Marriage: Yes it's on the rocks, and good riddance

According to the Alternatives to Reality Project you are not losing shareholder value, you are gaining an education. You are about to hit the rocks Post. Good dance and rid of all problems if it rings true. If not, that's the way it goes. Either way, we're counting on you. Buy diamonds I guess for hitting rocks. Buy lots, whatever you want. It's fine!

Hollywood yes it's on the rocks, and great riddance. We wrecked the place. Don't wreck your marriage and children. Depression increases reality, so going bust has lots of benefits. Propaganda has few and they are questionable. Have bourbon on the rocks and keep liquidation moving along. We'll script Madoff movie in NYC.

Oh this relentless ugliness. Islam is not as great a threat to women as this.

Marriage will never be obsolete for people who seek a spiritual bond with their spouse for the purpose of sharing their lves and bringing up children. It is no surprise that partners who want to share raising a child have a different attitude toward each other than partners who simply want to share an orgasm.
Posted by: paulc2 |
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When my husband and I got married, I had already raised a child, for the most part as a single parent.
He and I can't make babies - he's sterile, I'm menopausal.
Furthermore, I wouldn't want to start over with 2 am feedings and washing diapers at my age, and he has never had any desire to be a parent.
While we certainly enjoy sharing orgasms, that's not why we married - we were doing that long before he proposed. We got married because felt a spiritual bond with each other and wanted to share our recognition of it with our friends, our family members, and our gods.

I wonder why traditional marriage isn't a realistic prospect now? Is it because we encourage separation and divorce? Is it because family, friends and neighbors refuse to support couples in trouble? Is it because couples hold back in fear in their own relationships?

Despite changes in the world, little has changed in the market of relationships. The perspective you present: why settle is not at the basis of relationships. Such a pessimistic, narcissistic perspective is not present when one seeks a marriage partner. Such decisions are largely positive, optimistic and where the self-denying becomes self-fulfilling.

The narcissistic perspective you present suggests a view of the inequality of relationships. It becomes a relationship of mutual abuse accepted either consensually or by coercion. When one partner sees themselves on the negative side of this unequal relationship, or sees greater influence in an even more unequal relationship with another, then the partner leaves.

I think what you'll generally find in troubled relationships is not this type of power seeking, but less affirmation of their union. When a partner(s) have introduced mishandled stress or fantasies into their relationships they struggle to see and experience the unity of the relationship. They fail to affirm or reconcile their past feelings, or past fantasies, of the relationship. We as a society contribute by encouraging fear and doubt into their relationships. We also fail to affirm the relationship or chances for hope and reconciliation.

Lacking affirmation of their relationship the partners seek to end the union and find it elsewhere whether with a different spouse or with the bottle. Humankind is unlike most animals, we can not live with power, but we must seek peace.

Marriage will never be obsolete for people who seek a spiritual bond with their spouse for the purpose of sharing their lves and bringing up children. It is no surprise that partners who want to share raising a child have a different attitude toward each other than partners who simply want to share an orgasm.

Sounds good to me. The hard part is convincing my wife. But I think she's safe, older age becomes a factor in this.

The only purpose of marriage besides giving priests some easy money and a chance to get their swindle going; was to have kids and licensed sex! Well, for sure marriage is no longer a filitation of sex; if anything it is an impediment! And that last thing the world needs is more kids; and I think the whole notice of priests is pretty dead! Evangelical yellers, fornicators, entertainers, and racketeers; yeah baby bring em on!

Wow!

Well, no romance here.

I do agree, though, that we need to get clear what belongs in the civil world of marriage and what belongs in the religious world of marriage. And, there is a difference.

The civil world has a lot of benefits - what is it, 1000 points in the law - that are for those who marry. And, civil law needs to look at civil harm and benefits in recognizing civil unions, not whether a faith calls the civil union a "sin."

Under the law, I would much prefer we get rid of the word "marriage" and save that word for the religious world's blessing or ceremony. Because, yes, I do see a value there.

Religious people are so concerned about the decline of marriage in America and yet they remain the chief obstacle in allowing more than 10% of the nation to marry.

Marriage is a commitment between consenting adults. As far as I am concerned, that is it. Some people choose to have a marriage ceremony in a religious manner while others do not. My wife and I had our wedding in an Irish Pub. For some reason, the government feels the need to endorse marriages and for some even stronger reason, many churches also have that same need. It seems that religion often mistakenly believes that they hold the monopoly on the marriage.

You can read the rest of my response to this topic:
http://exm.nr/eTSglm

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"Traditional marriage with its assumption of a lifetime bond between two individuals is too inflexible to serve modern Americans."

How nice. Those who it does serve well are not "modern".

When I announced my engagement I wondered why so many people expressed sorrow rather than joy for me.

It took me less than five years to find out. There's nothing like your spouse announcing they have found their "soulmate," and it's not you. Said soulmate also was married, but what did that matter to either of them?

Those who expressed their sorrow had likewise been burned and didn't want me to suffer the same fate. And likewise, I have since felt sad rather than happy whenever anyone I care about announces an engagement.

I came to believing the hard way that marriage is nothing more than legalized living together and has no value whatsover.

The sooner others lose their idealized view of it as I once did the better.

1 grandmother: 2 marriages 1 divorce
1 grandmother: 1 marriage (ended when grandma killed grandpa)
mother: 2 marriages, 2 divorces
1 sister: 1 marriage ended in divorce
1 sister: 2 marriages 1 divorce
bother: 3 marriages 3 divorces
father: 2 marriages 1 divorce
stepfather: 2 marriages 1 divorce
me: after viewing all that, no marriages, no children

We need the Federal Government to end its discrimination against gays who are in committed relationships.

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