A post-Muslim Europe?

No, Halozcel: I don't think churchbells (which are in fact often loudspeakers, rather than real bells) are so different from Muslim calls to prayer. They basically serve the same function, apart from the use in timekeeping. Though I'd be fine with setting a decibel limit on any such sounds, as measured from the nearest residence, say.

(A churchbell far away is charming. One across the street and outside your window? It gets annoying. And it *is* in fact often a challenge and marking of territory. I think my attitude would be, if a dude wants to actually climb that tower and sing, then, OK. No one said he had to have a sound system.

Often, in America, thinkgs like zoning and noise and parking ordinances and sthings more trivial are selectively-enforced, as a way of getting at minority groups some really just don't like.

The Swiss vote wasn't even camouflaged under such notions, though, ...it was just right-wing fearmongering.

Therefore, I think if I was Swiss, I'd have voted against the measure even if one of those mosques was out my bedroom window, though.

P.T.

Minaret is Completely different from Steeple.
Call to Prayer in Arabic is Absolutely different from Church Bell.
Church Bell rings Dang,Deeng,Dong and it doesnt mean anything.
Arabic Call to Prayer(it should be in English in USA,French in France,Turkish in Turkey,Urdu in Pakistan,Spanish in Mexico,Persian in Iran,German in Germany) is a Political Message.
Arabic Call to Prayer is Aggresive and Challenge.And,all Loudspeakers have to be removed from Minarets.Loudspeakers are being used since 30-40 years.What were Muslims doing before 30-40 years ago ?
If it is a Reminder for Prayer,it should be called in local languages,shouldnt it ?
Arabic Reminder in Cincinnati ? Is it Reasonable ?
Good Luck,Let Allah help you.

Dear Samuel Rodriguez,
Puerto Rican Pastor.

100 percent Freedom of Religion/Cult/Islam is not possible.
Son of God strongly prohibited Divorce(except Adultery),but,
Is Divorce legalized or banned in Puerto Rico and USA ?
Will they emancipate *taking four women* ?
Besides,Minaret,Burqa,Arabic Call to Prayer by Loudspeakers in High Volume,Timothy 2.12,Timothy 6.1 are not Basic Human Rights.
100% Freedom of Religion/Cult is not possible.Indisputable.

If the Swiss had a ban on steeples, stupas and pagodas, your argument might hold weight. I don't think they do, nor would they ever consider to have one.

"Some of these immigrants espouse a religious ideology viewed by many as counter to the spirit of liberalism and tolerance. Of course, these fears stem from experiences with the extreme elements of the community."
--So what is so wrong with saying in effect "Some of your religious brethren say and do things that run counter to the prevailing culture here. And for this reason, your immigration rights and privileges will remain under scrutiny and restriction until these others demonstrate they are prepared to play nice with others."
It's proven true in the UK. Muslims, once they gained the needed numbers, began to throw their weight around. The Swiss are right to be suspicious.

Doesn't the existence of landeskirchen in specific cantons - church communities, supported by taxes on adherents collected by the local government, recognized as official churches - suggest that the Swiss community is not so secular as you might wish us to believe?

The home of Calvin and Beza does not seem to have gone over entirely to the congregations served by the priests of unbelief and the deacons of skepticism.