Tiller's Muder an Act of Terror Against Women

Thank you, Starhawk, for this insightful post. You are truly an inspiration and champion to women around this country who are wondering just where their rights as women - as sacred women - are headed.

You put it most succinctly when you said, "The murder of Dr. Tiller was an act of terror. Although its immediate victim was a man, it was aimed at women's hearts and minds, designed to shatter our oneness and assert control."

Because that's what this is about: the subjugation and enslavement of women to a dogma that has overstayed its welcome and seeks to objectify women and make them nothing more than submissive sex slaves and incubators.

This is not about the children, nor has it ever been. If it were, those who oppose women's reproductive rights would be slaving away, breaking their backs to drag the gutters for all of the impoverished children living in abject, festering poverty the world over.

No, this is an act meant to enslave women to their circumstances, no matter how horrific, and to break - completely - their souls and spirits. And I thank you for making that point, in your usual, eloquent manner.

Goddess Bless!

Sister Starhawk, I admire your ability to marry New Age idealism with downhome Paganism. I like many others have had the privelege of knowing you on a somewhat more personal level in the Circle. I am Pagan, but not Wiccan, I am male and embrace our Mother. I am a social scientist with an historical bent, as archaeologist, who believes I need to accept my full European ancestry, which includes in all likelyhood both the burners and the burned. I do not accept that it dishonors women, is murder to destroy living cells of human origin. Tissue does not constitute a 'human being'. For me 'humaness' begins with the 'pneuma', the first breath, when independent learning, culture and conscious Self, begins. It is a thing that many Pagans, Christians, and other trads have widely agreed on. Dr. T. was a man of great courage willing to quietly go to a place of great pain to save the
QUALITY of womens' and childrens' lives by refusing unwanted reproduction for it's own sake. You seem sometimes to be in denial of the honorability of the male in glorifying the female. There are certainly many damaged, self-serving men out there, but not all in any generation. Stereotyping dishonors the choices and loves of your Female ancestry, your fathers,and your current brothers. My wife, several times over a scorpio, and more Wiccan than I, was of the opinion that no real pagan believes in a Devil, that only Christians do that. She was right with a small qualification. Satanic worship screws people up, groups like the Baptists should stop it...but they are not real followers of Jesus. Tillerman, the brave surgeon and quiet Luthern usher was. I am not a 'Christian' in all historical likelihood neither was Jesus. His early followers practiced communal living, abortion, and ritual use of mind altering Sacraments for centuries before there was a 'Church' or 'Bible' in any of the modern senses. We do not fight lies with and persecution with counter stereotypes. I defy you with words that probably did come from the man from Galilee, as truly as most of the 'Biblical' priesthood-oriented people controling, nature dominating passages did not...many disagree with me but in honoring the heritage of love that made me by all the hearts and lives that were lived to create it. I can not say that "Love thy neighbor as thy self" means anything different than
"Do what thou wilt...and it harm NONE."
Blessed Be, outspoken Sister, Blessed Be.
Darrel Armstrong
Missoula

And PLEASE don't quote the bible in any rational discussion - it makes you look like an idiot.

I hope that the psychopath who killed Tiller is beaten to death in prison.

You jesus freaks really scare me.

TILLER A MURDER IS MURDERED BY ANOTHER MURDER. EVIL BEGETS EVIL.

Indeed Tiller’s murder was an act of terror but not on just women as the feminist pretend, or on just America, but on all mankind. Nor was Tiller murdered by an extreme Christian as is contended by others.

There are no Extreme Christians. You’re either a Christian or your not. Christians do not believe in murder; they believe in the Fifth Commandment that the Court banned from the Public Square and Public Schools because it might contaminate little minds. Maybe if it had contaminated a few young minds, this tragedy wouldn’t have happened nor would George Tiller have happened.

Only those who call themselves Christians in name approve of murder, murder of the unborn. Hence, in the Senate, Kennedy, Leahy, Durbin, Kerry, and all the dissonant Catholics in government like Pelosi are dead, viz. Catholics in name only.

One murder murdered another. Violence begets violence. Truth sets one free. Tiller was a doctor; he knew that the unborn was a human person, yet, he murdered sixty thousand unborn children.

The Natural Moral Law (NML) is ubiquitous; it rains on all human nature. It does not discriminate, nor compromise. Man may choose to rebuke it, but he cannot choose the consequences that ensue. Those consequences fall on all, the unbeliever and the believer. Unfortunately, the non-believer infects all society.

Mt 4:4 “It is written, ‘Not in bread alone doth man live, but in every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God.”

The murderer of Dr. Tiller was no better than the one he murdered. Neither believed the NML; neither believed its precepts. Hence evil begot evil.
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America’s troubles began when our Medical institutes abandoned the Hippocratic Oath. Consequently, evil pursued evil. The Court wrote its own Natural Law and redefined human nature in “Roe v. Wade”

February 1997 - National Prayer Breakfast in Washington attended by the President and the First Lady. "What is taking place in America," she said, "is a war against the child. And if we accept that the mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another.

Any country that accepts abortion, is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what it wants. It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."—Mother Theresa

Both murderers, Tiller and his assassin, used violence to get what it wanted.

IN REPLY TO (IRT)
STARHAWK
THE MURDER OF DR. TILLER THE MURDERER”
“WHO IS THE UNBORN CONTINUED”

IRT:
“The murder of Dr. Tiller was an act of terror against woman.”

ANS:
To the contrary, the Murder of George Tiller was an act of Murder upon a Murderer and an act of violence against all mankind. The violence Tiller visited upon women was the 60,000 murders Tiller preformed on women by murdering their unborn children.

The women who flagitiously paid a murderer to have their unborn children murdered reciprocated Tiller’s violence with their own violence upon their unborn. Tiller’s murders were reciprocated by the murder of Tiller. Hence, violence begets violence.

Evil begets Evil. The Sexual Revolution begets Abortion. Abortion begets Embryonic Stem Cell Research upon unborn children. Subsequently, there ensues the malevolent Culture of Death.

Homosexuality, encapsulated in the Sexual Revolution, fermented pedophilia, pederasty, AIDS, STDs, and eventually the Drug Culture and Suicide.

It is unmitigated hypocrisy to support these cultural abominations and then to lament the murder of Tiller. Those who advocate such nefarious immorality have inevitably wrought such tragedy upon themselves. Abortionists had unwittingly created this reckless profligate of evil and they share in the consequences their evil has wrought.

There is a Natural Moral Law (NML); though many don’t believe it. Tiller, the child murderer didn’t believe in it; Tiller’s murderer didn’t either. They paid the consequence. Their God was the world, itself, and the world has devoured them both.

Unfortunately, when evil triumphs, the innocent suffer too. Those innocent that suffered here were the 60,000 unborn children murdered by Tiller.

The smallest act of immorality echoes throughout humanity like a pebble dropped into the center of a silent pond. Its ripples travel to all the edges that contain the pond. Likewise, evil travels to the boundaries of all mankind, and as well, all humanity is defiled.

The Natural Moral Laws are the universal objective Commandments for human behavior. The sooner man lives within them, the less violence will ensue, and that is a historical fact. These tragic consequences are unequivocally illustrated in the violence visited upon the people of China, the Middle East, and the people of North Korea, Sudan, and the Congo wrought by the violence of their leaders.

If Dr. Tiller's murderer had been affiliated with any social justice group or non-violent activism, then every household and office affiliated with that organization would have been raided by police in less than 24 hours. And because Tiller was shot in a church (a sanctuary!!!!), the police raids would have been especially brutal.

But instead, Tiller was killed by an extremist Christian affiliated with right wing anti-government groups so he'll just be treated like a lone-gun man, who just, shucks, went too far. He won't be considered as part of a movement, a violent extremist movement, that ought to be investigated or indicted.

Anyone who wants there to radically decrease the number of abortions in this country (whether you consider them to be murder or not) needs to do only one thing: promote universal access to shame-free sex education to all children, and distribute free condoms to everyone old enough to procreate. Abstinence education has been repeatedly proven to fail in achieving this basic goal that we all share.

Finally if anyone - regardless of your religious and political views - is mature enough to read something that might shift your perspective, check out Ginette Paris' The Sacrament of Abortion.

IN REPLY TO (IRT)
STARHAWK
THE MURDER OF DR. TILLER THE MURDERER”
“WHO IS THE UNBORN CONTINUED”

ONE EVIL BEGETS ANOTHER EVIL!

"Any country that accepts abortion, is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what it wants. It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.—Mother Theresa"

Dr. LANDRUM SHETTLES sometimes called the "FATHER OF IN VITRO FERTILIZATION":

"Conception confers life and makes that life one of a kind." And on the Supreme Court ruling Roe v. Wade_, "To deny a truth [about when life begins] should not be made a basis for legalizing abortion."

DR. HYMIE GORDON, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic: "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception."

DR. MCCARTHY DE MERE, medical doctor and law professor, University of Tennessee:

"The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception."

DR. ALFRED BONGIOVANNI, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine:

"I am no more prepared to say that these early stages represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty ... is not a human being."

DR. RICHARD V. JAYNES:
"To say that the beginning of human life cannot be determined scientifically is utterly ridiculous."

PROFESSOR EUGENE DIAMOND:
"...either the justices were fed backwoods biology or they were pretending ignorance about a scientific certainty."

Statement by PAUL E. ROCKWELL, M.D.:

"Eleven years ago while giving an anesthetic for a ruptured entopic pregnancy (at 8 weeks gestation), I was handed what I believe was the smallest living human ever seen. The embryonic sac was intact and transparent. Within the sac was a tiny human male swimming extremely vigorously in the amniotic fluid, while attached to the wall by the umbilical cord. This tiny human was perfectly developed, with long, tapering fingers, feet, and toes. It was almost transparent, as regards the skin, and the delicate arteries and veins were prominent to the ends of the fingers."

"The baby was extremely alive and swam about the sac approximately one time per second, with a natural swimmer's stroke…. When the sac was opened, the tiny human immediately lost his life and took on the appearance of what is accepted as the appearance of an embryo at

IN REPLY TO (IRT)
STARHAWK
THE MURDER OF DR. TILLER THE MURDERER”
WHO IS THE UNBORN

EVIL BEGETS EVIL:

Doctor Tiller murdered over 60,000 unborn children.

“Dr. Jerome Lejeune, known as "The Father of Modern Genetics," also testified that human life begins at conception before the Louisiana Legislature's House Committee on the Administration of Criminal Justice on June 7, 1990.

Dr. Lejeune explained that within three to seven days after fertilization we can determine if the new human being is a boy or a girl. "At no time," Dr. Lejeune said, "is the human being a blob of protoplasm.

As far as your nature is concerned, I see no difference between the early person that you were at conception and the late person which you are now. You were, and are, a human being."

Dr. Lejeune also pointed out that each human being is unique -- different from the mother -- from the moment of conception.

He said, "Recent discoveries by Dr. Alec Jeffreys of England demonstrate that this information [on the DNA molecule] is stored by a system of bar codes not unlike those found on products at the supermarket...it's not any longer a theory that each of us is unique."

Dr. Jerome Lejeune died on April 3, 1994. Dr. Lejeune of Paris, France was a medical doctor, a Doctor of Science and a professor of Fundamental Genetics for over twenty years.

Dr. Lejeune discovered the genetic cause of Down Syndrome, receiving the Kennedy Prize for the discovery and, in addition, received the Memorial Allen Award Medal, the world's highest award for work in the field of Genetics.

He practiced his profession at the Hôpital des Enfants Malades (Sick Children's Hospital) in Paris.

Dr. Lejeune was a member of
The American Academy of the Arts and Science,
A member of the Royal Society of Medicine in London,
The Royal Society of Science in Stockholm,
The Science Academy in Italy
The Society of Science in Argentina,
The Pontifical Academy of Science, and
The Academy of Medicine in France.

IN REPLY TO (IRT)
STARHAWK
THE MURDER OF DR. TILLER THE MURDERER”

MOTHER THERESA A WOMAN:

A word to the Tiller’s of the world:

“By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And by abortion, the father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world.” More so the Court has dissolved man’s paternal rights to his child, an abomination.

“The unchaste father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So, abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion. "

"Please don't kill the child. I want the child. Please give me the child. I am willing to accept any child who would be aborted, and to give that child to a married couple who will love the child, and be loved by the child. From our children's home in Calcutta alone, we have saved over 3,000 children from abortions. These children have brought such love and joy to their adopting parents, and have grown up so full of love and joy!"—Mother Theresa

"""A strong, revitalized feminist movement will be our real protection from the agents of terror, and our true hope for the generations to come."""

oh what a wonderful statement, how true it is.

Thank you for this post, it is helping me find clarity in a torrent of emotional responses to dr tillers murder.

Yes, it is indeed terrorism. Women who were working in clinics in the mid 80s were using the word to describe what was happening all around us then, so it's not just a 2009 reaction to having had the word terrorism thrown around so often lately.

In the last few years the words war-on-terrorism has made me sadder and sadder each time I hear them. But today ? They just piss me off !

I doubt I will read or hear a more lucid editorial on the murder of Dr. Tiller. You have accurately portrayed the act, the intent and the culprits involved. Thank you.