The notorious Pastor Terry Jones

The Islamophobes and Muslim bashers in the country have had their hatred fueled by Muslim extremists.

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...and by Fox News, Rove and Gringrinch

Mrs Ben Bradlee has obviously learned her lessons in arrogance well. Her snide, condescending screed reveals that behind the facade of a section about "faith," she's no more than a common polemicist -- as behind the facade of the Religion of Peace, there lies nothing but Nazism in religious trappings.

Terry Jones might be trailer trash to you of the superior sensibilities, but guess what? He's right about Islam. And you, Sally Quinn, for all the pretensions your WaPo pulpit affords, are no more than one of Islam's useful idiots.

Another religious nut case and a genuine dingbat at that...why anybody would listen to anything this loon has to say is beyond me.

The pastor wouldn't have an international audience without the news media promoting him.

Further, in Saudi Arabia non-Wahabbi versions of the Koran are confiscated and shredded...then probably burned.

The notorious Pastor Terry Jones

Interesting how Rev Wright who "GDed America" was never referred to as notorious. As a matter of fact the leftist Media of Collusion tried to cover up Rev Wright and Obama's 20 year association with him. .
If Jones is in the news a lot, look in the mirror left wing media of collusion who LOVE fanning the flames...

Protecting our troops?
The leftist Democrats want to protect the American Troops? ROFL
They never cared about this before, trashing the military continuously, General Betrayus, kicking recruiters off campuses, giving sound bit support to the enemy:

“On January 10, 2007, the night the surge was announced, Obama declared, "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq are going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse

*Kerry trashed the troops…”Kerry then told the students that if they were able to navigate the education system, they could get comfortable jobs – “If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq,”

*Harry “The Iraq war is lost” Reid: Republicans need to stop rooting for failure

*Durbin accuses our troops of running a Nazi death camp.

*Murtha convicts troops at Haditha even before a trial.
BTW, they were all released after an investigation..

"General Betray Us", from the Obama supporters at move on

* “The blabbermouths at the NY Times chose to disclose classified information in a pathetically obvious bid to move the Iraqi elections off the front pages, “ And to help sabotage the Patriot Act reauthorization.” The Patriot Act was designed to keep up with technology to monitor disposable cell phones used by terrorists at a time when the existence of America was in jeopardy and it had a sunset clause

In Clinton speech, "I loath the military"

HYPOCRITES

On Sept. 11,2001 JIHADISTS burned down the WTC’s,Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania along with 3000 Americans. America and the world were shocked but many Muslims danced in the streets. A radical pastor in Florida wants to burn a book and it is the American public that is outraged. The FBI is sent down right away. Where was the FBI while American troop's funerals were being protested by the so-called Christian Church. No one will be dancing in the streets if the pastor does this.One thing is for sure many of us are not going to be crying over it either!!! Already though he is being threatened and the American flag is being burned. The media spins the story as usual . It is all about the PASTOR!!! He has been in the news LONGER than the Fort Hood JIHADIST was!!! The real story is about JIHADIST and the SHARIA LAW MUSLIMS. Someone and hopefully it is not one of our troops will be killed today in the name of ALLAH and SHARIA LAW!! Where is the POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS when you need it from the media?? JIHADIST and SHARIA LAW come from the KORAN. Not some pastor in Florida,not the Palestine State issue or any other Western policy. Imam Rauf and the RADICAL MUSLIM’s want it to become a “HOLY WAR” What the pastor is doing is playing right into their hands. Great soundbites for the Muslims to use to preach JIHAD!!!

Rauf’s statement said. “We are not going to toy with our religion or any other. Nor are we going to barter. We are here to extend our hands to build peace and harmony.” LMAO!!!! You are doing a GREAT job of it!!!! We see right through you!! Either you are afraid of the RADICAL’S or you are one of them!!! You want PEACE and HARMONY then say the Mosque will be moved out of respect for the victims of the WTC’s. This JIHAD started way before Sept.11,2001.

Always Remember “The Peacekeepers” 241 Marines KIA on Oct.23,1983 in Beirut,Lebanon while they slept by an Iran backed Hezbollah JIHADISTS!! and all the others killed by your PEACEFUL religion!!

"There is nothing uglier than religious bigotry."

Given Ms Quinn's hatred of the Catholic church, there is a rich irony in her statement.

I agree with so many of you. Burn the book. Burn it again. It isn't a reflection of our society. It's a reflection of why we just don't get along with extreme Muslims. Burn it. I don't care. Burn it.

Oh, I think I know what made Jones change his mind. I'll bet this item, which appeared in the Gainesville Sun a few hours before Jones had a change of heart (I don't mean to imply here he HAS a heart; it's just a figure of speech):

"The city of Gainesville ... will send Terry Jones ... a bill for the estimated tens of thousands of dollars it will cost to police the area if the church goes through with its plan...."

The Constant Weader at www.RealityChex.com

Since the Pastor didn't say it, I'll say it for him:

'If I'm wrong about this Koran-burning thing, may God strike me down dead!'

Unfortunately, the "old coot" doesn't have even half enough sense to simply shut up!

This says less about Jones than it does about the sad state of the U.S. news media.

nobody has manipulated the media like this guy?

Ever hear of Obama?

Sort of like the pastor - just hates America more.

Pastor Jones isn't a Pastor, shuckins' he ain't even Notorious.

He's a PSYCHO that's what he is.

DCWCA posts:
"Sally Quinn's byline stated:

>>Rarely has anyone manipulated the media the way Fla. church leader has.

Did you forget about Barack Obama, Ms Quinn?"

And, Ms.Quinn, I don't know how you could have forgotten the biggest press manipulator of the decade, ex-governor Sarah Palin.

be honest: the media conspired with this old man, they werent "manipulated" by him.

Given his history in Germany (which does a viable history)... Quinn may lose his church and set it on fire... while claiming he as a Christian was the prime victim of prejudice everywhere.

Who cares

BobfromLI wrote: "It seems that he was kicked out of a church he was running in Germany because of accusations of controlling and manipulating parishioners to provide free labor and absolute loyalty."

Free labor and absolute loyalty? Wait a minute, that sounds a lot like some guy with a funny mustache in Germany a few decades ago. Wasn't there something about some "Führer Principle"? And didn't the Rev. Jones spend time in Germany?

Interesting indeed: ALL media blame one person who hasn't even done anything yet except mere announcement about action that looks completely LEGAL. Narrow minded, hypocritical, you may say a lot about the guy, agreed, but this is not the point.

The point is that NOBODY is blaming all those who organize violent demonstrations, burn American flags and call to kill American people.

WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE? Can you give me honest answer Ms. Quinn?

@nychap44: Sure about that? When the Christians really took over in 380 they made illegal ALL other faiths (courtesy of Emperor Theodosius I and his De Fide Catolica). Other than the persecuted Jews, adherents of all other religions were effectively made criminals.

Per you, the Muslims were far more tolerant.

And who burned the Great Library of Alexandria? Not the Muslims. The Christians burned the ancient world's greatest repository of knowledge. The new movie Agora lays it all out.

BTW, when the Catholic Crusaders conquered Jerusalem in 1099, they massacred everyone, including Christians. As devout Catholics, they knew that Orthodox Christians were heretics who needed to be cleansed from the Earth. Wonder what the good Rev. Jones thinks of Catholics. Burn them at the stake, perhaps?

So as far as religious persecution is concerned, the Christians have a huge lead over the Muslims--especially when it comes to genocides. Your boy Herr Hitler showed us what Christian anti-semitism is all about.

As for history, Christians started it, and achieved heights of bloodshed never matched by the Muslims.

Why is it that anyone is listening to this guy? He's crazy and even his daughter says so: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,716858,00.html . It seems that he was kicked out of a church he was running in Germany because of accusations of controlling and manipulating parishioners to provide free labor and absolute loyalty. And now, he wants to be somehow adored and probably bribed into shutting up. Why not ignore him?

Where (in hell) is Mark Twain when you need him?? He would have LOVED this!!

Looks like the Muslims started it.
In the year 637 the armies of Islam lead by the Caliph Omar conquered the city of Jerusalem, the center of the Christian world and a magnet for Christian pilgrims. The city's Muslim masters exhibited a certain level of religious tolerance. No new churches were to be built and crosses could not be publicly displayed outside church buildings, but the pilgrims were allowed to continue their treks to the holiest shrines of Christendom (the pilgrims were charged a toll for access). The situation remained stable for over 400 years. Then, in the latter part of the 11th century, the Turks swarmed westward out of Central Asia overrunning all that lay in their path. Jerusalem fell to them in 1076. The atmosphere of tolerance practiced by the followers of Omar was replaced by vicious attacks on the Christian pilgrims and on their sacred shrines in the Holy City. Reports of robberies, beatings, killings, degradation of holy sites and the kidnapping for ransom of the city's patriarch made their way back to Europe. To the Europeans the Holy Land was now in the smothering grip of the Infidel and something must be done.

Sally Quinn's byline stated:

>>Rarely has anyone manipulated the media the way Fla. church leader has.

Did you forget about Barack Obama, Ms Quinn?

Posted by: barbnc | September 10, 2010 4:54 PM
"For the media to admit to being manipulated by a crazy guy is the entire reason no one believes anything reported by "journalists" today."

The fall from REALITY and reporting actual news has been long and hard for the FORMERLY respected press/media.

Most of the media are simply PARTY ORGANS.

Most are no longer independent arbitors of facts and news, they make the news and then report their biased opinions and views, as facts.

The media has taken a hard left plunge from reality and off the cliff.

Ignore this idiot's whimsical fancies to do or not to do. Freedom of speech is NEVER free. If any of our uniformed men or women (or even our non-uniformed citizenry) have to pay the price of this idiot's actions, HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE.

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A New York taxi driver has already paid the price of the Bloomberg-Rauf mosque proposal. Shall we hold Bloomberg and Rauf responsible?

If A says something which makes B angry and B harms C, whom do we blame? The one who harmed (B) or the one who spoke (A)?

Whichever it is, we do have to apply the same rules. If Jones would have been responsible for harm to our troops then Bloomberg and Rauf ARE responsible for the harm to the taxi driver.

Nearly 1,000 years ago, The (Catholic) Church called for Crusades against the Muslim infidels.

Now, we are too scared to see a single silly Pastor of a tiny church in Florida-and no where near any Muslim part of the world-exercise his Constitutional freedoms. The fact that it could lead to demonstrations and death is an indictment of the Muslim crazies, not us. We are the psychologically and spiritually mature culture but we must be careful not to project an image of being intimidated and cowering in fear from a bunch of 7th century goons. We'll be living under Sharia law with that type of mentality.

Burn the damn book.

For the media to admit to being manipulated by a crazy guy is the entire reason no one believes anything reported by "journalists" today.

"Rarely has anyone manipulated the media the way Fla. church leader has."

Give me a break. You people go down on your backs in front of all comers.

This tagline is ridiculous - Pastor Jones didn't manipulate anything. The media ran with this story - they are responsible for sensationalizing a story about 1 single pastor with a small congregation. The fact that this story was so hyped up by the media that a President and General had to issue public statements is outrageous. You want to blame one man for increasing violence against Americans? How about blaming yourselves for giving him the megahorn.

Within a year or two, the most Reverend Terry Jones will convert to Islam and become an imam. He probably cares squat about the Koran, or even Matthew, but will easily succumb to some friendly chats with Muslim leaders and opportunities to raise money and attract congregants. Think of it: multiply the membership from 50 to 5,000, plus all public attention and the wet-hanky repentence.

Honestly, if that spectacle did anything to make Afghans think better of America, it might be worth the hokum. But it probably won't work out that way. There will always be something to incite rage. Afghanistan has its rant-mongers, just as we have ours.

Skillful hucksters manipulate the media all the time ... all of you whether in print, broadcast, or Internet, are cowards when it comes to ignoring the next 'balloon boy' story. That is shameful. However, this particular lunatic taps white bigotry, and that made it viral. A few months ago it was Hispanic immigrants, before that it was coded phrases about blackness. We whites are 'losing' our nation to diversity, never mind that is how we had the power in the 20th century, tapping into diversity. But bigotry comes from fear, and nothing is more fearful than loss of perceived power. There will be more balloon-boy stories, and the media will fill up bandwidth and airtime with blanket coverage. But nothing sells quite like polarization.

The change will come when some major outlet says not a word about the next balloon-boy incident. Just silence while they cover the news. That will really be something.

Jones hasn't manipulated the press. Quite the contrary, the self serving U.S. media has hyped the few flurries of discontent in to a blizzard of momentous proportions. And in the meantime whipped Muslims across the world into a frenzied high. Another case of the media feeding on itself.

More than 4,000 Americans died to bring freedom to the largely Muslim people of Iraq. More than 1,000 Americans have died to bring freedom to the largely Muslim people of Afghanistan.

There is no greater love than to lay down one's life for his brother.

Thus, if the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were, as we have been told, were to bring freedom to those people, and we have died for them, then they are our brothers and sisters.

If that is true, then this proposed act of rank offense planned in Florida is aimed not at our enemies, but at our brothers.

He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind.

The pastor then, proposes an act that would actually put him on the side of America's enemies -- those that wish to defile and dishonor the deaths of our men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan and those of our brothers and sisters that we went there to liberate.

That is why his act is offensive -- not merely because he seeks to childishly destroy a book some hold sacred -- but, because his act dishonors the people for which Americans gave their last full measure of devotion to save.

Our men and women may not have all held the Koran sacred, but they died so that those people of good who do might live in freedom.

The burning of the Koran, then, spits in the eyes of our war dead and desecrates their graves, which are hallowed only by the fact that they fought and died to regain the freedom God gave to each human being, regardless of their religion.

Jones hasn't manipulated the press. Quite the contrary, the self serving U.S. media has hyped the few flurries of discontent in to a blizzard of momentous proportions. And in the meantime whipped Muslims across the world into a frenzied high. Another case of the media feeding on itself.

Based on this guy's MO and past here and in Germany, it seems more than plausible that HE is lying about the conversation he had with the Imam just so that he can then say - "They lie! They don't keep their promises".

In my mind, it is very unlikely that any concessions would have been made (or even falsely promised) with respect to the NYC mosque/outreach center to appease this moron.

If he burns the Quran, I think its time to start looking for missing bolts on his license plate, start investigating his past tax returns, etc. He is a punk who obviously loves the attention he is getting (which surely won't be thwarted through pleas to the press).

The 'pastor' is not a religious man, but rather a small business owner.

He is in the entertainment business, and is both the management and talent of his firm.

The same could be said for thousands of so-called pastors, preachers and speakers of The Word.

The convert pulpit-speechifying into silver and gold, which they invest back into their businesses, or keep for themselves.

While it may bear resemblance to religion, they are merely businessmen and women who instead of selling patent medicines or vegetable peelers peddle storytelling of a perfumed heaven and a sulfurous hell.

For this, they not only get silver and gold to spend on themselves, but the privilege of being exempt from taxation.

Pastor Jones is a wacko. And the press is just as bad for covering this guy. It is a story without legs. If he were on the radio, he'd be a shock jock. Burning the Q'ran in a country with religious freedom is a slap against the Constitution.

You can substitute "Old Testament" here as well. It's all about what people choose to get worked up about. If silly, symbolic gestures are your thing ... have a ball.

WmarkW wrote:

So how SHOULD we protest the contents of the Quran?

Do its advocates get to hide behind a hate-speech shield to protect its misogyny, violence and intolerance?

@ WMARKW:

In answer to your question:

By writing your comment, YOU JUST PROTESTED IT. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

IT'S CALLED CIVIL SPEECH. IT's FREE. IT'S EASY. And if its CIVIL, IDEAS ARE SHARED AND NO CRIMES ARE COMMITTED OR INCITED.

Terry Jones needs to follow fellow cult leader Jim Jones into history!

The media is stupid for taking the Pastor's bait. Without media support, the Pastor will wither away. With it, hateful folks are juiced up.

In this comment column we have juiced up, paranoid, and prejudiced folks writing about Islam and the Koran who surely haven't read the Koran. These folks follow like demagoguery of their ministers and others just like sheep follow the flock leader with out question.

Around, the world, paranoid and prejudiced Muslims, juiced up by demagogues, too, are following their flock leader into riot.

Stupid people.

I hope he burns it. It will show how impotent the Obama administration is. And the Koran sucks also. Stoning little girls. What a miserable religion and how miserable are the anti burn mob.
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WOW!!!
This coming from the people who went to church on sunday and then packed the kids in the car with some food went to the park and had a picnic while watching an African American being shot, hanged, and burned. Even the Pastor who spoke that morning was in attendance. What a miserable religion Christianity is!

Why does the media keep forgetting to mention that Dove demonstrates with and openly admires and supports Westboro Baptist Church?

From what I hear, here are several radical Islamic groups threatening the life of Pastor Jones and members of his church. Instead of wasting money, if this dingbat goes trough with his threat to burn the Quran, just stand back and do nothing. In fact, broadcast, worldwide, that the government is staying out of this food fight. Let them kill him, wipe out his church, slaughter every member of his congregation. He has the right to act like a suicidal twit. That doesn't impose upon the rest of us an obligation to defend him.

this isn't about religion or faith in any shape or form. this is the media exploiting yet another wedge issue rooted in hate as elections approach!!!! that's all this is. a pastor with 50 members gets world wide attention? Come on America. be smarter than that.

liberal media my A-double-S. if the media were liberal would rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck and others be households name with the platforms they have. I think not.

He's not good, the press are fools, who will shine a light on anything that will get them viewers/readers etc. Just like the White House party crashers, the Mosque opponents, and this guy, the press is all over it to the point of ignoring things that should be covered.

I've always liked Sally Quinn and Kathleen Parker but recently they seem to have lowered their "bars" of what's valuable to say and what's not.

If this Florida "pastor" puts a face on Christianity, is there any wonder that organized religion is losing members by droves.

The day they flew the planes into buildings to kill as many people as they could without any outcry from the muslim world was the day I decided to treat them all the same. If we bow down to every threat for cartoons, books and book burnings we are giving up and they all laugh behind our backs. pull our troops out and let them wipe each other out because muslims hate other muslims just as much as non muslims the shiites hate everybody. We should pull out with the proviso that if we are ever attacked again we will turn that country into a sheet of glass. It's time to man up in this country and stop letting these so called terrorist push us around. Enough is enough!!

The notorious Pastor Terry Jones

Interesting how Rev Wright who "GDed America" was never referred to as notorious. As a matter of fact the leftist Media of Collusion tried to cover up Rev Wright and Obama's 20 year association with him. .
If Jones is in the news a lot, look in the mirror left wing media of collusion who LOVE fanning the flames...

Protecting our troops?
The leftist Democrats want to protect the American Troops? ROFL
They never cared about this before, trashing the military continuously, General Betrayus, kicking recruiters off campuses, giving sound bit support to the enemy:

“On January 10, 2007, the night the surge was announced, Obama declared, "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq are going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse

*Kerry trashed the troops…”Kerry then told the students that if they were able to navigate the education system, they could get comfortable jobs – “If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq,”

*Harry “The Iraq war is lost” Reid: Republicans need to stop rooting for failure

*Durbin accuses our troops of running a Nazi death camp.

*Murtha convicts troops at Haditha even before a trial.
BTW, they were all released after an investigation..

"General Betray Us", from the Obama supporters at move on

* “The blabbermouths at the NY Times chose to disclose classified information in a pathetically obvious bid to move the Iraqi elections off the front pages, “ And to help sabotage the Patriot Act reauthorization.” The Patriot Act was designed to keep up with technology to monitor disposable cell phones used by terrorists at a time when the existence of America was in jeopardy and it had a sunset clause

In Clinton speech, "I loath the military"

HYPOCRITES

The MIGHTY UNITED STATES is COW, COWING to Muslim Radicals around the world. We are allowing a Mosque at ground zero. We we demonizing a pastor that plans to burn the Quran in protest of 911.
So now anything they want in the future will be granted for fear they might be upset and demonstrate/attack Americans around the world. Equal air time? Color of our airplanes? Demand we leave Iraq and Afghanistan?
Teach Islamic law in our schools? Govern cities in accordance with Sharia Law?
All future Airline/Bus/Train Hi-Jackers will be given ALL THEIR DEMANDS.?
Should we have welcomed the Nazi’s with open arms?
When did the US become a country of WIMPS?

America must deal with the Islamophobic hatred in our nation
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what are you talking about??

Let this guy burn any book that he want's to. All we have to do is stop all of the media publicity on this guy and he will disappear into the darkness. Stop giveing him all of this attention. It just gives him more momentum. Let him burn this book with 15 people watching it with no media!
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no because then the media would have to talk about real candidates for office instead of being able to imply that they secretly are in kahoots with this guy.

I hope he burns it. It will show how impotent the Obama administration is. And the Koran sucks also. Stoning little girls. What a miserable religion and how miserable are the anti burn mob.

Are we that arrogant or just that stupid that we don't act like it?

Posted by: kentuckywoman2 | September 10, 2010 2:47 PM
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I think you answered your own question

This episode is a wonderful example of how individuals today use politics and religion to raise themselves to positions of celebrity and power. Simply put: hate sells; fear fuels hate; and he who can engender fear in the masses and fan those flames into hate raises him/herself into a position of celebrity and riches. People across the nation listen to this person, quote this person, and take their message of fear and hate to heart. This is the formula in our country today for those who desperately crave the attention of the masses and the add-on of great wealth. Turn on any talk radio show; listen with an objective, critical ear, and see if it isn't true. Pastor Jones was simply attempting to emulate a formula he saw work so well for others. He just dumped too much fuel too fast, and the fire got out of control.

The White Right is so eager that American military lives are expendable. It's no surprise coming from the flag-pin crowd. Most whom have never put their lives on the line for their country. Now don't take it personal guy's YES some of you have served, but the #'s don't lie. Now you're going to hang your integrity on the likes of this guy and we're supposed to take you seriously? He never served either, an outcast German cult leader. What's the attraction there I wonder? Hatred is destroying your sense of Country and Pride. As if Jesus would approve of him or you. C'MON!

kentuckywoman2 you just sound like the Christian one eyed Shiekh~!

Unless national security is seriously endangered, I do not think that we should limit the freedom to protest. As a former journalism teacher/reporter, however, I believe that "shock television" from right, left, and the middle in the pursuit of ratings sometimes doesn't exercise enough restraint. Who cares about the morally challenged, judgment impaired minister of a tiny Florida church? I sincerely hope that he doesn't speak for any sort of majority of Americans. The Muslim friends I made while living at International House in college were wonderfully peace-loving people. The American Muslims I have known since were truly saddened by the militaristic twisting of their faith by extremists at 9/11. To look back on the fad phrase WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? I think he would show compassion for others who have come to God in a different way. We Christians are better than this, people. And if we aren't, then we need to be.

So, if Moslems choose to kill Americans because Terry Jones burned a Koran, it's Terry Jones' fault?

I don't think so.

Or is it OK for me to kill a Moslem because somebody in Pakistan burned an American flag?

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Wrong analogy, Terry Jones is not burning the Pakistani flag is he?

I think there is plenty of blame to go around, but no one should blame "the media," whatever that means at this point in time.

There are plenty of stories that get buried deep inside news outlets, printed and online. What brings something like this, an otherwise insignificant "minister" making obviously attention-seeking provocative threats and claims, to the front burner of international attention? It's us, the audience who endlessly consumes media about "celebrities."

From Paris Hilton to movie star couples to hate-speaking "religious leaders" - can we please collectively see how this modern cult of the media can range from being a giant waste of time to actually causing real harm? If we didn't pay attention to this stuff, it would go away. The news and entertainment companies are only dishing out what people want.

I know this will probably never happen - but wouldn't it be great to return to the days when most celebrities had to actually do something remarkable to become famous?

From the Baha'i scriptures: "The unbelievers and the faithless have set their minds on four things: first, the shedding of blood; second, the burning of books; third, the shunning of the followers of other religions; fourth, the extermination of other communities and groups." (Baha'u'llah, Tablets of Baha'u'llah, p. 91)

It is reprehensible to count someone else's sin as an excuse to commit still another. A Christian wants to burn a book and a Muslim wants to kill the burner. Then Christians and Muslims want to shun each other; then the Muslims and Christians want to exterminate each other. (Don't pretend that extremists in both camps haven't already suggested this, even in the comments on this site). Both are wrong. They have become "unbelievers and faithless." How easy, in the name of one's own idea of "good", to betray the principles of Jesus and Muhammad.

I personally find it pathetic that Americans are no so afraid of the Muslims that we're basically kowtowing to them? Trying to placate terrorists with tolerance, kind words and behavior?

BAH HUMBUG.

I seriously doubt that burning a few Qu'rans will cause Islamic terrorists to launch an attack.

If we have to live in that house of cards, where the military, the president, and "all the king's men" are AFRAID of Muslim retaliation, then we've LOST OURSELVES AS A COUNTRY.

Pathetic, completely pathetic.

Burn 'em, baby, burn 'em! The message I'd be getting if I were Muslim is that Americans have had ENOUGH. Muslim clerics need to start taking responsibility for their religion and the consequences of jihad & terrorism.

Muslim clerics need to speak out against the terrorists and denounce their actions.

I don't see that happening...do you?

If Islam is such a violent religion, then perhaps it should simply be banned. After all, many Muslim countries don't allow any other religion to be practiced.

Tit for tat, I say. I'm tired of all this pussyfooting around. America needs to remember 9/11 and start thinking smart, regardless of how unpopular it is, in preventing terrorism.

I think we're just wasting money and lives trying to contain terrorism, let alone eradicate it, in the Middle East. If we're so worried about further attacks, then perhaps we'd better start getting smart, like some European countries that are wising up.

I personally think we should, at least for awhile, ban all foreign-born Muslims from entering the U.S. (except for those having business with the U.S. government at the While House). We should monitor all Muslims in the U.S., including their mosques and all public gatherings.

After all, these people have DECLARED WAR ON US! Are we that arrogant or just that stupid that we don't act like it?

I mean, we can survive or we cannot. But we're not going to be able to have our cake and eat it, too.

He manipulated the poor, helpless media, eh? This has to be one of the stupidest analyses offered but no surprise to hear you and the media beg off your complicity in promoting one lone nut in Florida. Of course, you could spend your time asking Imams and Muslims why they get their panties in a wad over this one lone nut while looking the other way at atrocities carried out every week in the name of their god. The media is complicit in the endangerment of our troops. Period. Grow up.

Wendell Goler nailed Obama with his double-edged question about the Koran burner and the Mosque near the 9-11 site.

Obama knew it, then ran before Wendell Goler could ask the follow-up question.

"Rarely has anyone manipulated the media the way Fla. church leader has"

REALLY.........?

In reality, the MEDIA made this guy.
They love to hate him and CAN'T get enough of him.

In reality, The MEDIA is manipulating the public for GREED, just to sell their papers and internet ads.

oh those poor, defenseless magpies victimized by a cunning terry jones who insisted he be front-page in the newspapers and that cable chatterbunnies spend hours upon hours yammering about. they have no defense against that.

except, perhaps, just saying 'no'.

There is NOTHING worse and more destructive than ignorant religious leaders! Absolutely nothing!
Superstition (Astrology/Tarot/Fortune Tellers/Snake-oil sales victims/Organized Religions) - Mankind's BANE!

This Burning of the Quran makes sense due to it's nature. It is in principle the same thing as the ground zero mosque. They probably should not burn the Quran; But according to the constitution it is ok. They probably should not build a mosque at ground zero; But according to the constitution it is ok. So you see. Start the fire and let them burn.

Terry Jones wasn't born yesterday. Where's the mainstream media coverage of what he's been up to the last thirty or so years? I find the absence of investigation into who this man is, beyond Dove Church's endlessly repeated 50 members, disturbing. Might have gone a long way towards deflating this story from 1st Amendment/Islam-bashing/global hysteria. But I guess that kind of journalism doesn't exist much any more. I'm not so sure that the media manipulation asserted above has been a one-way street.

Clearly there is no justification for insulting and demeaning anybody's religious beliefs or for degrading what others hold sacred. Nevertheless, doesn't it seem a tad paradoxical that adherents of this "religion of peace" are threatening to murder Americans around the world if this fool in Florida does something that they don't like?

Ignore this idiot's whimsical fancies to do or not to do. Freedom of speech is NEVER free. If any of our uniformed men or women (or even our non-uniformed citizenry) have to pay the price of this idiot's actions, HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE.

The media could have ignored this guy but they didn't. Instead they made him a big deal.

Even know, Sally, go her job the old fashioned way she slept with the boss, Quinn, can't quite let it go.

Hey, Sally -- how's that WEDDING coming along?

"'One only hopes that Muslims around the world can see the Christian protests against the burning and understand that it is only a hand full of nuts trying to insult them - and not the Christian world itself."

How ironic this statement is... maybe we should also realize that "its only a handful of Muslims that are terrorists and not the Muslim world itself."

He won't burn the Quran. He never intended to in the first place. This was just a publicity stunt. He'll make up some reason not to go through with it; most likely it will be something to do with divine inspiration.

If he goes through with burning a Quran it will be a self-correcting problem. An Islamic zealot will kill him, and possibly some or all of his church. I suspect facing his own, severely shortened, mortality had as big a role as anything in the suspension of his plans.

Nearly 1,000 years ago, The (Catholic) Church called for Crusades against the Muslim infidels.

Now, we are too scared to see a single silly Pastor of a tiny church in Florida-and no where near any Muslim part of the world-exercise his Constitutional freedoms. The fact that it could lead to demonstrations and death is an indictment of the Muslim crazies, not us. We are the psychologically and spiritually mature culture but we must be careful not to project an image of being intimidated and cowering in fear from a bunch of 7th century goons. We'll be living under Sharia law with that type of mentality.

Burn the damn book.

Personally i believe that Jones is a nut.

He certainly doesn't understand that non-Christians can be as devout as he is. Actually we should probably "non-Protestant".

The one thing he has missed is that the Christian world has been very vocal in their condemnation of his idiot idea of book burning.

One only hopes that Muslims around the world can see the Christian protests against the burning and understand that it is only a hand full of nuts trying to insult them - and not the Christian world itself.

A couple of generations ago, bigots like this were out burning crosses and bombing black churches.

@TheHillman:

"But a special shout out goes to American Christian extremists. You all knew the extremists in the Islamic world would make a huge deal out of this, once you started with the Obama secret Muslim and Ground Zero Mosque is offensive because, you know, all Muslims were behind 9/11..... "

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OK, so I guess you think American Christian extremists should stick to less confrontational actions, like flying airplanes into office buildings?

Sally,

I enjoyed your column. It was spot on. And I am heartened that so many in the media and government have condemned Jones's incitement.

But I am struck by a disconnect here. A few years

"If even one American is killed because of Pastor Jones's actions, how will they feel about a Christian extremist imperiling the lives of their own countrymen?"

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So, if Moslems choose to kill Americans because Terry Jones burned a Koran, it's Terry Jones' fault?

I don't think so.

Or is it OK for me to kill a Moslem because somebody in Pakistan burned an American flag?

Jones burning the Koran gives patriotic Americans something to cheer. Islam is an evil alien ideology brought by unwanted immigrants. Our country is now living through a time of dispossession, where millions are immigrating from backwater countries to no good purpose, refusing to assimilate, causing violence and chaos, draining the public treasury, and stealing jobs from citizens in our static economy.

Here is a moment when we can reflect on what needs to be done for us to survive. The very first step towards self-preservation: elect a government that ends birthright citizenship and places a moratorium on more immigration, especially from Muslim countries.

The religious Christian right in this country bear responsibility for a lot of this mess.

As does the religious Islamic right in Islamic countries.

The Christian right created the modern Republican Party, and has been instrumental in the "Ground Zero Mosque" debacle, egging people on over something that quite honestly is none of our business.

You chaps created this controversy for cheap political gain.

And your unsubtle suggestions that Obama is a secret Muslim?

How's that feeling for you now? Now that it's becoming clear that your cheap political power play really is resulting in others, including American soldiers, dying overseas?

I for one would prefer to avoid a worldwide religious war.

So stop it already. We've really had enough of this nonsense from you.

That goes for all you extremists, Christian and Islamic.

But a special shout out goes to American Christian extremists. You all knew the extremists in the Islamic world would make a huge deal out of this, once you started with the Obama secret Muslim and Ground Zero Mosque is offensive because, you know, all Muslims were behind 9/11..... amazing how they managed to keep it secret beforehand, what with their being a billion of them worldwide...

Why did you egg them on unnecessarily?

"So how SHOULD we protest the contents of the Quran?

Do its advocates get to hide behind a hate-speech shield to protect its misogyny, violence and intolerance?"

Um, exactly how you protest the misogyny, violence, and intolerance found in the Bible.

Unless you count the stunning ethnic cleansings in the Old Testament, the subjugation of women, the xenophobia, the outright racism, the acceptance of slavery, and all the other hellishness that one can read into the Bible as ok.

Both the Koran and the Bible have some truly terrible passages.

The news media has missed the point. Jones is not the only one planning the Qur'an burning. The issue is that America must deal with the Islamophobic hatred in our nation.

On September 11 at 2 PM in Washington DC's Freedom Plaza, some of us will stand together in a community public gathering to support freedom of religion and freedom of worship. See 911Freedom.com

Let this guy burn any book that he want's to. All we have to do is stop all of the media publicity on this guy and he will disappear into the darkness. Stop giveing him all of this attention. It just gives him more momentum. Let him burn this book with 15 people watching it with no media!

So how SHOULD we protest the contents of the Quran?

Do its advocates get to hide behind a hate-speech shield to protect its misogyny, violence and intolerance?