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America, many have called you Babylon the Great! And I tell you as Daniel was raised in Babylon he changed the whole nation to Me, says the Lord. And I tell you that this generation will do the same. For this generation, and their belief, their pursuit of God will allow the fountains of the earth to awaken and the great reign of the Spirit will shine upon them.

It's a great achievement for Islamic leaders and scholars as well as Newsweek and the Washington post to present this imperative opportunity for inter cultural and global philosophical dialogue. What's important is that by exchanging our ideas and comments regarding inter religious relations and world events that affect our views of each other as fellow human beings. Since the advent of humanity, We strove to make sense of the world we live in and the lives we've experienced. Worldwide curiosities to learn the true nature of life and our universe is an exceptionally rare virtue upon life on Earth. In other words, we're the only known species on the planet who've pursued to unravel these great mysteries and developed written philosophies based upon our understanding of the world around us.
One such philosophy that lasted throughout the ages of humanity is commonly known as religion and spirituality. Ever since our early belief in the Sky God and the God Mother from ancient Pagan times, we vigorously pursued to unravel the truth about our most profound questions. As any educated person would know that religion and their core beliefs or faith have evolved over time. Paganism, Monotheism and Polytheism have been influenced by humanity as these great philosophies have influenced our perceptions and decisions in life over the ages. Over time humanity has embraced diverse religious faiths and spiritual convictions that continue to influence our behavior in our times and most likely beyond.
What's vital for humanity's progress and even survival is to know the true nature of faith itself. To understand the true origins of faith. But most of all, is to accept the truth for whatever it may be. Each one of us will learn the absolute truth once we die. But until that time comes for anyone of us to depart this world, we really don't know the answer to God's existence nor do we have the absolute truth in regards to the true nature of God. Besides if we did possess the truth, there would've been only one religion on Earth with no diversification of any way, shape of form. There would only be one holy scripture written throughout human history.
Considering one's religious faith to be absolute, while considering others to be false would be ethnocentric at best. While collectively searching to unravel the mysteries on nature, life and the universe through sincere reasoning and serious research would be enlightening at its worst. Most importantly, we must accept the fact is that none of us have conclusive evidence to confirm our core beliefs and there's always an immanent change that our most cherished beliefs could be wrong. Our greatest challenge would be to tolerate the truth no matter what it may ultimately be. With such an open mind, we would be able to overcome any future discovery that would contradict our faith regarding the true nature of life, spirituality and divinity.
Humanity does have the ability to achieve such a social achievement. However, it's solely up to humanity and not any other entity or groups of entities to decide our destinies. Each one of us has a choice to make; either hopelessly engaging into meaningless inter cultural conflicts or combine our scientific and cultural gifts to thrive into an enlightened global civilization that could ultimately expand beyond our solar system. The choice is yours, and the time to make it is now!

Bob...
Plenty of evidence and arguments have been provided by biblical scholars in favor of the existence of God. What is required now is a verdict on said evidence. But, given the hostile antagonistic tone of your writing, it's safe to assume you wont be satisfied with what they have to say anyway.

Nietzsche's dead....

peacetroll:

"1 Corinthians 15:19
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable."

20 أَمَّا الآنَ فَالْمَسِيحُ قَدْ قَامَ مِنْ بَيْنِ الأَمْوَاتِ بِكْراً لِلرَّاقِدِينَ.

21 فَبِمَا أَنَّ الْمَوْتَ كَانَ بِإِنْسَانٍ، فَإِنَّ قِيَامَةَ الأَمْوَاتِ أَيْضاً تَكُونُ بِإِنْسَانٍ.

22 فَإِنَّهُ، كَمَا يَمُوتُ الْجَمِيعُ فِي آدَمَ، فَكَذَلِكَ سَيَحْيَى الْجَمِيعُ فِي الْمَسِيحِ،

23 عَلَى أَنَّ لِكُلِّ وَاحِدٍ رُتْبَتَهُ: فَأَوَّلاً الْمَسِيحُ بِصِفَتِهِ الْبِكْرَ؛ وَبَعْدَهُ خَاصَّتُهُ لَدَى رُجُوعِهِ،

24 وَبَعْدَ ذَلِكَ الآخِرَةُ حِينَ يُسَلِّمُ الْمَسِيحُ الْمُلْكَ لِلهِ الآبِ بَعْدَ أَنْ يَكُونَ قَدْ أَبَادَ كُلَّ رِئَاسَةٍ وَكُلَّ سُلْطَةٍ وَكُلَّ قُوَّةٍ.

25 فَإِنَّهُ لاَبُدَّ أَنْ يَمْلِكَ «إِلَى أَنْ يَضَعَ جَمِيعَ الأَعْدَاءِ تَحْتَ قَدَمَيْهِ».

The word gospel means "Good News" and the good news is for all people. Jesus is the foundation no other. Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum

David,

All men die, and we know that life is short, in the case of Mr. Graham, it is apparent that his time is soon, but what is to be known is that God will raise up many others in his place! There will come a rising of great, young and new evangelists to fill the vacancy of one of the greatest evangelists in our American history. This is a joy to know. I thank you for your sincerity.

Psalms 71:17 says, "Since my youth, Oh God, you have taught me, and to this day I declare your marvelous deeds."

Paul spoke to Timothy who was a young man these words in 2 Timothy 4:5-6 "But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, and discharge all the duties of your ministry. For I am already being poured out like a drink offering and the time has come for my departure."

Those with ears that listen, Timothy was to respond with spiritual alertness and discernment. There would be hardship for him as in all of us who are believers in the faith, but we are to endure them with the grace of Christ. The work of the evangelist is to spread the gospel. Some Christians have the gift of evangelism as others have the gift of prophecy, but we are all called to spread the good news and encourage the brethren. Our lip service and our lives give service to this. In the case of Mr. Graham he has the anointing of the evangelistic gift like others have not seen in many years. But because of his tremendous fruit many new evangelists will build from his great foundation that he will leave behind. (1 Timothy 4:1-2).

Paul was hoping to see Timothy again (the youthful man) to give Timothy a word, but with careful consideration he realized that might not happen. The expectation of his approaching death was his since of urgency. He wanted to spur Timothy on to continue in the evangelistic movement to preach the gospel to the nations (evangelism). Paul shows him all the sacrifices he made for this sake, all the troubles he endured and even the rewards and blessings he received. Paul was aware that he was slowly dying in God's service, and through his death it would complete his drink offering to God. "I have fought the good fight I have finished the race, I have kept the faith."

Joshua,

I'm very curious. How did you come up with this seemingly prophetical message? Also, is it really prophecy to know that Billy Graham will die soon? Also, after the fact that we already know his wife died the other day? I mean, Billy Graham is like 200 years old, so I'm sure his time is coming very soon right? Not only that but as we know he is very ill and has been undergoing treatments at the Mayo Clinic. Is this prophetical, or just plain obvious.

I guess what I'm trying to find out is if you consider yourself to be prophetical and an instrument of God, then by what authority are you giving this prophecy? Gotta test the spirits ya know!

To Bob: I don't have to prove the existence of God and I can't prove the existence of God but God will in His time. You know none of us could even be talking about this if God hadn't created us and given us free will in the first place, interesting isn't it. The seventh day is on its way, of course night is coming first, be ready. A lot of people seem to know God's Name but a lot of them don't seem to know much about God, Thank God that God is nothing like a lot of people think. Take care, Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

In my experience we can definitely scare god with our inquiries.

A while back I asked Zeus if he planned to hook up with Semele again, and he practically wet himself! What I didn't realize is that Hera was standing right behind me! Talk about sticking your foot in your mouth.

I'm worried about Semele now. Do you think prayer might help?

1 Corinthians 15:19
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

Bob a God that claims salvation to be by grace and grace alone cannot then be proven or disproven by human logic otherwise faith would be attainable by logic rather than grace.

It is Satan himself who gives Kingdoms to the basist of men.

Wake up Joshua, America is GREAT BABYLON!

Joshua,

What a bunch of crap.

America the capitalistic country that backs the fascist state of Israel is in no wise the treasure of God's heart.

You need to take something to wake up and then perhaps you can see past your agenda.

The Grain of Wheat is Growing in its death

Just as you have seen in the heart of the people of God a great and mighty move of the Spirit I tell you that you don't have to wait for decades. For I am sending you a mighty move of new ministers and a mighty man that will raise up and fill in the spot of the greats like Billy Graham. I tell you that not long after the passing of his wife will I assist him into the gates of heaven and there will be a flooding of revival that will come to you with many new young evangelists. I am telling you this now that many have said in their hearts, "We will mourn as we did when pope John Paul died" But I tell you, "May the light grow ever so strongly upon his family." I have told you that there will be a sign of not only him, but of Oral Roberts next, and when this happens even more of My Spirit will flow down from heaven to you America. This is My promise, I have said, "Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies it will not produce offspring. I tell you they will grow 100 fold from all the seeds that were stored in its place, and I tell you because these men were so close to Me that I am telling you that all of their seeds are going to fall on good soil and will be gathered by great men and women for the ministry of evangelism.

I want you to know this day, "Tithe to the missionary, give to them so that you can also be blessed." Do not say in your heart, "It's not about the blessing." For don't you remember the beatitudes? I want to bless you and I want you to bless and give to others so that you can receive blessings here on earth as they are in heaven.

Did you know that I am not finished with the political games that are taking place in America? Did you not know that I am going to reveal something to you in the end of this year that My servant will have his spiritual discernment on target? For this is the prequel to nothing. But those of you who have prayed will see in the White House a spiritual leader who will be embraced by Me. I tell you that there is trickery in every corner, there is money scams and files of paperwork that are send to soothsayers to tell them what to say where and what to do here. I tell you now, that those who seek the counsel of godly people will grow in their success. Do not give up heart America, for I have plans for you even when other nations plot and plan things against you. You are a treasure in My heart. And with your wealth you will overcome great obstacles in time as you save and give. For if you do not give America your wealth will be given over to the next world power and they will be My instrument for your correction. Be ready for in these days because prosperity reigns in 2007. And in 2008 I will awaken your eyes and you will see the candidate that will have My spirit. And in the oval office I will comminicate My ways and My will regarding the things I have concerning you America.

Can bloggers ever stick to the thesis of the article they are critiquing? How can one analyze your commentary when it rarely has anything to do with subject of debate. Everyone is just racing to inject their scattered agendas. Snore.

"If questioning exposes truth, let us question."

OK, let's start with this. Prove the existence of the god you believe in.

If you can't, the "truth" is that your faith is completely irrational.

Therefore, ask the next question which might lead you to the "truth". Why do you believe in the irrational?

Thank you!

Bob

People sure can be arrogant can't they, no matter what they believe in, because don't try to kid yourselves, we all believe in something. Sometimes your belief will be rewarded while you are still a breather, I have met God, who is a Trinity of One and He sure is a lot nicer than you would ever think that He is capable of being by reading almost anything on any of these sites. Some of the people that do not believe in God have a much closer idea of God than a lot of the so-called believers. One day, the seventh day, all will be glad that God came up with a Plan for all of His children to be with Him and a lot of these people that call themselves christians will finally realize what being a christian was supposed to be. If God wanted us to be parrots, He would have made us parrots; if God wanted us to be puppets, He would have made us puppets, an honest doubt God prefers. God is Pure Love. When Jesus said, "I have not come to bring unity but division" and "I have come to bring Fire to the Earth", He was talking about the all-consumming Fire of Pure Love which is God. That Pure Love will burn all the crud away. Pretty nice place God made, but if you are honest at all the place is a mess, we sure don't seem to treat one another very well. I'm just a messenger, only God knows all the details and He is a searcher of hearts and minds, not religious affiliations or lack thereof. Take care. Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Well and truly stated Mr. Rodriguez.

Hello Brian:
Speaking for myself, probably most of the Secularists, and Skeptics, we do not hate or lump all of you, be it be christians, or jews, or muslims, or hindhus. We however, lump all your superstitions into one and ridicule them just the same way you ridicule the superstitions of the animists of africa or the superstitions of the pre-columbians of americas, or the Oracles from mount Olympu, etc etc. Why in the world do you all think we should respect your superstitions and tread gingerly when you (i dont mean you specifically)guys take the condescending views about how non-belivers are destined to hell, etc, etc.

Hello Brian:
Speaking for myself, probably most of the Secularists, and Skeptics, we do not hate or lump all of you, be it be christians, or jews, or muslims, or hindhus. We however, lump all your superstitions into one and ridicule them just the same way you ridicule the superstitions of the animists of africa or the superstitions of the pre-columbians of americas, or the Oracles from mount Olympu, etc etc. Why in the world do you all think we should respect your superstitions and tread gingerly when you (i dont mean you specifically)guys take the condescending views about how non-belivers are destined to hell, etc, etc.

Hello Brian:
Speaking for myself, probably most of the Secularists, and Skeptics, we do not hate or lump all of you, be it be christians, or jews, or muslims, or hindhus. We however, lump all your superstitions into one and ridicule them just the same way you ridicule the superstitions of the animists of africa or the superstitions of the pre-columbians of americas, or the Oracles from mount Olympu, etc etc. Why in the world do you all think we should respect your superstitions and tread gingerly when you (i dont mean you specifically)guys take the condescending views about how non-belivers are destined to hell, etc, etc.

Here's a question. Did Moses sell his soul? Sale of soul brings the wealth of earth to the seller according to "The Devil and Daniel Webster." Is the Bible just another "sell your soul" tale? Is it a comedy or a tradjedy?

http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul is just one of the thousands of interpretations of sacred scriptures. Is it the correct one?

Almighty God gets what Almighty God wants by simply willing it, creation for an easy example. The creature in the fire Moses made the deal with used trickery, murder even to get what it wanted. And! It still doesn't have what it wanted, the Israelites to the land of the Cananites, (Syria), Hittites, (Turkey) and Amorites, (Iraq/Jordan). Is the "God of the father of Moses" a little lacking in horsepower to be Almighty God? Is that a legitimate question?

The Bible is the tragic story of some people who are still living in tragedy, assuming it's really about Jews. Are Jews, Hebrews and Israelites the same people? Why do they have more than one name?

For a Latino I wonder why Mr Rodriguez isn't petitioning the pope for the return of Aztec and Inca gold. He could at least remind his holiness of the bloodshed and misery the Conquistadors visited upon the region. The pope is always talking peace, must have all the gold he wants now. That's certainly a question with some teeth. That gold is still lurking about in churches where it was used to buy tickets to heaven.

Brian:
Why is it that people are always quick to point out ancient history when it comes to discussions about Christianity. In many ways, you lump all of us into the same boat as those who belonged to the Inquisition, as if we all had a hand in it. That would be the same as saying all atheists and agnostics are immoral anarchists who would like nothing more than to destroy the American way of life. Such a statement is false, because I know of atheists who live good lives, abide by the law, and try to raise healthy families. By making statements that are intended to polarize people, you create hostility, which prevents the inquiries that could lead or destroy people towards faith. I acknowledge that there are histories involving the Church in general which are very dark and shameful. This is also true of America, whose history is often blood-stained as well. But I'm proud to be an American and a Christian despite the blemishes on our records.
Besides, if there is a religion that identifies with people disregarding them for their inquiries, it would be Christians, who are martyred in many different countries around the world because they belive differently than those around them. More people have been beaten, raped, murdered, and tortured for the sake of Christ in the past century than all other centuries combined. Why is it that people accuse us of being the ones who are close-minded?
Lastly, I don't fear questions, because questions need answers. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I trust in the One who does. And I know He's not afraid of your questions either. Whoever seeks Him will find Him, if they seek with all their heart.

A few points:

a) Christianity IS a religious cult. Here's the definition:

"a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents"

b) The central question is not about whether a religious cult allows inquiry or not, it's whether unbiased, reasoned inquiries point to the fallaciousness of said cult.

Christianity is a cult, and unbiased, reasoned inquiries do expose the fallaciousness of the cult.

I agree with Brian- and this is a question we should ask ourselves- how come every person who questions the Bible is treated as a non-believer..faith should not be blind or due to a fear that is instilled that if you don't believe blindly you will not be saved- faith should be complete- and it can only be complete if one questions it and through that trial- comes up with answers that satisfies the soul and thus reinforces the belief..unfortunately what we are seeing is limited questioning of passages in the Bible and even limited interest in what is out there in the world besides the Bible- as a method to reinforce or renounce one's faith

Hi Samuel (if I may),

Thanks for your spot on remarks on the subject. We are in the middle of the same sort of discussion (but from the angle of theodicy) and I find the entire subject quite worthy of full development.

You are right in that the Bible is full of questions of God. Job jumps to mind, of course, but even Ecclesiastes (Qoheleth) in his own way raises very important questions.

Anyway, thanks again for a thoughtful response to the question.

Mr. Rodriguez, it's great that you believe that religion should welcome inquiry. I'll even let you get away with pretending to know the mind of God by stating that he is not afraid of our inquiries. My question is how do you reconcile your statements with the fact that the religion you choose to identify yourself with has a long and well-documented history of stamping out any and all dissension using any means up to and including murder?

James 4:2
Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.