Praying for Liberals

Maybe they should also sprinkle them with "jebus water" and wave a chicken bone over their heads for good measure.

They ought all to try Beth Moore's "Praying God's Word" so they can pray for those "against them" same as they would for a friend of family member.

It is doubtless a combination of both compassion and condescension, perhaps with heavy weight on the latter ingredient of the equation. Depends on the mind and heart praying. One of the more positive outcomes of prayerfullness is that it can lead the prayer into a more balanced and compassionate state, from what may have been a more attached and imbalanced state. One can hope that by embarking on a "prayer project" to get liberals to "see the light" that it could have that effect on the judgmental and disdainful perspectives of some of the "believing" conservatives.

It certainly appears as though many liberals would be perfectly OK with praying to Obama. How's that working our forya?

I think these folks need to tend to the plank in their own eye...... But I guess that's just Pharisees praying for Sudducees..... Don't you just love Political Faith?

It's more than condescension, it is outright lying motivated by animus: lying that Obama is for one world government, lying that Obama supports killing infants worldwide, lying that Obama is a socialist and is promoting socialism; and more. The dangerous nature of the people who participate in such propaganda is evident when you note that they do not even acknowledge people in the U.S. have many different opinions as to when a fetus becomes a person, when abortion should or should not be legal, etc. This is nothing less than fascist bullying by a mob that would, if they could, stage a revolution or coup and install a theocratic government similar to Iran's, but based on their version of Christianity. These people are the real radicals who do not believe in the Bill of Rights and the separation of religion and the state. We're in big trouble if they gain any more power in government.

The absolute hypocrisy of a Godless neo-conservative praying for a liberal leaves me stunned. Neo-conservatives are the most cold-hearted people created by God. These self made egotist led by the likes of Limbaugh, O’Reily, Hannity and Beck beg the government to turn its back on the poor. They become indignant when taxes are mentioned. These people demand that guns proliferate our streets ignoring the mounting death rate caused by these weapons. The pagans should read Enoch. The lord refused you an audience. How dare you pray for liberals when your own prayers go unanswered? Neo-conservatives forget praying for liberals and pray where prayer is really needed, for you.

What makes them think that their prayers are wanted or that anyone cares what they think? Such arrogance needs to be rebutted. Thanks Jerry and org, nobody gives a hoot about your org/church and your God. I have my own God and he tells me you are a money hungry, power hungry lunatic. I think he is correct.

JESUS THE REPUBLICAN : "MEN shall have domination over the Womb, for it is They who know the Womb the bestest." "Yield not Aid nor Compassion to the Weak & Destitute, for they are Irrelevant." "Gather ye false Pimp-Suits while ye may and don the Garb of the Lord" "Feed not the little Schoolkids, for they are the Enemy of God." "Give thy money unto Piggie-Bankers, for they shall make you feel rich." "Enslave thy workers, or get ye a Communist slave if it's still too expensive for thy taste." I think I heard that somewhere. In the Bible, right ? He invited the money-lenders into the Temple for a big barbecue or something. Isn't that when He said : "Bring all thy Moolah up to Heaven and ye shall have the Eternity ye deserve. Thy 'Free' market awaits you. I Promise - here is your free Eye of the Needle ticket. Leave the camel." [ Maybe I've got it wrong - I dunno. ] And Jesus spoke again on a different occasion - like a huge 10,000 man Protest march : "Render NOT unto Caesar anything at all, for Government is the Enemy of God." "Kill the Moslems - (hey I'm Jesus - in 700 years you'll thank me.)" He continued: "Accumulate many many Guns (when they are invented). Meanwhile accumulate Arrows & Swords. Weapons are the Tools of the Lord and don't forget it. Just give me a reason, Punk." also : "Declareth thy country to be God's Chosen country, for God really loves that." and : "Thou shalt lick Saudi butt. NOT just Kiss, but really Lick. Drive thy SUV to the Max and leave it running through the Godless Night. " Thusly did Jesus spake. No ?? PS - oh I forgot - Jesus also said "Sell thy Lands to Communist China, for They are Those to whom you should sell thy Lands. No one Worships the Lord like a Commie." [ Republicans are disqualified from power - so sayeth Me. ] :-o ==========================================

Or we could just abolish both political parties and have everyone stand for what they personally believe instead of what some corrupted old men/women believe. Then we can go back to praying for the country instead of a political party.

Based upon his teachings and his actions, Jesus was a socialist. Ironic.

"It certainly appears as though many liberals would be perfectly OK with praying to Obama. How's that working our forya?" Oh yeah! Totally, man! I just finished my morning prayers where I was on a rug and facing east towards Obama. You should SEE the Democratic convention's new mosque! It is like being at Mecca! Get a life, wingnut.

With some people praying for the death of the left wing, and some praying for the death of the right wing, what's the poor chicken to do? Obviously, the life of the chicken is at stake -- not to mention the eggs being all in one irrational basket. What would Jesus say? "Where have I heard all this before?" or "When will they ever learn?"

I suppose it's possible that if this liberty council can attract enough "cristocrats" to pray for liberals, it could mean they stop preying on the disenfranchised and the poor. That would certainly improve the civil life of all of us.

Until Christ returns I'll stick with that Damned liberal Obama

That's nice- because as a Christian liberal, I pray for the souls of the neocons too! They need all the prayers they can get.

To say that it's condescending is being kind. But, then again, what would you expect from a group of people who have a smug yet completely unjustified belief in their own superiority? I mean, they claim to speak for God. How arrogant and presumptuous can you possibly get?

This is profoundly moronic. It reminds me of Christians praying that Jews will accept Christ. I myself often hope the Christians will get over him, move on, stop warring on people, starving them, exploiting them, stealing their oil. Just get a life. Jesus, if he lived, had one. MOve on. Get on the train and begone.

Dear Christian/Catholic Neocons: Kindly take your not-so-new con out of the public domain. We've been conned before, and by better con men.

No thank you...you scum bag con artist! Stay hold in church where you can plot how to cheat and deceive humanity and cospire with other thugs, goons and criminals that you consort with.

This is pretty arrogant and self-righteous of them. They need to pray for their own souls. Are they not familiar with Matthew 7:3 (New International Version), “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?”

Now that's what I call neocondescencion. Didn't Jerry Falwell once sell a videotape that accused Bill Clinton of murder? I pray for Liberty University -- that it collapses under the weight of its own hypocrisy.

The issue here is not condescension or the efficacy of prayer, it is about the level of hysterical self-deception the conservatives are indulging as they refuse to deal with their loss of power and their loss of status within the society from their misconduct during the Bush years. By tearing down the wall between fact and fantasy, which much of this over-the-top name-calling and labelling of Obama clearly indicates, they set up a dangerous lack of grounding which can only endanger the whole society. At some point people who are grounded enough not to let their religious sentiments dim their sense of reality need to put their foot down and say "enough" to the lunacy. The fanatics must be chastised, criticised, embarassed, and marginalized in every possible way so that the general public gets it about the unacceptability of their views and can move on from them to a state of normality...

fr the article: >...The Liberty Council isn't quite so direct, but it's not hiding its disdain for Obama. The prayer initiative includes "reasons why they qualify for the program." "President Obama has assembled what is arguably the most radically liberal administration in American history. His policy initiatives have favored socialism, the homosexual agenda, and the funding of infant genocide around the world. He has denied America's Christian heritage but has openly praised Islam for its contributions to America and the world. He calls himself a 'citizen of the world,' a term that reflects his support of a 'one world government.... This is from the same nutball "college" that jerry failwell started, and said that during the High Holy Days of the Jewish calendar that he wanted his cult followers to "witness" to all Jewish people to "convert" them to Christianity (preferably failwell's). When he was confronted on that, of course he backpedaled and sputtered that he was "taken out of context". He wasn't.

Dear Christian/Catholic NeoCons: Attention all Con Artists: I Jewishly pray that someone will teach you the meaning of these Judaic words: Proverbs 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

I find this amusing. During the previous administration, an evangeligal co-worker of mine would answer any of my frequent tirades against Bush, telling me I should "pray for the president". I would answer, "But I do. I pray the words of the 109th Psalm, 'Let another take his office'."

just one more example of the absurdity of organized religion, all of which constantly wreak havoc throughout the world with their holier than thou gospel.

The Right never ceases to amaze me. Now it's a prayerfest in hopes that Obama shows more compassion towards the weak and powerless. Yet the Christians throw their collective weight behind the insurance industry stooges in the GOP who put profit over compassion and who are dismissive of those in need. Saw an article today in DailySource that said fewer Americans identify with a particular faith now. Is it any wonder when Christian leaders are such rank hypocrites?

If they believe in the power of prayer, they should pray for the safety of the President. They should pray that the rhetoric from the Right, including elected officials (such as saying the President is a threat to humanity)not just the mentally-challenged pundits (Obama is a racist)to former a newspaper editor writing for NewsMax who has dreams of a military coup to talk of civil war doesn't lead one of their followers to "save" the country by assassinating our President. More responsible people on the Right and in the media need to be speaking out against this incitement. But the Republicans only care about creating this percolating violence as a means to return to power. They're even stoking it. They don't care what it does to the country. It's all about the power.

Well, yes, wonderful, but, after 9/11, why didn't the Christian right just pray for Saddam Hussein or Talibans, also, instead of shaking their Bibles and screaming, "Kill, kill, kill!"?

Jesus was a Communist

Jesus would be appalled at the racist, hate-filled rhetoric emanating from so-called "Christians" in America these days. The only thing more dangerous than a demagogue is a demagogue who claims divine support for his intolerance.

Let's not forget why the Christian Right acts as it does: 1. They are on God's side and all others are not. 2. They know God's will and all others do not. 3. They will use the power of government to advance their understanding of God's kingdom. 4. Anyone who disagrees or opposes them is against God. 5. Those who are anti-God do not deserve respect, consideration or even politeness. 6. Any action is justified against the agents of Satan. All hail the Christian States of America.

Other than anecdotal testimonials that prayers are answered, there is no evidence that prayer works anyway. The Liberal Council might as well bay at the full moon, hoping that it will go away. Of course, it always comes back.

Pray to whom?? The Jewish/Christian/Islamic god?? That doesn't work as shown by ancient and modern history!!!!!

I prayed for the Washington Nationals to win the world series this year. Forget it, Liberty Council. It doesn't work.

For those who are stuck being "religious" and Authoritarian, it is those pesky Liberals who have brought pain and suffering and Loss of Liberty to what formerly was Their Country. For them, praying to God that He will set Liberals onto the Path of Righteousness, in the name of Jesus, is a message to Liberals that they object to nearly everything about Liberals, words and deeds. We could go down said list of words and deeds so as to sort out what, exactly, is so troublesome, but that would violate the religious freedom of Liberal's greatest detractors. I would guess one pointed issue of currency is Liberals wanting provide health care to every American, regardless of ability to pay, current-state-of-health and history is nothing more than a subversive attempt by Liberals to implement a program of genocide and to substitute a distinctly inferior set of health services for the somewhat less than exquisite suite of health services that we currently labor under. Burning bush? Pillar of salt? Liberals want to implement a program of genocide? Who needs praying for?

Dear Jerry Falwell, Please don't waste your time praying to my GOD.

Being born and raised in the south, Lynchburg VA in particular. I can't stop laughing. The Falwell family have been some of the most lawless, Racist, separatist people I have ever encountered. If they are the best GOD can do, I'll pass! Don't waste your prayers on me I want no part of organized Religion!

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2

On the other hand, maybe it's best to encourage this new strategy. This way they will consume their energy deceiving themselves that prayer will get rid of the liberals, and detract from their efforts to get control of the government and get rid of the liberals the way Adolf H. They probably have a better chance of succeeding with the second strategy, but if they think the first will work better, it's OK with me.

I truly feel sorry for the American right. Burdened with moron Christian NeoCon men, whatever of value they might have to contribute is lost. Why the right has allowed neanderthals to speak for them, I know not. Poor God. He's had a real hard time from the Christians, and now look.

I am not convinced that the Liberty Council is a Christian organization. I am of a Christian faith that has long supported equality and freedom. I am proud of my family's abolitionist past and for their military contributions that lead to the deaths of thousands of traitorous, godless southern souls. The American Civil War was a religious war -- one between God and the righteous and Satan and sin. God prevailed, but sin is still woefully apparent in many southern churches and certainly in the Liberty Council. Let us not forget that many in that council are members of churches that even recently have practiced the ritual religious human sacrifice called lynching -- replete with burning crosses and masked holy robes. Their church events have more in common with a Satanic Black Mass than anything resembling Christianity. The call to pray for "Liberal Enemies" is not a cry for peace, but another vile racist threat. Thinking people realize that the term "Liberal" in southern language is an evolved form of "N***** Lover", and this prayer vigil is nothing more than a call for a new round of southern violence and the degradation of the name of Jesus Christ. You cannot forgive a southern racist, because you cannot forgive the devil.

Jesus would be appalled at the racist, hate-filled rhetoric emanating from so-called "Christians" in America these days. The only thing more dangerous than a demagogue is a demagogue who claims divine support for his intolerance. - BPAI_99 I am a proud Christian and I could not agree with you more. The real danger from these "demagogues" is that the rules they cite and make are never for themselves. But do not worry. In the end, if they do not change their ways, they will hear "depart from me, I never knew you!" To BPAI_99 and others, Do not define Christianity by those politically connected religious conservatives. They do not represent God, no matter how much they rave and foam at the mouth. They are merely self-serving charlatans.

With some people praying for the death of the left wing, and some praying for the death of the right wing, what's the poor chicken to do? Obviously, the life of the chicken is at stake -- not to mention the eggs being all in one irrational basket. What would Jesus say? "Where have I heard all this before?" or "When will they ever learn?" Posted by: jeangerard1 This is very refreshing to read. I like it. Thanks.

Colonel Panic writes: I am not convinced that the Liberty Council is a Christian organization. --------------------- Well, gee, they're not a Jewish or Muslim or Hindu organization. And what of their numerous followers? Or those of Bush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh? All Christians, every one. You might as well say that the Pilgrims who settled at Plymouth Rock were not Christains or that those who founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony were not Puritans, i.e., Christians. They were Christians, were they not? Now, these, your fellow questions, distributed to the local native population blankets infected with small pox, and attributed their suffering to the Lord. They fenced in the Pequot Indians and set fire to them, quoting the Bible as they watched them burn to death, melt, scream. Both Governor Bradford's journal (Plymouth Plantation) and John Winthrop's journal are available for viewing on the web.

Someone misunderstood "'The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.' Ecclesiastes 10:2" When Ecclesiastes was written, neither the political "right" or "left" existed. In fact, those terms from from the French in modern times. The overweening arrogance of the extremist Christian minority in America is and has always been astonishing in its shallow, politically motivated theology. They use the Bible to justify rather than to instruct, resulting in teachings in the name of Christ that explicitly contradict the teachings of Christ. In the meantime the Republican Party continues to find these mislead folks easy to exploit in order to retain power and to advance policies that disadvantage them. The Republican Party serves one master and that master is not God.

The Christians are no minority in America.

God's a conservative? Whoa... When did that political conversion happen?

Please do not let these hypocrites pray for me. me and Jesus are praying for the hypocrites

God's a conservative? Whoa... When did that political conversion happen? -------- when hell froze over.

No wonder the Washington Post is going broke. They simply can't compete with The Onion

Republican game plan. Read New Testament. Do opposite. Announce Democrats are devil worshippers. ---------- Anti-abortion yet pro-death penalty and pro-war... doesn't make sense to me.

..."Call unto me, "And I will show thee Great and Mighty Things." --Jeremiah 12:12 ..."Prayer is powerful, Prayer is real, as these words are real, and I hope all that reads them will see, "God is real too... ..."Let your HOPE make you glad." "Be patient in Times of Trouble, "AND NEVER STOP PRAYING." --Romans 12:12 Sincerely, Tommy Birchfield Voter/Vet USAF, Graduate Student, Master's Program, Professional Studies, EAST TENNESSEE STATE UNIVERSITY/CLASS/2010

It's just a way of reinforcing the arrogant holier-than-thou belligerence that characterizes conservatives in general and evangelicals in particular. They display their enormous generosity by offering up my prayer for the benefit of those they deem inferior. I had a former boss tell me he was going to pray for me as he sent me packing too. Clearly he was doing that for his own benefit, not mine. I bet praying for a liberal gives them as much reassurance in their own humanity as pitying a handicap or announcing with pride that they have a black friend. Leading a life of moral depravity and heartless inhumanity to one's fellow man can take a toll on a person's psyche, particularly to those who fancy themselves morally superior. So I'm sure they can use all the guilt-redeeming chits they can muster for doing what passes for them as a good deed (and to the rest of us is seen as an act somewhere between goofy and worthless.)

The Liberty Council, a disgusting anti-liberty bunch of nitwits.

Well, if you religious-conservatives must pray I guess it won't hurt. Might keep you off the streets, out of town halls and not listening to Fox News. So please pray, it just might help you in the process. Oh, and when you have your next beer, have one for me too.

The majority in the USA believe in the Christian/Jewish/Islamic god first introduced supposedly by Abraham and yet modern historical studies have shown that said fellow never existed making prayer to said god a huge con game perpetuated by priests, ministers, rabbis and imams.

Romans 8 28

Just as I don't like government forcing anything down the public's throat, I don't appreciate anyone trying to force their religious beliefs down the public's throat.

I'm glad to see them exhibiting their concern for the moral standing of prominent liberals. We sure wouldn't want liberals to engage in behavior like infidelity, gambling, graft, sexual abuse of minors, or anything of the like.

Twenty-three years ago I appealed to a God I did not believe in, about a man disturbing my life and reasoning; then left Islam, a religion I could no longer accept. My story and then later rejecting so-called conservative Christianity, is for another time and discussion. However as my awakening continued, so came the awareness I had merely traded one religion for another. When I turned to my only Teacher on meaning of his speech, he instructed me: When I turned to Lord about his silence, I have yet to receive an answer. Maybe the Lord did answer and I have not accepted my decision of good conscience is keeping with commands of my Lord. If, I allow my faith in Lord Jesus to become a religion of do's and don't preached by men, then what purpose is there for faith without conscience; without good conscience how will voting with the conservative Christian block bring person closer to the Lord? I place my trust in the Lord, not in the party of God; if my vote offends the Lord Jesus (God forbid) then may He deal with me ever so severely. Nonetheless from their deeds and speech, I have seen the hearts of those identifying themselves as conservative Christian. I have the peace knowing my Lord will not find my heart wanting. The Liberty Counsel should pray for political Christianity, who forsake their first love for designs of men.

Jesus was a liberal. He cared about everybody.

Church is like politics but not in a democratic way. Liberty did ask the people how they feel about the Obama administration they told them how they should feel. Yes the bible says pray for our enemy and it say's that God will make your enemy your foot stool. What Liberty fail to realize is that there enemy is there government ties. There purse strings in high places. They should pray for a divorce with the government, if feel that there husband is now disloyal www.ShaunStardaa.com

If any of them actually followed the teachings of Christ, they would BE liberals. Doing unto others as you would have them do unto you doesn't really get you to homophobia, defending the rich against the poor, carrying guns, murdering doctors, etc. The politics of hate and fear are inconsistent with any religion based on Christ. Pity these fools and don't worry who they pray for before their evening sessions of speaking in tongues or handling snakes or the like.

the neo-con war criminals shud pray for each other. pray that their a**es don't land in jail were big black bubba can get a shot at them. i'd pay to see that. it would be DELIVERANCE writ large. don't y'all just love my double entendres

One of the best comments on prayer that I ever heard was on the TV show MASH. "God answers all prayers. But sometimes the answer is No." This "I'll pray for you" stuff has always struck me as an insult and a declaration that the one being "prayed for" is the enemy. These fake Christians also forget that according to the Bible Jesus said "for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Mt 9:13. Ergo those of us who do not buy their brand of Christianity are in the 'righteous' category.

i've got an idea for ann coulter or sarah p. instead of praying for me they can blow me.

PGR88 quotes: "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." --Ecclesiastes 10:2 -------------- Ecclesiastes didn't know much about human anatomy. The human heart is on the left.

Pray away! It doesn't hurt anything or anybody. That said, please don't assume that because I disagree with you on social and political issues that I am a sinner in need of saving. I appreciate the gesture and thank you for it. However, I also resent the subtle jab.

I found their arrogance and self-importance stunning. I have to wonder what Jesus would think of these hypocritical Pharisees. I believe we all need to pray for one another and our nation. However, I have found the leaders of the evangelical right and their followers to be some of the most unChristian and self-serving people I have ever known. I know non-believers who are kinder, more generous and blessed with more loving hearts than these people. I believe we need to pray for them that their hearts may be opened to love their neighbors as themselves.

Liberty College and institutions just like them are truly sick and sorry people. They have no place in a free country. Their number one goal is to theocratize America and force us all to live just like those in the mideast, the very type of governments that our sons are dying for to protect us and every nation of free people. They use their religious nonsense to hold their own people in sway and to garnish their money. That is all religion is about anyway, show us the money. These evangelical leaders pass their religious corporations down to their sons so the money stays in the family. I am sure God sees that, as sure as I am that Jerry Falwell is shoveling sh*t in hell.

Isn't anybody going to defend these people? Ok, stupid question. Stupid people believing stupid things, doing stupid things, saying stupid things ... I though a stupid question appropriate.

Britain asks Schwarzenegger to close prostitute web site!! "Surely it can't be too difficult for 'The Terminator' to terminate Punternet and that's what I am demanding that he does."

Someone who claims to be a Christian, but has evil in their hearts, is not a Christian.There is not a Christian among you, so please don't pray for me. Jesus would denounce you. I pray for You. God Bless America.

"I'll pray for you" in the mouth of too many of today's self-labeled adherents of Christianism is just their polite euphemism for "f--k you." While they continue to pray for me I'll continue to do their thinking for them.

I'll pray for conservative evangelicals to evolve so they'll think like humans.

Praying is bollocks anyway, they r talking to themselves. If prayer actually worked America would be a theocracy, abortion illegal and Sarah Palin President. None of them has happened......yet. Oh and by the way, f--k you Liberty Council and your "adopt a liberal" B.S.

Dear David Walters, you quote part of what Jesus said about praying for your enemies. "Pray for your enemies for in doing so you heep burning coals on their heads" How about just praying for guidence and for Gods will instead of trying to get God to see it our way. Please don't use the Bible to manipulate. "Fundimental" christians are so good at that.

This is just the kind of thing we hear about, what do you imagine they really say to each other when they're sure nobody else is listening, sure that only the True Believers will hear it? The deeper into it you go, the more religious belief and its associated faith mechanisms appear to be a disease. A virulent disease in the case of these people. But hey, guess what? Those of us who are immune to this disease aren't going to be able to change any of it. Only those with a mild infection are going to stop them ... but they won't, will they? As long as rational and thinking humanity puts up with the nuts on the far side of the average believer, we won't bother the average believer that much. There is no dialog possible with the true believer. There is no cure. There is no external logic or vaccine or conversion possible which can free them, and us, from their disease.

surlydoc: You wish!!

Rdobrick says "I'll pray for conservative evangelicals to evolve so they'll think like humans." I say eeh! oeh!! oo!! oo!! Now if I could just get this tail off me!!

"If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, ..." James 1:5 If God is inclined to give "liberally" to those asking in sincerity, can't we say that God is liberally minded? Could it be that conservatives are praying in the wrong direction, i.e. counter to the intents and purposes of a liberal God? Perhaps conservatives would be well advised to take the above passage to heart, and pray instead for that wisdom they're so sorely in need of.

I honestly feel sorry for these people -- they have no idea what Jesus was talking about. He told them to pray in their private prayer closets -- FOR THEMSELVES! He told them not to worry about Death and they're scared to die. He told them not to worry about taxes and they spend every waking moment moaning about taxes. He told them to care for the poor and they want to throw the poor out in the streets. He told them to care for the sick and they instead got in bed with Big Insurance. They can pray all they want, but their prayers just hit the ceiling. They don't even have the guts to stop judging others and start loving their enemies, like Jesus asked. Instead, they do the exact opposite of what Jesus asked -- they use their time judging everyone else, and hating their enemies. They serve Greed instead of serving God. Conservative Christians give kind and loving Christians a bad name.

It's a Pharisaical suggestion--no offense to the Pharisees. But prayer benefits the one who prays, enlarging the heart and deepening compassion. It's certainly better than calling people Nazis and killing doctors. Perhaps some of these newly compassionate evangelists may discover an new of those who are not like them. Maybe that will lead them to love their neighbors a bit more. Maybe they'll even extend that to the poor and the powerless and the differently colored. Maybe we liberals will have to start an Adopt-a-Right-winger movement. My blessings on anyone who opens his or her mind to pray for another. If it's a true prayer, a humble prayer, it will improve the soul.

Let's hope Christ truly rose from the dead...otherwise he would be spinning in his grave. Aren't Christians supposed to be avoiding the Phariseean prayer of being glad they're not like those poor sinners over there?? They'd better start adopting a Bible Study. Oh, wait, I forgot: this is Evangelicalism. Christ isn't the shield, he's the grenade.

I love seeing the hateful atheists come out of the woodwork to demonstrate their utter intolerance for those who don't share their intrinsically correct views of the universe. Atheists like to claim they are enlightened. The atheists who visit this blog are just a bunch of bigots.

"It's certainly better than calling people Nazis " You mean like these angry liberals who not only call Bush a Nazi and "Christian Fascist Pig", but they call for his murder. http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621 Take a look at your "tolerant" liberal friends and see what hypocrites you are.

I'm a 2-faced womanizing, child molesting, church going, Christ loving, thieving (like all politicians), right wing republican. Who the f*#k is going to pray for my sanctimonious butt ???????

Looks like the atheists are getting to you, eh bob? Starting to lose your faith, just a little, is it disturbing you? Does it bother you that people who are smarter than you find that your faith is silly? This seems to be all you have to say these days, how much you hate the atheists. Well, back to the subject at hand. What do you think of these "hateful" christians, are they really fine upstanding examples of christianity? Or are they evil scum, you know, what the atheists say they are?

"You mean like these angry liberals who not only call Bush a Nazi and "Christian Fascist Pig", but they call for his murder." Hey Bob, this is the standard right-wing tactic of diversion. Find something evil your liberal enemies have done, and divert attention away from the evil things the conservatives are doing. Guess what? Both are evil. In fact, your attempt to divert attention away from the evil done by your side is equally evil. You're giving them permission. And one last thing, you silly person you, not all liberals are atheists, and not all atheists are liberals. In fact most of the atheists I know find the liberals to be a bunch of dilettantes and phonies. Harmless dilettantes and phonies, unlike the practicing evil bstards that make up your side.

I pray for the liberals every day because they need prayer. Look, liberals believe in killing babies and in some cases they believe it’s all right to take a baby out of the mother’s womb at term, stick a syringe into the baby’s head and suck it’s brain out to kill the baby. If you don’t think normal people need to pray for liberals, then I have some swamp land on the moon I would like to sell you.

So sayno2obama, you're normal?

I doubt thats what Jesus meant when he said to pray for your enemies, but its probably what the Bible means when it tells Christians to "pray for your leaders".

We just need to start taxing organized religion and related groups. It would probably pay for healthcare reform and the increasingly costly Christian wars we are fighting in the Middle East. I’m just saying…

Sounds good! I was taught that prayer changes the heart of the person who does the praying as much as it does that of the person being prayed for. This may create a Christian left!

Well khote14, there are people who kill and I say that is not a normal behavior and they are people who don’t kill and I say they are normal, so I’m in the latter category so yes, I guess that makes me normal. So sayno2obama, you're normal? POSTED BY: KHOTE14 | OCTOBER 1, 2009 7:11 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well khote14, there are people who kill and I say that is not a normal behavior and they are people who don’t kill and I say they are normal. I’m in the latter category, so yes, I guess that makes me normal.

there's nothing like stupid Christianists presuming higher moral authority when they have the intellectual curiosity of Sarah Palin and blood on their hands like George W Bush.

MightySparrow, May I ask you a question? What is the difference between what you condemned conservatives of doing in paragraph one, and what you just wrote of conservatives in paragraph two? It seems to me that all of the statements were based on a little bit of fact, raised to a stereotype of the opposition and heightened with phrases of hyperbole that slap of demonization of the enemy. How do we move forward from here?

dhxx is either a muslime or an atheist.

dhxx is either a muslime or an atheist. Posted by: sayno2obama Yeah, it's obvious they can't be a Fundie - too many of the words are spelled correctly.

Yeah, it's obvious they can't be a Fundie - too many of the words are spelled correctly. ---------------------------------------------- atheist – Noun, unbeliever in God or deties. Muslime – noun, somebody whose religion is islam. Just cut and pasted from my online dictionary and both are spelled correctly.

Their prayers are apparently working. Obama won the election. And there are liberal majorities in the House and Senate. The majority of Americans want a public option. And States are beginning to recognize gay marriage. Abortions are legal. And Georgia was hit with floods.

James10 - Your ignorance is almost as embarrassing as your bigotry. You are a silly and hateful person, but hey that is the target audience for this section.

Let's examine for a moment the foundation upon which (ahem) Liberty University was built on - the ministry and self-adopted "superior" moral philosophy of Jerry Falwell: "If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being." "I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" "AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals." "Good Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions." "If we are going to save America and evangelize the world, we cannot accommodate secular philosophies that are diametrically opposed to Christian truth ... We need to pull out all the stops to recruit and train 25 million Americans to become informed pro-moral activists whose voices can be heard in the halls of Congress." (One of McDonnell's favorites) "It appears that America's anti-Biblical feminist movement is at last dying, thank God, and is possibly being replaced by a Christ-centered men's movement which may become the foundation for a desperately needed national spiritual awakening." "The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible,without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc." "The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews." "God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve." "I put all the blame legally and morally on the actions of the terrorist, [but America's] secular and anti-Christian environment left us open to our Lord's [decision] not to protect." A Taliban of Christianism indeed. Anyone associated with this cult should be at minimum viewed with the greatest of suspicion and cynicism. These are not the words of an organization who knows anything of honor, loyalty, or valor.

Conservatives should pray for themselves and G(reedy)OP politicians to *End their protection of corporate greed and cronyism. The G(reedy)OP agenda has never been Christian, there is no interest in the poor or voiceless. Where were they when bush/cheney started their preemptive war for oil and obscene corporate profits, polluted the enviroment, tortured and trampled the constitution?

Perhaps they should focus instead on praying for the millions of Americans whose lives are devestated every day by the policies implemented by conservatives. Or for the souls of those left on the streets because they are ill and can't afford their medical bills. Maybe shoot up a few prayers for the families of the thousand who have died in illegal wars started by their conservative president. And then they could read scripture and find out how Jsesus taught us to pray - one the specific prayer, and using that same prayer his admontition to pray "like this." These so called Christians think God is their personal Santa Clause. Paul said pray constantly - meaning small prayers for guidance in you own journey to seek ad do God's will. Not for presents and in that sanctimoneous way described here - these folks use prayer as an ego boost -- "look how good we are because we are praying for..." just like the Pharisees. And we all know what Christ said about those folks who make a great deal of public fuss in their prayers and supplications...at least those of us who have bothered to read the Bible as the Bible.

POSTED BY: WASHPOST18 "Yeah, it's obvious they can't be a Fundie - too many of the words are spelled correctly." Oh please. The knuckle-dragging atheist bigots on this blog can't utter a coherent thought, let alone spell correctly. Look at you for instance.

me know jesus would vote for Bush cuse him bomb countries who no do what we say just like jesus flood world an you gotta live on a boat with animals and now obama no think good economy to bomb so how we gonna make money with no war? pailen in 2021!!!

Mighty Sparrow, I apologize to you. After reading your post, I was struck by the similarity of the statements made against the President and your statements against the Christian Right. But after reading the rest of the posts, I see that your comments were actually some of the more civil criticisms from the left. Deus te abencoe.

POSTED BY: JAMA452 "Where were they when bush/cheney started their preemptive war for oil and obscene corporate profits, polluted the enviroment, tortured and trampled the constitution?" You sound like Glenn Beck talking about Obama. All of you partisan idiots are the same. Better watch those spelling mistakes. Your hateful partisan buddy WASHPOST18 might cal you a Fundies. What a bunch of hypocrites you clowns are.

I'd rather be stabbed in the eye than have these demented monsters pray for me to their little fabrication they call god. the thought that i am in their mind at all makes me feel poisoned.

atheist – Noun, unbeliever in God or deties. Muslime – noun, somebody whose religion is islam. Just cut and pasted from my online dictionary and both are spelled correctly. Posted by: sayno2obama | AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Oh man, you owe me a new monitor for the coffee that just cause me to spit all over it. Are you wearing a bright red rubber nose and big floppy shoes right now as well? Stay priceless, cupcake.

It's condescending and elitist when it is mixed with the lies the same folks continually tell about Obama. Last time I check lying was a sin. Apparently, though, these folks are fine with that.

To all the "enlightened" and "tolerant" liberals out there: Take a look at the posts on this blog. Almost every single one of them is from an angry and bigoted liberal making some ignorant and hateful personal attack about those who dare share your narrow minded views. The notion of "intellectual" and "tolerant" liberals is a joke. At least on this blog. You guys are as hateful and close minded as the most hateful religious zealot.

Better watch those spelling mistakes. Your hateful partisan buddy WASHPOST18 might cal you a Fundies. What a bunch of hypocrites you clowns are. Posted by: bobmoses | I don't hate things like you bob, you're not worth the effort. You are a rich source of amusement for thinking people everywhere. Stay irrelevant and never change for us, sunshine.

Jesus would not be welcomed in conservative circles in America today. He was concerned about ministering to the poor and downtroden. He shunned and vilified the wealthy and powerful - like the filthy rich ministers in these allegedly Christian organizations. And he warned about following false profits who would use his name and the name of the Father for their own personal agenda and the work of the fallen one. look no further than dobson, fallwell, robertson, van impe.... all of them aptly described in scripture, all of them preying like vultures on the weak of mind and spirit.

POSTED BY: HILLMAN1 "It's condescending and elitist when it is mixed with the lies the same folks continually tell about Obama. Last time I check lying was a sin. Apparently, though, these folks are fine with that." I love how liberal bigots conflate everyone who does not share their views as one stereotyped and faceless mass. Please, oh tolerant liberal, let us know what Christian leaders are telling lies about Obama? You mindless partisans can't tell the difference between your twisted and bigoted stereotypes and reality.

This "evil" gay man will pray for these theocrats (when I'm not busy recruiting children to my "lifestyle"!) that God forgive them for their enthusiastic support of Bush's trumped-up war in Iraq (among other things). You know, that war that has killed countless thousands of innocent men, women and children.

john1262 - "Jesus would not be welcomed in conservative circles in America today." More ignorant and bigoted nonsense. You do know that red states donate far more time and money to charity than blue states right? I doubt it. You would have to be able to read to have that knowledge. Just stick to your ignorant bigotry. It will allow you to keep hating people who don't share your narrow minded views. What a "tolerant" liberal you are. Do any liberals here have anything to say besides "I hate people who disagree with me and think I am morally superior to all of them". What a pathetic person you are.

Oly a fool equates typing skill with intellect. Or spelling. Read Teddy Roosevelt in his own hand. He was part of a movment to simplify spelling -- and he did not follow the standard rules. Mark Twain is attributed with saying "if k-a-t does not spell 'cat' then just what does it spell?" Pray often, but in the way Jesus taught. If you are a Christian. God is not Santa.

"I don't hate things like you bob, you're not worth the effort." Nonsense. Your posts are quite clear. You hate "Fundies" If I am not worth the effort, than why are you going to the effort, bigot? "You are a rich source of amusement for thinking people everywhere. Stay irrelevant and never change for us, sunshine." LOL. Mindless bigotry is "thinking". LOL Yeah, you and Fed Phelps are great thinkers. LOL

"Oly a fool equates typing skill with intellect. Or spelling." Why don't you tell that to your bigot buddy, WASHPOST18. You know, the hateful bigot who started the discussion on spelling with: ""Yeah, it's obvious they can't be a Fundie - too many of the words are spelled correctly."" I agree that WASHPOST18 is a fool. All bigots are.

So in order to call someone "bigoted" you offer no evidence, just call names. Genius. Pure genius. Pointing out that this type of phony prayer, this type of chest thumping public moralizing is exactly what Jesus railed against in his ministry is accurate. Open your Bible and read it. The very fact that this nonsense of "praying for liberals" is in the Washington Post is absolute proof that this is what is being deon. And it is done for ego and for staking a claim in social heirarchy - not for genuine religious expression. At least that is how Christ himself expressed his view of this sort of thing. And if there are Christians donating money to psuedo-religious institutions that does not equate to caring for the poor and downtrodden. A does not equal B.

Gotta go to work, bigots. Remember, anyone who does not share your intrinsically correct views on policy or spirituality is dumb, evil or dumb and evil. That is what liberal "tolerance" is all about. Don't believe me? Count up the attacks on bob-believers and contrast that with the attacks on Christians. Bigotry is the hallmark of liberals on this blog.

This liberal will be praying for conservatives to learn to think and feel compassion, neither of which they seem to do very much. Also, Lord, please help conservatives accept defeat, for more is coming their way.

GTONEY55 "This liberal will be praying for conservatives to learn to think and feel compassion, neither of which they seem to do very much. Also, Lord, please help conservatives accept defeat, for more is coming their way." Not only are you ignorant of political trends, you are such a close minded and intolerant person that you really think that those who do not share your narrow minded views is morally inferior to you and those who share your narrow minded views. Thanks for demonstrating that famous liberal "tolerance". BTW: I would bet my life that you and the other bigots here have not participated in any charity work over the past year. You know it is true about you.

If it helps mitigate their seething, unchristian hatred for liberals, as well as any others they may desagree with, then, by all means, let conservatives pray to their cold little heart's content.

Dieterman; why in the world would you chose to be gay? And for God’s sake, stop recruiting young boys into your perverse and sexual deviant lifestyle.

Now the rest of the country knows what it is like to live in Lynchburg, VA, the home of "Liberty University". People come from all over the world to commune with the Falwellites. My mother told me that actions speak louder than words and judging by the actions of these "cristocrats" Jesus is embarrassed and ashamed.

Really, this is a question in anyone's mind who truly understands the meaning of a prayer? Men and women who politicize prayer are akin to the "money changers" that Jesus threw out of the temple. They are using prayer for their own self-serving beliefs in an effort to control others. And in this Nation politics, money and power go hand in hand. Also, unfortunately, it is only the very religious gullibles of our society who believe their "prayer" strategies and there are way too many of them in this Nation.

Gotta go to work, bigots.Posted by: bobmoses | October 1, 2009 8:21 AM BTW: I would bet my life that you and the other bigots here have not participated in any charity work over the past year. You know it is true about you. Posted by: bobmoses | October 1, 2009 8:28 AM Look, Bob's a liar! Or Jesus! Anyone else think that even if Bob really does have a job and does leave his basement the continual, "SQUAAWWK BIGOT SQUAAAWK HYPOCRITE!" will continue because of the little drinking bird clipped to the side of the keyboard that repeatedly hits the "Bigot","Hypocrite" and "Submit" keys? BTW Bob in one sense it's not surprising that the red states, assuming your claim to be true, donate more time and money than blue states to charity. That's because the red states get more federal money than blue states, money that originates in the pockets of blue-staters. So to draw the logical conclusion from this, red staters have more time to donate because they don't have jobs relying instead on the blue staters to support them and they have more money because they money they're giving isn't theirs. Funny old world in'it, Chuckles?

When I was in college, I wrote a letter to the Editor of our college paper, expressing my disappointment that so many campus student groups were founded on Christian fraternity. I felt that it was exclusive, and prevented non-Christian students from engaging in campus life. A friend of mine that I usually had coffee and studied with each morning read my letter the day it was published, and began to argue with me in a very animated way, that we all needed Jesus or we would be condemned to Hell. She swore that she would pray for me, so that I would find God and see the error of my ways. I asked her, please, not to pray for me, and told her that it would be a waste of her prayer time, because I already had come to terms long ago that my faith in God had nothing to do with her faith in God, and that no matter how much she prayed, nothing would change that. So, I find it perplexing that Christians, and in particular, American Christians, find it necessary to "pray" for those they disagree with. Is it really us liberal hippies that they pray for? Is it it shelter from change that they pray for?

I will be happy for conservative Christians to pray for my godless liberal soul, so long as they do it in the privacy of their own churches and we finally make those churches pay taxes. How much longer do modern Americans have to subsidize the mishmash of superstitions that calls itself "religion"? It is obnoxious.

This iniative could yield some interesting results, given that neither side can truly know the mind of God. My money is on those who wish to help the poor and the sick, based pretty much on what Jesus, the saints, and so on have said throughout history.

The Liberty Counsel are a bunch of clowns. Do liberals really want JERRY FALWELL acolytes, of all people, praying for them? Please. They should pray they get a clue. Did anyone see the Liberty Counsel's "analysis" of HR3200, the health care bill? Biggest joke of analysis I've ever seen and would get them laughed off the Capitol Hill if they had any respect there in the first place...

Sounds like they are praying that the liberals become liberals. Maybe they should adopt a conservative and pray for them to lead "peaceable lives." Ugh! They need a little help in that area. Peace is definitely on the liberal side right now. I will definitely pray that our Republican leaders change their ways and start following the bible and maybe even the Constitution.

I don't think this "BobMoses" guy knows the definition of "bigot." When your faith becomes intricately tied up in a political ideology that supports pre-emptive war, torture, failed abstinence policies, homophobia, xenophobia in regards to illegal immigrants, ludicrous Republican environmental "policies" (or lack thereof....) ---- it's not bigotry to castigate you and your ilk via the written word - it's called opinion. And unfortunately for those of us who have to live with the awful policies you support, it's opinion based on fact...

Right out of Monty Python: "O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." Oh Lord, show the godless, bed-wetting, gay, Muslim, illegal immigrant, Magic Negro liberals the error of their ways. Show them that their concern for the poor and their children is misguided socialism and that these people's lack of health insurance is Thy wrathful castigation for their sloth and pre-existing conditions. Teach them to defend Thy oil and Thy Israel from the Muslim hoards. Show them guns in their home and Thy churches are thy true way to protection and salvation. Teach them, oh Lord once again, the woman's place in the home, subservient to men as thou have commanded. Restore unto us the joy of a white, Christian America and give us theocratic power, oh God, to change the Constitution to Thy standards, casting out the gays only after the Latter Day Saints have given them a chance to be cured by electroshock. Smite the current President of the United State and dispatch him to hell posthaste. We pray all this in your loving name, Amen.

Since the Bible tells Christians to pray for our leaders, all Christian should be praying whether they like the leader or not. If they are not praying, then they are not pleasing God. If bad things happen, then they can only blame themselves, since the bible does state that God has the leader's heart in His hands and He turns it which way He wants.

"Should prayer be politicized?" ---------------------- Religion is nothing but politics.

better not pick on bobmoses too much longer. I know, it's fun to see how red his neck gets, to watch that throbbing vein in his forehead getting ready to explode. But remember who and what he is. He's going to crawl out of his parent's basement one day and wander down to some liberal church and shoot people.

I agree. It is anti-human and near satanic to try to stop citizens from dying due to lack of health care. Jesus surely would have turned a blind eye on them, just like he did to the prostitute. Oh wait...

The Mesopotamians believed the Great Flood was caused by a God who was tired of the flood of noisy prayers coming from earth. Look out Bible belt; your homes may be under water soon.

The Bob Moses pot once again calling the kettle black.

I'm much more liberal then any of the people mentioned in the article so I think at least half of the school should spend all of their waking hours praying for me. I really do believe we need socialized medicine in this country. With a stand like this I should be deserving of 1,000's of hours of prayer. I also firmly believe in a woman's right to choose. This ought to be worth several more thousands of hours of prayer. I don't believe in capital punishment. More hours of prayer should be reseved for me. I believe Jerry Falwell was small little man who stoked the emotions of the ignorant. This should be worth close to a million hours of prayer from Liberty alone. Yes, I am in need of your prayers. The more you pray for me and those like me the less damage you'll do to the society so I encourage you to begin Liberal Prayer Fest as soon as possible.

The writers of this section are hurting the coffee growers and purveyors. Normally I need another cup to get going out here in the high Rocky Mountains but alas all I have to do is read this piece! The Christian Right never fails to astound. Whenever it chooses it can jump from calling on the the Old Testament, paranoid and vengeful God ready to lay waste to whole cities to the Christian God who turns the other cheek, admonishes his followers to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and attempts to stir them away from violence. No these new "Christians" who by the way are anxiously awaiting the "Kingdom" of God take positions on gun control, health care reform even Wall Street and banking reform. They've become this heard of Wildebeests driven along by the likes of carefully coiffed preachers, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and now the supreme idiot, Glenn Beck. They do us a service however, as they offer an enormous lesson in humility. If anyone is interested in how humble our intellectual roots are they need to look no further than this praying for liberals gig. America has faced many enemies and we have for the most part won the day. Liberty and reason have triumphed over fear, ignorance and tyranny--most of the time. But the nation faces its worst enemy ever. It is the enemy within that takes to the air waves every day and preaches hatred in a tone that would make the devil blush. These people are not Christians any more than the Christians of the last century who would get up in the night and drag a man out of his house and hang him from a tree because of the color of his skin.

As a liberal, I pray every day to my God, Secularia, that the Twisted Agenda to Destroy All That is Good in America will come to fruition. Vote for socialism! Burn the flag! Destroy the family unit! Down with Christianity! Up with paganism! Indoctrinate our kids to love homosexuals! More money for PBS! Health care for everyone!

The conservative wing-nuts should spend more time reading the Bible and less time telling other people how to live. They could start with Matthew 7:5 - You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

i've got an idea for ann coulter or sarah p. instead of praying for me they can blow me. P ------------------------------------------- Uh, Ann Coulter's a guy. At least unitl he/she/IT, has that final operation. I can't figure out why the cons are so against such a Christian idea as making sure that all of their brethren have access to decent medical care. If it finally does pass, maybe Ann the Man can save enough to get some store bought boobs to go with the new plumbing. Too bad you can't purchase humility and integrity.

Prayer for liberals seems in part undermine dialouge, if you pray for a liberal can one assume that the Prayer (the one who is praying) has already solifidified a "position" contrary to a liberal's perhaps without fully understanding the philosohpical or other reasoning behind the Liberal's thinking? It's curious.

Aw c'mon, Ann Coulter isn't a guy. She has two X chromosomes. So she's got a Y chromosome too ... that doesn't make her a guy does it?

Pray for Liberals? Who was that Saint you pray to for Hopeless Cases?

I think it is blaringly obvious that Jerry Falwell and these others do not actually believe in God at all. They would never act in numerous ways so contrary to the teachings of Jesus. They are self-serving, ignorant hypocrits who are only looking to enrich themselves. The words and actions of most liberals is actually much closer to how Christians, Jews and Muslims are taught to live their lives.

The religious right is the most anti-Christian group in America. They are the reason many of us no longer call ourselves "Christian" and abandoned main stream religions. They are doing more to advance agnosticism, atheism, and cynicism than our alleged enemies. These folks are the antithesis of Christ's teachings as found in a book called "The New Testament", the book they conveniently forget when falling back on hate filled passages of "The Old Testament".

When I started attending a church-run college as a youth, I learned that the unspoken rule concerning grace before meals in a crowded cafeteria was "Say your own." Still a good rule.

I was raised Baptist, and attended Southern Baptist churches up until about age 20 (1980s). At no time did I hear in church political talk, other than "pray for our leaders." Not "pray for Republicans" or "pray for liberals" or "pray for the politically undecided". I myself was liberal, but we didn't discuss personal ideologies, we talked about the Bible and how to live (but not how to vote). I guess things have really changed. It sounds almost like they're saying "pray for our leaders to make the best decisions", but by framing it as "pray for liberals", they are implying that liberal are wrong and need divine changing. It's the "liberals are mentally ill (Coulter)" or morally depraved argument - sinners, in other words. Which is interesting, because the Bible teaches that ALL are sinners, and the ones going to church are there because THEY are sinners. Maybe these church-goers should start adopting each other. Maybe these evangelicals should realize that churches are full of liberals!

BOBMOSES spews: "Almost every single one of them is from an angry and bigoted liberal making some ignorant and hateful personal attack about those who dare share your narrow minded views." No, actually, we don't attack people who share our "narrow minded" views. Why would we attack people who share our views? No, we challenge people who are brainwashed since birth into relieving themselves from the burden of critical thought by blind supplication to the supernatural. If we're angry, it's because these medieval superstitions are negatively affecting our lives. We have military who think they're engaged in the 21st century Crusades, we have politicians on C Street who fancy themselves a separate morality in which any means are justified by the ends, we have televangelist charlatans robbing widows of their last dollar to buy multi-million dollar estates, and we have public policy that cares more about a zygote than a living, breathing child. And I haven't even scratched the surface of the wrongs perpetrated in the name of an invisible sky patriarch by self-righteous ninnies who think those voices in their head must be God. We're the ones who are breaking the news that indeed, sweetie, there is no Santa Claus, and the mere suggestion of it puts your schoolgirl panties all in a bunch. Yeah, yeah, I know: you've been told all along that you better watch out, better not cry, better not pout or your carcass will burn in eternal misery, and that's kept most of you from shooting up the neighborhood. That's the one redeeming characteristic of religion: keeping people in line by fear of eternal damnation. But some give themselves a "get out of jail free" card with John 3:16, and no matter what evil they visit on their fellow man all they need to is believe in Jesus and they'll be spared from the punishment they earned. This principle is at the core of this televangelism of greed, conservative favoring of the wealthy and neglect of the poor, and the wanton slaughter of people who don't share your religion. Well, hey. You know what? I'm having none of it. Too bad for you. So you just go right ahead and shoot the messenger. That's par for the course. But if reality makes you feel the victim of bigotry, that's gonna be your "cross to bear" because no one is going away any time soon. Now you have some inkling how it feels to deal with a Christo-fascist totalitarian. In closing, you share 70% of your DNA with a banana. Get over yourself.

This is a serious matter and it is a good thing that both cons and pros (conservatives and progressives) are willing to pray for the other. What is not good is that both sides have their demagogues that are mostly beyond the help of prayer. The cons lead by far the pros in this category both in quantity as well as magnitude of error but the pros have their minor contributors also. I pray that the cons simply learn to think. So far it hasn't been answered.

These fundie theocrats never come up with any quotes from Jesus to support their position on any issue. He is the Word of God Made Flesh in the Christian view, after all. Guess that's because there aren't any. That's the dirty little secret of Christian fundamentalism - they worship the Old Testament God at his most wrathful and sadistic and, in their heart of hearts, dearly wish they could just expunge Jesus from the Bible.

coloradodog @ October 1, 2009 8:54 AM You crack me up! BUMP!

Praying for others suggests that others are unhappy, and the Christians are happy. Based on the town hall meetings of recent over heralth care the Christians do not appear very happy. Instead of prayer, I would recommend the dialog of listening. Perhaps the Conservatives might want to listen to their liberal friends instead of just praying for them without knowing the condition of their lives. At least the Conservticves will know what ails their liberal friends. I am a Buddhist and I do not make disticntions of peoples political persuasions, as their political persuasions are not humanistic in nature but political in nature. Patrick

If these yahoos want to talk to their imaginary friend about me, I can't see how it could hurt.

Got God Gang present status democrat moderate republican don't be confused country club christians who preach the 'full gossip' are not the church, beware liberals with their hidden agenda is not the church, beware they're cliques and this is why the church is shrinking Jesus threw them all out years ago don't yall remember Jesus said " i am the vine and ye are the branches " fast forward there are camouflaged catepillers in the vine so just get to them before they spread their wings suggestion watch + study a vine growin' and you'll understand what Jesus was talking about does anybody have their ears on ? more later....

If I was adopted under this program, I'd commit patricide.

Better to be united in prayer than in voodoo. There seems to be more of both these days. It's still 10% of what happens to you and 90% of how you respond to it.

Sounds very much like the Catholics mentality during the inquisition, when they prayed for the souls of those they burned at the stake, or the Puritans who praying as prayed for the souls of the witches they burned alive. Now that today's religious extremists, the republevangelicals, have demonized those who care for others and society as the evil "liberals", they must pray for them too. One wonders when the burnings at the stake will begin. Darn that piece of paper called the Constitution! Its always getting in the way of righteousness. What I would rather see is these people show some moral character and practice what they preach. Stop accepting any government support. Stop accepting Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security. Stop sending your kids to free public schools, stay out of the public library and off America's interstates. If you want to show your concern for creeping socialism, stop using socialist institutions in America. That would at least show you have a spine but it will never happen. Praying for liberals as a show of concern is so, err, how should I put it, ... wimpy.

I've been looking through the Bible, both my copy and online, and I do not find any place where JESUS says anything about heaping coals of fire on the head of your enemies by praying for them. That is Old Testament, Proverbs, and Paul, the carpetbagger. Many of the problems with right wing Christians stem from their turning away from Jesus and following Paul, IMHO. In Mt 5:43-45, JESUS says, 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. This is from the ESV Bible. KJV has "sendeth rain" etc.

I believe our society functions better when church and state remain separate as much as possible. Life is gray as much as some people wish it to be black and white. I wish these conservative christians would form their own policial party and vacate the Republican Party, which is supposed to represent the free market and personal choice, not imposing religious beliefs on people. Let people choose for themselves: whether it's health care insurance, stock investments, or abortion.

The delusional praying to their invisible sky wizard in hopes of converting others to thier pre-Newtonian, pre-Galalean, pre-Age of Enlightenment, pre-Copernican and pre-Age of Scientific Inquiry propositions,dogmas and edicts ad nauseam. Priceless. Ask one of those religious fellows to discuss the Synod of Carthage, or the Edicts of Milan and watch their head explode. Why pray? Just make a wish. Afterall, wish fullfillment is at the core of every prayer.

Traveling in countries targeted by American religious proselytizers (why are they always American?) you will inevitably be approached by them. And when you reject their product, even politely, they say they will "pray for you." Here at home, when you decline to give a drunk on the street a donation for his next fix, he will say "God bless you." In both situations, the intention is: "God damn you." In the one case, the religious aggressor believes he or she is the Good, fighting a running battle with the Evil. In the other, the drunk is the Evil, despising the Good for their virtues.

BOB MOSES: YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. YOU STARTED WITH NIXON AND THE MORAL MAJORITY AND HIS SOUTHERN STRATEGY AND HERE YOU ARE NOW, FORTY YEARS LATER, LOST IN THE WILDERNESS.

Whether religion should or should not be politicized is irrelevant, for centuries, monarchs, commoners, political parties and presidents have wielded religion to justify their own agenda. Instead of calling this practice politicized religion, I would just call it hypocrisy.

Aw c'mon, Ann Coulter isn't a guy. She has two X chromosomes. So she's got a Y chromosome too ... that doesn't make her a guy does it? -- Posted by: katavo It's rather difficult to determine what that makes her however I understand she has named her extra chromosome Bob.

Pray for liberals? It would be a change from Obama's spiritual adviser who curses all America.

Lunatics.

And they want control of our country.

This "adopt a liberal" thing is basically a passive/aggressive attempt at publicly embarrassing and harassing those that you do not agree with into conforming to your ideas & ideals. The insanely religious (Christians, Muslims AND Jewish) have been doing this sort of hocus-pocus since the beginnings of religion.... "Oh everyone is afraid of us because they cannot confirm whether or not we are wrong about the essence of who "God" is; SO, when someone tries to pull the rug out from under us, we'll publicly humiliate or embarrass he or she into recanting, by finding a subtle but obvious way of portraying them as a heathen/atheist/religion basher. Then we'll shine a spotlight on them. All those who are uncertain if we are correct, but afraid to challenge us, will side with us because they'll be afraid of us spreading the spotlight to them. Our critics will then back down under the guise of public scrutiny and humiliation, and we will triumph on the basis of this, rather than ACTUAL TANGIBLE evidence that what we say and believe is correct & true." In the Middle Ages and just before The Age of Enlightenment, this public spotlight took the form of public torture, like the dunking chairs, the gallows, burning-at-the-stake and flogging. Same thing.....just more passive, less aggressive..... "Progress is a nice word. But change is its motivator, and change has it’s enemies" ... President Abraham Lincoln (and the main enemies of change are usually conservatives .... me)

Pray for liberals? It would be a change from Obama's spiritual adviser who curses all America. BTW it's working. America is cursed with Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Democrats. Americans can break the curse in 2 to 4 years.

What I would rather see is these people show some moral character...-- Posted by: Fate1 Fate1, take a gander at the collection of Falwell quotes pasted some way above this one. I think it demonstrates the kind of character of morals that Liberty looks for in it's staff and indoctrinates into it's student body. The problem is they have been showing their moral character and that character is quite vile.

Oh sheesh, just when we finally get rid of the bobmoses sockpuppet another of his personalities (ekim53) jumps in. Let's start off simple EK; what "spiritual advisor" are you ranting about? You've never bothered to provide a name.

They live in a fantasy land of what might be described as "God's perfectly benevolent kingdom on earth." BUT WHEN THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF WHAT TURNS OUT TO BE A MURDEROUS EMPIRE, THEY LIE, STEAL, CHEAT AND KILL. IF DEPRAVED HYPOCRISY IS THE TRUE MARK OF THE DEVIL, HE WALKS AMONG US. HE IS THE GOP. You prayers are meaningless because you god is a false god. I will pray for you. I will pray for you to grow up because your country needs you.

I don't want anyone associated with Jerry Falwell, any republican or anyone who voted for George Bush praying for me.I believe in prayer but I'll do my own praying.

Ekim5 wrote: "Americans can break the curse in 2 to 4 years." Maybe you forgot that Americans are the ones who broke the neocon curse of Bush/Cheney? We can actually understand what our president says now. And who will the republicans put up for Congress/President in the next 2-4 years? Dancing Delay? Rouge Palin? Any of the numerous perverts that inhabit the GOP? You can't gain political power only by demonizing your opponent constantly, which seems to be all the GOP has left. If you feel the need to pray, pray for the GOP which America has rejected in the House, Senate and White House.

I "pray" that our version of the Taliban, the Christian right, finds the strength to pull off a wave of mass suicides and rid us of themselves, the most despicable, disgusting, and hypocritical "Americans". I'm sure if there were a god/jebus, he would want this.

What kind of Christians are against healthcare for the poor ?

Look. Whenever any politically motivated organization post the names of people on whatever communications instrument is available for whatever public reason stated, you can bet that they do not have your best interests at heart. This is a tactic the Nazis used in the 1920s and 1930s. It is just another clever way of compiling a list of "enemies" to be watched. Moreover, the entire notion of some whacko religious nut job "praying" for me imples a moral conceit on their part. How am I supposed to know if who or what they are praying to is God or Satan. I do not need some silly conservative political organization masquerading as a religious group so they can avoid paying taxes praying for me. I feel that need, I will do so myself. I have a far better chance of having my own prayer heard than if some politically motivated charlatan does it for me.

The prayer effort by nutters is an excellent diversion for their manic energies! Let them pray 'til the cows come home. Remember the prayer study done on hospitalized cardiac patients a few years ago? 1. Group one was the control sample and had no one in particular praying for them. 2. Group 2 had thousands of church goers launching prayers on their behalf but were not told of the situation. 3. Group three had an equal number of prayers aimed at their condition and were notified that thousands of folks had been organized to pray for them. ---------The Inevitable Happened--------- a.) The group who never knew a massive prayer effort was made on their behalf had the same outcome as the control group. b.) The group that was told of the prayer war on their behalf showed a significant DECLINE in heath. The reasons were obvious. Prayer itself had no effect whatsoever. But being told that thousands of strangers were efforting on their behalf, the in-the-know heart patients thought their conditions were worse than they actually were. The additional stress caused additional problems.

"Progress is a nice word." Sorry, but liberalism is crap and changing the name to Progressive doesn't help one iota.

This is disgusting on so many levels, but totally unsurprising.

The Bible already showed Jesus' position on religion and politics. They do NOT mix! I repeat...do NOT mix! So what's this praying for liberals thing all about again?

What a bunch of frauds. Yes, Jesus is definately a conservative Republican. This story is another example of why the U.S. needs to stop the preferential treatment given to religious organizations and start treating them like the business and political institutions they are. Tax them now.

"I wish these conservative Christians would form their own political party and vacate the Republican Party, which is supposed to represent the free market and personal choice, not imposing religious beliefs on people." When McCain was beating Huckabee and Romney in the GOP primaries last year, James Dobson appeared ready to bolt the party. Choosing Palin seemed like an attempt to both placate the religious right and appeal to disaffected Hillary Clinton voters. (There were many women governors and senators in the GOP who were better known, but they disagree with Palin on a divisive social issue that I won't name here.) But the choice has seemed to fracture the GOP even further since then, with Palin alienating many traditional meat-and-potatoes conservatives. I predict that before 2012, either the religious right will leave and form its own party, perhaps joining with the theocratic Constitution Party, or else the traditional conservatives will leave. BRT, which do you see as the more likely scenario?

"Progress is a nice word. But change is its motivator, and change has it’s enemies" ... President Abraham Lincoln (and the main enemies of change are usually conservatives .... me) IF YOU'RE WITH THEM CAN I JUST ASK, HOW BAD DOES IT SMELL IN THERE? BECAUSE FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN I SHOULD THINK YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER YOUR POSITION. BEING CONSERVATIVE FOR CONSERVATISM'S SAKE IS A DANGEROUS GAME. THESE WANNA-BE THUGS ARE THREATENING THE LIFE OF OUR PRESIDENT NOW.

What kind of Christians are against healthcare for the poor ? We already have it. Free hospitals, clinics and Medicaid. FIX THEM! We just don't want GOVERNMENT CRAP CARE OF NO CHOICE FOR EVERYONE like the Democrats in Congress who DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE GOVERNMENT CRAP CARE OF NO CHOICE THAT THEY INFLICT ON EVERYONE ELSE. SPEAKS VOLUMES

Anything to keep these sociopaths spinning their wheels in their own moralistic muck is fine by me.

No one should be afraid or offended by true private, spiritual thought, and I welcome anyone to humbly pray in a positive manner for me, as long as it does not come from this. This is pure political theater to keep these poor fearful people in line, isolated, and superior in their own narrow beliefs.

CHOKE ON THIS WHILE YOU PRAY FOR ME YOU DEPRAVED HYPOCRITES: JESUS OF NAZARETH LOOKED A *LOT* MORE LIKE OSAMA BIN LADEN THAN RONALD REAGAN. AND WE WAS MOST CERTAINLY AN ARAB, MOST LIKELY A CANNANITE. SO TELL ME YOU JESUS LOVING FREAK OF A HUMAN BEING SOUTHERN BAPTIST BLACK HATING ANIMAL, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO HAVE JUST KILLED A MILLION ARABS? FEELING THAT BLOOD LUST AGAIN? THAT'S VIETNAM AND IRAQ. WHICH DEFENSELESS COUNTRY IS NEXT YOUR MURDEROUS VILE SCUM? BE THE BEST REPUBLICAN YOU CAN BE! KILL ANYTHING UNLIKE YOU, ANY NON-WHITE, NON-CHRISTIANS.

I think the religious hypocrites should pray for Psycho Von Limbaugh and Bill O'Dummy. They have caused enough damage to the country.

Do you think prayer hasn't already been politicized? Why is it whenever someone is accused of being a radical liberal, it is in quotes by the "fair and balanced" reporter or commentator, yet when someone is an "extreme" or "far-right" conservative it is not in quotes (for those of you from Rio Linda, I reversed the usual convention to highlight the point).

Ekim5 wrote: "Americans can break the curse in 2 to 4 years." Maybe you forgot that Americans are the ones who broke the neocon curse of Bush/Cheney? We can actually understand what our president says now. And who will the republicans put up for Congress/President in the next 2-4 years? Dancing Delay? Rouge Palin? Any of the numerous perverts that inhabit the GOP? You can't gain political power only by demonizing your opponent constantly, which seems to be all the GOP has left. If you feel the need to pray, pray for the GOP which America has rejected in the House, Senate and White House. ________________________________________ It won't matter who runs. Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Democrats and their total incompetence have made 8 months seem like 8 years. Yes, Americans will be ready for Change, a meaningful change of cleaning out Washington.

Ye-as! Ye-as! Jay-sus will solve everything! ...and gays shouldn't be allowed to marry? Oh, so that's why Jesus didn't!!

JESUS OF NAZARETH LOOKED A *LOT* MORE LIKE OSAMA BIN LADEN THAN RONALD REAGAN. ________________________ It doesn't matter but Jesus was a Jew. That's for all the anti Semites that spew their gibberish here.

I reject the term "conservative Christian". I think we can all agree that the word conservative is generally meant to describe on who is devoted to the existing order of things. Jesus Christ was never, and can never be one who is devoted to the existing order of things. His entire ministry in fact was a rebellion against the very mindset that people like Pat Robertson--a political conservative--personify. Pat Roberston is not a Christian. None of the movement conservatives in fact are Christian at all. They have simply nitched themselves to Christianity as a political movement the dark objectives of which are to prevent any sort of progressive change--change that Christ Himself would passionately agree with--from ever taking place. Robertson and others like him are devoted to a twisted, weird 19th century revision of Christianity into a sort of death cult envisioning the so-called End Times. This dark, malevolent and false doctrine developed in the mid-19th century under the leadership of a fanatic named William Miller who concocted a fantasy that the world was going to end on a particular day in 1844 and that True Bleievers (those who believed in the silly fantasies he was peddling) would be taken aloft in a process called The Rapture--a process that Jesus never, ever referred to in any of the message he preached to the world. This false doctrine has been carried on and has morphed in this modern day into a fundamentalist movement that tries to mesh religion with politics to bring about the End Times. Believe me. The real enemy of humanity is Pat Robertson and the truly dangerous zealots who think and believe as he does. They are itching for Israel to get into a war with Iran so they can convince their ingnorant flocks of sheep that it is the signal for Christ's return.

This is a lousy topic for debate. How can anyone argue with the prayer option, politicized or not? It gives hope to the one making the prayers. It causes no physical harm to the target of the prayers. It leaves the final decision/action on the merit of the prayers to a Higher Power. Prayers are so much more dignified than Internet flame messages. PS: praying for a Bob McDonnell victory in November :-)

What a bunch of frauds. Yes, Jesus is definately a conservative Republican. This story is another example of why the U.S. needs to stop the preferential treatment given to religious organizations and start treating them like the business and political institutions they are. Tax them now. __________________________________ The liberals have turned public schools into indoctrination camps. Tax? Yes let's triple the Taxes on All Obama voters. They are the ones that want Obama's expensive government diapers for life...call it a Users Fee.

Churches have become so politicized that of course prayer is now politicized. Any and all churches that promote and publicly get involved in politics should immediately lose their non-profit status. No wonder so many of us have stopped going to church. We are bombarded with politics instead of hearing the messages of religion.

Notice how ekim won't respond to even the simplest of questions to back up it's claims. This is the signature behavior of the classic troll and should be treated as such. *plonk*

No thank-you right-wing religious freaks, you can save your prayers for your own needs. First of all, most of you people don't even understand what the term "socialist" means, as you are just regurgitating whatever Limbaugh has to say. Secondly, due to the separation of church and state, every argument that you have against the homosexual community is completely irrelevant to our constitution. And last but not least, human-life does not begin at conception. Our constitution says nothing what-so-ever about the preservation of a fetus, and furthermore, at the time these documents were written the United States was still under English common law (in which abortion is a legal act).

Trippin, Thanks (but I hope that's not one of those "terrorist fist bumps" Palin accused Obama and Michelle of during the campaign)

Conservatives should pray for themselves and G(reedy)OP politicians to *End their protection of corporate greed and cronyism. The G(reedy)OP agenda has never been Christian, there is no interest in the poor or voiceless, they represent corporations and polluters. Where were they when bush/cheney started their preemptive war for oil and obscene corporate profits, polluted the enviroment, tortured and trampled the constitution?

One cannot help but wonder if Jesus did return and decided to visit Pat Robertson's "Christian conservatives", what sort of greeting would He get? Imagine. You're happily sitting ion front of your TV set listening to Robertson blatheriong on about the libs and gays and hippies and so on when you get a knock at the door anbd there stands this pitiful looking young bearded man in sandals and a robe with long hair down to his shoulders. Now what sort of greeting is such a bedraggled looking hippie like bearded young man going to get among conservative right wingers who have been brainwashed into hating such people for years by the likes of Roberston, Falwell and Limbaugh? Are these not the very same people in that nasty tea bag-like crowd before Pilate that day who shouted: "Crucify Him!"?

Let them pray, if they please. Their prayers are between themselves and God, and She may deal with them as She pleases. I'd personally rather that, if they're going to pray for me, they pray for something useful, such as that my three-year-old son be inspired towards potty-training, but I suppose it's too much to ask. *shrug* Bobmoses - no rational person here is suggesting that fundamentalists should not have the right to practice as they please, marry as they please, etc. No one is seeking to deny you civil rights because of who you are, though you do not hesitate to attempt to do that to others. But that doesn't mean we can't subject your beliefs and actions to honest appraisal and give our opinions, as you do not fail to do to others. Get a grip.

What would Christ do? I don't think he would be too happy with the Christocrats and other people perverting the Christian message.

When so-called Christians cannot stop viewing their world through the lens of partisan politics, it betrays their lack of faith that God is in charge - and politicos are not.

The arrogant ignorant at their best!

Stereotypical christian-right response to a lost election and loss of power: pray for those liberals, for they are wrong and do not see the evil of their ways. Our christian way is led by a guiding light and the hand og god, we are the chosen ones and rightful leaders. Here's a prayer for a christian who would select me: Heavenly Darwin, please forgive those for have hijacked your good will and name and politicized it to enrich and empower themselves. Now please place the curse of pinnochio on each, so each time they misrepresent the truth their nose grows one inch. Thank you and evolution rules.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 Who else but the DEVIL would try to be this cunning. Deceit is not very becoming, and misuse of the word for selfish purposes exacts eternal punishment. Minco 10:1:09

So, how is this different from the demented Christian (redundant?)standing on a street corner with a sandwich board proclaiming the end of the world and shouting, "Repent, you sinners!"? I'm glad my god, Ra, doesn't cajole or force me to do anything irrational, arrogant or condescending--He just rides across the sky from dawn to dusk, providing light and inspiration to be happy in a world of darkness and foreboding.

If it means having people praying for me, I'll put my own name on the list. I can use all the help I can get.

I no longer attend church either and feel much more spiritually connected to God since quitting. It seems to me liberals seek peace with much more passion than these so-called Christians. Christ did not teach hatred and fear but you hear that from many pulpits now and certainly see it in the actions of so-called Christian leaders. No one turns people away from Christ like those Christians.

Praying for people to find god is the equivalent of hoping out loud that you'll be able, over time, to control what they think. It's offensive to those of us firm in any alternate belief - be it atheism, Buddhism, Shinto, etc. - and we can do without, thank you very much.

I would welcome conservatives praying for me. Maybe in the process they will find that their own hearts will be changed. Pray often and hard! Peace!

Who are you kidding? Prayer has been politicized for years. When people are told by their churches that certain social issues are the reason to vote for people, and pray that other politicians don't win (Catholics and abortion) then prayer is politicized. When churches are openly praying and preaching from the pulpit for the death of the POTUS and members of Congress because these members do not agree with your doctrine prayer is politicized. This has been going on a lot longer than since President Obama was elected. Living in the US I saw it under Clinton as well. I remember attending a church in New York and walking out when the Pastor asked God to "strike down the fornicator who is leading the glorious US to its destruction". And with Bush I remember churches I attended who disagreed with his policies praying for his policies to change, not Bush's death. Religion (and prayer) has been involved in politics since time began. Th only difference is whether or not your church (or religion) advocates violence in it's prayer.

Having them pray for us would be better than having them heave bombs into family planning clinics, etc. which they have been doing. I do hope, though, that this adoption does not involve their preaching to us one-on-one. The bombs might be easier to take.

I no longer attend church either and feel much more spiritually connected to God since quitting. It seems to me liberals seek peace with much more passion than these so-called Christians. Christ did not teach hatred and fear but you hear that from many pulpits __________________________________ Yes, like in the Liberal Obama's church where hate is preached encompassed in liberal Black Theology...a lot of peace there.

EKIM53, I have been in and out of schools, Universities, state and private colleges, public schools of all kinds all my life. I have been a pupil, a student, a teacher, an instructor. I have been a teacher in the Air War College, have taught strategy sessions to college students, and have even substuted for an economis and political science professor on occasion tough not a tenured professor myself. I have seen our public school system up close under the best and the worst circumstances in some of the wealthiest and some of the poorest districts. And I have to tell you that in all of that time I have never, ever witnessed a single instance of this liberal "indoctrination" you right wing dingoes are always barking about. Indeed, the only thing that even comes close is the sort of forced reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance students are perfunctorily required to recite before the class day begins. This is just another one of those convenient conservative myths that becomes conventional wisdom--like the liberal media. Isn't it curious that with all of this indoctrination idiots like you assure us that takes place within our educational system and media that up until Obama was elected President, Republicans had dominated the White House for 20 of the past 28 years? The truth is EKIM, you're a whiner and a loser. The truth is that it is people like you who would like nothing more than to be able to indoctrinate our children with you petty hatreds and prejudices.

Reminded me of the British humorist Mel Calman. A caption under one of the cartoons in his book ,My God, read: "Sometimes I feel like saying -- don't call me, I'll call you...." If I were a praying man I would say "save me from the party of god". A more selfish, bigoted bunch of Christians would be hard to find.

"Should prayer be politicized?" With the antics at Liberty University, I think we can see that prayer has been militarized. These obstructive bigots are using prayer as a weapon.

You are just now catching on to the fact that much of America's religious institutions have become owned by the Republican party? That's why my generation has no use for religion anymore. We correctly see it as a form of control, used to make the wealthy and powerful, well, more wealthy and powerful. When our major religions start caring about the poor, instead of electing R's and obsessing about gays, maybe we'll come back. We'll see... In the meantime, I'm with a poster above: Tax the churches!!!

Nanook here, from Canada. As all you Americans know - Canadians have been exposed in your endless health care debates (Why do you hate our health care system so much? It's ours, not yours. Develop your own, discuss among yourselves) - Canadians are nothing more than godless, socialist commies who (shudder) support one another with our universal health care system so that no one loses their life savings just because they get sick (radical concept to Americans, all this helping your fellow citizen stuff). As southern American Baptists will gleefully confirm, there are no Christians in Canada. We all marry each other, doncha know? Boys and boys, and girls and girls, and girls and boys...its sinful I tell you and God will surely smite us. So pray for Canadians...and pray for Canada...that we might see our way to the light and perhaps some day we can hope to be every bit as perfect as you American Christians are. Gotta go. It's my turn to slaughter the goat. The Northern Lights Gods demand a sacrifice and we must obey.

Jerry Faldwell can take his prayer and shove it. My god is Mother Nature, for lack of a better name. I have no use for the sadistic deity in the bible. I have no use for pseudo christians trying to shove their b.s. down my throat.

In my Church we sing ...God will force no man to Heaven./He'll call, persuade, direct aright,/And bless with wisdom, love, and light,/In nameless ways be good and kind,/But never force the human mind.

I thought I was tuning in to a good satire but this is not a joke! These people should pray for their own hypocrisy-laden souls. Listening to them, you might think that Jesus wandered Israel ceaselessly preaching the evils of health care reform, socialism, and the healing of people outside the model of private insurance. Republican Jesus is a curious figure. He preaches that only those with certain political views can be saved. He hasn't the slightest regard for the poor and feels that morality is solely the province of white patricians. Obama is bending over backwards to save their system of health insurance that lets thousands die every year for lack of coverage but Obama ends up as evil. Honestly the WP needs to at least TRY to be serious instead of treating the cult of Republican Jesus as something worthy of discussion

With all the important issues and the little press information we get about them, how does the post justify printing such drivel as this?

Jerry Faldwell can take his prayer and shove it. My god is Mother Nature, for lack of a better name. I have no use for the sadistic deity in the bible. I have no use for pseudo christians trying to shove their b.s. down my throat. -------------------------------- ROFL You have the freedom of choice to join or reject any church or religion you Choose. It's the Religion of Mother Nature that the liberals in Government forces down the throats of all Americans.

Praying for another person is relatively harmless. There are better uses of time, but at least they are not out buying and selling guns when praying.

Pray for those retarded fetuses...I mean Democrats.

Look. We have wars raging over various parts of our planet. We have people dying in floods, earthquakes, and tsunamis. We have pandemics and epidemics threatening us. We have droughts, floods, famine and plagues afflicting the poor all over the earth. Yet with all of this going on, we have this addled, fat, white, old right wing preacher who never faced a day without a gluttonous meal, urging his dimwitted flock s of sheep to pray for what? As though liberals were on a par with people who really do need God to intervene to save them from the real threats they face every single day. This unimaginably stupid and partisan urging to pray for the souls of liberals as though some how liberlism was a disease or life threatening condition tells you all you need to know about the pathology of people who buy into the preposterous musings of this senile old fa#t!

How about - Adopt a religious conservative and teach him what Jesus preached. These "churches" are not really about religion as much a political and coporate power. Tax them!

Many think that prayer does not work; Jesus lost the ability to hear when his brain died. A correct orientation to reality is likely the best thing for a person and for society. Should action be taking to encourage those that pray to abandon the practice and do something constructive?

Is that "pray" or "prey"? Because the wingnuts sure seem to want to pray for the death of liberals. Some have even taken it upon themselves to kill them.

bug45... your post proves our point

They should pray for there own enlightenment!

"It gives hope to the one making the prayers. It causes no physical harm to the target of the prayers." That may be true, but it violates the principle of individual self-determination. The prayer is essentially praying to "fix" other people, like he or she knows what is best for them. That would be no different if liberals prayed for conservatives, or if Jews prayed for Christians. This isn't even remotely close to praying for the well-being of someone who is suffering.

I suspect that the true motive behind Falwell's pray plan is to benefit his own organization by unifying his followers and making them feel as if they are doing something good.

EKIM53, I have been in and out of schools, Universities, state and private colleges, public schools of all kinds all my life. ____________________________________ So what do you think about the elementary schools now that are forcing the kids to sing Obama songs? During the Bush administration there were numerous teachers bashing Bush, ON RECORDINGS. My son comes home from school telling me which teachers preach the liberal lines, ONLY. I taught in a school that was preaching AGW passionately without even considering the information on the other side. I had a college professor that would not allow recordings of his lectures and preceded to extol the virtues of communism while bashing Capitalism. Comparing notes with others, there were more profs that did the same. Bill Ayers a Left wing Bomber is allowed to spew his crap at a University and edit text books? WAKE UP! I know many people just like you that walk through life talking but not listening and oblivious to everything around them. Maybe you listen to, too many left wing sources. They will never play the recordings of their own, spewing their propaganda.

"It's the Religion of Mother Nature that the liberals in Government forces down the throats of all Americans." Yes, I admit it. I'm part of the Conspiracy to Forcibly Convert Americans to Nature Worship. Seriously... Neo-Pagans and nature-based religious make up less than 1% of the population. So, why all of the fear about us? Are you afraid that your Stepford Wives will be exposed to us wild women who believe in equality, and refuse to submit to our husband's authority? Here's a thought... why don't you try praying for the people in Samoa, Indonesia, The Philippines, and Vietnam, who are REALLY suffering and dying right now!

"How about - Adopt a religious conservative and teach him what Jesus preached. These "churches" are not really about religion as much a political and coporate power. Tax them!" I'm with this person! I totally believe in God but also am a progressive (or liberal, as the case may be). I'm sick of the conservatives trying to co-op religion for their own political and corporate purposes, especially when so much of this stuff is just astroturf financed by corporatists who are the ones really plotting to take over the country. My prayer for the conservatives "on Main Street", as it were, is that the power of prayer will open their eyes to the vision of seeing how they are being used to promote the corporate takeover of the world, not just the United States. Remember George Bush the Elder and his New World Order?

Why should anybody pray for somebody else without his/hers permition? Isn't it a violation of privacy. What if the "wishes" are not welcome by the subject? It sounds like Voodoo to me.

Pray for a liberal? Yes, liberalism is a horrible affliction and I will pray for its cure. In just 8 months it has Quadrupled the deficit, put more Americans in bondage to a much bigger intrusive and incompetent government, mortgaged our future, laid heavy tax burden on us and our kids, will cause hyper inflation that will steal money from all Americans, kill businesses especially the small businesses, pushed the tax break even day further toward December(its ultimate goal)....yes, I will pray. Who is that Saint that intercedes in hopeless cases?

Just as we have a superficial, external mask which we put together with words and actions that do not fully represent all that is in us, so even believers deal with a God who is made up of words, feelings, reassuring slogans, and this is less the God of faith than the product of religious and social routines. Such a "God" can become a substitute for the truth of the invisible God of faith, and though this comforting image may seem real to us, he is really a kind of idol. His chief function is to protect us against a deep encounter with our true inner self and with the true God. Thomas Merton. Love and Living. Naomi Burton Stone & Patrick Hart, editors (New York: Harcourt, Brace, Jonvanovich, 1985): 42.

So what do you think about the elementary schools now that are forcing the kids to sing Obama songs? -- Posted by: ekim53 The exact same thing I thought when elementary schools were forcing the kids to sing Bush songs; I see it as a way to get kids to respect the office of the President of the United States and otherwise I don't really care Since you're apparently only worked up about it now because the President is Obama your motivations are transparent and your objections invalid. As for your other accusations - you are making them up. You've never once bothered to supply any independent evidence backing up your paranoid-like claims and have demonstrated you are at most solely motivated by partisan hatred.

Ekim53 wrote: "In just 8 months it has Quadrupled the deficit, put more Americans in bondage to a much bigger intrusive and incompetent government, mortgaged our future, laid heavy tax burden on us and our kids, will cause hyper inflation that will steal money from all Americans, kill businesses especially the small businesses, pushed the tax break even day further toward December(its ultimate goal)....yes, I will pray." You have evidence for all of this? My taxes have not changed, and where were you when Bush took a surplus and gave it to the wealthy driving us into deep debt and deficits, then sat idly as Wall Street fleeced America and drove us close to a depression? Praising the wisdom of the Bush administration is my guess. Ekim53 wrote: "Who is that Saint that intercedes in hopeless cases?" That would be Saint Jude. One wonders how you, being a conservative who seems to be religious considering you plan to pray, did not know that and needed to find the answer from a godless liberal. But I'll leave that to you to ponder.

Jesus said remove the plank from your own eye first before you try to remove the speck from your brother's. I think Jesus was talking about all of us. Afterall, He created all of us and He knows how we are - bumps and all.

This is a joke, right? Religion by its nature is politicized. Instead of praying for liberals, so-called conservative religionists should be praying for themselves. They are the ones who see no difference between Rush Limbaugh and Jesus Christ.

Gee if it offends you to be PRAYED FOR without permission ... you should see what it probably feels like to be a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION without your permission.

It is very arrogant and hypocritical of the GOP to think they are more religious than the liberals and thus they should pray for the liberals. God hates arrogance and hypocrisy - thus perhaps the GOP should pray for themselves.

Gee if it offends you to be PRAYED FOR without permission ... you should see what it probably feels like to be a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION without your permission. Posted by: noHUCKABEEnoVOTE So you've got first-hand experience with this, do you? Tell us then, how did it feel?

If I knew that some right-wing nutbag was "praying" for me, I'd visit him with some friends and return the favor by giving him some free "chiropractic adjustments." American xtainity is the only real Satanism there is.

This is a joke, right? Religion by its nature is politicized. Instead of praying for liberals, so-called conservative religionists should be praying for themselves. They are the ones who see no difference between Rush Limbaugh and Jesus Christ. ___________________________________ You got that wrong Jack. Many Americans are just tired of throwing things at their TV screens because the leftist crap dominates mainstream news. Those Americans finally have someone that agrees with them. But, I do see liberals mistake Robin Hood for Jesus all the time.

GEEE NOw Libidiots want to tell people how to pray ... everyday they confirm what THINKERS have been trying to show us for decades LIBRALS REALLY ARE MENTALLY ILL.

" The Liberty Council, a nonprofit that defends religious liberties, is encouraging its supporters to "Adopt a Liberal" and "pray earnestly and intensely for them."" Ironic. As a liberal Christian, I believe in praying for the souls of right-wing movement conservatives. Given that they've built a perverted religion that has nothing to do with Christ--that in fact perverts the very core of Christ's message--they need all the prayer they can get. They quite literally worship the anti-Christ.

fr saynotoObama: >...Muslime – noun, somebody whose religion is islam. Just cut and pasted from my online dictionary and both are spelled correctly. Um, there is no "e" in Muslim.

It is very arrogant and hypocritical of the GOP to think they are more religious than the liberals _________________________ It is very arrogant and hypocritical for YOU to think that.

They need to pray for themselves, and really live the christian way, by caring for others and making sure that everybody has a decent life, instead of fighting against the Health Care Reform that is trying to provide a healthcare for everybody.

Let us pray to Jesus to protect our President and the rest of us from his followers here. Amen.

Well, bless their hearts! No thanks. PS: There is nothing "radical" about Obama. Good grief, get real the man has kept Bush's jails, signing statements and more. Do your homework instead of playing to your base.

It is really only conservatives who understand the very long-term issues that are devolving now, after the five thousand year struggle to reach the Moon. The issues date from pre-civilized concepts of God, and include factors from the time of construction of mounds of Peru and pyramids of Egypt, and the Asian Taoist emergence of chance and statistics to choose writing, instead of raw encounters with wild nature. The most responsive of the main long-term issues are devolving already. Confirmation and validation of the Moon flights by Orion and future expeditions, need to be timely and well interpreted if they are to integrate correctly during this still chaotic time and bring the whole epoch to the new planetary consciousness. Liberals are prone to acting on instinct and feeling and rarely take the historical record in account.

P L E A S E gimme a break. The conservative cable show guys spewed all kinds of lies and indignant anger about poor liberals praying for Obama to be successful. But now it is spiritually pure and patiotic for the religious right to pray that Obama what? Becomes a Republican? When will these people realize that their poop is not chocolate ice cream?

Reply to Carstonio: My hope is that in 2012 the "normal Republicans" will form a "Bull Moose Party" and permit the likes of Meghan McCain to lead the party where it needs to go: promoting free enterprise and entrepreneurship, as well as individual responsibility and choice (ie, abortion, religion, prayer, etc. is not the party's business, it's yours).

LIBIDIOTS would be funny if they were not so dangerous . Him :" YE-E-ES WE-E-E CA-A-AN "! Me: "Yes we can what " ? Him: "CHA-A-ANGE" ! Me: "Change what"? HIM: "...'unt...uh... I 'on't knowwww" Him: "OUR TI-I-IME H-A-AS CO-O-OME"!!! Me: "Who's time has come"? Him: "OURS ! Obamas gonna change things ... rearrange things "! Me: "Oh? what things?" Him: "The country stoopid "! Me: "You mean it's not the greatest country in the world ?" HIM: "NO ! ...The world HATES us !" Me: "WHO TOLD YOU THAT and why are they invading our borders to get here ? " Him: " unt... uh... I 'on't knowww

Report Offensive Comment So what do you think about the elementary schools now that are forcing the kids to sing Obama songs? -- Posted by: ekim53 The exact same thing I thought when elementary schools were forcing the kids to sing Bush songs; ________________________________________ ROFL, What Bush songs? BS The only Bush songs around were XXX spewed by the leftist. YOU LIE!

praying for someone who doesn't want you praying for them. Yechh. nosam32 2:06PM that was a really dumb post.

According to a recent Nicholas Kristof column, 18,000 Americans die each year because they don't have health insurance. Thousands more suffer. Yet conservatives, surely some of them "Christian" conservatives, fight health care reform. What would Jesus think? These conservatives need to pray for themselves. When judgement day comes and Jesus separates the sheep from the goats, those who have helped others from those who have not (Matthew 25), I don't see today's conservatives faring very well.

"It's the Religion of Mother Nature that the liberals in Government forces down the throats of all Americans." Yes, I admit it. I'm part of the Conspiracy to Forcibly Convert Americans to Nature Worship. Seriously... Neo-Pagans and nature-based religious make up less than 1% of the population. So, why all of the fear about us? _______________________________________ FEAR? No, fear here. Just don't want your left wing crap religion forced down the throats of Americans. Unfortunately your religion is cloaked in wacko environmentalism, not environmentalism but wacko environmentalism.

Would these be some of the same folks who prayed the Obama be defeated? If so then I guess the answer to that prayer was no. God knows peoples hearts.

Great! A bunch of folks who quite literally worship the anti-Christ praying for liberals. Good stuff!

These wolves in shepherd's clothing need to pray for forgiveness of their many, many social sins, including the hijacking of Christianity.

As a political liberal AND an Evangelical Christian, I regularly pray for my mislead conservative brothers and sisters. The gospel of hate spread by conservative Christian "leaders" stands in direct opposition to everything Christ taught.

I'm praying for those who pray. I can't wait until someone had the courage to run on a political ticket as an atheist or agnostic. I'm praying that people will stop believing in fairy tales and voo doo. I'm also praying for those who claim to be Christ like yet are the most viral people I know. I'm praying for the pro-lifer who will not adopt a child unless they are white and 1 day old. I'm praying for those against single payer systems that they end up bankrupt and begging for meds just like they want everyone else too. I'm praying for the CEO's who need 1 billion to run a company in the ground. I'm parying that the revolution starts at his house. I'm praying for those who can't think for themselves and just listen to the lies the extreme right tells them. The only thing to fear is the white man, with a bank roll that tells you to fear Muslims. I'll praying for the souls of those who willingly kill innocent civilians in other countries all in the name of god or oil. I'll keep praying for the Christians, Jews, Muslims and so forth that they can the self esteem and knowledge to understand that all organized religion does is make you afraid of something and forces you to give money at every turn. I'll be praying that someday you are all set free from the burden of god.

The crazed members of the Liberty council better get down on their knees and start praying for their own souls. Their public utterances, their thoughts, and their deeds go against all the principles of Christianity. They are condemning themselves to hell. These people seem to think that they decided they were born again, they automatically received a get-out-of-hell-free card, so they can be just as mean-spirited as they want, and can even incite people to commit murder. This is why organized religion is dying in the West. Educated and intelligent people don't buy into this garbage anymore. Only the ignorant and fearful still allow themselves to be fooled by hucksters like Pat Robertson and his ilk.

Political religion is vile. That is why our nation's founding fathers decried it. That is also why the constitution forbids the State to establish religion. Read up on Thomas Jefferson's opinions on the subject. The religious fundamentalists who wish to change that do so each day by melding politics and religion. It should be illegal. Oh wait - it already is.

"...progressive (some would say liberal)..." But I, David Waters, say "progressive' because it's politically correct and Jon and Sally and I know that America is on to us liberals so we had to change what we call ourselves. We started doing this a few years back and even got some Republicans fooled into thinking we wanted to be bipartisan, post-political and post-racial. Well, you of course will note that I, David Waters, provided here for you folks the diametrically opposed "Christ-like" compassion and "Rush-like" condescension, i.e. it may or may not be Christ-like for Liberty to ask for prayer, but we all agree that Rush is evil, now don't we? Rave on, Mr. Waters.

rooster9 said: I would welcome conservatives praying for me. Maybe in the process they will find that their own hearts will be changed. Pray often and hard! Peace Excellent point!

This is (pray for liberal) wasn't so @nal, it would be laughable...

Think about it: Christians, Jews, Muslims all take refuge in a god who describes himself as "jealous". "I am a jealous god." We're taught that this is a good thing but it really is one of the worst things I can imagine. Taking refuge in a jealous god makes you just as much of a weasel as YAHWEH is. YAHWEH threatens your children, threatens you, is suspicious of you, accuses you of all manner of evil. It's no wonder that Christians are argumentative, hateful, accusatory, judgmental, suspicious types. That's what they believe in. That's what they cherish. Christians are suffering beings. They have no peace except to subdue their enemies. They have no sense of goodness except to kill everything they think is bad. Christians have no room in their heads or hearts for anything that isn't just like them. It's not just the poor deluded evangelicals. It's also the mainstream liberals. They're all like that. Include the Jews and the Muslims. Nothing is worth anything to any of them if it doesn't include subduing the rest of us or anyone who isn't them.

FEAR? No, fear here. Just don't want your left wing crap religion forced down the throats of Americans. Unfortunately your religion is cloaked in wacko environmentalism, not environmentalism but wacko environmentalism. Posted by: ekim53 So how many pictures do you have now in your shrine to McVeigh, domestic terrorist boy?

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rooster9 said: I would welcome conservatives praying for me. Maybe in the process they will find that their own hearts will be changed. Pray often and hard! Peace -------------- The use of the words "conservative" and "heart" in the same sentence is an oxymoron.

FEAR? No, fear here. Just don't want your left wing crap religion forced down the throats of Americans. Unfortunately your religion is cloaked in wacko environmentalism, not environmentalism but wacko environmentalism. Posted by: ekim53 So how many pictures do you have now in your shrine to McVeigh, domestic terrorist boy? __________________________________________ ROFL, what does the nut case McVeigh have to do with anything? Everybody is glad he was caught and put to death. Do you have a point other than the one that's on you head...

The arrogance and disassociation from actual reality of these so called conservatives is mind boggeling to me.

"FEAR? No, fear here. Just don't want your left wing crap religion forced down the throats of Americans. Unfortunately your religion is cloaked in wacko environmentalism, not environmentalism but wacko environmentalism." Look! Another right-wing "Christian"!

Shove that prayer where the sun don't shine. A Liberal p.s If you want to pray for something, pray for the Republicans; they are on the verge of extinction. p.p.s On second thought, don't bother. p.p.p.s Dope

Posted by: demtse | October 1, 2009 12:38 PM Report Offensive Comment FEAR? No, fear here. Just don't want your left wing crap religion forced down the throats of Americans. Unfortunately your religion is cloaked in wacko environmentalism, not environmentalism but wacko environmentalism. Posted by: ekim53 So how many pictures do you have now in your shrine to McVeigh, domestic terrorist boy? __________________________________________ ROFL, what does the nut case McVeigh have to do with anything? Everybody is glad he was caught and put to death. Do you have a point other than the one that's on you head... BTW, the left celebrates the terrorists bombers like Bill Ayers and ALLOWS THEM TO TEACH THE YOUTH AND EDIT TEXT BOOKS.

HIlarious and who cares? Let them pray. Let them be stupid and laughable.

Wow, talk about hate filled rhetoric. It continues to amaze me how vitriolic some people are of those who practice a religion. Why get so riled up? I forgive those who hate me for what I stand for, even though you don’t know me, only because I am religious. What I find as odd is that you feel offended, but have no concern that your vicious thoughts put into words posted on the internet might offend those of us who are religious. I will pray for those of you filled with that venomous spirit and may you be granted peace.

(1) ZZZzzz. Listening to believers and non-beleivers shout at each other is about as interesting as a tooth cleaning. (2) Tax the churches.

BTW, the left celebrates the terrorists bombers like Bill Ayers and ALLOWS THEM TO TEACH THE YOUTH AND EDIT TEXT BOOKS. -- Posted by: ekim53 Ayers didn't directly kill anyone with his bombs and THAT's why you keep your little McVeigh shrine; to serve as an inspiration so that when you finally overcome your inherent cowardness you'll do it right. You are truly the worst kind of freak.

It may seem condescending to liberals who don't believe in God, however, Christians do take understand and take seriously the power that our nations "leaders" have... What's wrong with praying for them? So the call for prayer was put on the web... We've been praying for our government leaders for ages. It's not much different.

Don't you wonder why God created all of those liberals in the first place? Maybe He did so in order to provide a true test the ability of the Religious Right to show compassion and love for all of His creations.

Posted by: kwells1 | October 1, 2009 12:52 PM Report Offensive Comment (1) ZZZzzz. Listening to believers and non-beleivers shout at each other is about as interesting as a tooth cleaning. (2) Tax the churches. _______________________________ Triple the Taxes on Obama voters. They're the ones that want Obama's government diapers for life...call it a Users Fee...

Those delusional Christian talibans should thank their god for the dact they can enjoy freedom of speech despite their ludicrous beliefs. They are lucky we still tolerate them. These guys genuinely think that Jesus rode a dinosaur and yet they are taken seriously. Only in America...

Someone should pray that these mental midgets stop perpetuating the superstitions and rituals of cavemen. This is the 21st century. Time to put away these inane fairy tales and face reality. THERE ARE NO IMAGINARY SKY DADDIES!!!! THE EARTH IS NOT FLAT !!!! And your ignorant hatred does nothing to help our world. In fact your ignorant hatred is responsible for the vast amount of suffer mankind has had to endure throughout history.

JESUS OF NAZARETH LOOKED A *LOT* MORE LIKE OSAMA BIN LADEN THAN RONALD REAGAN. ________________________ It doesn't matter but Jesus was a Jew. That's for all the anti Semites that spew their gibberish here. --------------------------- LIMITED PERSPECTIVE is the trademark of what passes as a Republican these days. The Jews were Arabs, most likely Canaanites. Jesus was one of them. Does that help you? At the age of 18 I was ready to fight with God's chosen people. Now I am ready for Iran to have the bomb so there may finally be peace in the Middle East in my lifetime. WHY DO YOU PEOPLE SO EASILY IGNORE THE NEW TESTAMENT AND FUEL YOUR FEAR AND HATE BASED ON THE OLD? HOW IS IS THAT YOU SOUTHERN BAPTIST AND OTHER INTRINSICALLY PREJUDICE, HATE FILLED RELIGIONS SO EASILY IGNORE THE SIMPLICITY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT AND JESUS'S WORDS, SUCH AS WARNINGS THAT THE CLERGY OF HIS DAY WOULD GO INTO HELL BEFORE ANYONE ELSE?

Hilarious. "I'll pray for you" is a standard passive-aggressive insult among right-wing Christian types.

When JESUS separates the "sheep from the goats" ... don't take for granted that YOU will be called a "SHEEP" if you forced everyone to pay for your health care and the tortured deaths of unborn babies ... It sure isn't YOU that contributes to HUMAN RIGHTS and health ...and ESPECIALLY when you can afford T.V. , CELL PHONES , SMOKES , BEER AND CONDOMS ( if you are even conscious enough to use them and prevent FURTHER misery to your poverty) ... Just because OBAMA issues a LICENSE TO STEAL , doesn't mean JESUS did. The CHURCHES have been sending food and medical help to the poor for many many years ... NOT just here but around the world. " DIE QUICKLY " ...REPUBLICAN PLAN ???? nno no no... That is exactly what YOU DEMS will practice to support your " SPREAD THE WEALTH " mentality and your folly when you have to steal from those that EARN ... to give to those who PLAY and then go chop at unborn babies or babies 1/2 pulled from the womb and struggling for the HUMAN RIGHTS that you say all people should have .

JMCCAS- YOU ARE the ..." PLANK" ... in our own eye !

Great News Liberals! Sarah Palin's book is already #1. You can hear the sounds at the New York Slime and Barnes and Noble. The sounds of their panties tightly wadding and crushing their little ACORNS.... Damn, she got a 7 million dollar advance and way too many speaking engagements to fulfill. Wow, that doesn't sound so dumb to me...just jealous libs

The irony of a "LIBERty Council" praying for "LIBERals" is enough to send anyone aware of the etymology of the English language apoplectic with gales of laughter or trails of tears. There is, however, a bright side. The simple inanity and thoughtlessness of such actions are truly alienating younger Americans. With any luck, such evil politicizations of religion will eventually marginalize the politicizers. It is OBVIOUS one subject not taught at Liberty University is European history. If it were, they would understand that the REASON for Europe being as secular as it is today, is nothing less that the endless politicization of religion. Europe is way ahead of the curve than America on this one.

Posted by: brattykathyi1 | October 1, 2009 1:01 PM Report Offensive Comment JESUS OF NAZARETH LOOKED A *LOT* MORE LIKE OSAMA BIN LADEN THAN RONALD REAGAN. ________________________ It doesn't matter but Jesus was a Jew. That's for all the anti Semites that spew their gibberish here. --------------------------- LIMITED PERSPECTIVE is the trademark of what passes as a Republican these days. The Jews were Arabs _________________________________________ Yes, and the moon is really green cheese.

Grassely: "eliminate $7 billion a year in fees that the government would charge private health insurance companies, and make up the shortfall by reducing benefits to poor people and legal immigrants. It was dangerously close to a parody: Republicans demanding that fees be reduced on a profitable industry and shifted to low-income Americans. But Grassley pressed on..." G(reedy)OP if corporations don't earn obscene profits, how will the GOP be funded? Conservatives should pray for themselves and G(reedy)OP politicians to *End their protection of corporate greed and cronyism. The G(reedy)OP agenda has never been Christian, there is no interest in the poor or voiceless, they represent corporations and polluters. Where were they when bush/cheney started their preemptive war for oil and obscene corporate profits, polluted the enviroment, tortured and trampled the constitution?

Twisted truth and pure hatred stream from the far right propaganda machine and thier church pulpits - so their prayers for those liberals who hate their evil behavior will go unanswered.

Fine! I can use all the prayers I can get.

nohuckabeenovote.... Your posts are so full of rage and hate, you shouldn't be so quick to look for the judgement you believe is coming

I think that often problems arise when people believe they have arrived at truth, rather than seeing that as a lifelong journey. This frequently occurs with religion - some believe that all that is to be revealed has already been revealed and there is no room for new understanding of the tenants of their faith. Perhaps if more Christians, more conservatives, and more liberals could recognize that they may not currently know all there is to know they could find ways to be somewhat less insufferable.

These people remind me of the homeless dude who was giving me parenting tips the other day. Condescending to an absurd degree.

Oh for heaven's sake - do we have to hear about every little move the conservatives make. Stop with all the ink. Let 'em pray, not pray, dance, not dance, hop, skip or jump. Enough already. Although . . . considering how weak this Democratic Supermajority appears to be maybe Divine Intervention is just what they need. Goodness knows having a majority isn't helping.

ekim53 wrote: "ROFL, What Bush songs? BS The only Bush songs around were XXX spewed by the leftist. YOU LIE!" No, YOU LIE: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/17/katrina-song/ In April 2006 kids from the gulf coast came to the white house and sang the following, which I'm sure they were instructed to do: Our country’s stood beside us People have sent us aid. Katrina could not stop us, our hopes will never fade. Congress, Bush and FEMA People across our land Together have come to rebuild us and we join them hand-in-hand! I can think of nothing sicker than forcing kids to sing the praises of those who abandoned them in their time of great need.

You know, if you really want to learn about true hatred, all you have to do is read the comments printed here from the Christians. Christians do hatred better than anyone else, and they're damned proud of it too. Makes me want to go to hell just to get away from them. Please, please pray for me to go directly to hell without even an ounce of hope that I would ever have to spend eternity with Christians.

No, YOU LIE: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/17/katrina-song/ In April 2006 kids from the gulf coast came to the white house and sang the following, which I'm sure they were instructed to do: -- FATE1 Sssshhhhh FATE1, don't confuse the child with facts! You so mean! Why you have to be so mean?

I find that I love God, not because of church but in spite of it. Things like this are why.

The question is, who are they going to pray to? The God of War? The God of Wealth and Privilege? The God of Laissez Faire? Or perhaps the God of half-truths and false witness. Certainly not the Jesus who had total disdain for consumer goods, saying,"I am not about this world" and "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's". The same Jesus who espoused "turn the other cheek", "Am I not my brothers keeper?" and "for I was the poorest of the poor".

I'm a liberal, and I don't want your damned prayers!!

I think it is the height of arrogance that these so-called "christian" do-gooders have the audacity to pray for liberals, as if they are chosen with some power and righteousness that emanates from a nythical almighty God. Kindly keep religion and politics separate. Ours is a secular nation. Do your praying at home and in your churches. Remember, not everyone in this country is Christian or even wants to be one. There is freedom of religion and freedom from religion. Accept it and let's move on to more important issues of debate.

As a Christian and a liberal, I have no problem at all with conservatives who "pray that the Lord would move upon [liberals] and cause them to be the kind of leaders who will encourage others to lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence." I will gladly make the same prayer for them, and I'm sorry that their prayers are "tongue in cheek". As C.S. Lewis said, prayers do not change God, they change the person who prays. So here's hoping their prayers, insincere though they may be, are beneficial.

Mightysparrow,you're a complete idiot.you don't what you're talking about.If Obummer gets his way this country will go to hell. They need to take the ACLU and send to Iran or China and see how long they last. I'm a disabled Vet, and I'm 68 years old and I've seen what people like Obummer can do. Read your history about Carter. Another idiot that almost gave this country away.

"...the Republican Party, which is supposed to represent the free market and personal choice, not imposing religious beliefs on people." As a dirty, godless heathen (and lawyer to boot) I say amen, Carlotino. Give me a Republican party that stands for those principles and divorces itself from the religious trainwreck that is the christian right and I'll vote for it.

I can't support anyone who is not with me 100% in his views on The Manichean Heresey.

If Christian fundamentalists need suggestions for prayers here are a few: - Pray for the children abused by priests. - Pray that priests find a conscience and stop raping young boys. - Pray for people to use condoms. - Pray for all the people who die of AIDS because of the Catholic church oppostion to condoms, especially in Africa. - Pray for Universal Health Care so that children brought into this world because someone did not use contraception have decent health care - Pray for the children who have lost parents because of the political right's affiliation with the NRA and their devotion to free guns for every one. - Pray for decent schools that teach science and knowledge instead of creation and blind faith - Pray for the end of irrational thoughts and phobia. - And, perhaps more importantly, pray for enlightment, so that politicians and the public at large may be guided in their decision making by justice, equality, and the good of all instead of empty rethorics and theology.

NOHUCKABEENOVOTE, You are one sick, twisted individual.

Hello: Keep in mind that WWII German foot soldiers wore a belt buckle that said "Gott Mit Uns" God with us. Anyone can claim this; few have it so; and no declared christian would know for sure given the doctrine of original sin. Let them pray and reveal themselves as they are: delusional even in their attempts at humor. ps. Remember the Gospel of Matthew and the sermon on the mount: let people pray in private that they are not hyprocrits.

Someone is more than willing to pray for me. Although I'm still going to be a gay marriage-supporting, abortion-tolerating, Jerry Fallwell-hating liberal when it's all said and done.

THE RIGHT IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE, RELIGIOUSLY AND POLITICALLY. THEY LIVE IN AN IMAGINARY WORLD FULL OF EVIL TRYING TO DEFEAT GOOD, AND PREVAILING. THUS THEY HAVE NO FAITH IN GOD (GOOD), NO FAITH IN THEIR MESSIAH, NO FAITH IN MAN AND NO FAITH IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THEY HAVE NO FAITH, NO SIR, NOT LIKE THE AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE SHOWN THROUGH GENERATIONS OF TORTUROUS ABUSE AT THEIR HANDS. NO SIR. THEY HAVE NO SUCH FAITH. THE SINS OF THE FATHER ARE VISITED UPON THEIR SONS. IT IS WE THAT PRAY FOR YOU.

Most of these so-called Christians are really idolaters, bowing down to the golden calf of unrestrained capitalism and (ironically) social-darwinist indifference to the plight of their fellow men, women and children. My prediction is that when Gawd comes to earth to collect her children, she's gonna kick some right-wing @$$ bigtime.

To answer the question on the home page, no, prayer shouldn't be politicized, but that horse was let out of the barn a long time ago (1980, to be precise). You can't stop "them" from doing so. So don't waste constructive energy trying.

Religion is BS, because there is no god. Realize that, and your true spirit will be liberated. There isn’t some supernatural being pulling strings that control everything that happens. God was invented by ignorant savages to explain the inexplicable, and to let people off the hook for their own stupid actions.

18% of Americans believe the Sun revolves around the earth. Go figure.

Excuse me, but perhaps a little less patronizing attitude would go further than your "snake oil" display of "compassion". Lots of folks see right through your "mythology" of Christianity. What's more, they've decided there's something better than this petty prayer stunt. It's not compassion you seek to demonstrate as much as a coercion of people's minds, and good luck with that "miracle". It doesn't work so good on liberals, because we generally don't beleive in this whole "miracle" thing. Yeah, like God impregnating Mary. Get a grip, loons.

The arrogance of these misguided individuals would make even Jesus blush! They care not a wit for the homeless blaming this scourge on laziness and sloth. They block the entrance at women's clinics, scream "baby killer" at them and then if they persuade a woman to carry a child to term, they turn their backs on them both! Once a child is born it is on it's own and of course, no decent education and no proper "socialized" healthcare. There is, however, plenty of "socialized" medicine for the members of congress paid for by the taxpayers. That does not seem to arouse their Christian ire! They have no problem sending young Americans to their death in far off places if it will spread the "word" or protect Israel until the "second coming". These hypocrites are nothing more than control freaks who believe women should be under the heel of men and they alone ( right wing, Republican, evangelical Christians ) will inherit "heaven". I can understand why this primordial ideology would appeal to men but why would women buy into this sophomoric claptrap. Whenever I am confronted with these poor benighted souls I hear the voice of my compassionate, Christian grandmother when she would forcefully declare, "spare me the self self-righteous".

I think its more important to pray for a neo-con - like Sarah. God Help Her find her way...and all those that think she's the Savior.

Go ahead and pray. Just remember that sometimes God says no. It's sort of like the Supreme Court deciding not to hear a case. And by the way, remember to pray for Vikings to beat the Packers.

Sen. Olympia Snowe from Maine should be the Repulican Party's female presidential choice in 2012---she has the experience and the intelligence. Sarah Palin was a horrific mistake and should stick to selling AVON.

Hey as long as they are no longer shooting liberals, tying them to fence posts and leaving them to die, or yelling at them at funerals, the crazies can pray for me all they want.

For people like ekim53 their single-minded hatred of the liberals puts them into a position of supporting these jerry falwell christian fanatics. How's that feel mikey? I'm not a big fan of the liberals either, but I don't hate them, ignoring them seems to work well enough for me. But you have to support these right wing morons in order to maintain your hatred. Not only are the liberals beating you and your kind right now, but the thinking conservative has to support the mindless religious fanatic in order to maintain some sense of power. What a bunch of suckers you are for that.

Hey, sorry, just got in. I was busy praying all morning. Did I miss anything happening in the real world while I was out?!?!

I see a lot of hatred and intolerance here, from both sides. I have read that "prayer enlarges the heart", however, I'd like to point out that it has to be sincere and not self-serving. Meaning, that you can't pray that your enemy ceases his "wicked ways". Prayer really should be reflecting inward, asking for revelations of your own inadequacies, not to change the perceived inadequacies of others. I honestly do believe that an atheist can live a moralistic life, much so more than one who professes a religion. Jesus' message was not only one of forgiveness, but as he stated to the prostitute who had escaped stoning - go forth and sin no more. I see many "canned" Christians - they go to church on Sunday, and believe what is told to them, on the face of it. They believe they are "saved", but go and act like however they want, believing that Jesus is their "get out of jail" card. Well, I truly believe that for it to work, one has to be sincere and true in your heart about it. Going to Church on Sunday doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing inside a garage for two hours makes you a car. Who died and left Jerry Falwell in charge of Christianity, anyway?

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:17-21).

The beauty of prayer is that God often says "no." It's similar to the Supreme Court deciding to not hear a case. I suppose the people praying are the same ones who prayed for McCain and Palin in November. How effectively did they pray then? But if you are going to pray, please pray for the Vikings to beat the Packers this weekend.

These republican fools were unable to protect the US from 9/11, then they sent 1000's of US soldiers to death for an illegal war in Irak, selling out your country to China to finance this unjustified, evil bloodbath. Because of them the whole world will always doubt about America's real motivations ( domination of freedom or freedom to dominate?).They are just incompetent and dangerous freaks living in Cuckoo-land. As a foreigner I can tell you that when Obama was elected, the whole world was relieved to see that USA were not a fascist nation.

This is the thing that sticks in my craw about "conservative" Christians: the wilfull blindness to the fact that those who live in glass houses . . . . Pray for yourselves. Pray that Jesus keeps one hand on your shoulder, and the other across your mouths. It's the presumption; the sanctimony; the hypocrisy. When your house is in order - and you are perfect - then start worrying about other people. Voltaire said it best: The best you can do really is tend your own garden. But then Voltaire was part of the Enlightenment. "Conversative Christian" and "enlightenment" are sadly oxymorons.

I guess it's a tiny improvement given that for most of the last 2,000 years these so-called "conservative Christians" have mass-murdered anyone who didn't agree with them, including Jews, Muslims and their fellow Christians.

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:17-21). POSTED BY: LIBERALSAREBLIND | OCTOBER 1, 2009 3:52 PM REPORT OFFENSIVE COMMENT ------------------------------- SOUNDS REAL GOOD REPUBLICANSAREINSANE, BUT YOU FORGOT THE PART WHERE YOU SHOW UTTER CONTEMPT FOR YOUR COMMAND-IN-CHIEF, KILL VIETNAMESE AND IRAQIS BY THE MILLIONS AND MURDER DOCTORS WHILE THEY ARE ATTENDING CHURCH. QUOTING A MAN DOES NOT MAKE YOU LIKE HIM.

"Adopt a Liberal"? How utterly condescending! It's like the Bible thumpers that are against Gay marriage; they "hate" the sin, not the sinner. Be all nicey, meanwhile condemning them for being who they are. How reprehensible.

Sad to say, I don't think prayer will help liberals. The only thing that can help is for them to read voraciously, struggle, and looks at all sides of an issue critically, all the while thinking through each one of their impulsive urges.

excuse me, I meant "look at all sides"

How about if the Christian right prays for itself. They could start by actually reading Jesus's Sermon on the Mount, which begins "Blessed are the poor." It also says "Blessed are the peacemakers." I see no evidence that the right wing gives two hoots about the poor. Otherwise, they'd be in favor of health care reform. Nor do they wish to be peacemakers. Otherwise, they'd encourage the Republicans in Congress to try to work with the Dems on health care. I'm just appalled at the hypocricy of people who think they need to pray for those who don't agree with them.

Iintgrty, what doyou mean by "impulsive urges"?

Hunter Thompson said, "When the going gets weird the Weird turn pro..." In this case the religious right has now become professionally weird. To me, a liberal is tolerant, balanced, has a larger world view, has respect for the opinion of others and rejects the notion at they are in a cultural war with the likes of Phyllis Schlafly and Janet Porter. We liberals are in no need of their phony prayers and see through their demagoguery. It is my hope that a thoughtful and knowledgeable electorate will keep these people at the extreme outer edge of political influence.

MICHELLEKINP - YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT OF CHRISTS MESSAGE. I see many "CANNED " phony and POMPOUS sinners in all kinds of organizations ... not just CHURCH . The Bible tells you that "ABRAHAM (((BELIEVED GOD))) AND IT was accounted to him for righteousness" Do you think GOD would have sent " HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON" if CHIRST was not willing to pay the price once and for all ? Do you think ANYONE would be willing to REPENT from sin had there not been a HISTORIC PERFECT SACRIFICE AND RECORD OF MIRACLES to show that it was not just a book of WORDS ? DO YOU THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE REDEMPTION IF HE HAD NOT ? When CHRIST was crucified , it was to pay for YOUR CHANCE 2,000 yrs later to repent learn for yourself that he is real and he IS who he says he is . HE GAVE YOU the chance ... you didn't give it to him. If you were to be the ONLY one ... he would have STILL done it all ... just to buy YOUR freedom from eternal damnation. He KNEW THAT EVERYONE was not going to be willing to repent and seek him ... but he didn't do it for the ones that WON'T ... he did it for the ones that WILL. If you keep trying to measure PEOPLES righteousness to prove him ... you'll be SADLY mistaken to count on that because in the WHO-O-OLE BIBLE there is not one perfect CHURCH. The Bible even tells you nobody is righteous except CHRIST .... " THERE'S NONE RIGHTOUS .... NO, NOT ONE " . Go see if you can find a perfect person in the Bible. ABRAHAM had his wife LIE so that he wouldn't get killed in a strange Town NONE were perfect. CHRIST didn't come to ...((( CHANGE ))) the world because he knows human nature ... If that were possible , don't you think it would have happened with ADAM AND EVE ? OR after the flood ? ADAM AND EVE couldn't even be perfect . He didn't come for them that will NOT believe ... he came for those that will . Don't put all your eggs in OBAMA's basket .

Wow. Not much point to adding to this zzzz-inducing repetition, although the posts from ajaxas ("barking wing dingoes" - sweet!) and kimberly2601 were refreshing. Pointless, but - QUESTION: when will the Republican Party draw a boundary? There ARE wing-dings on the left, too - the anarchists, the wilder PETA supporters, the Earth-Firsters, etc. But I do not see the Democratic Party embracing and extolling them - whereas Michael Steele, RNC Chairman, calls Rush Limbaugh (who compares an African-American President to Hitler - mix your memes there, dude!) - a "national conservative leader." The beauty of a two-party system is that it can weed out "fringe" groups with their weird consensus realities which are impervious to facts and reason. Beginning with Reagan, the GOP stopped doing that, and it's just gotten worse. I know conservatives who are not happy with the GOP, but they nevertheless continue to listen to Rush and Bill All-Riled-Up and the lot. They draw no boundaries - nothing is too loony to be allowed in, no utterances are too much, accuracy and civility are not required, and name-calling either is a valid argument against something or just "funny." Is there still a "mainstream" in this country? A group of people who can say, "I like that Democrat, but I also like that Republican?" A group of people who can look at our health care system and say, "Yes, it stinks. But I don't have the knowledge to solve the problem and I hope that our representatives can?" (Humility - imagine that!) A group of people who reject theocracy as both un-Christian and un-American? I think they exist, but they don't make news. And they are too quiet. Where are the anti-theocracy conservatives?! Where are the conservatives who reject the ugly, inaccurate rhetoric of those who claim to speak for you? Let's hear from you! (Thank you to the anti-theocracy, anti-bigotry Christians - you are speaking out. Keep it up! More! Louder! Get your pastors to speak out too!)

I'm glad to hear that some conservatives are talking about prayer, rather than fear, violence, guns, revolutions, and military coups. We need all the prayers we can get!

It also says "Blessed are the peacemakers." ... -- Posted by: krhoades1 /me scratches out "cheesemakers" in his annotated bible and puts in "peacemakers". Thanks. It doesn't scan as well though.

What will they do when all those prayers don't convert President Obama and all those other trashy liberals into their brand of conservatives? Will that cause a crisis of faith?

When will Americans stop being obsessed with themselves??. If we all want to test the power of prayer let us all set aside a day to pray for the nearly one billion people on planet earth who do not have clean drinking water?. The results should be easy to measure.

Praying for a "liberal" because the person is a "liberal" is nonsense. The Bible teaches that we should pray for our leaders. It makes no distinction. Conservatives, who take a "legalistic" approach to religion and pray for "liberals," are hypocrites. It is better that we all learn to live by the Golden Rule. Prayer in the proper context can then be meaningful and beneficial. Heaven help those who try to use prayer as a means of showing how spiritual they are.

Let's not forget the conservative Christian who lied to us all and sent thousands of our citizens to death and caused tens of thousands more to be injured - the lying coward George W. Bush. If you hypocrites want to pray for someone, pray for the people who lost their fathers, sons, wives, daughters, etc. who were sent to look for WMD. Or was it the Bush family doing the Saudi's dirty work because of the debt the Bush's owed them. This is just another propaganda strategy from the hypocrites who try to attach stigmas to wanting to save the earth and not kill people. What a disgusting bunch!!!!

Conservative ,right-wing Christians scare me just as much as mad muslim fanatics. Church should keep it's dirty, bloody hands out of politics. Fallwell and his disgusting ilk should be put on the "terrorist" list as far as I an concerned. It starts with the murder of an abortion doctor, and I have no idea where these mad fairy-tale believers end up in their intolerant zealotism...

It is amazing that during a recession and while facing an uncertain future, there are still people who would give money to these modern-day snake-oil salespeople. Like the previous generation of mullahs, these scam artists, horndogs and closet cases represent mental regressive and internal turmoil. Let us wish that there are caves that have room enough for them. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

THESE PEOPLE NEED TO START DYING. IT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY ARE EVER GOING TO GO AWAY. ASHES TO ASHES, DUST TO DUST, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MUST IN TIME SIMPLY CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE JUST AIN'T BUYING THEIR CRAP ANY MORE.

That's OK; religious liberals are already praying that the Talibangelist crowd will someday come to understand the true meaning of Christ's life and works.

It strikes me that no one like Pat Robertson or a Falwell-wannabe cited the floods in Georgia as an example of God's punishment. Of course, if it's in the Bible Belt, God didn't really mean to make a disaster.

The American Heritage Dictionary of The English Language: Liberal: "...free from bigotry..."; "Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded."; "Tending to give freely, generous..." Liberalism: "A political theory founded on the natural goodness of human beings and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority." Yes, I would like a conservative racist bigot, who does not favor reform, nor open-minded to new ideas or progress, nor tolerant of others and who does not give freely nor generously; and one who does not believe in the goodness of human beings; who does not favor civil and political liberties nor government by law with consent of the governed and twice voted for Bush and Cheney who gave us 8 years of "arbitrary authority"; and who support those who yell out "death to the liberals" and "death to Obama" our elected President (a very Christian thing to do)......Yes I would like one of you self proclaimed conservatives to adopt me and pray for my soul, however, you should also pray for your own hateful and fearmongering soul as well. Such hypocracy.....

Time to review tax exemption status. And then use the money to fund a public option. These religious groups would finally be contributing in a positive way to the country.

This "idea" is a pathetic joke and an insult to anyone with at least two or more brain cells. What an utterly smug, self-righteous and perverse use of Christianity. Why do so many who claim to be close to Christ act in a manner that is so far from him? Beware of these modern day Pharisees that dwell among us.

What does Jesus say to do for our enemies? Love them, do good to them, bless them, pray for them. When we pray for someone, we're asking all good for them--not using God as a tool to get them to behave as we want them to do. It's a great practice. It helps to open our hearts and to understand and love across the huge gulf of disagreement. I encourage everyone on all sides of the political scrimmage to try it.

As soon as I saw the headline on the front page of the WashPost.com, I knew Sally Quinn's mug was going to show up in the top bar. I was dreading clicking on the link, which I knew was the WashPost.com's version of a "religion" article, but I did anyway and -- voila -- there was Sally Quinn's face leering back at me. Miss Sally was probably thinking about "that *****" Hillary Clinton when that image was taken. That aside, it's strange, disturbing, and fascinating to live in the late stages of an empire (the U.S. of A.) that cannot govern itself anymore, with about a third of its people reverting back to some kind of retro religio-insane Dark Age and a corporate overclass whose viciousness and greed makes it the economic analog to Ebola virus. The most fascinating thing is that the religio-crazies get whipped up into a frenzy supporting the right of the corporate fascists to exterminate them. That's the "neat trick" of the Republican (and to a lesser extent Democratic) Party. I guess it was bound to happen that America would collapse. No one ever said this American Experiment was going to work out permanently.

PRAY FOR ME YOU REPUBLICANS BECAUSE AS GOD IS MY WITNESS I WANT TO START KILLING YOU.

REGULUSARCTURUS, I ONLY CAUGHT A GLIMPSE OF YOUR STUFF AS I WAS REREADING MY OWN. YOU NEED A DIE HARD SERGEANT ONCE THE FIGHTING BEGINS, I AM APPLYING FOR THE JOB. YOUR GRASP OF THE SITUATION IS ADMIRAL.

We should pray for all those in government to make wise choices - liberal and conservatives and all those in between. Jesus would have none of this for political purposes...and that's where this seems to be going... shame on you who claim to be saving the soul of America.

We should pray for all those in government to make wise choices - liberal and conservatives and all those in between. Jesus would have none of this for political purposes...and that's where this seems to be going... shame on you who claim to be saving the soul of America.

DEADCONSTITUTION - " AS GOD IS MY WITNESS" ... if what you say is true ... you better start praying for YOURSELF. You've been putting your hope in OBAMA and he CAN'T save your eternal soul . .... Ghrist himself won't take charge of your own SELF CONTROL .... you have to be a willing participant in your own salvation.

I'll make a deal with those conservatives who want to pray for a liberal. Instead of adopting this liberal please adopt a liberal or conservative who today does not have health insurance and is sick. Pray that they either get better by tomorrow or get health insurance, somehow, by tomorrow. When you wake up tomorrow and they are still sick and without health insurance, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OTHER THAN PRAYING!

Well ... I have been reading these posts from time to time all day .... If the Posters here represent what AMERICA has become .... all I can say is , PRAYER ISN'T ENOUGH .... better start FASTING too !!!

After reading some of these comments, I think the word, preying, is more appropriate than praying. Religion is a private matter and should never be politicized Separation of church and state, people, puhleeze!

PRAY FOR ME YOU REPUBLICANS BECAUSE AS GOD IS MY WITNESS I WANT TO START KILLING YOU. -- Posted by: deadconstitution Knock off the sympathy trolling. Your posting history demonstrates clearly that you're a conservo trying to slander liberals by acting like an a$$.

I pray for term limits so the grizzled, old fossil Senators like Hatch and Grassley who hate the poor, minorities and gays and support Mormon Elder Beck's agenda of a theocratic America can finally retire to Paraguay with George the Dumber before the next civil war their agenda brings to the US. Bush bought land in Paraguay because he knows what is going to happen in the US. Paraguay, like Mexico for me, is a good place for him and his big-oil cronies to sit it out.

Speaking of Ann Coulter, have you noticed the similarity of Sarah Palin and Kathleen Parker to her? I think they're identical cousins (albeit it Parker is the much more feminine of the three). They all have that smug look of contempt for men, righteous indignation and middle aged martyrdom that so reminds me of my late Mormon ex-wife. You wouldn't catch any of them praying for liberals.

We are heading for a Liberal States of America and a Conservative States of America. My loyalty is with the Liberals. Let the Conservatives find their own savior for executive office...I suggest Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin

rickfowler wrote: "We are heading for a Liberal States of America and a Conservative States of America." I disagree. I think we are heading toward a Conservative States of America and a United States of America. Sort of like what happened in 1861. I'm waiting for them to make their own flag. I'm sure it will have a cross on it, like the license plates the SC government made. Unlike 1861 the states will break away due to that awful Constitution the federal government keeps asking them to abide by. The Conservative States will establish a theocracy, possibly democratic in nature with only one amemdment to its constitution, our second amendment. Christianity will be the state religion and permiate every corner of government and society. The CSA will end up as a third world state, sucking at the teat of the USA, sort of like those states do now but would never admit it.

The majority in the USA, liberals and conservatives, believe in the Christian/Jewish/Islamic god first introduced supposedly by Abraham and yet modern historical studies have shown that said fellow never existed making prayer to said god a huge con game perpetuated by priests, ministers, rabbis and imams. Might want to mention that to your religious leaders during your next visit to your house of "idle" worship.

"I love seeing the hateful atheists come out of the woodwork to demonstrate their utter intolerance for those who don't share their intrinsically correct views of the universe. Atheists like to claim they are enlightened. The atheists who visit this blog are just a bunch of bigots. Posted by: bobmoses | October 1, 2009 6:52 AM" Bob, You are free to believe any sort of nonsense that you like. If you want to believe that you have an imaginary friend who will intervene between you and the laws of nature at your asking, that is entirely up to you. AS LONG AS YOU KEEP IT TO YOURSELF! Calling people bigots just because they choose not to pretend that the mentally unbalanced are sane is out of line. I suggest you make an appointment and seek qualified help with this belief that your delusional fantasies are real.

Gotta love the preacher squawking about "professional infidels". That's what the radical Islamic militants call the LIBERAL western world as well. But then, we already knew that these fundies were one and the same with their brethren overseas. They just speak their 15th-century nonsense in hick English, rather than Pashtun or Arabic. Otherwise they are identical.

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