say. She allowed a daughter to die of acute peritonitis rather than seek medical treatment. My father never forgave her. Nevertheless, my aunt (her other daughter) was a devoted Christian Scientist all her life.

The Buddha no doubt left the Hindu faith based on the inherent corruption of the caste system and the superstition that still pervades the social order in India even today. If there was ever a self-fulfilling mind-set to the degradation of vast multitudes of humans, it would be found in the caste system of India.

And yet, Vedanta and the Upanishads are works of great spiritual genius - so perhaps we should look to Zoroaster for truth ..... the battle between the forces of darkness and light is the essence of life. We hope his prediction of victory for the forces of light is correct!!

If you have to earn heaven you have to be really nice and apparently you aren't looking in the right places Christians are told after all to do their alms in secret.

I mean, really, anyone who actually spends their time being monastic, (as opposed to trying to impose political Christianity,) ...they have a wonderful way, in the course of their 'shunning sinners' of not needing so much as an 'I'll see if I can't just avoid having some lesbian sex while we load up this food.' to do that kind of thing.

Must be the meditation or something. Who knew.

Umm, Garyd?

" Garyd:

Pagan did you ever stop to consider 2 things?

1. Hinduism is the most popular pagan religion in the world."

Actually, despite many similarities and common roots with European Paganism, well,

Hindu people will generally *not* thank you for calling them 'pagan,' as that meant in the Colonial period 'of no religion, or of no religion worth mentioning.'

Some things change, some don't. But respect their wishes, they call themselves Hindu.

"2.Shunning the sinner and sin is what is now and always has been at the heart of the monastic lifestyle regardless of the religion."

My understanding of Hindu and other Eastern monasticism is that it is *not* in fact about *shunning sin or sinners,* but in fact *practicing nonattachment and compassion* to overgeneralize.

Frankly, India's not all that big on queer people, but I've met more Hindu and Buddhist monastic types who weren't afraid to get their hands dirty side by side with who you call a 'sinner' to help people than I have Christian ones, and that's not to say I haven't met my share of cool Christian monks.

Well, a few, anyway. They didn't 'shun' me, either, not when there was work to be done. Come on. I went to a pretty nasty Catholic school and it wasn't *that* much of a cartoon. Gods.

I don't know much about Hinduism but I would guess that you would need a world big enough that everybody could avoid everyone else.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

"In Hinduism, shunning of sinner is advised as sin is thought to be transmittable by physical contact, by thought, and by speech."

Could you tell me where I can obtain a reasonably priced sin detector? I'd like one of the newer models that detects thought-crimes as well as the more obvious speech and contact-based sin.

Also, please point me to the magic batteries I'll need to power the detector, as I understand they don't run on 9-volts or triple-A's. Or can I just plug them into my chakras?

Thanks.

Pagan did you ever stop to consider 2 things?

1. Hinduism is the most popular pagan religion in the world.

2.Shunning the sinner and sin is what is now and always has been at the heart of the monastic lifestyle regardless of the religion.

OK! Everyone start shunning... three... two... one.... Go!

Phew. What a relief it is to live in a world where religious identity isn't taken as a shorthand for political policy.

Thanks! :)

Good list you could have summed it up with one word Selfishness. If one cannot get beyond the self one will never be free of any sin.