Haiti, the devil and Pat Robertson
By David Waters
Pat Robertson is at it again. The purported Christian minister who suggested assassinating Venezuela leader Hugo Chavez and nuking the U.S. State Department, the reputed follower of Jesus who blamed the 9/11 terrorist attacks and Hurricane Katrina on pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays and lesbians, is now attributing the Haitian earthquake to Haiti's "pact to the devil."
"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about," Robertson said Tuesday on his 700 Club show. "They were under the heel of the French, you know Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said 'We will serve you if you will get us free from the prince.' True story. And so the devil said, 'Ok it's a deal.' And they kicked the French out. The Haitians revolted and got something themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after another."
One can only assume that Robertson is alluding to the fact that a majority of Haitians believe in and practice some forms of voodoo. Perhaps he's also referring to the fact that Roman Catholicism is the official religion of Haiti. It's also possible Robertson doesn't know what he's talking about.
Michael Lindsay, a Rice University sociologist and author of the book "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite," suggests that Robertson does indeed know what he's talking about, and why: "Pat Robertson continues to distinguish himself as American evangelicalism's most flamboyant spokesperson. When tragedies strike, people naturally ask questions about why bad things happen to the innocent, and millions of Americans see the hand of God or the devil at work in natural calamities," Lindsay said. "But few religious leaders today draw the kinds of explicit connection as Pat Robertson has done with the Haitian earthquake. Robertson's comments reflect as much his rhetorical flourish and skill as a ratings booster as they do his theology."
Years ago I wrote a column saying that we should pay attention to the crazy things Robertson says because his thinking reflects the thinking of millions of fundamentalist Christians, many of whom support his multi-million-dollar "Christian" media empire and the political views he espouses. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe the time has come to stop paying attention to Pat Robertson. Surely the time has come for Robertson to stop making such shameful comments. Considering the massive death, destruction and misery in Haiti, it is shameful for anyone -- but especially a so-called minister of the gospel -- to suggest that God or the poor people of Haiti had anything to do with it.
Do you agree?
UPDATE: In a statement on its Web site, the Christian Broadcasting Network said Robertson was speaking objectively about Haiti's history that has led "countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed: "Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God's wrath," the statement reads. "If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson's compassion for the people of Haiti is clear."
David Waters
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Posted by: burlough | January 13, 2010 3:39 PM
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Once again hatred spews like raw sewage from the mouth of this putrid demon who dares to call himself a "man of God".
Posted by: blarsen1 | January 13, 2010 3:41 PM
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Should we expect anything other than near-insanity from a deacon of the GOP?
Posted by: hairguy01 | January 13, 2010 3:45 PM
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"Maybe the time has come to stop paying attention to Pat Robertson. "
No, hatred must still be condemned regardless of the source. By claiming that the Haitians had it coming, Robertson comes close to being morally guilty of murder.
Posted by: Carstonio | January 13, 2010 4:32 PM
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Wow! Such ignorance and viciousness, from a supposedly educated Christian. No wonder so many are moving away from churches and religion.
A natural disaster occurs (it was an earthquake, Mr. Robertson) and these poor folks in a poor country are blamed for not praying to the right God or in the right manner (which can only be according to Robertson's preference or belief).
Why does the press give this man a platform to spew such meanness and stupidity? If there's any good that comes from his horrible comments, it'll be that more people will be educated about his and his supposedly public service non-profit's nature:
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A $424 million/year budget, $196 million in assets (some non-profit!) and he spews such ignorance, ignorance and fear.
Let's see him stop the viciousness and put some real money on the table, for ALL Haitians to change their life. They need far more than preaching. They need agriculture, jobs, schools, hospitals, etc.
I won't be holding my breath.
Posted by: AvgAmerican | January 13, 2010 4:33 PM
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Even imposters like maybe "Carstonio" get it right once in awhile?????
And then there are these oft repeated words of reality:
Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).
Current crises:
Adulterous preachers, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals like the crazy Pat Robertson and atonement theology, all male hierarchies and strange banking and funding.
Posted by: ccnl1 | January 13, 2010 4:38 PM
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Rich and delusional - not a good combination.
Posted by: lepidopteryx | January 13, 2010 5:21 PM
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Not to mention using his religious mission in Africa to invest in blood diamonds. He's a scumbag, through and through. Rev. Pat should STFU and show some "Christian compassion" by sending his charity down to PAP to help out.
Posted by: Athena4 | January 13, 2010 5:33 PM
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I thought that jacka$$ was dead. Oh well, hopefully it'll be soon.
Anyway Pat, you and the rest of your "kind" really deliver a great image of Christ's Gospel to the world of the hillbilly fringe that pays homage to your dynasty. "C'mon Lulubell, send some cash to help this moron get richer". Be nice and sleep well and don't wake up.
Posted by: dlkimura | January 13, 2010 5:59 PM
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A "pact to the devil". Pact "TO" the devil?! Robertson can't even speak proper English anymore. Are we supposed to give any credence to his disordered thought processes? Not a chance. What a sanctimonious, hypocritical, pathetic sham of a so-called Christian. When he was baptized, he should have been dunked longer.
Posted by: laboo | January 13, 2010 6:01 PM
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Pat Robertson is right. The Haitians made a pact with the devil in 1791. Just because Pat Robertson mentions history does not make it false. I knew that too. Anybody familiar with Haitian history is familiar with it.
Posted by: screwjob2 | January 13, 2010 6:02 PM
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What an evil, evil man.
Posted by: quacker | January 13, 2010 6:07 PM
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As a Christian and a Republican, I want to say to Pat Robertson: Shut up.
Because of my own embarrassment that people may think he and I share views, I would like for the world to stop paying attention to him. But I think that at this point, it's more important for others like me to speak out against the hateful things he says.
So to, as a Christian and a Republican, I say to everyone here: Pat Robertson does NOT speak for me.
Posted by: highschoolteacher | January 13, 2010 6:09 PM
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Appalling. Yes, nobody with a brain would ever believe this, but how very sad anyone with influence would say such a hateful thing.
Posted by: sarahabc | January 13, 2010 6:14 PM
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He's a great humanitarian, he's a great philanthropist,
He knows just where to touch you, honey, and how you like to be kissed.
He'll put both his arms around you,
You can feel the tender touch of the beast.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace ...
Man of Peace
Bob Dylan
Posted by: psdhq | January 13, 2010 6:18 PM
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It can almost always be a mistake to "assume" anything at all about Robertson.
In this case he got his timeframe a tad wrong, but the Haitians did, in fact "make a Faustian bargain" (as we in elite literary circles call it) with the French.
It wasn't to get the French OUT but to get the French to RETURN, which they did ~ mostly businessmen, sugar mill operators, plantation managers, etc.
The French stayed. The Haitians stayed poor.
Certainly the Devil was in the details wasn't it.
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Best that folks check their literary allusions BEFORE attributing everything to Pentecostalism.
BTW, I am really, really, really surprised that NO ONE at the WarshPost knew that one ~ I mean, like guys, you'all took English 101 in college, right?
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 6:22 PM
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The most recent comment below calls Rev. Pat a scumbag. That's aiming high, he's really much lower than that. Good scumbags prevent the transmission of venereal disease, but Pat Robertson aides the transmission of venereal disease by opposing contraception of all sorts, including the use of condoms.
Posted by: TerraFritta | January 13, 2010 6:24 PM
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BLARSEN1, your ignorance spews like the Canadian Falls at Niagara in Spring.
Try this: Faustian Bargain, Devil is in the Details, and a myriad of other similar literary references.
You would be wise to look before you leap. Otherwise we will be forced to think of you as just another bigot.
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 6:27 PM
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What a nut case. And we lucky Virginians are saddled with his governor for four years.
Posted by: JamesWebster | January 13, 2010 6:27 PM
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I don't want to see or hear Pat Robertson's name in the media again until it's in his obituary.
Posted by: donmooredxer | January 13, 2010 6:28 PM
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Since the Devil wouldn't make a pact with anyone to end evil and misery, Robertson must think that slavery is a good thing.
And of course, none of that would have been necessary if Jesus had made even one statement unequivocally condemning that practice.
Posted by: cornbread_r2 | January 13, 2010 6:28 PM
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JAMESWEBSTER ~ coming out of the primitive age foisted on us by Mark Warner and Kaine, your boys, Virginians will find McDonnell a fresh breath of air.
Those two Dems were among the dimmest of the dim in my estimation.
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 6:30 PM
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I suspect most evangelicals had no idea about this supposed pact. Hopefully they won't now lap it up. Even within Robertson's own belief system, the idea that the Deity would wait 200+ years to take revenge is utterly absurd. Where is there any scriptural precedent for such a delayed action? Nowhere. It's Robertson's ugly imagination at it again.
Posted by: Matthew_DC | January 13, 2010 6:30 PM
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Robertson is a hateful racist psychopath. He offers only hate and fear.
Posted by: mtnmanvt | January 13, 2010 6:34 PM
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MATTHEW_DC ~ it would be nice if you understood the references and history well enough to discuss the issue.
Robertson is far from the first person to have referred to the deal made with the French AFTER independence as a "bargain with the Devil".
You may well think it was a neat deal for the Haitians to essentially give up their right to run their own country (economically, socially, educationally, culturally) in return for technocratic focus provided by French speaking carpetbaggers.
See where it got them? Get a big natural disaster and they are totally helpless with no idea where to begin.
Problem with your typical Robertson hater is that they don't know enough of the background to make a rational comment or response so they just wing it with hate speech and ig'nant blather!
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 6:36 PM
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Pats done HooDoo'd the Voodoo!
Posted by: ohwell | January 13, 2010 6:37 PM
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What a horrible man and one that surely, if there is a heaven, will be turned away at the pearly gates and thrown far in the fires of hell. Sadly however, the media continues to give him a voice. Now, with that said, I am turning my thoughts back to the people of Haiti and finding ways to help.
Posted by: bvguse | January 13, 2010 6:37 PM
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MUAWIYAH do you actually believe that Haitians made an actual deal with the actual devil? Really?
Posted by: mtnmanvt | January 13, 2010 6:38 PM
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If Pat Robertson truly believes he is a soldier of God and Haiti is devil territory then that is where his battle lies. I say airlift him out of his comfortable, air-conditioned TV studio and drop him in the middle of Port-Au-Prince. Now.
Posted by: bidalah | January 13, 2010 6:41 PM
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THIS IDIOT, AND I SAY THAT MEANING THE LOWEST OF A HUMAN BEING...IS SUPPOSE TO BE A MAN OF GOD....YET HE TRIES TO BRAINWASH FOLKS INTO BELIEVING THIS NATURAL DISASTER IS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL...HOW SAD TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE LIKE THIS HAS THE EARS OF SO MANY PEOPLE EACH SUNDAY. NOW, I WONDER IF ANY OF HIS CONGREGATION WILL READ WHAT HE HAS TO SAY IN THIS COLUMN AND REALIZE WHAT A FOOL THEY ARE TO FOLLOW AND BELIEVE SUCH AN EVIL MAN. YOU CAN BET HE WILL NOT SEND A DIME TO HELP THESE PEOPLE, NOR WILL BE OFFER UP A PRAYER. HIS FOLLOWING SHOULD LEAVE HIS CHURCH IMMEDIATELY AND NOT RETURN...LET HIM SEE HOW HE WILL STACK THE BUCKS THEN...WHAT A SHAME TO HAVE A MAN LIKE THIS ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
Posted by: HAWKKMAN | January 13, 2010 6:43 PM
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I can only attribute Robertson's bizarre comments to a common medical condition suffered by virtually every Neo-Nutzi Conservative that infects the USA. I strongly urge Mr. Robertson slither as fast as possible over to his family proctologist and get himself a brain scan.
Posted by: Bushwhacked1 | January 13, 2010 6:44 PM
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I am a conservative Christian. But, I am offended by anyone who claims to speak for God. This is essentially the same thing Pat Robertson said about Hurricane Katrina and how it brought God's judgment on a sinful city and nation. However, interestingly enough, the only significant part of New Orleans not devastated by Katrina was the French Quarter
Posted by: jlynnrhodes | January 13, 2010 6:44 PM
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Wow, I'm disturbed that this repulsive man (Pat Robertson) has been given a front page story on the washingtonpost.com. That only gives creedence to his claims, even if you rip him apart in your story.
This man is a menace and should be relegated to the tabloid section of the paper, NOT ON THE FRONT PAGE.
Posted by: scadolph | January 13, 2010 6:45 PM
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Why doesn't this guy just shut his mouth.Anyone who listens to him or considers themselves a follower...really is THIS what Christianity is all about. What compassion.If he wants to know who Satan really has a firm grip on all he has to do is look in the mirror.
Posted by: misewicz | January 13, 2010 6:46 PM
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You know, the thing about Christianity (and most world religions) is that at it's heart the basic tenet is to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
So I am saying right now that I believe Pat Robertson made a deal with Satan. Because I can in no way, shape or form otherwise understand why someone so ignorant and intolerant is held up as a bastion of Christian faith.
Posted by: Chasmosaur1 | January 13, 2010 6:46 PM
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Pat Robertson is such a miserable excuse for a human being.
["True story. And so the devil said, 'Ok it's a deal.']
One assumes that Robertson was there to witness the event in which the devil accepted a pact with the Haitians. One might also suspect that Pat is the devil himself.
Posted by: Single_Payer | January 13, 2010 6:48 PM
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Just at the moment he and his followers should be praying like crazy for these poor people (and collecting food/clothing for them), he spouts this venom!!!! Where is the "Christianity" there -- absoutely insane!!!!!!!! Is is just impossible to swallow that anyone could be this cruel. If anyone deserves to rot in hell, it's this man.
Posted by: seaduck2001 | January 13, 2010 6:48 PM
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What a scary and facinating universe Robertson inhabits. The reality is that Robertson cloaks his vicious racism against the Haitian people by claiming that his super-powerful imaginary friend in the sky made the earth move and hurt the bad black voodoo devil worshipers! Pat hates gays, too, so his super friend sent Katrina to devastate New Orleans.
No one should doubt that Robertson is crazy. The less coverage he gets in the media, the better. Please, let's take the advice of BVGUSE above, and focus on how we can help alleviate the terrible suffering of our Haitian neighbors.
Posted by: coconuthead | January 13, 2010 6:53 PM
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I despise Robertson but look: he is a prisoner of his own theological assumptions. He believes God is active in the minutia of the world and its events. IF that is true, then he cannot conclude that such a catastrophic event just randomly occurred, which it did of course. But plate techtonics aside, this guy can only conclude that this event and others like it are the hand of God. His other assumption is, of course, that God is just. So it can't be that an evil God would do such a thing. That leaves him one choice: it must be the Haitians who brought this on themselves. It's a pathetically narrow brand of theology and it is likely embraced not only by First World citizens like Robertson but the overwhelming majority of Two-Thirds World people including the Haitians. Meanwhile, these poor people need help. Let's see if Americans can muster the energy to help a poor country as much as they get inspired to invade poor countries.
Posted by: medogsbstfrnd | January 13, 2010 6:54 PM
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Not that you can really compare the two, but now I know how honorable, dovout muslims must feel like when the lunatic fringe of their religion commits terrorist acts and the like. Robertson does NOT reflect the views of most Christians in this regard. He needs to retire and take his medication. AND apologize.
Posted by: thjmu87 | January 13, 2010 6:58 PM
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I am not a religious person but the presence of people like Pat Robertson on earth convinces me that there is such a thing as pure evil. Pure, demented evil. All those poor souls who believe in this sort of devil garbage should try looking at preachers like Robertson as personification of evil. Well, if there is a just god, he/she/it will certainly damn his soul.
Posted by: jrw1 | January 13, 2010 7:00 PM
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Well, I don't much believe in God anymore. However, if I did, I would easily notice that brother Pat speaks as if he were the devil himself. Does anyone believe the devil,if he exists, would show up looking red with horns? No, he would walk amongst us, whispering what we think we want to hear. He would lead the believers further and further from the love of god, like Pat Robertson is doing now. If I were to believe in God, Pat Robertson would be the devil in sheep's clothing.
Posted by: dougw3 | January 13, 2010 7:03 PM
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We must be grateful to the Reverend Robertson, for reminding us that god inflicts almost 100% of the world's deadly tornadoes on the Bible Belt.
Maybe it's their 50% divorce rate that does it. Or their "family values" Congressmen.
Posted by: gkam | January 13, 2010 7:08 PM
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Pat your comments are much maligned. There are people muttering in the dark under buildings with little to hope for. You Sir will not be judged by me. Guard your mouth as the Apostle Paul wrote
Posted by: reedjst | January 13, 2010 7:08 PM
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It's not the fact that Pat mentions the so-called "pact with the devil" which may in fact be a historical fact, it is the fact that he would mention it NOW and in a way that implies that this tragedy is a direct result and is a punishment from God that is so offensive. Even if it was all true, the Bible says to "speak the truth in love" and in this instance it would mean you just don't bring it up now when the bodies are lying in the streets. Pat's sin is one of gross insensitivity in times of crisis. But in his (slight) defense, he is martialling financial aid through his own organizations. I would also say that the picture you paint of Pat is too hostile. He does stick his foot in his mouth (a lot) but he is not an evil man.
Posted by: AnotherContrarian | January 13, 2010 7:11 PM
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Boycott advertisers on CBN.
Posted by: gbooksdc | January 13, 2010 7:14 PM
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thjmu87 wrote: "Not that you can really compare the two, but now I know how honorable, dovout muslims must feel like when the lunatic fringe of their religion commits terrorist acts and the like. Robertson does NOT reflect the views of most Christians in this regard. He needs to retire and take his medication. AND apologize."
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Oh, yes. You CAN compare the two. It really isn't hard. Try it now:
The extreme fundamentalist arms of both religions believe that the oppression of women is ordered by God.
Both arms believe that theirs is the only true religion and all others are false/work of the Devil.
Both arms believe that violence is justified in their quest to triumph over other religions.
Both arms believe that homosexuality is sick and unnatural; some factions advocate jail time or even death for those who commit homosexual acts.
Both arms would have their religious beliefs encoded in the laws of the countries in which they live.
Posted by: carlaclaws | January 13, 2010 7:14 PM
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It's good to see that old Pat is still thinking rationally. A pact with the devil? Nice one Patty...
Posted by: randysbailin | January 13, 2010 7:17 PM
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"The purported Christian minister... the reputed follower of Jesus".
While I fault Pat's statements, You are doing exactly what Jesus said not to do. Judging him. Only God can see if he is truly a follower or not and His judgment will not be based on a few stupid and insensitive statements. Condemn Pat's statements, not his soul
Posted by: AnotherContrarian | January 13, 2010 7:21 PM
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CARLACLAWS ~ no doubt Christian nuns are sitting about plotting to bring down airliners.
I think you should ask your doc for a renewal of that medicine you used to take. You've gone completely out of your mind in recent days.
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 7:21 PM
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Well, I never paid any attention to him so my soul is clean on that account.
Posted by: LittleRed1 | January 13, 2010 7:21 PM
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Whatever. What did you have for lunch?
Posted by: BaracksTeleprompter | January 13, 2010 7:21 PM
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say, isn't Robertson the buddy of the newly elected governor of Virginia? And didn't the guv attend Robertson's law "school"? wonder how long we'll have to wait for the guv to denounce these comments.
Posted by: eomcmars | January 13, 2010 7:23 PM
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GKAM ~ once again you betray your understanding of geography in the United States.
Understanding Crawfordsville Indiana to be the veritable buckle on the Bible Belt it's pretty clear God only inflicts the mid-lands in the United States with 90% of the world's tornados.
People like Larry Craig, Barney Frank, various Hollywood hookers, Boston lotharios, etc., etc., dome from the periphery of the country ~ not from its Heartland.
Get out your gazeteer again. See how many names there are under Lebanon. Now, see how that compares to the United States.
Different, hunh?
Hugely so.
The Senators and Governors dropping trou for fair maiden are, of course, from the SOUF'
They can't help it!
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 7:25 PM
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fr muwayah:
>...Problem with your typical Robertson hater is that they don't know enough of the background to make a rational comment or response so they just wing it with hate speech and ig'nant blather!
Problem with your typical robber$on groupie is that they've MOST willingly drank his purple kool-aid, believing everything that he spews is the gospel, when it is NOT.
Don't forget that patty here got daddy Senator Marion Robertson to pull strings to get him off of a Korea-bound troopship.
Posted by: Alex511 | January 13, 2010 7:26 PM
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I watched the linked video and IMO the more bizarre statement he made was that this is "a blessing in disguise" and God's idea of urban renewal.
Posted by: cornbread_r2 | January 13, 2010 7:27 PM
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EOMCMARS ~ as I've explained it's difficult to know exactly what Pat meant when he said what he said. There's quite a bit of blathering on this thread from your usual anti-religious bigots and haters, but Pat's present behavior isn't consistent at all with him having thought evil of the people of Haiti.
He's sending aid.
What are you doing?
Now, about our new Governor, he's the Governor. Robertson is a businessman. Your just somebody on the internet. I doubt either one of them particularly care what you think.
It's probably more likely that Obama will denounce Nancy Pelosi for her lies, deceitful ways and crimes against humanity ~ which he should do of course.
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 7:29 PM
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ALEX511 ~ what is a Robertson groupie?
As I said you really don't understand enough about Haiti to deal with the issue Robertson raised.
Try reading some books instead of running around with your Beavis and Butthead buddies snorking, horking and drooling your hate and BS.
BTW, Robertson doesn't know enough about Haiti to raise the religious issue that he did.
Didn't your teachers make you read about Toussaint, the Slave who Freed Haiti?
There are some great followups to that ~ and, BTW, Christopher Columbus and his men appear to have had a pig roast on Hispaniola sometime between 1486 and 1500. They dug up the bones and everything.
It's been downhill ever since!
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 7:33 PM
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Pat Robertson and the actress who showed similar indifference toward the suffering in the earthquake in China should be cellmates for eternity in purgatory.
How some people can claim to be Christians while representing the antithesis of the teachings of Jesus is beyond human or any divine understanding.
Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | January 13, 2010 7:34 PM
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robertson is one sick dude but I'm sure a hero to loons like spidermean, liberalbusher and other assorted whackos.
What about it lunatics, is this another example of the ever loving god at work?
Posted by: rcubedkc | January 13, 2010 7:36 PM
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CORNBREAD_R2 ~ interesting you picked up on that. There's this abortion rights guy who's been raising the devil about Robertson refusing to encourage Haitians to use condoms.
Yet, Taiwan has triple the population density as Haiti and is certainly nowhere near as poor.
I think the problems with Haiti have a lot more to do with education and corrupt government than with who wraps what with which!
Oh, yeah, and back to Robertson ~ I can only imagine the abortion rights guy is going to get very angry with Robertson for not haing organized shipments of condoms to Haiti rather than medical equipment and devices.
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 7:37 PM
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I still don't understand why the Media persists in giving these religious nuts a forum. Robertson is no less nuts than Rick Warren who compared homosexuals to pedophiles ... but it is the Media that promotes both to the people who follow such idiocy.
Posted by: paris1969 | January 13, 2010 7:40 PM
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I am an agnostic. Who could believe that Pat Robertson is a man of God. I thought that men of God cared for all people in the world. I think that Pat Robertson has made a pact with the devil. All people should care about all people.
Posted by: aegray02 | January 13, 2010 7:41 PM
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What would possess someone to make such an offensive and idiotic allegation? The devil?
"purported Christian minister" is spot on!
Posted by: pumor | January 13, 2010 7:42 PM
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PARIS1969 ~ a much better understanding of pedophilia in modern times reveals that there are as many boys attacked by these guys as there might be girls.
When a male, adult or not, sexually molests a male, child or adult, that is, by definition, a homosexual attack.
There's nothing to fight about regarding definitions of course, but male on male pedophile situations are, in fact, homosexual by definition.
And yes, there are as many male pedophiles as there are male homosexuals.
Are they the same guys?
Perhaps.
Perhaps not.
It's a delicate issue to study ~ but I wouldn't say the people who think it should be studied are nuts.
Would you?
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 7:43 PM
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AEGRAY02
Why?
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 7:44 PM
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Why does the Post choose to put this on the front page? People all over the US are sick with worry and are wondering how they can help. Why do you wast column-inches and space on your main page with this?
Posted by: reston75 | January 13, 2010 7:45 PM
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Can you believe this guy? Hundred of thousands dead, many of them church goers who believe in Jesus, and this guy, who calls himself a preacher, says something so insensitive. I think Robertson works with Satan. I knew he's a big GOP supporter...well that explains it then...he's a republican. Nuff said.
Posted by: kubrickstan | January 13, 2010 7:47 PM
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It is this kind of ignorant raving from the religious far right that gives religion a bad name. Robertson will say anything to get his name in print and I can easily dismiss him. It's the people who believe him that scare me to death.
Posted by: Denny_98 | January 13, 2010 7:50 PM
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This guy uses my God as a punchline to get money from his followers. He is a poor excuse for a human and most certainly NOT a Christian.
What a jerk
Posted by: dbeins | January 13, 2010 7:51 PM
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It's mind-boggling and more than a little scary to contemplate the fact that Virginia's Gov.-elect Bob McDonnell received his law degree from Regent University, which was founded by Pat Robertson.
Posted by: BlueMoon1 | January 13, 2010 7:54 PM
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It's such an easy shot that the media just can't resist. That must tune in to the 700 Club every time there is as disaster Gotta see what crazy Pat is gonna say. But does it really matter, given what has happened in Haiti? Does it have an impact on anything substantial?? Of course not. Get a life.
Posted by: loux24 | January 13, 2010 7:57 PM
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what, slow news day? Nothing to report except the ravings of a mad man out for attention? Sarah Palin doesn't get any more space this week because her retainer with you guys ran out?
cripes, and you wonder w hy newspapers are dying.
Posted by: summicron1 | January 13, 2010 8:00 PM
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The devil in Pat Robertson is that he is
into GOD-SCAM. He uses God like hell to
ENRICH HIMSELF. He uses Christianity to CREATE MANY MILLIONS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for Pat Robertson. Pat is A CURSE UPON HUMANITY.
Posted by: ddarker1 | January 13, 2010 8:01 PM
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Wow! And people still keep jumping on the religious bandwagon.
Just think of all the people donating to this guy and have the right to vote.
Maybe Robertson thinks every disaster that kills people is a Christian jihad.
Posted by: WherestheBeef | January 13, 2010 8:03 PM
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People like Pat Robertson give religion a bad name. I feel for the people who look up to this man and hope they never get devastated by a natural disaster which ol' Pat derides them for causing.
I think he could use an education about the tectonic plates working in the Caribbean and why this happens in a place like Haiti and not other places.
Posted by: brooklynreader | January 13, 2010 8:03 PM
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Basically, I do agree with you, David.
Pat Robertson is nothing more than one of those sleazy, money-grubbing false prophets we read about in the Bible, in my opinion.
In this case, however, I think we need to expose his hatred and bigoted condemnation of this poor country, just in order to alert and warn people to veer away from this kind of contemptable opinioneering.
I'm with BIDALAH (JANUARY 13, 2010 6:41 PM).
I defy Pat Robertson to leave his comfort and rich life and go down to Haiti and view the carnage for himself, and then say that the Haitians brought it on themselves, or that even ('It's God's Will) God may have visited this suffering upon these innocent people, just trying to scrape a living from a land devoid of any resources.
Then, he should repent his blasphemy.
Posted by: Judy-in-TX | January 13, 2010 8:08 PM
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I find it amazing that anyone in the twenty first century could believe that natural disasters are caused by sky guy or his opposite Lucifer. These kinds of beliefs were reasonable two thousand years ago, or even five hundred years ago, but since the advent of the scientific age we know that plates move and earth quake happen. I would feel sorry for Pat Robertson if he were the village idiot, however this is not the case. I suspect that Mr, Robertson spends a lot of time counting his cash. Sad, very sad.
Posted by: jimnbo | January 13, 2010 8:11 PM
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This man is a shameless reprobate...
Posted by: demtse | January 13, 2010 8:14 PM
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It is interesting that a (albeit cursory) internet search for a list of CBN advertisers yielded nothing. Yes, all thinking, feeling Americans should, BY ALL MEANS, BOYCOTT CBN's ADVERTISERS... and don't forget to let the advertisers know of your intentions and reasons.
Posted by: coconuthead | January 13, 2010 8:27 PM
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Here is what we should do, let´s hit him where it really hurts, his pocketbook, let´s boycott the sponsors of his primary revenue earner, CBN, that would surely put him under. I mean let´s really join together in a concerted effort to put this religious sham out of business.
Posted by: herbertcole42 | January 13, 2010 8:28 PM
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This is Christianity when a political party takes control of it. Robertson doesn't represent all of Christianity, or even most of it. Just that part of it that allowed itself to become an arm of the Republican Party.
I believe in the teachings of Jesus, his guidelines for how you should live your life, but I wouldn't call myself a religious man. If I was, I don't think I'd want my religion to get mixed up in politics, there's really nothing lower. It makes you say the kind of things that Pat Robertson said in the face of a great tragedy, instead of just asking yourself how Jesus would react to it, which would probably be with tears and pity. At least that's what I assume that Christianity is supposed to be about. Like everyone else, I could be wrong.
Posted by: tvanzandt | January 13, 2010 8:29 PM
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The 700 club is Satan.
Posted by: porcelainproductions | January 13, 2010 8:35 PM
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Wow, that is so christian-like of you Pat! What an a$$
Posted by: peepmonger | January 13, 2010 8:41 PM
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First, I offer my prayers to the people of Haiti who are in such great pain and suffering.
Secondly, it is clear from his statements, that Pat Robertson is not a man of God, but simply an EVIL man.
Posted by: nannye | January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
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I've been so busy trying to figure out why God picked Sarah Palin to be John McCain's running mate that I've hardly had time to eat, and now Robertson adds this theological conundrum to my woes.
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 13, 2010 8:48 PM
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I think we are naive or totally wrong. This is not FREE SPEECH and I don't understand why he is not in jail already. I was participating in an international blog and I felt a deep shame that people all over the world they were making comments what the AMERICAN Minister said about people from Haiti.
PATHETIC.
Posted by: Diori | January 13, 2010 8:55 PM
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KUBRICKSTA ~ you watch entirely too many Robertson shows.
Now, what aspect of what he said offends you so much and why?
While you're at it compare and contrast what he said against what he is doing about it and what he asked others to do.
Then, come back and tell us what you're going to do about it. (I bet NOTHING ~ you're going to let the poor people of Haiti rot and die, and you'll be demanding your part of your income taxes back that may have gone to aid them).
Now, DOUGLASLBARBER, tell Sherry "HI SHERRY". Now, go and sell your lithium bicycle on eBay and donate all your money to the poor.
Just do it for me ~ if not God. I'm sure He wouldn't want to put you out of your comfort zone but I wouldn't mind at all.
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 9:00 PM
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Pat Robertson is what happens when ignorance turns to evil.
Posted by: gkam | January 13, 2010 9:00 PM
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DIORI ~ BS.
Funny little foreign people can't begin to comprehend what Robertson said nor do they care a zip about the people in Haiti.
Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2010 9:02 PM
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"Pat Robertson is right. The Haitians made a pact with the devil in 1791. Just because Pat Robertson mentions history does not make it false. I knew that too. Anybody familiar with Haitian history is familiar with it."
Actually, the story is that the Spanish split Hispaniola, and gave Haiti to the Devil so that they could claim the Dominican Republic for God. And, although the war for Haitian independence started in 1791, they didn't actually throw out the French until 1803. A good primer on the history of Haiti is here:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26/n08/paul-farmer/who-removed-aristide
Posted by: Athena4 | January 13, 2010 9:22 PM
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fr muahwyah:
>..As I said you really don't understand enough about Haiti to deal with the issue Robertson raised.
Try reading some books instead of running around with your Beavis and Butthead ....
1. I am VERY well-read, and have two college degrees from REAL colleges, not patty robber$on's boiler room operation.
2. I cannot, nor have I EVER watched beavis and butthead. I have better TV taste than that garbage.
3. Google patty robber$on and read up about your hero. He is the one who advocating blowing up the State Dept., claiming that hurricanes in Florida and Louisiana were caused by GLBT's, and he needs to learn to stop sticking his foot in his mouth.
Posted by: Alex511 | January 13, 2010 9:25 PM
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MR. MUAWIYAH,. THOSE "LITTLE FOREIGN PEOPLE" THEY SPEAK TWO OR THREE LANGUAGES, INCLUDING ENGLISH. THEY HAVE A COMPUTER AND THEY READ THE WASHINGTON POST. YOUR ASSUMPTION THAT THEY DON'T CARE A ZIP ABOUT PEOPLE IN HAITI HAS NOT CREDIBILITY. SHAME ON YOU TOO.
Posted by: Diori | January 13, 2010 9:29 PM
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Robertson the AH (Almighty Hollerer). Perhaps he needs to send some of his SierraLeone lucre (OKA Diamond blood money) to help these poor people in Haiti. He sure seems to be missing his position as the GOP eructating head. Rush got that job now.
Posted by: Draesop | January 13, 2010 9:31 PM
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A couple of things. More than likely Pat Robertson's knowledge is from missionaries believing something that is a Haitian urban myth. The knee-jerk reaction of attributing a calamity to the victims' sins has been happening for a long time and is completely wrong. Go to biblegatway.com and read the beginning of Luke 13 to see Jesus comment on this.
Second, Diori, this is America we dont put people in jail for their speech. Please move out of this Country if you can't get that.
Posted by: jackstraaw | January 13, 2010 9:34 PM
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Earthquakes are physical events. They have nothing to do with the virtues or lack thereof of the victims. Haiti has suffered a terrible disaster. The appropriate response is to assist in any way possible, not condemn the victims.
Posted by: karlanne1 | January 13, 2010 9:38 PM
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The idea that Dutty Boukman kicked off the Haitian slave revolt of 1871 with an oath to the devil is the Christian-ized, European-ized version of what happened. The Europeans were pretty set back when their spiffy soldiers and sailors were given their lumps and eventually sent home by the Haitians. It must have been the work of the devil. Yeah, that explains it.
Actually, the oath sworn there in the Bois Caiman on that night in August 1871 was to the entire pantheon of the loa.
As for Pat and his xenophobic followers, somebody should take that noisome offal to the dumpster.
Posted by: fzdybel | January 13, 2010 9:38 PM
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Look...another compassionate conservative.
Posted by: playa_brotha | January 13, 2010 9:40 PM
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And Christians wonder why some people don't approve of their faith. Look no further. Why isn't he out raising funds for relief? What a con artist.
Posted by: larry9 | January 13, 2010 9:42 PM
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I thought the Devil went down to Georgia.
Posted by: edlharris | January 13, 2010 9:43 PM
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Yeah, the Hatian earthquake could've been caused by a "pact to the devil". Or it could have been caused by the Carribean tectonic plate slipping past the North American tectonic plate. Not to get sciency and all on Pat's usual audience. But I'm a guessin' not too many of "them folks" is a readin' a WaPo blog anyway.
Posted by: rcupps | January 13, 2010 9:45 PM
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Remember that the new governor of Virginia, Bob McDonnell, is a graduate of Pat Robertson's law school. I wonder if GOVERNOR McDonnell will make any comment condemning Robertson's comments about the Haiti earthquake?
Posted by: jeffhert | January 13, 2010 9:49 PM
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This just illustrates how primitive Robert's spiritual development is. He's obsessed with wrong-doing and punishment and apparently knows nothing about mercy and compassion. No true Christian would gloat about catastrophe, or exploit the suffering of anyone (even a sinner) for such blatantly prideful and self-righteous purposes.
After a lifetime of self-aggrandizement, I think the man's mind is turning in on itself. He sounds demented.
Posted by: MontaraCA | January 13, 2010 9:49 PM
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The operative word in the decsription of Pat Robertson as a purported Chrstian is
"purported".
He is a phoney bigot who has made millions with his appeal to certain followers who call themselves Christians.
The manifestation of their "Christianity" is limited to showing up at demonstrations carrying placards of denoncement proclaiming they are "Chrstians" while disrupting attempts to conduct civil discussions.
It is time for the responsible media to take the initiative in exposing these people and their source of financial support. (It will never happen on Fox news).
Congress should introduce a resolution denouncing the remarks of Robertson and Limbaugh. It would be interesting to see who would fail to support it.
Posted by: WESHS49 | January 13, 2010 9:54 PM
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This a**hole is wasting the Earth's oxygen. F*** the toad.
Posted by: TOMHERE | January 13, 2010 9:58 PM
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I would like to report an offensive comment: Pat Robertson!
Posted by: tempestite | January 13, 2010 9:58 PM
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Ok, so a revoltion that occurred 300+ years ago results in divine retribution through a natural disaster that killed people whose great great great great (etc.) grandparents weren't even conceived at the time. I think he may be taking that 'sins of the fathers' thing just a bit too far...
Hey, was the unsuccessful underwear bomber divine retribution for the Pinto? I can come up with many more of these correlations that are just as valid as Robertson's...
Posted by: bandfriend | January 13, 2010 9:59 PM
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You people are incredible and so predictable. I am a Christian and I guess to many of you that condemns me already. How can so many voices from a SINGLE American generation be so ignorant. At a certain point you must all question your overwhelming solidarity against Pat Robertson, or anyone else for that matter. I will defend Pat Robertson here not so much for religious reasons but because the overwhelming majority of your comments are so disrespectful, mocking, snide, "clever," and anti-everything; and the post editors themselves should be ashamed of themselves for stirring up such anti-fundamentalist fervor. There. I feel confident being a lone voice against overwhelming odds. It makes me feel...yes...like Christ...a Christian.
Posted by: mchlcrom | January 13, 2010 10:03 PM
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pat robertson is such a hateful, horrible excuse for a human being. If anyone has a pact with the devil, it is him. There is no other way that scum could of risen to any sort or prominence without the devil behind him spreading his garbage.
Posted by: 4Jaxon | January 13, 2010 10:06 PM
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Whack. Job. Robertson deserves a special place in Hell.
Posted by: Bugs222 | January 13, 2010 10:10 PM
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Whenever something bad happens to people who don’t fit in to his view of the chosen, he has a ready made explanation that invariably involves the wrath of God. But when tornados tear through God-fearing Kansas, he is strangely silent. Pat Robertson is about as conversant with the will of God as he is with the dark side of the moon.
Posted by: SCKershaw | January 13, 2010 10:14 PM
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Seeing national misfortune as the result of divine judgement on collective sin features prominently in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament. It's prominent in the Pentateuch and it's prominent in the Prophets.
On the other hand in the same literature you have texts like some of the Psalms and Job and Ecclesiastes which dispute this way of interpreting the past.
In any case those who regard those texts as sacred would do well to realize that they are not histories in the modern sense, but accounts meant to encourage each individual who encounters them to be faithful, kind, and just.
Supposedly a verse from Proverbs formed the basis of Pat Robertson's conversion: "Trust in the Lord and do not lean on your own understanding."
He seems to have stood that insight on its head more than just this once.
Sometimes even a rich televangelist who seems to know how to keep his pants zipped needs to repent, and perhaps as an act of penitence take a vow of silence.
The best thing for Pat Robertson's soul, I'd guess, would be for Pat Robertson to realize that the world wouldn't suffer a bit were he never to speak again.
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 13, 2010 10:15 PM
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"Purported Christian" is correct in the column. By these remarks, Robinson bears absolutely no resemblance to any Christian, and he appears to be totally ignorant of the Christian gospels, and of the actual message Christ spread.
Posted by: charlie12 | January 13, 2010 10:18 PM
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Well, here we go. Self-proclaimed idiot makes a ridiculous public statement. People respond to the lunacy by calling it what it is. Self-proclaimed idiot now gets to feel righteous and persecuted by unbelievers and liberals. Just sit back and watch the show.
Posted by: Ilikemyprivacy | January 13, 2010 10:39 PM
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Good ole Pat keepin the snake oil warm & ready? Now Pat did Jesus tell you to say those things about the devil? People need to know that Pat is all about the MONEY and he wants you to send your MONEY to Jesus ! You just need to use Pat's address? See you in HELL Pat!
Posted by: nomad-one | January 13, 2010 10:40 PM
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Where did I put that Pat Robertson doll and those pins, mon?
Posted by: pjohn2 | January 13, 2010 10:42 PM
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As a Christian, I am horrified in Pat Robertsons remarks. Yet again, a false prophet who believes he has a telephone line to what God thinks. He gives Christianity a black eye and as a result the rest of us. There is nothing Christian about what he said, history or no history. Pat Robertson is a false prophet and it is so sad that so many of God's children have succumbed to him as Adam and Eve succumbed to the snake.
Posted by: sandnsmith | January 13, 2010 10:47 PM
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I made a deal with God today, I would send money to OxFam and the Red Cross, if he would put a curse on the faux Christians ie. Robertson and Limbaugh, that they will loose all their money and be condemned to live in the poverty that the poorest of the poor do in Haiti. And their progeny as well.
Then again, my faith teaches me to not be so vindictive. Hold that curse God, the money is on the way.
Posted by: OleLadySquawking | January 13, 2010 11:03 PM
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pjohn2 wins my best comment award for "Where did I put that Pat Robertson doll and those pins, mon?"
First runner up, and winner of my "depth of insight" award is medogsbstfrnd for this:
"I despise Robertson but look: he is a prisoner of his own theological assumptions. He believes God is active in the minutia of the world and its events. IF that is true, then he cannot conclude that such a catastrophic event just randomly occurred, which it did of course. But plate techtonics aside, this guy can only conclude that this event and others like it are the hand of God. His other assumption is, of course, that God is just. So it can't be that an evil God would do such a thing. That leaves him one choice: it must be the Haitians who brought this on themselves. It's a pathetically narrow brand of theology and it is likely embraced not only by First World citizens like Robertson but the overwhelming majority of Two-Thirds World people including the Haitians. Meanwhile, these poor people need help. Let's see if Americans can muster the energy to help a poor country as much as they get inspired to invade poor countries."
Of course, no one asked me, but hey...those were two great posts. And there were others.
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 13, 2010 11:04 PM
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This butt munching Huckabee is the epitome of what has gone terribly wrong with Christianity in America. Hope Governor Elect McDonnell is real proud of his mentor.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 13, 2010 11:05 PM
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Why isn't this man president?
Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | January 13, 2010 11:07 PM
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Well our incoming governor graduated from Robertson's university. This kind of thinking does not bode well for Virginia.
Also, this line of thinking is so middle-age. Galileo was imprisoned and almost put to death by the Catholic church once he established that the earth revolves around the sun, not the other way around. It would be so refreshing if these evangelical clowns actually opened up a science book!
Posted by: missingwisc | January 13, 2010 11:07 PM
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"Pat Robertson is right. The Haitians made a pact with the devil in 1791. Just because Pat Robertson mentions history does not make it false. I knew that too. Anybody familiar with Haitian history is familiar with it."
Posted by: screwjob2
So ... you're saying that there could be a curse on Haiti and its population? But that would mean those who made the pact are affected, but, it was 1791 and they are all gone. So, for this "pact" to still be enforced it must involve the children of the makers of this pact. When did christianity ever adhere to the sins of the parents being carried by the children? Does Pat ascribe to that ancient non-christian theology? If anything that is a pagan belief.
Do today's Haitians have to pay for the sins of their fathers? Is that part of Christ's message? Are my father's sins mine to carry? What about Pat's parents? Is he carrying their sins?
The man seems to know little of theology and a lot about pagan mysticism, which his "curse" on the children comes from. He should apologize and quickly and anyone who thinks this man has a lick of sense needs to reconsider. Next he'll be talking about vampires and werewolves.
And didn't the current governor of VA go this whack job's school, writing an offensive thesis to make the whack job happy? Someone should ask McDonnell what he thinks of his mentor's words for the injured and dead in poor Haiti.
Posted by: Fate1 | January 13, 2010 11:08 PM
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This guy gives christianity a bad name. He is so unbiblical and self righteous! I as a christian do not associate at all with Richardson, but heartily condemn his statement.
Posted by: sadness | January 13, 2010 11:10 PM
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Someone in here could explain to me the difference between a fundamentalist Muslim and fundamentalist Christian?
Posted by: Diori | January 13, 2010 11:14 PM
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Thank God Obama and Clinton are on top of this crisis for America's part. Can you imagine the non-response from the Bush republicans had they won the election?
McCain would be sleeping and Palin would be asking:
Haiti? Where's that? I can't see it from my house! Is it in the country of Africa?
Posted by: Fate1 | January 13, 2010 11:15 PM
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"Someone in here could explain to me the difference between a fundamentalist Muslim and fundamentalist Christian?"
Posted by: Diori
One tends towards lying to protect the faith and the other tends toward killing to protect the faith.
Posted by: Fate1 | January 13, 2010 11:17 PM
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No one could ever convince me that the Christ I embrace would cause the devastation wreaked on the innocent in Haiti yesterday.
Now if they told me that the tectonic plates slipped causing a natural disaster, I'd say they were using their God given brain.
Posted by: OleLadySquawking | January 13, 2010 11:18 PM
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Jesus weeps
Posted by: coloradodog | January 13, 2010 11:19 PM
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Some posters are saying that Pat gives Christianity a bad name, but he's just verbalizing what a lot of them already think. They should hold him up as their hero, as the vacuous muawiyah and mchlchrom do.
Of course, they feel persecuted, as good Christians always do, and they know so much more about the issue than anybody else. If we could trade in persecution and pomposity, these two could pay for the rebuilding of Haiti.
Posted by: Rationalista | January 13, 2010 11:24 PM
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Diori asked, "Someone in here could explain to me the difference between a fundamentalist Muslim and fundamentalist Christian?"
If you will define what do you mean by "fundamentalist" I will take a stab at answering your question.
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 13, 2010 11:33 PM
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One thing I am convinced of, Pat Robertson is an evil man. As an retired ordained minister he is to evangelical pastors what child molesters are to Catholic Priests. I pity his future in the afterlife.
monty keeling
Posted by: cstation | January 13, 2010 11:39 PM
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With this sort of comment Robertson puts himself in the same category as violent Islamic fundamentalists. If he had the power,he probably would have had Haiti bombed flat years ago and no doubt welcomes this earthquake as some sort of just punishment. I guess most christians would say that this sort of event is a test of faith, Robertson seems to think it confirms he has the ear of God. As for Limbaugh, his recent health scare was no doubt an unconscious attempt to win favour with the many who wish him dead.
Posted by: gb836 | January 13, 2010 11:41 PM
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MUAWIAYAH
Why not?
Posted by: djohnson | January 13, 2010 11:44 PM
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THANKS FATE1, BUT I WOULD NOT CALL THAT 'FAITH' WHICH IMPLIES THE NAME OF GOD.
GOD, IN ANY RELIGION IS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND COMPASSION.
COULD YOU SEE GOD IN ROBERTSON'S WORDS? COULD YOU SEE ALA IN THE FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIMS ACTIONS?
Posted by: Diori | January 13, 2010 11:45 PM
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I think it's more likely that Pat Robertson is in league with demagoguery -- which is tantamount to be in league with the devil.
"I was born and raised in Haiti, and I am a graduate of the State University in Port-au-Prince. I am also a believer in the Lord Jesus-Christ in accordance with the Bible. In all of my studies of Haitian history, however, I have yet to find a good evidence of even the idea of Satan’s assistance in the Independence War, let alone a satanic pact.
For quite some time now, several articles on the Internet have mentioned the existence of an iron pig statue in Port-au-Prince as a monument to commemorate Haiti’s so-called pact with the devil through Vodou. The statue would be in remembrance of a pig that was killed during the gathering by the African slaves. In an effort to know more about that rumor, I contacted several authors about the exact location of the pig statue that’s incidentally nowhere to be found in the country. Their answer was complete silence, a simple apology, or just the removal of the reference from their texts."
http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
Posted by: patrick3 | January 13, 2010 11:47 PM
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Pat Robertson is not representative of Christians. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is a mantra we embrace, not "they are being punished for having a pact with the devil." Christ loved the sinners, and sacrificed himself for all of us who sin. And he will probably be the best one to deal with Pat Robertson.
Posted by: SavingGrace | January 13, 2010 11:48 PM
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If Pat Robertson was the true Christian he claims to be, he would go to Haiti and give all of his and his church's money to the people of Haiti right now. Every last cent of it.
Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | January 13, 2010 11:49 PM
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"Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples saying, 'The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments; And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues; And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi! Rabbi!!
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in Heaven.
Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves'."
Posted by: samxstreampools | January 13, 2010 11:50 PM
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Diori--
Here's my take on the difference between a fundamentalist Christian and a fundamentalist Muslim--not much. There might be slight dogmatic differences between Christianity and Islma, but all religions put their adherents at risk of doing violent things to other people because an imaginary being ("God") or a religious leader (who, like Pat Robertson believes he has a direct line to "God") says it's the right (moral) thing to do. Muslim jihadists are simply very strict and active adherents of their faith. If Christian fundamentalists ever got the necessary political power, it would be amazing to see the persecution of "non-believers," homosexuals and women like me who might dare to call their hogwash what it is. The abortion doctor killers are good examples of Christian fundamentalism at work. This is why people like Pat Robertson are truly chilling.
Posted by: Rationalista | January 13, 2010 11:51 PM
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LOVE it! Give this demon enough rope to hang himself and bring down all the evangelicals with him. The best way to expose wolves in sheep's clothing is to shine the spotlight on them. Between this and Palin's imminent gig on Fox, a lot of eyes will be opened. Keep it coming! Praise the Lord and pass the popcorn...
Posted by: SurlyGirly | January 13, 2010 11:53 PM
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Robertson's comments are so ludicrous that I wouldn't have believed he actually uttered them if I hadn't seen the video myself. It sounds like a bad parody on SNL. His words are cruel, stupid, crazy, hurtful. To suggest that innocent families in 2010 are being punished for a legend about something that purportedly happened 200+ years ago is sick at best, damaging at worst. ("True story"? Pat, were you there? Do you know anybody who was there? What documentation do you have? Yeah, I thought so.) Christians--and I was raised among your ranks--take note: This man's ignorance and bigotry threaten everything you believe in. He only hurts your cause. People will assume you're like him. Dismiss what he says. Distance yourself from him. Default to compassion, not to condemnation.
Posted by: lansingeverett | January 13, 2010 11:56 PM
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Coloradodog--are you truly a Colorado resident?
Posted by: Rationalista | January 13, 2010 11:56 PM
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ok robertson was wrong - the hatians like act like pigs because in fact they are lazy like pigs.
these people are so lazy they dont even pick up the garbage. even pictures before the quake show garbage everywhere. even poor people can pick up the trash.
they have the highest rate of aids in an era where everyone knows what causes aids.
they have an island paradise and its a garbage dump. the other side of the island is the dominican republic and its not as poor as haiti. why do you think that is?
because the people of haiti would rather sit on their butts and have someone else do it. im amazed these are the same people who defeated the french.
these people have been getting a billion a year in aid and what did they do with it - its the same dump it always was.
where is the roads they were supposed to build?
where is any industry at all. oups - sorry - that would require work - so industry is out.
give them food, shelter, medical - help with their immediate needs and then leave. let them rebuild their own country.
Posted by: infantry11b4faus | January 13, 2010 11:57 PM
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Now Al-Qaeda will study Voodoo .
Posted by: PIA9 | January 14, 2010 12:07 AM
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"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."
Even if his proposition were correct, Robertson is far afield from his purported faith. One is led to question exactly whose son Pat Robertson is.
And thank you to SAMXSTREAMPOOLS for quoting a set of verses that seem to be far too often ignored.
Posted by: MycroftH | January 14, 2010 12:07 AM
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Justice will be the day (and it's coming soon) when Pat has to look God in the eye and face up to what he's done.
Posted by: andyinbethesda | January 14, 2010 12:08 AM
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It's statements like this and COUNTLESS others that make me more liberal EVERY day. I want as much distance from his side of any argument as I can get.
Posted by: tptdave | January 14, 2010 12:14 AM
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Pat Robertson is an ass. Pure and simple, just an ass
Posted by: sammsammus | January 14, 2010 12:17 AM
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And once more a minion of the conservative "religious" right spews out some obscene feces in the name of God. This time it's old Gordy "Pat" Robertson's turn. But lets look at it realistically, people. What else would you really expect from a spoiled brat, from a Virginia Southern Baptist political family, who spent his service time in Korea tending the officers club liquer closet and porking Korean prostitutes? You'd expect that somewhere along the way he'd find God, right? Well, somewhere along the way he will.
Posted by: Doowadiddy | January 14, 2010 12:17 AM
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Yes, we should help Haiti coz the people are now suffering there. But we should not forget that stupidity is self-destructive.
Today it is Haiti. Next it will be the liberal evolutionist part of America and the world and much worst will happen. And this is the help America needs now before it's too late --- REPENT.
"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch."
Posted by: spidermean2 | January 14, 2010 12:18 AM
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I wonder how many people will die as a result of Pat Robertson's verbal farts. I'm thinking, "none".
On the other hand, it's a short journey from concluding that "fundamentalism is murderous" to "good social policy involves liquidating fundamentalists."
See Robespierre, Stalin (former seminarian), Pol Pot.
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 14, 2010 12:22 AM
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I am an American living in Australia and people here and in NZ (I lived there for 10 years) think most Americans are conservative religious fanantics and news like this just feeds that assumption. Why does the media make this kind of rubbish headline material?? When you look at religious webpage comments most of the comments agree with this idiot. I have been called a bloody yank here many times because of the Bush administration and now the religious fanantics are giving people another excuse to not only dislike America but its people too.
Posted by: wendywoodsnz | January 14, 2010 12:22 AM
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A God that goes around killing men, women, and children because he does not like their religion is not a God worthy of worship.
Posted by: exbrown | January 14, 2010 12:24 AM
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Pat Robertson is a typical Christian, no better and no worse than most of the ilk.
He's disgusting, but nothing he said would surprise anybody who follows the "new anglican movement," which hates gay people and takes its orders from homophobes in Uganda and Nigeria.
How I hope I will live to throw worms on his grave!
Posted by: drankland | January 14, 2010 12:24 AM
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I try not to let 'Will somebody please smack him?' enter into interfaith dialogue, but in this case I'll make an exception.
Posted by: Paganplace | January 14, 2010 12:25 AM
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Next time I see Pat, I hope he has a nice permanent smile on his face.
Posted by: drankland | January 14, 2010 12:26 AM
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Boy, oh boy! Pat Robertson sounds like a Christian Taliban! Rather than to show compassion, and say something kind to lift the spirits of these poor humans beings, who have endured so much pain in this earthquake, and in these last few years, Pat Robertson had to say such a horrible thing. I just don't know why any Christian in his right mind would listen to Pat Robertson. The man is insensitive and evil, and no different than Osama Bin Laden, who also made some terrible comments about the people who died in 9-11.
Posted by: fridaolay | January 14, 2010 12:26 AM
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I am an American living in Australia and people here and in NZ (I lived there for 10 years) think most Americans are conservative religious fanantics and news like this just feeds that assumption. Why does the media make this kind of rubbish headline material?? When you look at religious webpage comments most of the comments agree with this idiot. I have been called a bloody yank here many times because of the Bush administration and now the religious fanantics are giving people another excuse to not only dislike America but its people too.
Posted by: wendywoodsnz | January 14, 2010 12:27 AM
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This ignoramus trumpeting his malignant superstition as some sort of religion has become criminally insane. He is Public Enemy Number One as he spreads his brand of poison as gospel.
Posted by: 24choi | January 14, 2010 12:28 AM
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Loved this line:
"It's also possible Robertson doesn't know what he's talking about."
Gee, y'think?
Posted by: Pamsm | January 14, 2010 12:35 AM
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If Pat Robertson says the Haitians made a pact with the devil a hundred or more years ago, he should know. After all, he is the devil himself.
Posted by: dsrobins | January 14, 2010 12:38 AM
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Yes, we should help Haiti coz the people are now suffering there. But we should not forget that stupidity is self-destructive.
Today it is Haiti. Next it will be the liberal evolutionist part of America and the world and much worst will happen. And this is the help America needs now before it's too late --- REPENT.
"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch."
If you guys think that you are better off than Haiti, think again coz more catastrophe (even man-made) are coming. WW3 is just around the corner because the world has gone mad.
Posted by: spidermean2 | January 14, 2010 12:38 AM
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If Pat Robertson says the Haitians made a pact with the devil a hundred or more years ago, he should know. After all, he is the devil himself.
Posted by: dsrobins | January 14, 2010 12:39 AM
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When will the Christian Church take this nut case's microphone away and throw him under the bus?
Posted by: glenglish | January 14, 2010 12:40 AM
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The reason why Pat Robertson and tens of millions of Americans believe this junk is that they are CORRECT if you read the Bible literally.
The Bible has some good lessons, but it is often bunk. People behave for a while and God treats them well. Then, they misbehave and God punishes them. Then, they behave for a decade or two. Then, they get complacent and misbehave -- and God smotes them again.
This goes on and on and on.
The solution is for people to confront the truth about religion instead of ripping someone who is literally correct if you really believe the stupidity of religion.
Shalom,
ZWrite
Posted by: zwrite | January 14, 2010 12:41 AM
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Just one more fundamentalist hater.
Posted by: whocares666 | January 14, 2010 12:42 AM
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I wonder if we have more maniacs among us or if it just seems that way because they get so much press.
Posted by: Farnaz1Mansouri1 | January 14, 2010 12:46 AM
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Keep talking Pat. You are the best representative there is for what the religious right really stands for.
Posted by: twm1 | January 14, 2010 12:46 AM
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Just think of a scenario. Is it possible that someday the unbelievers posting here could be burning in hell while Pat Robertson is beside his Savior?
I've read the Bible thru and I can say, that it is possible. I don't know Pat but he's a believer and that makes it possible.
Repent before it's too late.
Posted by: spidermean2 | January 14, 2010 12:46 AM
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The United States of America is home to some of the world's most fundamentalist Christians, radicals if you will. The scary part is that in a country of 300 million people, there are numbers in excess of a millionthat would fully agree with Robertson on this and all that he has said in the past. In our ever shrinking Global Village, these words are sent around the planet in an instant and people in the middle East, Africa and beyond see them as representing America. This is what makes people like Robertson or even Glenn Back so very dangerous. The breed hate and misundterstadning. The Muslim world deals with this all the time. With 1.3 billion Muslims in the world over, even if only 3% are radical fundamentalists, they have come to represent the other 97%. Religion is not a bad thing, it's people who pervert it that are making problems for all concerned.
Posted by: David_Anthony_Hohol | January 14, 2010 12:51 AM
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I'd like to see the pact with the devil he's referring to. It's scary that people who use the Bible to promote themselves have an audience. It's even scarier that they have so much control over our government.
Posted by: DGSPAMMAIL | January 14, 2010 12:51 AM
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Pat Robertson is a prime example of what to much religion will do to a person. this man has clearly lost his mine, its a shame.
Posted by: kentheba | January 14, 2010 12:58 AM
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If there's one thing that muslims hate about the west, it is the liberal, gay marrying atheistic immorality.
It is that simple but the idiots want to twist the facts.
Christians like Pat Robertson are to be admired. Im sure he has some relief goods going towards Haiti by now while the atheists have non to speak of.
Posted by: spidermean2 | January 14, 2010 12:58 AM
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Cue the theme from "The Twilight Zone" ...
Posted by: SurlyGirly | January 14, 2010 1:07 AM
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spidermean2, you and the Archbishop of Washington DC seem to agree that same-sex couples threaten the domestic tranquility more than young thugs in posession of handguns, although I suspect he'd regard you as a cockroach on his vestments.
My prayer for you tonight is that you meet a same-sex couple and a young thug with a gun during a single 24 hour period.
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 14, 2010 1:09 AM
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The Bible isn't meant to be read and enacted literally. Those who do are engaging in magical thinking. The Bible is literature.
We must have different Gods. My loving God would not punish his people in this way. and I won't be burning in your idiotic mythical Hell either - there is no hell other than the one we create for ourselves here on earth.
Jesus would NEVER blame Haitians for a natural disaster. You people such as Spidermean should be ashamed of yourselves, with your vicious thoughts and as liars to call yourselves followers of Christ. Read your Bible again and try to keep in mind that Jesus preached love and acceptance.
Posted by: kathleen_oconnor | January 14, 2010 1:14 AM
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Lord have mercy I tire of people who talk about "My God" and who are quite sure what Jesus would have done in any given situation. What need for an actual Jesus of Nazareth? He's just whatever anyone thinks is right.
Or perhaps there really was a Jesus of Nazareth - but if there was, you most assuredly won't know how he'd feel about Apple vs Microsoft by closing your eyes and wishing.
Good grief!
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 14, 2010 1:19 AM
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I am now convinced that Pat R is himself the son of the devil. When was the last time his empire spent money on those who need help, support and compasion? Instead, he built a system to perpetuate the work of the devil like a university, a law school and a TV program. The good news is that the crook has only a few years left before he meets his father in a very warm place. May he rotten in hell, Amen.
Posted by: chuckwoz | January 14, 2010 1:23 AM
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"Fear God and keep His commandments for it is the whole duty of man" (King Solomon)
If you don't follow that verse, here is the consequence :
"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch."
That day is coming coz people are becoming so stupid and does not understand the simplicity of the Bible.
Posted by: spidermean2 | January 14, 2010 1:24 AM
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Pat Robertson is an ignoramus.
His current statement about Haiti is meaningless because the notion of god and devil are amusing mythology. Nevertheless, he chose the wrong moment to make this idiotic statement about Haiti especially when Haitians are experiencing a natural calamity of the first magnitude.
He probably needs Pepto-Bismol or Loperamide to cure his logorrhea and verbal diarrhea.
Posted by: Pierre_F_Lherisson | January 14, 2010 1:25 AM
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Does the FCC monitor the airwaves at all anymore? How long is Robertson's "Cult" going to be allowed on the air? This is not the first time for that old fart. There should at least be a fine or something to shut this guy up.
Real Christians dont believe in this hogwash. And those that do, certainly don't belong on the airwaves.
While we are at it, isn't there some snake worshipper out there looking for some airtime? Perhaps he could replace the old guy--he'd be more entertaining and less offensive to millions of christians.
Posted by: tmcproductions2004 | January 14, 2010 1:28 AM
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tmcproductions2004, God forbid I should defent Pat Robertson, but I would rather that the FCC were not empowered to distinguish between real and pseudo Christians.
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 14, 2010 1:31 AM
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Pat Robertson has branches in some parts of the world and his TV programs are contributing positively to building up the lives of many people.
Voodoo is a devil's tool and anybody who practices it ruins his life.
Posted by: spidermean2 | January 14, 2010 1:33 AM
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Pat Robertson likes attention; shame on the so-called "mainstream media" for pandering to and adding legitimacy to his lifelong habit of being nasty, petty, immature and mean-spirited in the name of God. Is the Washington Post that hard up for "news" that you felt the need to heap this ugly insanity onto the mega tragedy that is the earthquake in Haiti. 150 UN workers feared dead, tens of thousands possibly and you make Pat Robertson an important hyperlink to the story. He's nuts - what's the WaPo's excuse?
Posted by: innocentia74 | January 14, 2010 1:34 AM
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Yes, we need to pay attention to Robertson so that we are reminded what an idiot he is! But the really scary thing is that there appears to be quite a few people who listen to this jerk.
Posted by: repmisc | January 14, 2010 1:35 AM
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Who are those who support Pat Robertson and his dangerous idiocy?
God fearing, progress hating,Republican leaning Sarah Palin think alikes?
And these are the folk who say they should have the Presidency? Heaven help us because their God of hate will most certainly not.
Posted by: Charles15 | January 14, 2010 1:41 AM
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God reveals himself to those that believe in Him! Others find, a god, that fits their lifestyle or beliefs...Many have sold their souls to the devil,thinking he is all powerful and protective.
Pat Robinson's remarks should be based on history and The Bible!
What if he is right?
You make the call?
Have you ever heard of Sodom and Gomorrah?
Posted by: sdavis4 | January 14, 2010 1:49 AM
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14 of the 15 most dangerous cities are liberal democrats. That's the fact and what are the facts that christians are dangerous?
Posted by: spidermean2 | January 14, 2010 1:53 AM
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An Islamicist looking at this mess might say that "God made Pat Robertson make a fool of himself."
My take is that Pat Robertson made a fool of himself. You know, exactly the way the sentence says.
Posted by: douglaslbarber | January 14, 2010 1:54 AM
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Please lord let all americans see who the truly Christian people are. The AMerican populace is filled with generosity and will do the right thing by our neighbors in Haiti in this incredible hour of need. It is the Christian thing to do period. Project Medishare an organization founded by Dr. Barth Green Chief of Neurosurgery at the University of Miami projectmedishare.org has decades of history bringing medical relief to the poorest country in our hemisphere Haiti. Look at the Miami Heralds picture gallery from today and see Dr. Green and over forty multidiscipline doctors from UM already doing their work in the midst of the devastation. Bless these doctors and all who contribute to helping those in need i.e. the real Christians. Common racist thieves like Robertson and all like him who hide behind religion and get tax breaks should be put behind bars for life. Too bad there are some folks ignorant enough to actually believe them and send them money. If not now then later karma.
Posted by: jbento | January 14, 2010 1:55 AM
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Pat should should do the right thing and choke to death on one of his many Rolex watches. He is a pox on his followers. I believe his "religion" is the Assembly of Fraud.
Posted by: flyers_4n | January 14, 2010 1:58 AM
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Pat, just ask yourself. What would Jesus do? He would show compasion and love. Who are you sir, to think you know the Will of God? You do not represent me or millions of other Christians. We see the pain and the misery of our fellow man and say my God what can we do? We do not blame innocent people in their time of great need. Shame on you!!!!
Posted by: patisok | January 14, 2010 1:59 AM
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What a sick, sick, ignorant man this is. And look out Virginia, your new governor learned about governing at his "school".
You asked for it, you got it. The new, English-speaking Taliban. Talk about spitting on the troops.
Posted by: B2O2 | January 14, 2010 2:01 AM
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Screwjob2 and Pat Robertson and dottydo should all shut their pie holes because nothing but excrement. lies and fear mongering ever comes from them. The boys in my Jersey neighborhood would put at least a hospital job on them if they came by there with their idiotic nonsense. Bless the people of Haiti lord.
Posted by: jbento | January 14, 2010 2:05 AM
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screwjob2, I agree with you. I just question Pat Robertson on the absence of love, empathy, and sympathy for these people.
Posted by: SteelWheel25 | January 14, 2010 2:11 AM
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History will repeat itself if the people don't learn. The timing may not be right but Pat Robertson is just saying the truth.
Haiti is a victim of false religions (Catholicism's Liberation Theology, Voodoo, etc).
More of this kind in the near future will affect the world and mostly the disaster would be man-made.
The people should learn to avert the disaster. And by the kind of responses Pat Robertson gets, it's a sign that the world has never learned.
Posted by: spidermean2 | January 14, 2010 2:15 AM
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STOP REPORTING REV. ROBERTON'S RANTINGS!
Pat Robertson is an old man. He probably does not recall from one day to the next the odd ramblings he utters. We all have elders among our families and friends who reach the point of senility and experience loss of critical reasoning capacities.
Out of courtesy to his family I urge the media to not report his ramblings. In the meantime, we should pray that Roberston receive abundant grace to see how off the mark his comments are and to stop making them.
Posted by: P4Potomac | January 14, 2010 2:20 AM
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I, for one, appreciate being kept abreast of the latest rantings of this quack. It's better than anything appearing in the daily comics!
Posted by: prouddem | January 14, 2010 2:34 AM
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Who is this devil? When has he shown himself to CNN, Fox, The Washington Post? The readers and everyone with a camera? Does he give interviews?
Pat Robertson taking the opportunity to hate in the face of disaster is an argument for human evil however.
Posted by: Nymous | January 14, 2010 2:45 AM
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Mr Robertson has got some problem with historical facts. Haiti became fully independant four years before NAPOLEON THE THIRD was born. In 1804.
Posted by: bvpbvp | January 14, 2010 2:48 AM
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Pat Robertson's comment is offensive.
I would like it to be registered and for the Post to cut this guy off...enough is enough already...it's not news...it's sad
Posted by: aussiebones | January 14, 2010 3:08 AM
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Here's a man who would destroy the world with a smile on his face in the name of christianity. He's disgusting, I just wanna puke on him.
Posted by: Chops2 | January 14, 2010 3:09 AM
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I propose a modification to the first amendment which explicitly limits Pat Robertson's right to free speech. Literally the amendment should be: "Everyone has a right to speak their mind with the exception of Pat Robertson"
Posted by: randysbailin | January 14, 2010 3:25 AM
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Well, if you really do believe in making pacts with the Devil, you might not want an entire nation of them seriously p.o'd at you.
So casting the first stone is some tele-preacher who gets his money from Blood Diamond African mines staffed with child labor.
Whatever else you can say about someone who is devoid of compassion enough to wring this idiocy out of so much suffering, the one thing you can be sure of is that it n0t remotely Christ-like.
Robertson speaks for Christ in exactly the same way Bin Laden speaks for Mohammed. Bin Laden would have made pretty much the same remark about Israel.
It is getting so that only the religious symbolism differentiates rabid fundamentalists these days.
Posted by: gala1 | January 14, 2010 4:09 AM
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After reading this crap, I thank god I'm an Atheist!
Posted by: jnik | January 14, 2010 4:38 AM
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This guy is a HATEMONGER! Pure and simple. I have listened to him speak about muslims, women, gays, non jewish middle easterners and all he spews is hate towards those who disagree with him. He is no man of God.
Posted by: gandalong3 | January 14, 2010 4:44 AM
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Please send money to support any Haitian relief effort instead of Christian Broadcasting Network.
If Mr. Robertson really wants to battle the devil, he should send money there too.
Posted by: smileyzjohn | January 14, 2010 5:21 AM
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And watch "family values" Republican politicians line up beside this jerk for photo ops - just to get 50 more voters.
Posted by: angie12106 | January 14, 2010 5:26 AM
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Whenever Robertson opens his mouth I think...thank god I am an atheist
Posted by: LookingFromOutside | January 14, 2010 5:29 AM
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Now why, if one stays with the Bible, does the story of Noah and the rainbow and John 3:16 come to mind and make one take withe a huge mine of skepticism any belief that God would abandon his people.
Haiti has had a great deal of troubles, but I think a lot of them have had to deal with human corruption, greed, and weather patterns more than the presence and absence of God.
Now is not the time to worry about demons of any sort. Let us thank our higher power for tender mercies, and let the better angels of our nature go out and help nine million people who have immediate need of real assistance get over this disaster.
Something about "Love thy neighbor as thyself"
Posted by: Paladin7b | January 14, 2010 5:44 AM
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Pat Robertson: Old, white, male, southern, republican, christian.
Did I leave anything out?
Listen to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson blaming the ACLU for 9/11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I
Can you imagine an America where these evil men and their followers are running the government? Iran, Saudi Arabia ... I suppose we can imagine it.
Posted by: khote14 | January 14, 2010 5:48 AM
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Thanks, WP and all the mainstream media, for once again giving an outlet to those who aren't mature enough to handle it. He only acts out when others tolerate it -and with you guys around, he has nothing to worry about.
It's time to add the REPORT LAME COVERAGE button to the comments section.
Posted by: joneshn | January 14, 2010 5:53 AM
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So in Pat Robertson's religion God punishes an entire nation for 300 years with grinding poverty, annual hurricanes, and now earthquakes because three hundred years ago they wanted to throw out the colonial French? Thousands of Haiti children are born and die young annually because they can't get food because Pat Robertson's God is punishing them for a supposed pact with the devil done over 300 years ago? Was the Catholic Archbishop of Haiti crushed in an earthquake in 2010 because someone completely unrelated to him 300 years ago may have made a promise to Pat Robertson's devil? Pat is evil and insane. Money is Pat Robertson's only God and he has become personally wealthy on the donations of the simpletons who believe his hatefulness.
Posted by: merrylees | January 14, 2010 5:58 AM
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As a Virginian, it makes me said to think our new governor went to this pitiful man's law school. Just because Jesus said "I don't come to judge..." it doesn't mean Pat can't.
Posted by: TonyinLynchburg | January 14, 2010 6:01 AM
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As a Haitian-American I am beyond disgusted that he would make these comments. I have never been a fan of his, but I would hope that as a "religious leader" he would ask people to pray for the Haitian people.
Posted by: knarty | January 14, 2010 6:03 AM
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For a Senator's son he obviously was dropped as a baby.
First let's clarify. I don't think Gabriel, Moses, Paul or even Jesus made him utter these sad words.
We did not deserve Katrina, Pearl Harbor, or 911.
We did not deserve Galveston etc.
If we are destroyed as Babylon was we will not deserve it despite our evil intentions in the world. Lot was spared the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
This post was delivered elsewhere but the sign if any is that we should help our fellow man not destroy him.
"400k that's it.
We can spend thousands on cellphones.
Thousands on Itunes.
Order 5 dollar coffee drinks.
While God has given us free will to do what we choose , when we want.
God does not love war.
Yet we spend $1.05 trillion dollars allocated to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. See nationalpriorities.org
God has said "At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven."
Jesus has said when I was hungry and ill did you assist me.
2 billion is not enough to fix the injured and rebuild Haiti.
Love is the way.
Posted by: Midwestmoviewriter | January 14, 2010 6:08 AM
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Send Pat a question....
I asked him, based on his obvious familiarity with Satan's methodology, if he were in fact Old Scratch himself...
Don't lower yourself to his level. No profanity or threats....I suggest a mocking tone. Any thing more validates his world view...
Enjoy!
Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 14, 2010 6:10 AM
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He represents the WORSE of conservatives.
People don't cause their own tragedies, like earthquakes. Would he say that if the earthquake had been in Greece or Italy?
Posted by: nkwari | January 14, 2010 6:15 AM
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But what does the REAL leader of the GOP think? She has a new gig at Fox to allow her to tell us all.
Posted by: steveboyington | January 14, 2010 6:21 AM
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Pat Robertson has long been beyond the pale, and his opinions on many topics remain medieval and grow more nonsensical with every passing year.
What troubles me is that Virginians in 2009 elected as their governor a man, Bob McDonnell, who is a protege of Mad Pat and shares many of his prejudices.
Posted by: kdhcherry | January 14, 2010 6:22 AM
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Finally, we can clearly see that the purpose, God’s very design, for Pat Robertson is to provide the clear evidence that education and wealth are NOT a synonymous with intelligence.
Posted by: NewThoughts | January 14, 2010 6:27 AM
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Or is it possible that Robertson is psychotic?
Posted by: theFieldMarshall | January 14, 2010 6:28 AM
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The most important words in the essay above are, "we should pay attention to the crazy things Robertson says because his thinking reflects the thinking of millions of fundamentalist Christians, many of whom support his multi-million-dollar "Christian" media empire and the political views he espouses." The writer is absolutely right. That said, we should make it a crusade to identify every one of them and lock them up forever.
Posted by: nashvillemykl | January 14, 2010 6:29 AM
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Satan tried to kill Rush over the holidays...Or maybe it was God trying to kill Rush?
Either way, neither one went after the President and neither one had enough strength to finish off El Rushbo.
I wish Pat, with his deep well of wisdom, would weigh in on that issue.
Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 14, 2010 6:35 AM
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Jesus spoke of men like Pat Roberts: "But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."
Posted by: jsc1949 | January 14, 2010 6:40 AM
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What I find offensive is the Washington Post reporting things so inaccurate.
CBN spokesman specifically said Robertson was not saying the earthquake was a result of the pact with the devil.
Either you conveniently failed to report that, or you did not know that. Either way, it shows the Post's incompetency!
Posted by: danielchi | January 14, 2010 6:40 AM
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Pat Robinson is RIGHT! The commenter’s here are to blind or just to ignorant to see it! God has taken his wrath out on America in the form of Obama. The only way to restore God’s faith in America is to elect Palin in 2012! Palin 2012! She is what America deserves.
Posted by: kparc | January 14, 2010 6:40 AM
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"Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sins." 2 Kings 14:5-7
Pat doesn't even know his own Bible. Unles, of course, his "Bible" resides at the accountant's office and mostly quotes the denomination of dead Presidents.
Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 14, 2010 6:43 AM
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Is this man still alive? He sure isn't relevant. What a sad, sad person.
Posted by: ujone | January 14, 2010 6:43 AM
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I was reading through comments people left. They all simply assume was the Post is written was accurate.
The Post should be ashamed of themselves of such faulty reporting, leading people to reach incorrect conclusions!
Posted by: danielchi | January 14, 2010 6:44 AM
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A real man of God would not spew hatred. He would offer assistance. But not one cent has this colonial racist offered in help of the truly downtrodden. Jesus Christ himself (remember him Pat) told the story of the Good Samaritan. The New Testament of the Bible (remember that book Pat) speaks of The Sermon on the Mountain, Christ's principal teaching of love, real justice and kindness. It states in part "Judge not, lest ye be judged... In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you... Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves...Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy."
Robertsion and his followers are false prophets, all about political power and money, not Christianity. They should be condemened, shunned and ignored for what they are.
Posted by: msommerville | January 14, 2010 6:44 AM
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Obviously, even bringing up anything Robertson says was meant to bring out the Christian, GOP, conservative, (or anyone or thing other than liberal)bashers. Why else would anyone even give an audience to his ravings? He doesn't speak for me or for anyone I know. Those who hold up these bad apples to represent an entire group simply showcase their lazy and/or prejudicial thought processes.
Posted by: Lilycat11 | January 14, 2010 6:45 AM
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Pat is one sick puppy...and thats being kind
Posted by: hfaulk01 | January 14, 2010 6:48 AM
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How can the Post report such things that they know are inaccurate? If you wish to lie about politicans and misreport what they do, that is fine. But please do not do that about religious leaders.
Most readers simply accept your reporting as 'facts', without independently verifying the accuracy of your report. Therefore the Post has a responsibility to be accurate in its reporting. When you fail to do that, such as in this report, you fail your audience.
People are suffering in Haiti. And to mis-report on a group that is serving and helping the people of Haiti is incomprehensable!
Posted by: danielchi | January 14, 2010 6:50 AM
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Maybe the time has come to pray for Pat Robertson to die.
Posted by: democratus | January 14, 2010 6:50 AM
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"See where it got them? Get a big natural disaster and they are totally helpless with no idea where to begin." Hmmm. I seem to recall a great power, with its capital intact, being totally flummoxed by a big natural disaster--all not too many years ago.
PG should know about pacts with evil powers.
Posted by: trh123 | January 14, 2010 6:51 AM
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So what exactly are YOU suggesting, Mr. Waters? That God had NOTHING to do with this? Things just HAPPEN beyond powerless God's control? Or that there is no God in the first place?
Posted by: gasmonkey | January 14, 2010 6:54 AM
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This sick SOB should have died long ago. Christianity gone amuck.........
Posted by: aeaustin | January 14, 2010 6:58 AM
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The bin Laden comparison is, unfortunately, valid... and his warriors are a hefty portion of Teabag Nation. Take that into consideration, Independants, when you sit back to ponder which direction you want to throw your vote. They really believe this stuff, and when they get their marching orders from the Pat Robertsons of this country, it's God's word, and you know where that goes...
Posted by: seakeys | January 14, 2010 6:59 AM
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Many Christians are only interested in helping the down-trodden as a vehicle for coerced conversion. If someone in a position of weakness comes to rely on your largess, it's much easier to control them.
"On Wings of Eagles" is the worst. They use guilt to extract money from Christians to "help" aged Russian Jews. One of their operators admitted to me that the goal was conversion. I pretended to be unwilling to donate unless we were working "to bring these people to the Lord." As a young man, I was denied a meal at a soup kitchen because I felt that as a non-Christian I should not have to listen to the sermon prior to being fed.
Any Christian charity that is tied in any way to conversion or participation in worship is not true charity.
I believe in the concept of "A gift, freely given". If you expect ANY reciprication, you don't understand unconditional love.
Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 14, 2010 6:59 AM
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Athena4, the link you provided mentions nothing about any alleged supernatural pacts. I suspect the story may have its roots in racist myths, since many Christians of that era labeled all pagan religions as devil worship. They also did this for the various American Indian religions.
"Earthquakes are physical events. They have nothing to do with the virtues or lack thereof of the victims. Haiti has suffered a terrible disaster. The appropriate response is to assist in any way possible, not condemn the victims."
Well said.
"I will defend Pat Robertson here not so much for religious reasons but because the overwhelming majority of your comments are so disrespectful, mocking, snide, 'clever,' and anti-everything"
The mocking may or may not be inappropriate. But the issue here is Robertson's disrespect for the Haitians.
Posted by: Carstonio | January 14, 2010 7:01 AM
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It is really frightening that people such as Pat Robertson actually exist and spew out this vitriolic nonsense. The scarier thing is that there are many others who are taken in by this drivel..
Posted by: carl15 | January 14, 2010 7:02 AM
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If you love this just wait for VA's new gov. to take over in a couple of days. He's a Pat Robertson Regent U. alum. Maybe he can get Pat into the state cabinet as Secretary of Morality and Anti-Demonism.
Posted by: wille66 | January 14, 2010 7:06 AM
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I hear God wants him dead
Posted by: SofaKingCool2009 | January 14, 2010 7:15 AM
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Just to make sure I have this right -- the point of your discussion is to say, let's not talk about the bat$#!+ crazy things Robertson says. And you're doing this by writing about what he says? Giving him more press? And providing a forum to the like-minded perpetuate even more ugly discussion?
Hmm. Okay. I mean, one way of doing this would be to just ignore his comment, and instead use this space to call for ideas or suggestions from people of all faiths to help the Haitian victims --try to raise the discussion to. . .what's that thing that Jesus talked about? Loving your neighbor? Something about if my neighbor doesn't have a coat to give him mine?
On the other hand, you could go and be an echo chamber for crazytalk-- and legitimize it. hmm. Interesting choice there. I wonder which one you and your editors will choose.
Posted by: guybrarian | January 14, 2010 7:17 AM
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It may be easy for someone to suggest that being a slave is better than being free. I have not heard many slaves say this. There are many people who practice vodoo through out the world. Just as there are many people who practice christianity. Those people leading christian worship have a far bigger bank account than those practicing vodoo. This make the christian leader better to those who cherish wealth. To the people who where kidnapped and forced to work for their master till death clung to the only religion they knew. In the US, the slave master was smart to strip the slave of his or her religion, language and culture; or, Pat Robinson could say the same thing about the United States.
Posted by: affordabletutor | January 14, 2010 7:19 AM
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Has the Post reporter covering Virginia's new governor asked him if he agrees with his mentor? Would be a good story. It is scary to think what the next four years are going to be like in Virginia. The Post story yesterday tells us that the rightwingers are planning on moves to separate the state from Washington and federal law. Maybe they will try secession again.
Posted by: Charlie1 | January 14, 2010 7:19 AM
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Time to stick a few more pins in the Pat Robertson voodoo doll.
Posted by: Oldpaint | January 14, 2010 7:21 AM
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If God really punishes evil, why did it take several hundred years for the "pact" payback?
If the Big Guy really was into smiting, he has plenty of "real time" payback he could dish out now. Quite a few of his smug followers might be cut down in that harvest.
Maybe he needs to convert from that big "A year is as a day" analog system to something digital. Then we might get some real time smiting like back in the day.
Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 14, 2010 7:21 AM
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Robertson is confused. The "blessing in disguise" is not the earthquake. It is his ridiculous statements that may finally put him into the trash heap of history where he belongs.
Posted by: rjma1 | January 14, 2010 7:23 AM
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It is terribly sad how religion is used as a tool to vault idiots into the limelight, & ofcourse ably assisted by our pathetic media. Haiti, also made deals with the USA, and I am curious as to how this so-appointed religious "leader" would respond?
The people of Haiti have suffered, and continue to suffer the pain of colonialism, interference from its northern neighbours, lack of development & extremem poverty. Religious need to provide inspiration, comfort & and clean heart to lead the terribly unfortunate people.
Posted by: vapaday | January 14, 2010 7:23 AM
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Pat Robertson, doing more to discredit Christianity than any devil or atheist ever could.
Posted by: Krazijoe | January 14, 2010 7:27 AM
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It really is an amazing world. A "pact to the devil"..300 years ago...caused this horrific natural disaster. wow. I'm just flabbergasted that people actually fall for this bull..it :0(
Posted by: WVCrone | January 14, 2010 7:27 AM
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god only knows how many of his Regents University "graduates" are still running loose in our government. A degree from there was a requirement for employment by the Justice Department during the Bush administration.
Posted by: laurelrest | January 14, 2010 7:29 AM
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Whatever did or did not happen in 1791, what relevance could it possibly have to the fate of souls many of whom, especially the babies and small children, were born over 200 years later? For Roberston showing such a stunning lack of compassion for the innocent should strip him of any right to claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ.
Posted by: Harrisburg1 | January 14, 2010 7:33 AM
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Haitian history isn't exactly my area of expertise, but let's say the Haitians of the time made a demonic bargain regarding the French. The Haitians who died as a result of this earthquake weren't involved, so if this is Pat Robertson's idea of divine justice maybe he should urge God to work on his aim.
Besides which, even going with the ridiculous assumption that this disaster can somehow be attributed to the divine, isn't the appropriate Christian response sympathy and charity?
Posted by: whorton1 | January 14, 2010 7:36 AM
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"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about," Robertson said.
Of course, something happened in Haiti a long time ago. It's called life, it's called history. Making a generalist statement like that, alluding to 'something bad' the Haitians did a long time ago, and that God is judging them for it now, is utterly ridiculous. It's also hate speech that intends to start a riot of fear against the Haitians.
So if the Haitians 'dont want to talk about it' (whatever "it" is), Pat Robertson feels he must?
Pat Robertson is 'kicking people when they're down', which is more evil than whatever he thinks they've done to themselves which somehow deserves this devastation.
Do they 'cure' themselves by sending him money, by chance?
Posted by: momof20yo | January 14, 2010 7:36 AM
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Perhaps someone should be aware that most evangicals suggest that all good comes from God ...then perhaps all bad comes from the Devil ??? Perhaps others might suggest that this is nature at its worse..!!! Perhaps soon it will be blamed on Obama ??? But should Pat Roberton meet the devil himself he can ask him .
Posted by: Johns100 | January 14, 2010 7:37 AM
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He's our version of a holocaust denier.
Posted by: stanisman1 | January 14, 2010 7:38 AM
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When and if Pat gets to heaven, the man at the gate will point to his disbeliefs, hate of his follow men and point to the place lost souls go to....
Posted by: steve44122 | January 14, 2010 7:39 AM
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Has Katie Couric asked Sarah Palin whether she agrees with Pat Robertson? The tripe he dishes out sounds like something she would believe.
Posted by: arussell91 | January 14, 2010 7:40 AM
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Watch for Pat Robertsons new movie: "Dances with Snakes". Head of the Christian Taliban movement, filled with hate, raking in the bucks from all the goobers who need someone to hate so they can forget their miserable, uneducated, pointless lives. Hey, don't forget these people actually BELIEVE the Earth is only 6,000 years old.....
Posted by: Watcher1 | January 14, 2010 7:41 AM
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Don't you just love Pat? Is this a great planet or what? This is where ANY crackpot can make millions and spew out anything outrageous and have millions of flaming zealots follow him. Whether we are talking Christianity, Islam, or any other religion, there will ALWAYS be millions who believe this kind of claptrap: my way is the ONLY way to heaven or salvation or whatever. W.C. Fields was right re suckers being born every minute. Lets face it: we humans are dumber than dirt!!!
Posted by: sdansker2002 | January 14, 2010 7:41 AM
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This is just more typical obscene excrement in the name of God from some "leader" of the fundamentalist "religious" right. Only this time it was old Gordon "Pat" Robertson's turn. It accomplishes little or nothing to express outrage at the insane stuff they say or believe. But realistically, in Mr. Robertson's case, what else should be expected coming from a semi-senile ex marine grunt, who burned his brain out back in the Korean War era on booze and hookers?
Posted by: Doowadiddy | January 14, 2010 7:42 AM
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Mat 7:15, 20-23 (NIV) "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves... Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them... Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evil doers!'"
Posted by: msh41 | January 14, 2010 7:44 AM
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This is the same Pat Robertson who several years ago formed a gold mining partnership with Charles Taylor the brutal Liberian war lord turned brutal Liberian dictator. As with most of these televangelists and political priests, when they point a finger at others you can bet there are three pointing right back at them from the same hand. The only pact with the devil I can think of is between them and those who support them.
Posted by: go4it | January 14, 2010 7:46 AM
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Comments like Pat Robinson's is why people avoid organized religion in droves and please don't try to put a pretty face on it. It is what it is.
Posted by: fresno500 | January 14, 2010 7:48 AM
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on the bright side, Robertson will probably die eventually. What an embarrassment he has been for years. And clinically insane, certainly: as a layman I would suggest paranoid psychosis.
Posted by: miglefitz | January 14, 2010 7:49 AM
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True that. What is even more telling is that this is what happens, always, when Blacks are in power. Just look at the whole continent of Africa. Doomed.
Posted by: tjhall1 | January 14, 2010 7:50 AM
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I knew this would be amusing looking at the Demoncrap America-haters spewing their bile against Pat. Hee!
Posted by: tjhall1 | January 14, 2010 7:51 AM
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What more could you expect from this blood-diamond-running money-grubbing charlatan? If anyone knows about pacts with the devil, it's him.
Posted by: geezjan | January 14, 2010 7:51 AM
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Pat Robertson is a fascist. As many comments here make clear he should be investigated and tried for crimes against humanity.
Robertson is the most vile excuse for a human being on the planet.
President Obama has been using assassination squads against drug lords in Afghanistan and Mexico. He would do humanity and America a big favor if he targeted Pat Robertson.
All of Robertson's tools of social and political indoctrination should be shut down too. The college and broadcasting especially.
PAT ROBERTSON'S BRAND OF HATE IS NOT CHRISTIAN.
Posted by: aahpat | January 14, 2010 7:54 AM
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Many people follow Pat Robertson. I used to be one of them in my "goose bump" religious days. I have grown up. Why hasn't Pat Robertson? Because a close reading of his personal history, reading between the lines, shows a strong connection between his "religion" and his political goals. He hasn't grown up because his intentions and motivation have always been the same - personal glory and wealth through manipulation of the ignorant masses. Frank Shaeffer grew up, I highly recommend Shaeffer's book "Crazy for God", I grew up, somewhat; but Pat Robertson will only grow farther from the truth.
Posted by: ghp60 | January 14, 2010 7:55 AM
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UNLESS YE REPENT,
YOU TOO WILL ALSO PERISH.
Posted by: US-conscience | January 14, 2010 7:56 AM
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A lot of religion and religiosity is just entertainment. I think Robertson is just a very effective clown and if it wasn't for the current tragedy, I'd be laughing my head off with the things this man says.
Posted by: ilyanov | January 14, 2010 7:57 AM
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Pat Robertson is a textbook example of a predatory opportunist.
He preys on people who only want to believe in Christ.
He preys on people who have been devastated by natural or man made disasters.
His businesses prey on people in poverty oppressed third world countries that have been subjugated by dictators.
Pat Robertson is the ultimate predator. A free ranging sociopath who needs to be caged or put down.
Posted by: aahpat | January 14, 2010 8:00 AM
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Where to begin.
Pat Robertson's comments about the cause of Haiti's earchquake must leave even his staunchest fans wondering about his sanity.
It's sad enought that he atributes every natural disaster to "God's wrath" on some poor unsuspecting people (Katrina and 9-11 are good examples).
What is even sadder is that his ministry took in over $450 million last year. That means a lot of people around the world actually buy his wacky brand of Christianity.
Not that Robertson acts much like a Christian minister. I think of him more as the Bily Mayes of Christian broadcasting - a hukster who will say anything for attention and viewers.
Where is his compassion? Why isn't he in Haiti feeding the hungry, clothing the poor and healing the sick and injured?
Isn't that what Christ told his followers to do?
Why doesn't he obey Jesus' comand to "love thy neighbor as thyself".
If Christians wonder why they and their faith get such a bad rap they have no farther to look than the cable channel carrying Robertson's 700 Club.
Here you can watch a supposed man of the cloth waxing poetically about how God is punishing Haitians, which vitamins to take, how to eat better, skreeds on government and politics, "news" of the day and a host of other topics.
Perhaps Robertson is just trying to be the Oprah of Christian television.
He also makes sure you hear the pitch to donate money via is telethons.
What you don't hear a lot of is preaching the word of God - his show is more like a combo of QVC, Glenn Beck and Oprah.
Keith Olberman pegged it right last night. they young woman standing next to Robertson during his "analysis" of the cause of the earthquake should have led him off sett and back to his room at the home.
it's time for Robertson to retire.
It's also time for all of his supporters to do the right thing - don't send your money to Robertson and the 700 Club - send it where it will do the most good.
Send it to Haitian relief.
That's something God would appreciate.
Posted by: stephenrhymer | January 14, 2010 8:01 AM
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OK; I didn't read the article, I came directly to the comment section. Why do you bozo's keep printing what that crackhead thinks? No one with more than half a brain cares.
Posted by: Bandelo | January 14, 2010 8:01 AM
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For any of you who are not Christians, Pat Robertson does not speak for Christians and teaches a gospel that is not the "Gospel of Jesus Christ." He is a modern day Elmer Gantry.
His claim that the people of Haiti are being punished by God for making a pact with the devil is unBiblical and has nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It has everything to do with making money, I suspect.
Posted by: InTheMiddle | January 14, 2010 8:03 AM
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Pat, Pat, Pat. You sound like a "crazy old uncle", please stop.
Posted by: areukiddin | January 14, 2010 8:03 AM
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This guy is one of the closest supporters of Virginia's governor-elect.
Posted by: cmckeonjr | January 14, 2010 8:05 AM
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Pat Robinson's god wanted the Haitian to remain in slavery...
Religion, the Great Divider. More wars have been fought in the name of religion than for any other reason.
Posted by: OneFreeMan | January 14, 2010 8:07 AM
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Those of us descended from survivors of the disinheritance and Great Famine of Ireland wonder how we abrogated this pact with the devil, which we obviously shared. Pat Robertson is a disgrace.
Posted by: MDreader1 | January 14, 2010 8:07 AM
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One thing for sure : Pat Robertson doesn't know the first thing about Haïtan history. Haïti gained its independence during the time of Napoleon the first, About half a century before Napoleon the third...
But again the audience he caters to is probably not ashamed but proud of not knowing the first thing about anything except America...
Posted by: pvaleriola | January 14, 2010 8:08 AM
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Pat Robertson's god wanted the Haitian to remain in slavery...
Religion, the Great Divider. More wars have been fought in the name of religion than for any other reason.
Posted by: OneFreeMan | January 14, 2010 8:08 AM
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Obviously this man dropped a massive amount of bricks from his load along time ago. If everyone who is totally offended by Pat were to demonstrate by contributing $10 to a charity supporting Haitian relief, the greater good would be served; let something tremendous come from his ignorance.
Posted by: Donna13 | January 14, 2010 8:09 AM
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Pat Robertson's ability to influence the Virginia governor's race is proof that American democracy has failed.
Someone in the media should be holding the governor elect's feet to the fire today about his association with this deranged sociopath Pat Robertson.
Posted by: aahpat | January 14, 2010 8:10 AM
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LOVE it! Give this demon enough rope to hang himself and bring down all the evangelicals with him.
The best way to expose wolves in sheep's clothing is to shine the spotlight on them.
Between this and Palin's imminent gig on Fox, a lot of eyes will be opened. Keep it coming! Praise the Lord and pass the popcorn...
Posted by: SurlyGirly | January 14, 2010 8:13 AM
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He always been crazy...hes just worse now but not as crazy as the people who go to hear his crazy mouth and believe the crazy sob
Posted by: lucygirl1 | January 14, 2010 8:14 AM
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HIGHSCHOOLTEACHER
YOU DO SHARE VIEWS WITH HIM!!!
You just don't share all of them. Whether you two have more in common, than not, is a question you should be asking yourself, and wondering why that may be just the case. Basically, Republicans are scum, and you freely choose to be one.
Posted by: daweeni | January 14, 2010 8:14 AM
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Where there is death, destruction and mayhem you will find the jackal hell-hound Pat Robertson gnawing on the flash and bones of the victims.
Posted by: aahpat | January 14, 2010 8:15 AM
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Please, please, please do not assume Mr. Robertson speaks for or even reflects the thinking of the majority of Americans who follow God in the Way of Jesus. He doesn't and I cringe when he opens his mouth and makes preposterous statements such as this. He is the exception, not the rule.
Haitians need compassion and prayer and tangible HELP. Not condemnation. Instead of condemning people for the situation they find themselves in (even if they may have "invited" it), Jesus would have us show mercy. Remember the account of the adulterous woman? If anyone "had it coming" she did (caught in the act), yet Jesus simply gave her grace.
Posted by: gunkmayl59 | January 14, 2010 8:17 AM
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My stating Pat made his own pact with the Devil has as much credence as Pat stating the Haitians made such a pact. I don't have any more of a clue what pacts Pat has made then Pat has what pacts the Haitians have made.
It seems proving damning statements has no meaning any longer with Pat. He can make a claim in 1791 the Haitians made a pact with the Devil without so much as invoking one fact. If I was to have the opportunity to ask Pat about this I would ask exactly who made this pact, what was the wording/meaning of this pact and what percentage of the Haitians supported this pact. I would go on to ask did a person, council or the entire population sit down with the Devil to hammer out an agreement. If you think these questions are nuts, they are. However, they are far less offensive then Pat's statements.
Pat Robertston is a hater. He's on record advocating assassinations, nuking, torture and blaming all of Earth's problems on others. He is a little mind pandering to the lowest levels of intellect in our society. Pat hasn't even risen to the title of pond scum yet.
Posted by: boblund1 | January 14, 2010 8:18 AM
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You know, it was not too many years ago that a hurricane blasted right through Virginia Beach (Crazy Pat's headquarters). Yet somehow, that was not proof that God hated his organization.
Posted by: jamshark70 | January 14, 2010 8:18 AM
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Pat Robertson does more damage to the real Jesus and the true Gospel than 10,000 devils.
Posted by: Sam888 | January 14, 2010 8:20 AM
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The GOP mouth pieces are on a roll. All this built up hatred over this nations first black president has finally shown the world that hate and greed for power that is within all that are worshiping and voting for faults prophets. First Pat Robertson and then Rush Limbaugh making comments that were out of bounds and a public apology and resignation is in order. If they don't, attack there sponsors until they quit. Do it today, do it now. It time for Americans to rise up and defeat the beast before it's too late. For a nation of God, we sure don't act like it.
Posted by: rbraun2000 | January 14, 2010 8:21 AM
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Pat Robertson is evil incarnate. He is a true Elmer Gantry. Understanding that his bible says that nothing is that is not by the hand of god, he must free his god from being held accountable. The devil did it.
He must be assured that the fools will keep sending his 700 scam money, he is too used to living high on the handouts of fools.
Please notice he has not said anything about how his flock might be able to relieve the suffering. He is the devil.
Posted by: Billy1932 | January 14, 2010 8:21 AM
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And Virginia Gov-elect McDonnell has a law degree from Pat Robinson's Regent Law School. Watch out!
Posted by: ddhobbs | January 14, 2010 8:22 AM
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Pat Robertson is the Christian Mullah. Like the Islamic Mullahs he is hijacking Christianity. He is a blemishto this country.
By the way, who was the idiot who was sitting next to him nodding? If I had a misfortune of sitting next to him, I would have told him "shut up you sick senile SOB"
Posted by: sarvenk63 | January 14, 2010 8:24 AM
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Robertson is hateful and a fool. He is no Christian. Unfortunately he has a faithful following. That makes him (and those like him) very dangerous.
Posted by: AMviennaVA | January 14, 2010 8:25 AM
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HIGHSCHOOLTEACHER
YOU DO SHARE VIEWS WITH HIM!!!
You just don't share all of them. Whether you two have more in common, than not, is a question you should be asking yourself, and wondering why that may be just the case. Basically, Republicans are scum, and you freely choose to be one.
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what kind of talk is that ...you being a teacher....you sound a little like him..
there you go calling people scum just because you don't republicans...I'
m sure theres a lot of good republicans who have children in your class and wonder if you think their children are scum too....maybe you should get out of teaching if you feel that way about the kids parents....
Posted by: lucygirl1 | January 14, 2010 8:26 AM
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So.... Their was a time when "Haiti" as an entity made a deal with The Old Man-every male on the island signed in blood (women most likely were irrelevant) - the curse was transferred to future generations- unless of course one leaves the country and breaks the spell...
Posted by: windhill1 | January 14, 2010 8:28 AM
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RE: Haiti's "pact to the devil."
As the official spokesman and representative for the devil Pat Robertson should know. he does seem peculiarly close to everything evil on the face of the earth. An insider and partner to Satan's plans for humanity if there ever was one.
Posted by: aahpat | January 14, 2010 8:29 AM
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Thank God, this man isnt part of my church! Sir, no matter how God "decides" to deal with sinners or those that dont follow the gospel. You should use some of those $190+m and make a donation. As the Bible says, love your enemies. Your a little ignorant and you dont have my respect. Someone should pull the plug on your station and viewers.
Posted by: jaimenino | January 14, 2010 8:33 AM
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I talked to my God about this and HE says that he's punishing Haiti because they made abortion illegal. Abortion is illegal in Haiti even when the pregnancy is a result of rape and incest. It's true.
Posted by: James10 | January 14, 2010 8:34 AM
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Satan spreads his wings and Pat Robertson crawls out of his armpit.
Posted by: aahpat | January 14, 2010 8:34 AM
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Pat Robertson is to hold a press conference today to basically say that the Catholic archbishop Miot as well as the other 100 seminarians and priests believed to be dead is a result of sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests. He will say that the archbishop did not speak up about these atrocities so he was "stoned to death" by the crumbling building.
This is a man who profits from people seeking a relationship with God. The word of God says that in the last days, "there will be false prophets who will say they speak in my name. Do not listen to them".
Posted by: hadelaide | January 14, 2010 8:34 AM
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Pat may be have a point. The vodoo, crime, and disrespect for others are all charastics of a society's attraction to the egostic "qualities" that are typically generalized as the 10 sins. However, he should not feel above the Haitians. How does he define the US? Are we in God's favor? Did we fall out of it and why? How do you explain the economic crisis, Katrina, and everything else going wrong in the US? He should not put himself on such a lofty pedistal as he is not that different from the Haitians themselves.
Posted by: vidusa | January 14, 2010 8:36 AM
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It could happen!
Posted by: georges2 | January 14, 2010 8:37 AM
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The subtext of the story isn't that Pat Robertson is a douche (this is well established, inarguable fact) it's that nobody should really be surprised at this reaction from Pat "I Never Met A Natural Disaster That Didn't Make Me Wet" Robertson. The man has made a lifetime career of scaring the rubes into giving him money. Why should this incident be any different? He's a piece of garbage and the members of his cult of personality are no better. Shun them all.
Posted by: washpost18 | January 14, 2010 8:37 AM
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Open your minds so you may see shut your mouth so you can hear. God hates sin… all you “I know what’s right because I think it is right” loud mouth know it alls will have your day when your standing in front of God Himself telling Him how its going to be! I’m sorry to say … it doesn’t work that way… and if you think that’s the way then you’re a bigger fool! Not only will we see more natural disasters in the very near future but the disasters will be directed at what God says in the Bible are sinful people! Christ brought the message of LOVE but he also said go and sin no more. Ooo we don’t want to hear that part just love everyone and do what feels good! Well I’m sorry it doesn’t work that way as you will see! As for the victims in the poor Haiti stricken country whom got a feel of God’s wrath May God have mercy on your Souls! And for the closed minded people in the world who have all the answers because they have it all figured out because they think it so... it’s the truth … May God also have mercy on your souls ! Remember your ways will not matter when you’re standing in front of God in the very near future!
Posted by: youneedtolisten | January 14, 2010 8:38 AM
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It's no coincidence that many of Bush's staffers and Virginia's Governor Elect came from Robertson's Liberty University. Republicans and evil "Conservative Christians" have a pact with the Devil to take over the country with their exploitation of any world event. Satan has made an evil brew of Huckabee religion in lock-step with the radical politicos on the far right. CBN, FOX and Limbaugh are their propaganda organs.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 14, 2010 8:40 AM
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Robertson, Cheney, and Palin are three prime examples why the GOP has earend the reputation of being the party of hatred and "No."
Posted by: CommonSenseApproach | January 14, 2010 8:40 AM
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What do you expect from the Sarah Palin, tea bagger, Republican party, "family values" crowd?
The reprehensible nonsense uttered by Pat Robertson is what the majority of those who belong to the "Christian Right" and the Republican party believe.
Shouldn't be an surprise to anyone.
Posted by: montana123 | January 14, 2010 8:40 AM
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ALL religions have their dark side. this fool uses his mouth,the muslim fools use violence.the victims need HELP not stupid media crap
Posted by: pofinpa | January 14, 2010 8:41 AM
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What would Jesus do? Would Jesus sit on the sidelines making hateful comments about how it was "their own fault", or would he find a way to alleviate the the suffering?
No matter what he calls himself, Robertson is *NOT* a Christian; and, by claiming to be one, he is giving Christians and Christianity a bad name.
Posted by: koygdb | January 14, 2010 8:42 AM
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Pat Robertson is proof of reincarnation. He surely is Adolph Hitler reincarnate.
Robertson is a deranged sociopath and megalomaniac. A hell-hound jackal gnawing on the living flesh and bones of all victims of tragedy or human depravity. And doing so in the name of the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ.
Posted by: aahpat | January 14, 2010 8:44 AM
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The other question is "Does the Washington Post hype the pronouncements of this extremist in order do paint Christians with the loon brush?"
Who actually cares what Pat Robertson says?
Posted by: edbyronadams | January 14, 2010 8:45 AM
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The NeoCon, Republican, religious right.
They used the same arguments for attacking Iraq.
The only difference is America did the destruction instead of an act of nature.
You betcha!
Posted by: chucky-el | January 14, 2010 8:45 AM
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That guy is a real moron. First of all what about all the Christians that have been involved in tragedy. How many Christians died in 9/11? Most I assume were not devil worshipers.
And criticizing the Catholic church. Hello Pat... Christianity got started with the Catholic Church. Just because you have your 700 club that takes money from all these poor folks you milk does not mean your way is the right way.
A true moron.
Posted by: rcates | January 14, 2010 8:45 AM
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Okay - lessee here...
God ravaged Haiti for some pact with the Devil it made back in the 18th century for what, at the time, seemed to be in that country's best interests.
If we follow that line of thinking, then God is gearing up to unleash the Smite of Smites upon these United States for what we did to the Native Americans - in our nation's best interests, of course.
Uh-ohhh ... we got some 'splainin' to do...!
Posted by: SurlyGirly | January 14, 2010 8:45 AM
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Hey Pat, during your little "conversations" with God, did he not mention to you that simony is a sin as well?
Posted by: obx2004 | January 14, 2010 8:46 AM
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Mr. Waters,
You write in your conclusion, "Considering the massive death, destruction and misery in Haiti, it is shameful for anyone... especially a so-called minister of the gospel -- to suggest that God or the poor people of Haiti had anything to do with it."
While I am no defender of the Pat Robertsons of the world, it seems that you have failed to understand a very important teaching of the Bible. The Scriptures teach that God is sovereign and controls all of the happenings in His creation, AND that God does at times send temporal judgments upon people and peoples because of sin. With this in mind, the problem with what Robertson has said has less to do with the content given what Christianity teaches, but with the timing, insensitivity, uncompassionate, and apparently self-serving natures of his remarks.
Matt Williams
Posted by: MattWilliams | January 14, 2010 8:48 AM
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And don't forget, our tax dollars partially subsidize his church through exemptions. His comments should be proof positive that he and his company do not meet the charitable organization status. Are we as bad as his devotees for allowing this to continue? Write your representatives today.
Posted by: sanitycheck1 | January 14, 2010 8:48 AM
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Pat's obviously taking tips from Fred Phelps now. What an amazing sicko.
Posted by: pray4rain | January 14, 2010 8:48 AM
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God does not cause natural disasters whether hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, or any other event that may cause loss of life, period.
The great loss of life in Haiti was caused by very poor construction methods, not revenge by God. Radical religious teachings are one of the main problems in this world, whether Christian or Muslim.
Posted by: EZ2C | January 14, 2010 8:52 AM
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Like it or not, Robertson does speak for many Christians and all it would take is one single shred of evidence of this "pact" and millions more Christians would also believe it. They believe in the Devil and in pacts with the Devil. They believe in a long list of crazy ideas.
Posted by: allknowingguy | January 14, 2010 8:54 AM
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LUCYGIRL1
The Repuke who loves all that is Republican, besides Pat R's current comments, is the classroom teacher, not me. I wouldn't want my kids being taught by anyone who even shared half of what Robertson believes in, and I would bet that the dear HS teacher does.
I think people who think like Repukes are scum, and if their children think the same way, they'll grow up to be the same kind of scum. Do you think the little kids who get dress up in Klan outfits grow up thinking any differently than the scum who outfit them?
Posted by: daweeni | January 14, 2010 8:55 AM
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Pat Robertson has been very influential in the politics of Bob McConnell.
God help Virginia if McConnell still pays attention to Pat Robertson.
Posted by: castro714 | January 14, 2010 8:55 AM
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god eventually killed jerry falwell for being evil, she'll get to pat robertson soon.
Posted by: pouliotmichael | January 14, 2010 8:56 AM
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Much has been said about the need for mainstream Muslims to condemn Islamic extremists. It's time for mainstream Christians to begin pushing back against the "Christian" extremists, who purport to represent them, and continue to embarrass and humiliate them with this kind of hateful nonsense.
Posted by: bienefes | January 14, 2010 8:57 AM
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God help virginia! they just elected pat's protege as governor.
Posted by: MarilynManson | January 14, 2010 8:57 AM
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Not that I want to dispute theology, or what passes for theology in this man´s mind, but I always thought that when one made a pact with the devil, it was in order to have all the goodies in this life.
The devil got his gains after death. In this case, the Haitians have never gotten any good out of this so-called deal. Also, does this mean that all people who have suffered from natural disasters have made some kind of pact with the devil?
Robertson is such an embarrassment for most people who consider themselves Christians.
Posted by: Aquarius1 | January 14, 2010 8:57 AM
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In defense of Pat Robertson:
At least he's not exploiting God on this one!
Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | January 14, 2010 8:58 AM
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Speaking of Pat Robertson... I have a saying... Many times "christians" are the worst thing that happened Christianity.
Posted by: CardFan | January 14, 2010 9:01 AM
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The GOP must cringe every time Robertson makes one of these very un-Christianlike comments. Robertson and the Republican Party are joined at the hip, they're in bed together, the GOP courted him, got him and now they have to live with him.
The Republicans need for people to forget just how well the extreme religious right went over when we had Republican rule in the oughts, which is not well at all. And when Pat makes one of these observations we're seeing the Republican Party at its very worst. This is Christianity when you mix it with politics, or when one political party co-opts it for their own purposes. Where Jesus would have reacted to the Haitian tragedy with tears and pity, politicized Christianity uses it for borderline hate speech in the service of a political party.
If the GOP wants to return to power, it will take an awful lot of forgetting by an awful lot of people. The kind of memory loss that can wipe out an entire decade.
Posted by: curtb | January 14, 2010 9:01 AM
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Does anyone remember how badly South Park made fun of him in "Starvin' Marvin in Space"?
He's even crazier in real life.
"Remember, Marvin, reading the Bible plus accepting Jesus equals food."
Posted by: pray4rain | January 14, 2010 9:06 AM
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The CBC had it right, why give the likes of this corrupt impostor who poses as a diciple of Christ/God, any further press. He, like Sarah Palin and others are those who would destroy this country with their ignorance and lies while still pocketing the windfalls of those who give of their monies with such narrow or select vision and hearing.
Posted by: davidmswyahoocom | January 14, 2010 9:07 AM
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Matt Williams
Interesting thesis about God punishing the wicked. Funny how the timing of the event had absolutely nothing to do with anyone who may have actually entered into any deals. I suppose the sins of the fathers are visited on the sons? (Exodus 20:5) - "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me," By this standard, the retributions seems to have come a bit late, since it has been more than 3 or 4 generations, and multiple incarnations of governments, since the sins were even committed.
Posted by: daweeni | January 14, 2010 9:07 AM
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He knows it's a true story because he was there, right?
Posted by: Pastafarian | January 14, 2010 9:07 AM
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The 700 Club should be sending about 1000 times that -- $7 MILLION -- of their ill-gotten, send-me-your-money-and-be-saved "NON-PROFITS" to Haiti to help these poor people, which will go a lot farther toward bringing them to salvation rather than spewing the drivvel that so often flows from the mouths of the "evangelicals."
Posted by: luv2bikva | January 14, 2010 9:08 AM
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Mattwilliams wrote:
The Scriptures teach that God is sovereign and controls all of the happenings in His creation, AND that God does at times send temporal judgments upon people and peoples because of sin.
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What cherry-picked Scriptures? Who's god?
Do you also think the Prince of Peace, Jesus, is in on this? Is this the unconditional love and forgiveness He speaks of? If he is part of this, He must be another international war criminal like the Republican Huckabees Robertson supports. Should He be in a prison cell in the Hague with Lord Cheney as well?
What a shining example of "Christianity" you are.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 14, 2010 9:08 AM
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Ignore Pat? Wishful thinking! Even 3 days of fasting in the desert wouldn't rid you of his lot.
Posted by: iamasiam_ecr | January 14, 2010 9:09 AM
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Pat Robertson's views are representative of those of the "Christian Right" and the Republican party.
What's scary is Robertson apparently has a large following who believe everything he says and dutifully show up at the polls every election and vote Republican.
A vote for a Republican in the 2010 mid-term elections is a vote for Pat Robertson and all who share his views.
Posted by: montana123 | January 14, 2010 9:12 AM
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"to suggest that God or the poor people of Haiti had anything to do with it."
Maybe not God, but don't people bear a responsibility for the way they organize themselves? Don't the people of Haiti themselves bear some responsibility for the massive social and government dysfunction that leads to such poverty and resulting poor construction?
Posted by: edbyronadams | January 14, 2010 9:12 AM
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Of course, he got it only half right.
It wasn't a pact with the devil that got the Haitians trouble this time. It was because they refused to a man, woman and child to appease the great Earthquake God, ShakyWakie.
In a cloud of dust amid great tremblings, ShakyWakie approached the citizens of Haiti several years ago and offered to not blow his top if they would forsake the same god that Pat Robertson worshiped. They refused, saying that in spite of the evil Pat Roberson worshipping the same god as them, they would stand by Him since he had been so kind to them in providing each and every person on the island with food, shelter, jobs--a regular middle-class existence.
When ShakyWakie asked them to offer proof of this largess, the citizens shouted at him, "The proof is not in the pudding, but in our wishes and desires!"
ShakyWakie left in a huff but promised to return with a vengeance.
The citizens of Haiti laughed at him, taunted him saying that their god would protect them from any harm.
As we all know, ShakyWakie did return and the results weren't pretty.
And what did Pat Robertson's god do about the situation? As always, he blessed the living, gave promises of good times ahead and if none of that came to pass, well, there was always heaven . . .
Posted by: hyjanks | January 14, 2010 9:13 AM
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Ignore Pat? Wishful thinking! Even 3 days of fasting in the desert wouldn't rid you of his lot.
Posted by: iamasiam_ecr | January 14, 2010 9:14 AM
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Seems like anybody making a pact with anybody as long ago as the pact this idiot alludes to, would be dead by now. Unless the pact designates heirs and assigness, seems it should have long since expired.
God is suffering with and in the people of Haiti.
Posted by: RadicalGlove | January 14, 2010 9:15 AM
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**Is Pat Robertson trumpeting a Haitian deal with the devil to maintain his position as America's outspoken evangelical?**
Of course he is.
The devil has always supported Robertson's career.
Posted by: lichtme | January 14, 2010 9:15 AM
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Pat Robertson made a deal with the devil many years ago. He exchanged his soul for a television show and his word that he would spread the devil's messages of hatred, greed, and destruction.
Posted by: squier13 | January 14, 2010 9:15 AM
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being a recovering southern baptist, i can testify under oath that the practices and beliefs of that faith are no less bizarre and outlandish than anything the haitians might practice.
Posted by: jimfilyaw | January 14, 2010 9:16 AM
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Take away old Pat's donor lists and he's just another senile old man.
Oh, and TAKE AWAY HIS DONOR LISTS!
Posted by: rowens1 | January 14, 2010 9:16 AM
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God is not a liar! So if he says in Job 4:8 what you sow you shall reap, that is as biblical a law as gravity. We believe gravity because we see it in action, but reaping disaster because of sin, not so much.
I recall a flood and an ark. Nobody believed then either. Earthquake, same principle!
Posted by: etiquetteconsultant | January 14, 2010 9:19 AM
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"Maybe not God, but don't people bear a responsibility for the way they organize themselves? Don't the people of Haiti themselves bear some responsibility for the massive social and government dysfunction that leads to such poverty and resulting poor construction?"
Wow! So it is the Haitians fault! They weren't suffering enough in abject poverty, so this will teach them to be more responsible.
Posted by: obx2004 | January 14, 2010 9:20 AM
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EDBYRONADAMS wrote:
Maybe not God, but don't people bear a responsibility for the way they organize themselves? Don't the people of Haiti themselves bear some responsibility for the massive social and government dysfunction that leads to such poverty and resulting poor construction?
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You must be completely ignorant about Haitian political history to make a statement like that. I suggest you do some LEARNING before commenting.
Posted by: mtnmanvt | January 14, 2010 9:20 AM
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Napoleon III, who was born 4 years after the Haitian revolution? "Reverend" Pat is devoid not only of human compassion but historical knowledge as well. I'm still alarmed that our new governor in Virginia went to the Rev's "Regent University." What did he learn there?
Posted by: juliuschas | January 14, 2010 9:20 AM
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As Christopher Hitchens said about one of Robertson's ilk "if you gave him an anema, he would fit in a match box". That says it all.
Posted by: morryb | January 14, 2010 9:21 AM
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EDBYRONADAMS
Geewhiz, you are so right. It never occurred to me that the people of Haiti, amidst the economic and political upheavals that the country has suffered from for so long, had a real chance to organize themselves to set up building codes and what-not, and then rebuild everything that wasn't up to spec. They seem to be as stupid as a nation of people who allow a health care system to exist that forces bankruptcy upon anyone who is so disorganized that they get their health insurance revoked due to a preexisting condition they didn't know they had.
You Repukes and your "responsibility" mantra are pathetic.
Posted by: daweeni | January 14, 2010 9:22 AM
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Pat:
I believe an apology is in order.
I do believe that was the most irresponsible thing ever to come out of your mouth.
If it was God’s will, he would have done this over a hundred yeas ago.
This was plate tectonics. If you would have thought about it before opening your trap, surely you could have “divined’ the correct answer.
Now put your money where your mouth should be and help these people out!
Posted by: rexreddy | January 14, 2010 9:24 AM
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Would it be illegal to kick Pat Robertson in the groin? Too bad.
Posted by: MHawke | January 14, 2010 9:25 AM
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And they say Black people speak poor English. Pat Robertson sure looks White to me.
Posted by: forgetthis | January 14, 2010 9:25 AM
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AND that God does at times send temporal judgments upon people and peoples because of sin.
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So God hurts us to help us? That is utterly ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever, and I'm a teacher. I GET the concept of tough love.
Posted by: penance091 | January 14, 2010 9:25 AM
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Finally, a newspaper writer who understands that Pat Robertson is not the spokesperson for the majority of Evangelical Christians. He may have some followers but to most of us he is a stain on a religion that teaches love and compassion.
Posted by: tesnusxenos | January 14, 2010 9:26 AM
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This evil, miserable excuse robertson should of been treated long ago for VD... his mental illness (at best), was preventable. His sociopathy is not, unfortunately.
The only thing that gives him "credibility" are the minions who surround him because of money. He's like an ongoing movie of what the bible tells us to avoid and how the devil seeks to deceive. It's all there, in "living" color. How obvious can it be?
Pat Robertson is what the bible warns us about... the great deceiver.
Posted by: 4Jaxon | January 14, 2010 9:27 AM
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Thanks to MORRYB! and Christopher Hitchens. And beware of all fundamentalists who desire to be President.
Posted by: EddieV | January 14, 2010 9:27 AM
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I don't know who's the bigger jackass: Pat Robertson or David Waters. Yes, I'm a Born-Again Christian. Yes, I think Pat Robertson is a galactic nut job. Yes, Waters isn't far behind when he says that Robertson's "thinking reflects the thinking of millions of fundamentalist Christians." None of the Christians I know buy into Robertson's clap-trap. Every time he opens his mouth he sets the rest of us back at least 100 years. To believe that what happened in Haiti a few days ago was the outcome of something that happened 150 years ago means that if anyone in Robertson's family tree ever did anything wrong, he could be subject to some sort of dire punishment. What a bozo!
Posted by: hofbrauhausde | January 14, 2010 9:27 AM
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Just think of a scenario. Is it possible that someday the unbelievers posting here could be burning in hell while Pat Robertson is beside his Savior?
I've read the Bible thru and I can say, that it is possible. I don't know Pat but he's a believer and that makes it possible.
Repent before it's too late.
Posted by: spidermean2
If there were such a place as hell, I'd rather spend eternity there than cheek by jowl with the likes of RObertson.
Posted by: lepidopteryx | January 14, 2010 9:28 AM
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Anything to take your mind away from the train wreck that's known as the Obama administration & the Democratic Congress.
No matter, it's Bush's fault.
Posted by: Fred38 | January 14, 2010 9:28 AM
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Yes, Burlough, that law school is where Monica Goodling and other legal luminaries came from.
Some of you may remember a few years ago that Robertson predicted, or perhaps wished, I forget which, that Florida would be slammed by a devastating hurricane as G-d's wrath for Disney World's Gay Days and general tolerance of LGBT customers. A few days later, a devastating storm hit...Virginia Beach.
Draw your own conclusions.
Posted by: bucinka8 | January 14, 2010 9:28 AM
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Haiti is in bad shape not because of the Devil but because blacks cannot run a country successfully.
Posted by: ravitchn | January 14, 2010 9:30 AM
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How is Pat Robertson any different from that minister who claims the deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan occur because of homosexuality, and protests homosexuality at their funerals. This is the "Christian" faith, as practiced by a bunch of ignorant yahoos who live in the South.
Posted by: scoogy | January 14, 2010 9:31 AM
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So Pat Reberson and muawiyah really believe that there is a "DEVIL" and somebody can sit down and sign a deal with him!!!! They're supposed to be educated adults!!!!
Posted by: bfs515 | January 14, 2010 9:31 AM
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Christianity is compassion. Where is the compassion in Robertson's rantings? Why does he use the word Christian to harm other human beings? Call him what you will, but he's no Christian.
Posted by: gtinla | January 14, 2010 9:32 AM
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Says a lot about GOD if they had to seek freedom with the assistance of the Devil. Who's following in the shadow of whom? Could things be reversed? Maybe God ain't all he's cracked up to be. What kind of God would sit by and allow the enslavement of innocent peoples? Humanity plays no part? Religion before humanity? I hate the church!
Posted by: minco_007 | January 14, 2010 9:32 AM
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Pat Robertson is the same guy who claimed he prayed a hurricane away from Virginia so that it struck North Carolina instead. I really never understood why the people of North Carolina didn't sue him for all the damage which was inflicted upon them. Let's not forget this guy was also a Republican presidential candidate, and regular speaker at their conventions. And we wonder why Sarah Palin seems quite reasonable to them? Lord save us from these people who believe they have a direct hot-line to God, and especially from those who believe them.
Posted by: taxpayer2 | January 14, 2010 9:33 AM
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He is beyond offensive and is just a fear and hate mongerer for profit.
He needs to be held accountable for his slander. His daily minute by minute word vomit that puts down everyone that doesnt believe everything he believes is horrible.
I'm glad he wasn't born during the Inquisition or American witch trials; he would have probably risen to the top and taken out a few thousand more with his power to persuade.
Pat Robertson: entitled, misleading, and hateful.
Posted by: chokedonapeach | January 14, 2010 9:36 AM
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Hey Virginia ! And just look at what you elected as your next Governor......one of Psycho Pat's boys. Ya'll have fun with him and the kook Cuccinelli for the next 4 years. Hey now.....that's entertainment !
Posted by: grm51 | January 14, 2010 9:39 AM
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This is not condoning Pat's (mis-speak)
But here is what he was referring to.(artical below)
Personally, if paranormal influences were involved, I think this is a little more under Satan’s jurisdiction.
I believe this to forces of the underworld!
The Demons name is ”Plate Tectonics”
(ARTICAL)
Ceremony at the Bois Caïman
On 22 August 1791, Boukman presided in the role of houngan (priest) together with an African-born priestess and conducted a ceremony at the Bois Caïman and prophesied that the slaves Jean François, Biassou, and Jeannot would be leaders of a slave revolt that would free the slaves of Saint-Domingue. A pig, which symbolized the wild, free, and untamable spiritual power of the forest and the ancestors, was sacrificed, an oath was taken, and Boukman and the priestess exhorted the listeners to fight bravely against their oppressors. Days later the Haitian Revolution began.[2] Boukman was not the first to attempt a slave uprising in Saint-Domingue, as he was preceded by others, such as Padrejean in 1676, and François Mackandal in 1757. However, his large size, warrior-like appearance, and fearsome temper made him an effective leader and helped spark the Haitian Revolution.[3]
Posted by: rexreddy | January 14, 2010 9:40 AM
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Robertson a Christian and people complain about people who say they're non-believers. I can't imagine why.
Posted by: rlj1 | January 14, 2010 9:41 AM
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Yes, Robertson does have a law school. Isn't it the same one some of Bush II's attorneys attended? One comes to mind - the female who took the 5th because she didn't understand what "immunity" was.
Posted by: oypay | January 14, 2010 9:41 AM
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Boycott advertisers on CBN.
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Ew. To do that, I'd have to know which advertisers they are, which means I'd have to watch CBN. Ew ew ew.
Posted by: bucinka8 | January 14, 2010 9:45 AM
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And just think, the people on Wall Street are doing God's work!
So send everyone on Wall Street to Haiti to rehabilitate them (in Pat's eyes).
Oh, the irony.
Posted by: wesatch | January 14, 2010 9:45 AM
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This truly evil man should quake in his boots at the thought of soon having to face Jesus and explain why he used His name to justify hate, bigotry and lies.
Posted by: newsmkr | January 14, 2010 9:45 AM
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This truly evil man should quake in his boots at the thought of soon having to face Jesus and explain why he used His name to justify hate, bigotry and lies.
Posted by: newsmkr | January 14, 2010 9:46 AM
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Religion gives Pat Robertson a bad name.
One wonders whether he would be so insane if he were a secularist. Probably not. There's something about the "imaginary friend" racket that brings out the worst in people.
Posted by: PontiusPilot | January 14, 2010 9:46 AM
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The great difficulty here is not that Robertson is the anti-Christ and spouts evil. It is that NO conservative Christian leaders stand up on their hind legs and condemn him. They sit silent as the mullahs of Saudi Arabia and passively endorse words and actions that destroy the religion and God that they serve.
Posted by: djah | January 14, 2010 9:47 AM
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In Italy the expression used for people like Pat Robertson is "matto da legare", which means "so crazy he requires being tied down".
Posted by: herrickdm | January 14, 2010 9:47 AM
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Reading the responses by those who support Pat Robertson is fun - it's pure comedy. Keep it up, I enjoy reading your incredibly ignorant posts :)
Posted by: scoogy | January 14, 2010 9:47 AM
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Your headline is redundant.
Posted by: Hurleybird | January 14, 2010 9:48 AM
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Check out my blog post on why Pat Robertson said Haiti is "cursed":
http://blog.timesunion.com/rudnick/pat-robertson-haiti-cursed-after-pact-to-the-devil/1091/
Posted by: crucialruddy | January 14, 2010 9:49 AM
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150 Regent University graduates worked in the Bush White House.
Posted by: vigor | January 14, 2010 9:49 AM
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I would never question God's will or His master plan...but if I could just make one little suggestion: Please, Lord, just one lightning bolt, JUST this once. Pat just flat deserves a good smiting.
Posted by: CantSeetheHD | January 14, 2010 9:52 AM
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If God is just now punishing Haiti for offenses committed in 1791, then Pat Robertson is overdue to be punished for the Christian imperialsit who lnaded in Virignia and stole native lands and killed native peoples in 1607.
Posted by: herschel53 | January 14, 2010 9:52 AM
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Just this morning I was thinking how God had a part in this Haitian calamity...
Bill Clinton just happens to be the the UN Special Evoy to Haiti, surely God had a part in that "coincidence". The President of the US, Haiti's closest 1st World nation, is Barack Obama (vs. Geo. W. Bush), surely God had a hand in that "coincidence". The World needs to see the US as a great compassionate force for good. What a display we are offered to show our best side. God is definitely present. ~kw
Posted by: kaywitt | January 14, 2010 9:53 AM
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Sorry...typed too fast...
"Christian imperialists who landed in Virginia in 1607."
Posted by: herschel53 | January 14, 2010 9:54 AM
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Pat Robertson said what??
WaPo throws out some red meat for its rabid bloggers!
Posted by: pgr88 | January 14, 2010 9:55 AM
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Pat Robertson once commented that Hugo Chavez should be assassinated when Chavez had said or done something to upset the televangelist....Pat Robertson should reap what he sows from his spewing venom in the name of his God that frankly I would never want to know on a personal basis...Could all the Christians out there that really do have a relationship with a loving God speak out and fill the coffers of aid to this desperate nation in which every single victim is a child of God...Satin did this...OMG...What planet does this televangelist hatemonger live on???
Posted by: jdhabq | January 14, 2010 9:55 AM
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God is not a liar! So if he says in Job 4:8 what you sow you shall reap, that is as biblical a law as gravity. We believe gravity because we see it in action, but reaping disaster because of sin, not so much.
I recall a flood and an ark. Nobody believed then either. Earthquake, same principle!
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I see. So what you're saying is that Hitler was doing God's work trying to exterminate the Jews for having Jesus Christ crucified. Should we follow up and continue God's work.
Do you know that 12% of America's Christians think Joan of Arc was Noah's wife? Are you one of them?
Posted by: James10 | January 14, 2010 9:56 AM
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Presuming you quoted Robertson correctly, viz. "... Napoleon the third..." it's safe to assume Robertson doesn't know what he's talking about, the Haitian revolution took place during the reign of Napoleon Bonaparte.
Posted by: rmlwj1 | January 14, 2010 9:57 AM
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"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Got it.
Robertson would be merely pathetic if it were not for the--small, we must hope--group of followers who listen to these messages from his alternate, demonic universe.
Posted by: McBriar | January 14, 2010 10:00 AM
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Remember Monica Goodling?
On May 3, 2007, the Washington Post reported that the United States Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General launched an internal probe into whether or not Goodling "illegally took party affiliation into account in hiring career federal prosecutors" in her work at the Department.[22]
On May 12, the New York Times published an article about Goodling repeatedly engaging in “prohibited personnel practices” while at the Justice Department.
Posted by: vigor | January 14, 2010 10:00 AM
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You know how you can tell that there really is no God? Because Pat Robertson exists.
Posted by: nadinem | January 14, 2010 10:00 AM
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I look forward to hearing of the death of this man.
Then I know that the God I believe in, a God that is loving and benevolent, will know what to do with him.
One definition of Hell, one that I know in my heart, is a place where I might spend eternity with Robertson's kind of "Christian".
Posted by: OldUncleTom | January 14, 2010 10:01 AM
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Of course, Pat got it only half right.
It wasn't a pact with the devil or Voodooism that got the Haitians trouble this time. It was because they refused to a man, woman and child to appease the great Earthquake God, ShakyWakie.
In a cloud of dust amid great tremblings, ShakyWakie approached the citizens of Haiti several years ago and offered to not blow his top if they would forsake the same god that Pat Robertson worshiped. They refused, saying that in spite of the evil Pat Roberson worshipping the same god as them, they would stand by Him since he had been so kind to them in providing each and every person on the island with food, shelter, jobs--a regular middle-class existence.
When ShakyWakie asked them to offer proof of this largess, the citizens shouted at him, "The proof is not in the pudding, but in our wishes and desires!"
ShakyWakie left in a huff but promised to return with a vengeance.
The citizens of Haiti laughed at him, taunted him saying that their god would protect them from any harm.
As we all know, ShakyWakie did return and the results weren't pretty.
And what did Pat Robertson's god do about the situation? As always, he blessed the living, gave promises of good times ahead and if none of that came to pass, well, there was always heaven . . .
Posted by: hyjanks | January 14, 2010 10:02 AM
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David,
You say "reflects the thinking of millions of fundamentalist Christians". I am and personally know many fundamentalist Christians, NONE of which believe the judgemental statments he routinely gives. So it must be said that your statement is at best a gross exaggeration, and at worst flat out wrong. Don't fall into the same trap that Pat is in - casting judgement on people whom you've never met!
By the way - yes, it is definitely time to ignore him. It is also time for Christians everywhere to speak out against Pat and his crusade of self-righteous lies.
Posted by: joelpass | January 14, 2010 10:03 AM
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The old senile idiot will rot in hell. I am a firm believer that man should go one to one with God. Not through some charlatan like this jerk. He like Limbaugh are simply racists.
Posted by: truth1 | January 14, 2010 10:05 AM
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"This truly evil man should quake in his boots at the thought of soon having to face Jesus and explain why he used His name to justify hate, bigotry and lies."
Posted by: newsmkr
Which only proves to me this evil man does not believe in God, just exploits the belief of other's for profit, as so many do, and is using his position to promote his own form of bigotry.
In a related note, I came to bed late last night and my wife was asleep with the TV on, probably after watching a CSI, which she is prone to do. On the TV was Robertson taking questions from a lady who was reading questions from viewers. One asked about a ringing in the ear. Robertson diagnosed it as "Tinactin". The woman said something like "Oh, that's good to know". I laughed so hard I woke up my wife. Talk about the blind leading the blind.
(In case you didn't know, Tinactin is a jock-itch cream. One has to wonder why that name came into Robertson's mind instead of the real possible cause of the ear ringing, tinnitus. Maybe satan made him say it?)
Posted by: Fate1 | January 14, 2010 10:06 AM
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mtnmanvt said: "Robertson is a hateful racist psychopath. He offers only hate and fear."
Unfortunately, he also offers salvation to those who follow him. More unfortunately, there are far too many people who find it easier to believe as he does, than to "Love one another ...."
Posted by: MargaretOne | January 14, 2010 10:07 AM
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If the time has come to stop paying attention to Pat Robertson - then why are you featuring this article?
This is just a way to exploit Robertson's apocalyptic nonsense which reminds me of Flip Wilson's theology - The Devil Made Me Do It!
Why anyone could take this cretin seriously is a joke. He is just another huckster with a TV show.
Posted by: alance | January 14, 2010 10:08 AM
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Hmmmmmm is this the present day McCarthy who named all 'his Communists' in the 1950s and destroyed lives? He fulfilled some sick hole in his soul too.
Posted by: peep1935 | January 14, 2010 10:08 AM
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Pact with the devil, pact with Jesus, pact with the easter bunny, pact with santa claus....
Posted by: elwoll | January 14, 2010 10:08 AM
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Pat Robertson is nothing more the Christian version of a Taliban leader. He is spewing hatrid and promoting violence in a misguided attempt to promote his religious beliefs. He makes Christianity look bad, and he is part of the reason that so many Americans are turned off by religion in general.
Posted by: GD1975 | January 14, 2010 10:10 AM
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By now it should be clear to everyone that Pat Robertson and his followers bring nothing but undiluted evil to this country and the world.
But his latest statement - the vilest of his long career - demands a powerful response. First of all, every single person who calls themselves a Christian and can see Robertson's evil for what it is needs to speak out - on their Facebook pages, on blogs, to friends and family - that Pat Robertson and his kind are NOT Christians of any sort.
Next, they need to begin a concerted campaign to shame Robertson into liquidating his entire multi-million dollar organization and donating every last cent to the relief effort in Haiti. This should be presented as the first condition for atonement and acceptance into the religion he has falsely claimed as his.
This is your chance, real Christians. I know you're out there. Show yourselves and reclaim your faith.
Posted by: bigbrother1 | January 14, 2010 10:12 AM
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Dude, have you SEEN Napoleon the Third? Dude was off the HOOK! I'd make a pact with the devil to get rid of that guy!
Posted by: ravensfan20008 | January 14, 2010 10:12 AM
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Pat Robertson is simply relaying the Biblical/Scriptural precept of "reaping what you sow".
Nations as well as individuals come under that same concept. The US is in freefall on every level. We have, we are, and we will continue to suffer and fall, as Rome did.
Its undeniable and irrefutable where we are heading as a nation and yes, we are beginning to reap what we have sown.
Agree or disagree, but, as those who continue to press for the elimination of God as the basis of our fundamental moral and ethical compass, life as we knew it has changed and continues to spiral downward.
There is a direct correlation also with our support for Israel. As we continue to pull away from supporting Israel, we will suffer. It started suprisingly with Bush, but has accelerated with Obama as he is much more aligned with Muslims than Christians or Jews.
Dont crucify the messenger. He is only relaying the message, from the Bible, that our founding fathers based the entire premise of this country on. Liberty and Christianity go hand in hand.
Posted by: davemichelle09 | January 14, 2010 10:14 AM
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I'm embarrassed to live in the same state as this idiot.
What a fine "Christian" man he is NOT.
And to think people actually donate to his causes - how sad.
Posted by: swissmiss150 | January 14, 2010 10:15 AM
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There is, apparently, an old folk tale in Haiti to this effect. That said, there is no historical evidence to support the validity of the story.
And regardless, the comment still should not have been made.
Posted by: RhymesWithRight | January 14, 2010 10:16 AM
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In making his commments, Robertson compared Haiti with the Dominican Republic, apparently a nation that did NOT make a pact with the devil but is a Christian nation and therefore did not suffer the wrath of God. What is he going to say when a hurricane/earthquake hits Santo Domingo? Who will he blame then?
Posted by: FactChecker1 | January 14, 2010 10:17 AM
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The Bible says there will be false prophets and teachers to lead astray the followers of the true God. In Hati the hyms of Christianity are being heard in the destroyed streets and prayers are being given by true believers to the true God. Now Pat Robertson is saying these people are of the Devil or have a pact with the Devil. He has it backwards...
Posted by: predictions101 | January 14, 2010 10:18 AM
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Robertson's comment could have been made in the stone age. It shortcircuits every part of the brain except our attraction to magic and a "Higher" cause for every effect. Robertson is not a moron, but he acts like one. He does not deserve an audience.
Posted by: bwasow | January 14, 2010 10:18 AM
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Maybe you could supply Pat and Rush Limberger a small dingy that they could start in rowing themselves to Haiti to assist. Since all they are capable physically and mentally of doing is letting their collective lips fap in the breeze while sitting on their collective fat asses, it may a good workout program when they arrive. - - OR SINK.
Two of the most useless humans alive - anywhere..
Posted by: rbaldwin2 | January 14, 2010 10:18 AM
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Actually Haiti became independent when Napoleon I was in power, 60 years before Napoleon III.
This still does not excuse the WaPo writers who made their pact to the Devil in return for worldly and liberal success
Posted by: DorothyfromColumbus | January 14, 2010 10:20 AM
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Pat Robertson ought to sit down sometime and read the scriptures he so vigorously promotes. The book of Luke reports that Jesus' followers expected him to say that the massacre of a group of Galilean rebels was punishment from God. Instead, Jesus cites an incident where a tower collapsed, killing people who were no better and no worse than anyone else. Or how about the bit where he said the sun shines on the evil and the good and the rain falls on both the just and the unjust? Maybe that part got redacted out of Pat Robertson's bible.
Posted by: n_mcguire | January 14, 2010 10:22 AM
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Christians should stop listening to Robertson because it is undeniably true from his words and actions that he doesn't believe in God. If he did, he would know that his actions and words are the antipathy of everything Jesus taught, and therefore he is going to hell. But since he doesn't believe and knows that he will just die and there is no afterlife - he is free to be as greedy and hateful as he wants. It is his hateful talk that feeds his greed. People want it enough to pay him for it handsomely, which is really sad.
Posted by: jbp1 | January 14, 2010 10:24 AM
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By the way -- I find it interesting that so many who seem to reject Robertson's right to judge others are quick to judge Robertson. Those who reject Robertson's right to question the faith of others are quick to question Robertson's faith. And those who reject Robertson's right to raise questions about the salvation of others are quick to raise questions about Robertson's salvation. Seems like some pretty rank hypocrisy to me.
Posted by: RhymesWithRight | January 14, 2010 10:24 AM
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Well, Robertson is an old line segregationist himself. His father, Senator Wills Robertson, was one of the leaders of Virginia's Massive Resistance campaign to preserve Jim Crow. The Haitian revolt, in which the slaves killed their white masters and established an independent black nation, was the deepest nightmare of the Old South. Of course Robertson thinks it was the Devil's work.
Posted by: jhirschhorn1 | January 14, 2010 10:25 AM
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At least can we call a nut a nut?
If the FCC fears christian radio, the very least they can do is require a warning about the violent and graphic language they use. How do you explain this to the children who hear it? Try de-programming a kid who sees a preacher, a supposed learned man of god, on tv, a mainstream position.
Scary movies have warnings, graphic pictures have warnings, the fcc should require warnings for families that listen to this guy.
Posted by: tmcproductions2004 | January 14, 2010 10:26 AM
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davemichelle09: You and Robertson are the true Satanists. You and your message are an evil that all decent people, religious or not, must unite against.
And when it comes to the disaster in Haiti we are already united against you. Though our main concern is to do what we can to relieve the suffering there (as both Jesus and Buddha would want), we can still take a moment to denounce you for what you are.
You are evil and your god is evil. One only has to read your words to know it.
Posted by: bigbrother1 | January 14, 2010 10:26 AM
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Pat Roberson is a MEAN SPIRITED EVIL PERSON! He has never showed compassion nor a heart for fellow humans. Also, he is Virginia Governor elect McDonnell's
mentor (birds of the feather flock together).
Please remember that this is the same man who went to Africa and brought a diamond mine. He prayed that the miners would find diamonds on the day of exploration.
One can tell by his phyical size that he is greed and care about no one but himself. His God is MONEY.
Posted by: sun52shine | January 14, 2010 10:26 AM
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God bless those ever compassionate Christians.
Posted by: wlockhar | January 14, 2010 10:27 AM
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For some time I've believed Robertson was in the early stages of dementia; now, I believe it is full blown. What puzzles me is the fact he retains a substantial audience of so-called Christian fundamentalists, who, themselves, believe the nonsense he spews. If he is deliberate and calculating in his remarks, I fail to see it. Rather, there is more in his demeanor to support an assessment of old-age dotage.
Posted by: Diogenes | January 14, 2010 10:29 AM
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I don't question Robertson's right to say this garbage. I question his sanity.
Posted by: djmolter | January 14, 2010 10:29 AM
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"By the way -- I find it interesting that so many who seem to reject Robertson's right to judge others are quick to judge Robertson."
Posted by: RhymesWithRight
No one is saying Robertson did not have a "right" to say what he said, everyone is saying he's a moron (to put it mildly) for saying it, which is their "right" to say. Don't confuse criticism with taking away rights. Robertson is enjoying America's freedom of speech, which is a two-way street my friend.
Posted by: Fate1 | January 14, 2010 10:29 AM
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Getting a history lesson from Pat Robinson is like getting Kool-Aid from Jim Jones.
Posted by: dddvu | January 14, 2010 10:30 AM
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I wonder how much of substanial wealth of Mr. Robertson's non-profit organization will be donated to the relief effort in Haiti? I'd be willing to bet not one thin dime.
Posted by: dstreet208 | January 14, 2010 10:31 AM
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Best Post So Far:
Where did I put that Pat Robertson doll and those pins, mon?
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Posted by: Fate1 | January 14, 2010 10:33 AM
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Pat should be taken to gitmo and questioned about his views. Could it be that he is a representative of... SATAN!!!
Posted by: Try2Ketchup | January 14, 2010 10:35 AM
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Mr. Robertson could be right. Just because Haiti is mostly Roman Catholic doesn't mean that anyone ever REPENTED of that former pact with the devil. Repentance reverences Jesus Christ.
Posted by: darlenemiller85 | January 14, 2010 10:37 AM
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This so-called "MINISTER" was on Larry King Live years ago preaching abstinence before marriage. I was watching the show. A man called in, asked Robertson how he could be so hypocritical to preach abstinence when HIS wife was FOUR MONTHS PREGNANT when they got married! Robertson's face got as red as a beet!
When Larry King asked him if that was true, his remark was..... "well, we WERE engaged!"
Engaged.....RIGHT ON PAT! Besides being hypocritical, Pat Robertson is THE WEALTHIEST of all the Evangelical preachers! He puts HIS money in the BANK and INVESTMENTS.... not where his mouth is!
Not only that, he uses the GOP to his advantage every day of his life! He has them in his pockets.
Posted by: cashmere1 | January 14, 2010 10:39 AM
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Although Robertson may have been sane previously, he has clearly lost his mind.
I'm looking forward to the day he meets his Maker, and is thus silenced.
Posted by: Skyline1 | January 14, 2010 10:40 AM
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Well, Robertson is an old line segregationist himself. His father, Senator Wills Robertson, was one of the leaders of Virginia's Massive Resistance campaign to preserve Jim Crow. The Haitian revolt, in which the slaves killed their white masters and established an independent black nation, was the deepest nightmare of the Old South. Of course Robertson thinks it was the Devil's work.
Posted by: jhirschhorn1 | January 14, 2010 10:25 AM
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Bingo!
Posted by: OneFreeMan | January 14, 2010 10:40 AM
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Is Pat Robertson and Sarah Palin related?
Posted by: virgil06 | January 14, 2010 10:41 AM
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Robertson's comments are wrong on so many levels: historical, theological, moral, etc. His opinions are so judgmental and full of hate. His version of faith travels far outside the realm of orthodox Christianity, to to the extreme. It so disturbing and even tragic that a substantial number of professed Christians agree with him.
Posted by: pescado | January 14, 2010 10:42 AM
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Stop paying attention to Robertson? No, that would be media manipulation of the news about evangelicals - the very thing they accuse you of.
The media can stop reporting Robertson when he goes away. Of course, he makes his rediculous statements to get in the news, so on this one he wins.
I think we need to continue to talk about what he says in a forum that invites comment. Let "the public" keep making the point that his comments are unChristian, that he is crazy. That there are Christians who abhor his comments, who are not willing for Robertson to be their spokeperson.
That there are Christians who think he is crazy and a danger to the real message of Jesus.
And then report about the comments.
This is not bashing Christians. I do not want the people of the world to think that all Christians think as Robertson does or that all American think that way.
Posted by: amelia45 | January 14, 2010 10:42 AM
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Robertson is what gives Christians a bad name.
Posted by: 45upnorth | January 14, 2010 10:43 AM
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I think it is highly reprehensible and disgusting what Pat Robertson has said. He really demonstrates that he and his flock are a small, vocal minority of people who have no shame nor honor, and certainly no concept of charity or love towards the suffering of people in need. How can anyone make these kinds of stupid comments? Bottom line he thinks the Haitians were better off under French Colonial rule and now they are forever paying for their independence from white domination..... Robertson is fundamentally a racist to boot. What is wrong with the advertisers who support this kind of TV broadcasting? They are a shameless lot.
Posted by: kerryberger | January 14, 2010 10:43 AM
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So Pat Robinson presumes to know the mind of God? I don't think so. What has happend in that poor country is horrible and we are all called upon to help as much as we can. Why it happend is Gods to know and his to understand...our place is to help those peopel as much as we can.
Posted by: susan60 | January 14, 2010 10:44 AM
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Thank God for Pat Robertson! He's the face of the American Christian right. There should be no cover for Creationism, anti-intellectualism, self-serving theories about economics and theology, gay-bashing, or self-delusional views that accidents of genetics or history are a mark of one's being "blessed." If believing any of this nonsense doesn't embarrass you, then you can hardly claim to be shocked by the far-less pernicious things your guy P.R. rants about.
Posted by: dane1 | January 14, 2010 10:44 AM
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Mad Pat and all the other right wing religious nuts in America are the moral excrement of the planet. What really incenses me is that they live in a tax free zone as they use their toxic ideology (which they call religion) to avoid paying their fair share to sociey. Such parasites!
Posted by: truthdog | January 14, 2010 10:45 AM
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Barry Goldwater once said about Falwell "every good Christian should kick Falwell in the ass"; same could be said about Robertson.
Posted by: mentat99 | January 14, 2010 10:46 AM
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Thank GOD I'm an athiest!!
Posted by: Arggg | January 14, 2010 10:50 AM
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Of course we should pay attention to Pat Robertson. He reflects the feelings and opinions of his 700 Club followers. It tells ut that there are several million very sick people in America and we should know that.
Posted by: ridagana | January 14, 2010 10:51 AM
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Pat Robertson is a piece of dog sh##t. Plain and simple.
He is the example of what JESUS warned against, a FALSE prophet.
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Posted by: A-Voter | January 14, 2010 10:53 AM
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Isn't about time ABC/Disney revisited their relationship to the 700 Club. I know that airing the show was a condition for their purchase of ABC/Family but if I were them I'd drop the whole things and start over with a fresh brand......
Posted by: PhD9 | January 14, 2010 10:53 AM
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Because religion is mass insanity, we don't often notice how crazy it really is. We notice only when one of the most deluded makes a particularly bizarre claim. Then we condemn him, but his statement follows logically from the twisted tenets of religious mythology.
Posted by: jpanzal | January 14, 2010 10:55 AM
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Every time Pat Robertson opens his mouth publicly, what comes out is more voo-doo than Christianity. The man is evil. I can't find anything online or in print this morning where the Christian community has condemned him. Maybe most of Christianity has decided to follow its voo-doo wing.
Posted by: dnealesq | January 14, 2010 10:56 AM
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Mark 10:24: It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
John 8:44-46: You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
There are more, but you get the idea. Based on his acts, his words, and his wealth, which is more likely: Pat Robertson as man of God, or as tool of the devil? I believe the evidence speaks for itself...
Posted by: jetchs | January 14, 2010 10:57 AM
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Wow, the hatred and venom overflowing against Robertson from the very kind, compassionate, and tolerant left is breathtaking. The refrain that he should be somehow silenced ("Sadly however, the media continues to give him a voice") strikes me as rather undemocratic and counter to our cherished ideals of free speech. It is one thing to disagree with other viewpoints in a reasoned manner, but most of the postings here amount to little more than the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted by: RogerGoldleader | January 14, 2010 10:57 AM
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and remember that Virginia's new governor is a disciple of Pat's. Hang on, Virginia!!!!
Posted by: ron1944 | January 14, 2010 10:58 AM
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Who listens to this sick fu%k?
Are they that many idiots in America?.... ohh yes, the Palin supporters.
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Posted by: A-Voter | January 14, 2010 10:59 AM
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I too detect the distinct whiff of sulfur, but it is coming from Robertson, not the people of Haiti.
As it says in the Gospel According to Matthew, "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"
What are the fruits of Robertson's long career?. Well, he's rich. And, every once in a while, he speaks words clearly calculated to put treasure to his pocket and fear and suspicion into his viewer's minds.
By your fruits you shall know them. With this latest prophecy, the distinct whiff of sulfur is emanating from Robertson's direction.
Posted by: 1EgoNemo | January 14, 2010 11:00 AM
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Mr. Robertson could be right. Just because Haiti is mostly Roman Catholic doesn't mean that anyone ever REPENTED of that former pact with the devil. Repentance reverences Jesus Christ.
Posted by: darlenemiller85
Even if there had been such a pact, the folks that made it are long dead. How can folks who are alive today repent of a sin they didn't commit, a sin that would have been committed generations before they were born?
Posted by: lepidopteryx | January 14, 2010 11:00 AM
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Beyond theology and history, Haiti needs practical solutions to rebuild. I hope they do NOT rebuild back on top of that fault line! That's like Mississippi flood victims rebuilding again right back in the the flood plan. Or Hurricane victims rebuilding right back at the shoreline. I anticipate hundreds of millions of US tax dollars helping people restart their lives in the exact same position to get wiped out again. Now is the time for us footing the bill to rebuild that forlorn place in a place of safety.
Posted by: schaeffz | January 14, 2010 11:03 AM
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Robertson has a vast fortune. He could atone by giving a few tens of millions to help the Haitian people.
But will he?
Not likely.
Not when he has far right Republican political candidates to support.
Posted by: Hillman1 | January 14, 2010 11:03 AM
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I thank God for the conscience He has given me that I try not to be selfish, greedy, racist, bigot, anti-evolution, anti-environment, anti-people, callous and ruthless.
I know I am not perfect.
Posted by: zebra4 | January 14, 2010 11:04 AM
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What I'd love to tell Pat Robertson, to his face, is the following:
Earthquakes are caused by the motion and rubbing together of the plates at the surface of the Earth. For any of the many potential disasters that can hit the planet earth at any time, there is a scientific explanation.
Some people live to old age (such as yourself) while others die young. Some of those people who live to old age have made little or no contribution to the good of the whole, while some who die young were doing great good in the world. People just die, sooner or later, and there's no rhyme or reason for it. It just happens.
I can just picture you, Mr. Robertson, sitting and praying that God will give you enough time to get to see the next big quake hit Los Angelas. I can only imagine that inward glee that would afford you--why, there are so many "sins" that you can name, imagined or real, that people in that large city participate in. Oh, how you would love to prophesy on that one. Well, let me ask you--how would things change in your mind if something really freakish happened to one of your own--someone you love? Would you wonder then what to blame that on?
The fact is, you are a priviledged human being, you have not experienced the great poverty that most of the Haitian people have endured. You have no right to say at all why they must suffer as they do. Fact is, exactly what is the difference between your reasoning using your very angry and violent god that you worship and that of, say, the extremists Islamic followers who turn their god into that same hating and violent being in order to explain acts of violence against others? I see no difference at all. You are a pitiless human being using the god you have created in your own mind in order to somehow justify your own hatred of others. Do us all a favor--just SHUT UP!!!
Posted by: saf62 | January 14, 2010 11:07 AM
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Old Pat, has become that which he's railed against:
He's EVIL INCARNATE
He's guilty of casting stones
He has become a money changer
He poisons the minds he comes into contact with.
He has no morals
He has no scruples
He has no shame.
He's become something the world can do without.
So, why are schools accredited.
Why are his schools graduates being hired within our government?
Why is this bottom feeder getting ANY airtime?
It makes one wonder........
Posted by: BellsBlu2 | January 14, 2010 11:09 AM
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Pat Robertson knows what he’s talking about. Haiti has been under the severe admonishment of God for a long time, for their falling away. Put away the witchcraft, Haitians, and go back to your biblical roots. Long before the Europeans and Africans corrupted you, you were a holy people and Moses was your brother.
Posted by: gmoneygriff | January 14, 2010 11:10 AM
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Robertson is one of the most vile humans alive today... there must be a special place in hell for his kind, along with hitler etc.
Posted by: kkrimmer | January 14, 2010 11:10 AM
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Has Bob McDonnell said anything in response to his mentor and supporter's statement? Does he agree with Robertson? The people of Virginia deserve to know. Now.
Posted by: bigbrother1 | January 14, 2010 11:11 AM
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Well, Robertson's consistent - I'll give him that. He was quick to blame the U.S. for the 9-11 attacks, or at least those people in the country with whom he disagrees politically; and he probably weighed in with his pearls of wisdom after the Indonesian tsunami (if he did, thankfully I missed it). So, it's really no surprise that everyone's crazy uncle would want to capitalize on another nation's misery by blaming the victim.
I'd say he has Alzheimers except that he's always been like this.
Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | January 14, 2010 11:11 AM
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Pat Robertson does not speak as a Christian nor does he represent Christian ideals. He is a greedy, self centered creature that will get his just reward and IMHO his reward will be a tad warm.
Posted by: Freethotlib | January 14, 2010 11:11 AM
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I wonder what New Orleans did to derved Katrina.
Pat Robertson is a fkn mentally ill person, and all those who follow or listen to this idiot.
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Posted by: A-Voter | January 14, 2010 11:14 AM
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Just one more example of what utter complete lunatics Republicans are, specially their so called base which is this evangelical Christian doom and gloom psychos.
U can read a great related article here:
anoox.com/blog/Real_News.34034
Posted by: RealNews1 | January 14, 2010 11:15 AM
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Sad as it may sound, looks like this so called God's man Mr. Robertson has a mensuration of the Mouth problem.
It's natures cycle built in to his mouth and nasty head. Just Pray for his going back to HIS GOD!
Posted by: dpduggal | January 14, 2010 11:15 AM
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As an American citizen, Pat Robertson has a right to his "opinion" as much as each of you do. I think he is wrong about Haiti and the Haitian people. I think God allows each of us to individually choose to worship him in our own manner. People give lucifer "The devil", wayy to much credit. So does Pat Robertson. When you do this you distract from the message of all faiths that God is a God of Love. Not hate, fear and terrorism tactics to make you obey him. Not voodoo spells or incantations to keep you in line. That crap comes from people who have no real power to sway your God given right of free will to their way. Christianity, by the way folks, does not make such broad condemnations of anyone. people who worship voodoo, Muslims, Buddhist or even atheist are given a right by God to choose. As a Christan American I choose to worship Jesus Christ as my lord and savior. As a human being being fascinated with a life that allows me to see such beautiful places as the Caribbean and many other places in this country and throughout the world and know that no man has created these things, but a God that shares them freely and equally to All People. To know that we as a race of beings haven't even begun to scratch the surface of understanding of the universe we live in, new planets are discovered every day totally turning our view of life on it's ear. As a "Christan" I will not place my meager understanding of life in perspective to these wonders, least alone not against their Creator. Jesus died for our sins. He did not kill, condemn or destroy anyone nor does Christianity. If anyone tells you different, learn for yourself and don't get caught up in some attempt to empower your limited mortal lifespan by embracing some anti Christan beliefs because they excite you or make you feel strong. God is reaching out to us all every day people. Maybe we need to understand that he just want us to reach out to each other as Jesus Christ did as an example. Read the Bible for what it is. Let your faith take you on a righteous path, not one that tells you the lie that you have condemnation powers because you think different.
Posted by: cadams3@hotmail.com | January 14, 2010 11:15 AM
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Until I see an actual sign of christianity removing lunatics like Pat and Rush from their ranks and proactively exiling them, people like me will continue to view all of you in the same boat of crazy.
There was a reason that England kicked out the pilgrims, maybe its time we took a tip from history.
Posted by: alex35332 | January 14, 2010 11:15 AM
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Pat belongs to the "40s-50s style of Southern Bapastist stupid view of Christianity that thought that being a Christian meant what you didn't do-like dance, play card, drink or go to movies-instead of what you did do like "love your neighbor" or "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
He has obviously become senile and an idiot. The Christians need to get him off the air and into a retirement home as soon as possible, as he is an disgrace to those of us who love Jesus.
Posted by: skipfonner | January 14, 2010 11:17 AM
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If I lived in Virginia I would certainly want to know if my Governor supports this bullsh!t... I think your Commonwealth is in great danger!
Posted by: scoogy | January 14, 2010 11:18 AM
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The Protestant Christian movement started with the premise that the Bible should not be interpreted by clergy only, and that no person can claim to speak with God on a personal basis. Robertson is trying to hi-jack the Protestant faith by being in unique communication with God. This is absolute blasphemy, and his statements go far beyond the borders cruelty and evil intentions. He should be shunned by his fellow man.
Posted by: tempestite | January 14, 2010 11:20 AM
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Robertson had extensive business dealings with Liberian president Charles Taylor. Taylor gave Robertson the rights to mine for diamonds in Liberia's mineral-rich countryside. According to two Operation Blessing pilots, Robertson used his Operation Blessing planes to haul diamond-mining equipment to Robertson's mines in Liberia, despite the fact that Robertson was telling his 700 Club viewers that the planes were sending relief supplies to the victims of the genocide in Rwanda. In response to Taylor's alleged crimes against humanity the United States Congress passed a bill In November 2003 that offered two million dollars for his capture. Robertson accused President Bush of "undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country." At the time Taylor was harboring Al Qaeda operatives who were funding their operations through the illegal diamond trade.
I wonder what God thinks about that Pat!
Posted by: clintatl | January 14, 2010 11:20 AM
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A pact with the devil. Is that what they call getting involved with Charles Taylor, illegal gold mining in Liberia and funding violence in Sierra Leone? If so, Pat Robertson would know.
We Christians need to take a page out of the playbook we have been giving to the Muslims and officially dispute when our fellow Christians in positions of power use and abuse the name of Christ.
Posted by: hootie1fan | January 14, 2010 11:21 AM
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Pat Robertson is gay.
Posted by: Maddogg | January 14, 2010 11:22 AM
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The fact that is moron is still on television and that a large number of our fellow Americans actually believe this nonsense is cause for real alarm. Religion is a pox on the world. The faith morons will probably kill us all in the end.
Posted by: fare777 | January 14, 2010 11:24 AM
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The only good thing about Pat Robertson is that his ridiculous comments demonstrate the complete vacuity of belief in an all powerful God. If there is an omnipotent God then of course he/she may have had a hand in the Haitain earthquake. Would anyone suggest that God could not cause an earthquake or stop one? If you are to believe such hogwash then you must also believe that Pat Robertson and his ilk might reasonably attempt to attach some motive to God's wrath, if he/she even needs a motive, or if we mere mortals can even understand God's plan.
Posted by: flatty | January 14, 2010 11:25 AM
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Pat Robertson is Correct. The things Pat Robertson said are true statements.
Posted by: makom | January 14, 2010 11:25 AM
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Wow, it's he dead yet??? Some one throw him a Crow's foot. LoL... With comments like that he should be anyway. What a ashame to be so stupid. Really, thought Pat had more common sense than that what he talks and displays. Anyone following that brand of belief, "We seriously need to pray for him and them while we pray for the Haitians." Besides, what's wrong with being Catholic anyway???
Posted by: lastyear53 | January 14, 2010 11:25 AM
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It's sadly typical of Robertson and, no doubt, many of his followers that instead of empathizing with the suffering of others and exhorting his flock to make relief donations to Haiti he finds a way to blame them for their plight.
And of course if you believe the victims are in league with the devil, you don't have to dip into your pockets to help -- rather convenient.
Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | January 14, 2010 11:26 AM
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"Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do so in the name of religion." -- Blaise Pascal
Posted by: robmartlaw | January 14, 2010 11:27 AM
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Can this really be happening?
Posted by: quiensabe | January 14, 2010 11:27 AM
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Robertson's inerrant instruction manual contradicts the notion of inherited sin (Original Sin excepted)
1. Ezek 18:1-4; 18-20; Jer 32:29-30
2. Exodus 32:3133
3. Mt 12:36-37;
4. Rom 2:6; 2
5. Cor 5:10;
6. 1 Pe 1:17
7. 1 Jn 3:4
Bit me, Patrick.
Posted by: tojby_2000 | January 14, 2010 11:28 AM
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Can't you see that Robertson is right! God knows how to punish those Evil Doers. Why just look at all those hurricanes that criss-crossed Florida after they threw the 2000 election to George Bush. And, the fires that swept West Texas for their support of Bush's wars or the fires that continually ravage conservative Southern California. (I haven't figured out their sins yet.) It seems to me that if "bad folks" are being punished with these god-wrought natural disasters for their lapses then the same hell-and-brimstone philosophy has got to apply to those self-proclaimed rightous ones as well. Agree?
Posted by: WJNovak | January 14, 2010 11:28 AM
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If Robertson and his fellow Christians are going to heaven, then hell will be paradise.
Posted by: kycol2 | January 14, 2010 11:29 AM
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Pat Robertson has serious influence over his 700 Club audience. When he says "True fact" about some odd digression of toxic myth, he has implanted disinformation.
His impuse to find a divine "reason" for all events would comical if he was ranting in an attic to his cats. It is harmful when his audience seriously believes him. Better to look at the real root causes:
centuries of crushing debt originating after Haiti's "liberation" from France, lack of competent infrastructure, rampant corruption in leadership, and - tragically - no appropriate building codes in an earthquake zone. Rebuild it piece by piece and forget looking for the devil.
Posted by: roboturkey | January 14, 2010 11:31 AM
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A padded cell, that is where Pat Robertson belongs.
Posted by: probashi | January 14, 2010 11:32 AM
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A padded cell, that is where Pat Robertson belongs.
"Bigotry is the sacred disease."
--Heraclitus 535-475 BC
Posted by: probashi | January 14, 2010 11:34 AM
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The demented comments and hateful actions of those that believe in imaginary sky daddies is nothing short of mind boggling. How can anyone take the religious seriously? Its obvious they're mentally handicapped.
Posted by: brattykathyi1 | January 14, 2010 11:35 AM
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I absolutely agree! Surely Pat Robertson is the devil himself - I can't imagine how else he could spew such insensitivity and hatred. I am not a republican, but as a christian can say that I am truly embarrased to share the same religion as this monster. Then again, maybe not, because this man does not, can not serve the same God as I.
Posted by: loyd7 | January 14, 2010 11:36 AM
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Whether the people made any kind of pact with the French is irrelevant. Any type of insinuation that they "deserve" what they get because of past actions, and his history of such insinuations, is what will condemn Robertson to eternity in hell.
Posted by: mdembski1 | January 14, 2010 11:37 AM
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I blame the FCC for not containing idiots like Pat Robertson. The do not allow people in this country to shout "FIRE" in a crowded auditorium but allow Pat Robertson, who certainly seems to be the personification of the devil, to fool the most ignorant (yes, I do mean some politicians as well) people in our country. There is, or should be, a limit on free speech such as this so called religious freak spouts. I guess, for the politicians, who are his adorers, I would have to blame the ignorant people who vote for them and think that they are Christians.
Posted by: gilbertpb40 | January 14, 2010 11:39 AM
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"I will defend Pat Robertson here not so much for religious reasons but because the overwhelming majority of your comments are so disrespectful, mocking, snide, "clever," and anti-everything; and the post editors themselves should be ashamed of themselves for stirring up such anti-fundamentalist fervor"
So for you, it's OK to say that very poor people deserve to suffer and die because of something you think their ancestors may have done, but not OK to criticize someone in a snide way for saying that?
Mr. Robertson - a wealthy man with a good deal of power in his chosen field - is persecuted, PERSECUTED because he's verbally criticized in a snarky manner - but it's OK to slander and insult poor folks already struggling for survival, devastated from an earthquake, mourning their dead, caring for the injured and maimed with what pitifully few resources they have, and desperately hunting for missing loved ones?
My, you "loving Christians" have strange priorities. Bet your loving Jesus would publicly call Robertson a hypocrite and possibly nastier words, if he had time before he caught his plane to rush down to do whatever he could for the sick, injured, dying and grieving folks in Haiti.
Posted by: Catken1 | January 14, 2010 11:40 AM
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Here's what's sad: There are countless thousands of otherwise good Americans who actually buy into Pat Robertson's nasty little message.
Haiti is in dire need of help. Those Pat Robertson believers are not about to help out those who made a, "pact with the devil".
These people won't have to make tough decisions on how and where to distribute their donation money; the good reverend has made those decisions for them. So .. Not to worry Pat .. All that money will continue to pour uninterrupted into your ever overflowing donation coffers.
Posted by: kcooper35 | January 14, 2010 11:42 AM
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Maybe Ol' Pat can ask Satan about this personally when he finally dies. And, just as a side note: THIS GUY DOES NOT REPRESENT THE GOP ANYMORE THAN GUYS LIKE WARD CHURCHILL REPRESENT THE DEMS (Ward is the Univ of Colorado Professor who said the victims of 9/11 deserved to die because they were "little Eichmanns" working for the man). Thanks!
Posted by: hsroth1 | January 14, 2010 11:42 AM
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Robertson makes me long for the days when I was a believer - just so I can have the satisfaction of knowing there is a hell.
Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | January 14, 2010 11:43 AM
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False Profits
The God fearing, God-is-on-our-side crowd. The nasty, preachy Christian swarm. On the march! A Western version of the Taliban. The borne-again's, the multi-headed Christian evangelists. The false profits, with their multimillion-dollar compensations for bringing the message of peace, love and forgiveness ... no meanness, to the masses. Jesus must be rolling in his grave. I'd just love to be a Praying Mantis on the wall when these so called men and women of GOD go before the BIG DOG for their entrance interview. Think they'll be given the keys to the magic kingdom? Extremists, army's of fanatical Religious zealots, driven by greed, control and power in this life, intolerant of the very world God created. Preaching salvation and bliss in the next life for those who believe and eternal damnation to all non believers. The Theory of Evolution will not be tolerated. Charles Darwin is Satin, Science is the Anti-Christ. Global warming is a left wing conspiracy and the Sun isn't yellow it's chicken ... thanks Bob. Goose-step is resurrected before our very eyes(The Lion and the Unicorn).
Posted by: morphylius | January 14, 2010 11:43 AM
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Feel the love coming from the "tolerant" crowd that views itself as morally superior to Pat Robertson. They are guilty of every single offense of which they accuse Robertson -- and then some. What's more, they proudly put it on display for all to see here.
Posted by: RhymesWithRight | January 14, 2010 11:45 AM
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pat robertson = EVIL
Only a horrible & evil person would make a comment like his. What a time to hurt the Haitians even more than they are feeling right now.
Please help Haiti if you can and however you can. Peace.
Posted by: shejoy | January 14, 2010 11:46 AM
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Is it shameful? In a word: Yes. Continue to pay attention? Only with half an ear. Robertson has proved repeatedly that he's about as Christian as the devil he denounces.
Posted by: ChrisB25 | January 14, 2010 11:46 AM
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Pat Robertson is Correct. The things Pat Robertson said are true statements.
Posted by: makom | January 14, 2010 11:25 AM
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There is no imaginary sky daddy.
There is no boogieman in the closet.
There is no truth in the words of this lunatic.
Posted by: brattykathyi1 | January 14, 2010 11:47 AM
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"By the way -- I find it interesting that so many who seem to reject Robertson's right to judge others are quick to judge Robertson." - Rhymeswithright
As many know, there's a Christian tenet: "Judge not, that ye be not judged" from the Sermon on the Mount. It's one that Christians themselves often rather conveniently forget; the day-to-day gossip and petty power struggles of most church-related social worlds would not work well under this restriction. The teaching goes on to relate that the same measure will later be taken in your own judgment. That's reasonable enough; it should be a sobering thought.
But some of us are not judging Robertson in our comments. That's missing the point. We are pointing with concern and disgust--at a demon walking among us on the earth.
Posted by: McBriar | January 14, 2010 11:48 AM
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What Robertson said is positively evil--not merely stupid and money-grubbing. Why evil? Because he validates his holier-than-thou followers (or, better, "dupes") in their natural inclination to blame the victims of this terrible tragedy. Those victims, of course, are overwhelmingly black, poor, and of an unfamiliar culture.
Needless to say, this is as far from Christianity as the ravings of the Taliban and Al Qaeda are from Islam. Robertson's kinship to hatemongers of the Osama bin Laden sort is obvious. And because Robertson claims to speak for Christianity and obviously commands a large (and lucrative) following among American fundamentalists, his vile and idiotic words have consequences. It is not enough merely to ignore him or to write him off as a raving old fool.
Other "evangelical" leaders, as well as their political allies (yes, I have Sarah Palin in mind), must be put on the spot and forced either to repudiate and denounce Robertson's vicious, ignorant, and hateful statement or else be held up for public execration.
Posted by: jasm917 | January 14, 2010 11:50 AM
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I used to blame the devil too when I was a kid..never worked to well.
Posted by: mac7 | January 14, 2010 11:51 AM
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He is a little piece of pseudo religiou$ offal that believe$ in hi$ own per$onal comfort. He doesn't seem to remember the Beatitudes in the Bible.
Christ would be embarassed by this little piece of hypocrisy strutting his pride and arrogance, while invoking the name of religion.
Maybe someone in Haiti can make a voodoo dole of this fake. All they would need is some rat dung and straw.
Posted by: rayboyusmc44 | January 14, 2010 11:53 AM
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Which is better - Pat Robertson saying that Haitians made a pact with the devil, or commentators calling Robertson the devil because he says such outrageous things?
The tragedy that has befallen Haiti is doubly worse - if you can imagine that - because the country suffers from such corruption. There isn't even equipment already in Haiti to help the people who want to rescue survivors. And leaving equipment behind, after rebuilding has started, would be wonderful if it meant the economy and standard of living was raised even a little bit.
I have to wonder why the U.S. pats itself on the back for 'nation building' when the countries occupied clearly didn't invite us. Yet, a country like Haiti, which offers no strategic benefit, is largely ignored.
I did not know Haiti was Roman Catholic. As soon as I heard of the earthquake, I knew that Catholic Charities would be there, though - it always is. They have been there and they live to serve...
Posted by: KathyWi | January 14, 2010 11:54 AM
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The Rev Robertson was absolutley wrong to say what he did. But I'm not going to call into that Liberal Trap trying to make people think that the hard Christian Right is a threat to the US. I fear the hard left more then I do those that spout hurtful words. The Left is engaged in the utter destruction of the US. Hard right wants you to live a straigt and narrow path and would like to force their views on others. Pretty simple choice for me.
Posted by: Cobra2 | January 14, 2010 11:54 AM
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"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about," Robertson said Tuesday on his 700 Club show. "They were under the heel of the French, you know Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said 'We will serve you if you will get us free from the prince.'
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So Pat is eluding to the fact that Toussaint LeOveture, (SP), the man instrumental in throwing off the yoke of slavery, made a pact with the devil to do it.
Hidden meaning there? Should the Haitians have been "GOOD" Christians and waited until death for peace and salvation from their inhumane suffering, you know that “PIE IN THE SKY" mentality.
Hogwash!! Besides acts of nature of which we have no escape, Haiti is in the predicament it is in because Europeans and Americans remember their rebellious ex-slaves and have made sure they remain impoverished. Check your HIStory and read between the lines……
Posted by: wise_pharaoh | January 14, 2010 11:54 AM
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I think it will be most interesting to see which, if any , republican officials--in Congress, Governors, the RNC, Caribou Barbie, Huckaby, Hume, etc -- call Robertson out on this. Just how fearful are they of him and his right wingnut followers who lap this false history and bunk ? Maybe he should send some of the millions his "empire" hs amassed to help people in Haiti who are in desparate need . Oh, BTW, was Ol' Pat present when this "pact with the devil " was made? I know he's old, but THAT old?
Posted by: jmsbh | January 14, 2010 11:55 AM
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"Years ago I wrote a column saying that we should pay attention to the crazy things Robertson says because his thinking reflects the thinking of millions of fundamentalist Christians, many of whom support his multi-million-dollar "Christian" media empire and the political views he espouses."
Sorry, but you are sorely mistaken if you are confusing Robertson with so called "Fundamental" Christianity. If anything he is more closer to the pentecostal/charismatic persuasion than fundamentalist. Not saying that the Fundamentalists are better or worse than Robertson either, I used to consider myself one before I grew tired of the Hyper-legalism, but to mis-characterize him as being fundamentalist is to cast a net over the wrong group of people instead of the other false prophets and loons that have lost the true meaning of the Gospel.
Posted by: Veretax | January 14, 2010 11:57 AM
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Regardless of religion, culture, or other feelings about Haiti, this nation is in deep distress and needs help. I am an African-American Christian who does not believe in the voodon religion practiced by 50% of the people in Haiti, but I am sending money to help people in need, not people of a particular faith or religion. I don't understand how Pat Robertson can see the past sins of other nations, but never acknowledges the wrongs done in this country to Native Americans and during slavery. Actually, all sins are forgiven by God, so who is Pat Robertson to pass judgement on anybody?
Posted by: FrogTownDiva | January 14, 2010 11:58 AM
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I just can't believe that people still contribute to this guy. Just proves out the "bigger idiot" theory.
Posted by: jjj141 | January 14, 2010 11:59 AM
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"As a Haitian-American I am beyond disgusted that he would make these comments. I have never been a fan of his, but I would hope that as a "religious leader" he would ask people to pray for the Haitian people. :
Well, he did and he is sending lots of money as I understand it. But of course, that part of his statements were not widely quoted since the media has an agenda to make him look bad.
While I also was offended by Pat's insensitivity, most of the angry statements on this blog are just emotional responses based on ignorance, intolerence and hate and can be dismissed outright.
Fortunately, God has a lot more mercy than you people. Many of you, dear readers, would have everyone you just don't like in hell if you had the power.
Posted by: AnotherContrarian | January 14, 2010 12:02 PM
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I hate it when people claim that certain events are god's retribution. Here's another one from the recent past. None other than Robert F. Kennedy Jr., in real time on Sunday nite 8/29/2005, claimed that Katrina's heading to Mississippi (instead of New Orleans) was some sort of retribution for Governor Haley Barbour's policies, citing Robertson, no less!! Two of the same ilk!! Sadly for New Orleans, history has proven Kennedy's remarks were very premature, and Mississippi, as we as well know faired no better. Kennedy's commentary follows:
"In 1998, Republican icon Pat Robertson warned that hurricanes were likely to hit communities that offended God. Perhaps it was Barbours memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast. [UPDATE: Alas, the reprieve for New Orleans was only temporary. But Haley Barbour still has much to answer for.]" from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/for-they-that-sow-the-win_b_6396.html
Posted by: carelessfills | January 14, 2010 12:02 PM
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The bad part is that the new VA gov. when to this guy's law school and considers him a friend. Let's hope the apple doesn't fall to close to the tree in this case.
Posted by: joelp77440 | January 14, 2010 12:02 PM
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Dear Friends of Pat Robertson that are reading these scandalous hateful attack on a great Christian and Religious leader - please send $$$$$ to this poor beleaguered Pastor to help him fight the evilness that is giving Satan a foothold in this great Christian founded country of ours, help save us from ourselves!
Vote Palin 2012! She is what this country deserves!
Posted by: kparc | January 14, 2010 12:05 PM
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The international humanitarian response to the Haitian tragedy speaks loudly in comparison to small minded, dismissive remarks made by Pat Robertson.
A man who disguises his hatred of fellow human beings under the mantle of religion and presumes that the Almighty agrees with that hatred is small in spirit and profoundly pathetic.
Posted by: MillPond2 | January 14, 2010 12:06 PM
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Palin, Robertson, Coulter, Rush Limbaugh... Ahhh the ignorant, knuckle-dragging right. Ya gotta love these knuckle-heads!
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 12:08 PM
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David_Anthony_Hohol is right - the biggest problem here is not simply Robertson, but what he represents, and the large following he has. He heads a huge industry, which feeds on ignorance, hatred and bigotry. For him, statements like this are his bread and butter - each time a disaster happens, followed by one of his outrageous statements, a few folks finally come to their senses and stop following him, but the controversy it stirs just feeds his followers, who see the controversy as further evidence of his being a "prophet." It doesn't matter that none of it is true (and it isn't - as has already been mentioned, the story of "selling Haiti to the Devil" is pure fiction, based on a European understanding of what went wrong ("they couldn't have possibly beat a good God-fearing nation like us - which introduced slavery, oppression of every sort, a host of verereal diseases, etc. to them - so they must have made a pact with the devil!). The deal made with the French afterward, which was sometimes referred t as a "pact with the devil" is purely a literary device for describing a "very bad deal," as anyone who actually has any education should know.
Robertson has never cared about truth, nor is he a preacher of the Gospel (which means "good news" - since when is any of this "good news" to the Haitians?). He is a false prophet. Jesus said that Christians will be known by their fruits. We see the fruits of Robertson - personal wealth from an empire built upon ignorance, hatred and bigotry.
By the way, if anyone would like to actually help the Haitians, there are a couple of groups that have been working there for a long time, who could use your help. Two excellent ones, that will use one hundred percent of gifts directly toward assistance there, are Lutheran World Relief and Churc World Service. You can make donation on-line.
Posted by: garoth | January 14, 2010 12:08 PM
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This bears re-posting, from clintatl. I cannot get my head around the abominations of this hypocritical charlatan:
Robertson had extensive business dealings with Liberian president Charles Taylor. Taylor gave Robertson the rights to mine for diamonds in Liberia's mineral-rich countryside.
According to two Operation Blessing pilots, Robertson used his Operation Blessing planes to haul diamond-mining equipment to Robertson's mines in Liberia, despite the fact that Robertson was telling his 700 Club viewers that the planes were sending relief supplies to the victims of the genocide in Rwanda.
In response to Taylor's alleged crimes against humanity the United States Congress passed a bill In November 2003 that offered two million dollars for his capture.
Robertson accused President Bush of "undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country."
At the time Taylor was harboring Al Qaeda operatives who were funding their operations through the illegal diamond trade.
Posted by: SurlyGirly | January 14, 2010 12:10 PM
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This criminal psychopath extorts, embezzles, and is a blatant racketeer protected by political opportunists, fellow Christian bigots and evangelical racketeers, and twisted laws of religious freedoms. This man is evil incarnate, a despicable example of human greed and avarice, a perfect example of so-called Christian leadership, and a man that should be ashamed to even exist! How many thousands has he deluded and defrauded?
Posted by: Chaotician | January 14, 2010 12:11 PM
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Pat Robertson didn't come up with the idea on his own, he was articulating an idea that's been around for an awfully long time. Google "Haiti" and "Pact with the Devil" and you will find a LOT of articles and histories that pre-date this particular tragedy. I think it was a stupid and ill-timed remark, but he didn't make it up, and it was something that his audience was probably thinking, anyway.
Posted by: dooleyj | January 14, 2010 12:11 PM
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Interesting just as many Muslims do not denounce their murderous terrorists, many Christians do not denounce the right-wing extremism of Robertson, Phelps and the Huckabee pundits of Fox News like Hume, O'Reilly, Gringrinch, Palin, KKKarl Rove and the original Huckbee, the so-called "Reverend" Mike.
I see some Christians high-fiving each other over Robertson's remarks just as I saw my Saudi Muslim co-workers high-fiving each other on 9/11.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 14, 2010 12:13 PM
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The similarities between Christian fundamentalists and Muslim fundamentalists are amazing! But, that's been true for more than a thousand years hasn't it!
Posted by: ChoKum | January 14, 2010 12:18 PM
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America is NOT exempt though ,
In THIS country we have Brutal Satanists , who Abduct Children and
Adults to , RAPE , TORTURE , and Brutalize thier bodies to The Ancient
Gods of Hell. Sabbatean - Frankists Like : Abortionist Doctor Philip Kitner
of Asheville North Carolina, Abortionist Doctor Warren Hern of Boulder Co,
Norma Fitzwater of Ohio, Michael and Lilth Aquino of St. Louis Mo.
These Yezidiya ( Aramic Satan -Set -Hell Worshippers) REALLY do Torture
humans, Eat them and Drink thier blood. The saw children's faces off with
bandsaws, in satanic rituals .throw people into vats of battery acid ; ,
skin theme alive and eat them .
....all while filming this with cameras to sell blackmarket and make extra monies.
These ceremonies take place in the Caverens on the border of Murphy North Carolina and Tennessee.
Our Country is JUST AS EVIL as Haiti..
Go here to see actual drawing from an EX victim of the Aquinos.
http://www.revolutionzone.co.za/art.php
my point is THE USA is NOT exempt.
~H
Posted by: hotepneferhem | January 14, 2010 12:18 PM
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To the Management American Airlines,
Dear Sir/Madam,
As we all know Haiti has once again suffered another devastating disaster,and I am quite sure your company is doing a lot for the victims and the country at large.
But I have one request, as a Community Activist and a Literature Evangelist working in the Haitian community in Miami Gardens Florida, I see that the immediate families are really hurting, not only hurting for their country and loved ones whose lives, lively hood and only hope is lost, but the fact that many can't even find the airfare required for travel to Haiti.
As a result I am respectfully asking your company for a special package deal or free airline tickets, for at least 100 people for travel to Haiti, so as to bury their dead and attend to other urgent needs brought on by the recent earthquake.
I also have a number of publications on sale in aid of this cause at http://www.missionforthepoor.com or http://www.celebritychatusa.com
Yours truly
Evangelist S.Ferril
Email sellous@msn.com Tel. 954-416-8458
Posted by: sellous | January 14, 2010 12:20 PM
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You would have thought that ignorance on this level died off back in the dark ages. But instead you see so many uneducated, intolerant Americans - especially in uneducated rural areas - ranting about fire and brimstone and who knows what else. Religious fundamentalism and ignorance in the name of Christ or Allah or in any other name is backwards and pathetic. I ask those who take such fundamental positions to think what life in a theocracy would be like...
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 12:20 PM
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As a neighbour to your north, comments like Robertson's and drivel like Chuck Norris' make me fear for the safety of the continent.
They may not be strong enough to rule, but they're crazy enough to sow a whirlwind of chaos calling christian virtue and american patriotism
Posted by: SHAIDORSAI | January 14, 2010 12:24 PM
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Robertsons response is actually quite logical, based on his Christian beliefs. He has to have an explanation for why their god Jehovah would inflict or permit such cruel suffering on innocent people. Other religious leaders, interestingly, are silent on that issue because they have no explanation.
Posted by: occam100 | January 14, 2010 12:26 PM
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Chimps have a more highly evolved world view than PR. If not for the fact that his comments are bigoted and dangerous, they'd be comical.
Posted by: smyles | January 14, 2010 12:27 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me, what “men of God” will do “in the name of God” to further their individual and specific agendas. (And I use the word “men” loosely)
Pat has always been the modern day equivalent of the big fat preacher that played in one of my favorite movies: Oh God. The guy who played the evangelical blow hard that was referred to as “God’s own quarterback”, dripping with gold rings, faux sincerity and pompous self-righteousness.
Pat and his ilk are tragic excuses for human beings much less men of the cloth, not just because of this display of un-Godly logic, but the incessant abuse of the first amendment and tax exempt status. Further examples exist in the wacky Westboro Baptist Church which maintains a website: GOD HATES FAGS .COM. Can you imagine the swift legal repercussions any regular citizen would incur for launching that site, or how about God hates Jews, Lawyers, Journalists, or Christians? Especially when calling for the death of these specific groups again in the name of God as that site did or still does.
Pat all but said they deserve and in fact brought this earthquake upon themselves with this supposed “deal with the devil”.
Here is something to think about, when was the last time you saw Pat Robinson on a commercial flight? Yes, flying to Washington in big private jets to ask for bailout money was a really dumb move, but check out how many multimillion dollar private jets these tax exempt “Churches” have in their inventory…. Tax free mind you. Wouldn’t these disciples of Jesus want to walk the terminal concourses with us?
I’m speaking out, will you?
Posted by: KonaMan | January 14, 2010 12:28 PM
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Even if Pat believes what he says, then he should now call on all of his followers to forgive the Haitians and help them in any way that they can. Wouldn't that be the truly Christian thing to do? Otherwise, I have to believe Jesus Christ would be terribly saddened by our actions for those of us who try to follow His way.
Posted by: brwntrt | January 14, 2010 12:28 PM
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If this is how God punishes voodoo worshippers in Haiti, I wonder how he punishes a nation that is full of secret societies, blood brotherhoods, Masonic temples, Grand Wizards, Wishful Masters, secret lodges(??)...sure sounds like witchcraft to me. The US has voodoo imagery on the DOLLAR! An eye on a pyramid? Where's that in the Bible? I, for one, would like to know what kind of secrets all these elite secret societies are keeping, especially since most of our past Presidents belong(ed) to them. If I were American, I wouldn't be feeling too safe from the wrath of God right about now.
Posted by: forgetthis | January 14, 2010 12:28 PM
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"Haiti’s former dictator, Jean-Claude Duvalier, was a voodoo witchdoctor, and when he was driven from power it was widely rumored that he offered an infant boy as a blood sacrifice to Satan, and cursed the country with an evil spell to bring disasters and suffering upon the Haitian people. You may not believe in that sort of thing, but many Haitians do. Now we must show them that God’s love, expressed through sacrificial people is greater than the forces of darkness.
Just after the earthquake, as huge billows of dust caused by collapsing buildings hung over Port-au-Prince, witnesses heard not only the moans of suffering people, but also the eerie sounds of hymns being sung by Haitian Christians. These are the songs of an undaunted people who are determined to defy Duvalier’s curse with their faith in God.
Help them to hope! Help their prayers to be answered!"
Posted by: amsnider1 | January 14, 2010 12:29 PM
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"Haiti is in dire need of help. Those Pat Robertson believers are not about to help out those who made a, "pact with the devil"."
Posted by: kcooper35
Its interesting to look at who is responding to the Haiti tragedy and who is silent. Obama is mobilizing US efforts, Bill Clinton is mobilizing UN efforts, Carter is mobilizing Habitat For Humanity efforts. Meanwhile Robertson is saying Haiti asked for it and Limbaugh says Obama is exploiting assistance for politics.
Makes me wonder why any Christian would consider voting for a conservative republican. And I agree, what does that VA governor who "graduated" from Robertson's "school" have to say?
Posted by: Fate1 | January 14, 2010 12:31 PM
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Re. Haiti and Robertson: "and Jesus wept."
It would be much better if the Post would put an article on the front page about how Christian and other religions were mobilizing millions of dollars in aid to Haiti.
Instead, the media falls again for the most ridiculous and sensational story by a media manipulator. Robertson is involved in a tiny minority of US Christianity, yet he wins the shrill and stupid media award, again.
Shame on Robertson, and shame on the Post.
Posted by: outragex | January 14, 2010 12:31 PM
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Saying wrath of god causes an earth quake is not crazier than saying a virgin got pregnant by god!
Posted by: Oct2008 | January 14, 2010 12:34 PM
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Can we deport Pat Robertson?
Posted by: McGee2 | January 14, 2010 12:35 PM
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muawiyah: You are spending too much time here...get a life! Go join Pat Robberson and his ilk and hopefully you will burn in hell for daring to think you know what God thinks and wishes for the poor Haitian people.
Posted by: minco_007 | January 14, 2010 12:37 PM
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Posted by RhymesWithRight: Feel the love coming from the "tolerant" crowd that views itself as morally superior to Pat Robertson. They are guilty of every single offense of which they accuse Robertson -- and then some. What's more, they proudly put it on display for all to see here.
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Intolerant of callousness and hate? You bet - everytime it rears its ugly face.
Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | January 14, 2010 12:39 PM
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"Robertsons response is actually quite logical, based on his Christian beliefs."
Posted by: occam100
Where in the scriptures is a son responsible for the sins of his father? The pact, if it really was made, happened over 200 years ago. If Robertson follows scripture, which it seems he does not, he would know no one in Haiti would be held responsible by God for the acts of their ancestors.
What Robertson is espousing is from pagan beliefs originating in the old world religions of witches and curses. It just goes to show that those who follow him do not know much about the religion they say they follow.
Posted by: Fate1 | January 14, 2010 12:39 PM
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As a devout Catholic who was raised in a Lutheran/Episcopalian family, this just drives me nuts. The vast VAST majority of active Christians don't like or subscribe to this guy. Pastors and Priests have been busy all day updating blogs and making other announcements denouncing this. Don't confuse Pat Robertson with Christianity. He's one voice who happens to have gotten a TV show and lost his mind.
Posted by: mwcob | January 14, 2010 12:41 PM
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We need to merge the northern section of Mexico and some southern states and call it Jesusland. Then, we need to ship Ann Coulter, Pat Robertson, right-wing nuts, Christian fundaMENTALists, Joe the plumber, knuckle-dragging idiots who attended McCain/Palin rallies screaming about their fears, Hannity, FOX News, testical-tea-baggers, etc. and let all that intolerance and hatred fester into a 4th world country...
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 12:42 PM
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Shame on Robertson, and shame on the Post.
Posted by: outragex
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Nay. Bravo, Post, for reporting on this public pronouncement by a man who controls the minds and votes of millions of Americans. Knowledge is power - those among us who don't tune in to his network or pay him much mind have had a real eye-opener, here.
Even more disturbing are the posts here that support this man, and take it to the next level. They say that a person's flesh crawls, involuntarily, when confronted with pure evil and lunacy. My flesh has crawled about three miles on its own, today.
Posted by: SurlyGirly | January 14, 2010 12:42 PM
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It would be so much easier to explain the fate of so many desperately bad luck ridden countries if Robertson were right. The middle east comes to mind... I have read so many books but I have yet to understand why some countries are doomed to failure no matter what happens.
Posted by: alvarezlm | January 14, 2010 12:43 PM
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Unspeakably despicable. Feeding off the horrible suffering of others. This man makes me wish there were a hell, so we'd have a place for the likes of him.
Posted by: ian807 | January 14, 2010 12:44 PM
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RE: Posted by: joelp77440
The bad part is that the new VA gov. when to this guy's law school and considers him a friend. Let's hope the apple doesn't fall to close to the tree in this case.
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Sounds just like Obama and Jeremiah Wright.The only distinction being, of course, that Wright demonized all Whites, Jews, the U.S.....Said 9/11 was deserved..... Maybe Robertson and Wright can be bunkmates in Hell. And, oh yeah, if you are going to paint the VA Gov in the same light as the President of his law school and friend Pat Robertson, please do the same for Obama and "Rev" Wright. Obama sat in the pews of Wright's church for over 20 years.
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Posted by: hsroth1 | January 14, 2010 12:45 PM
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Robertson is insane.
Posted by: kchses1 | January 14, 2010 12:46 PM
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Robertson doesn't know Haitian history. Which Napoleon does he think was in power when Toussaint Louverture led the revolt? It was the original, you sanctimonious fool. And how many Taino aboriginals did Christians Christopher Columbus, his brothers and his successor Oviando kill for sport and in the name of their Catholic religion? Virtually the entire population, which was at least 300,000 and maybe several times that. For which genocide, what kind of apologies have been offered by Spain, the Vatican, and now Robertson? Zero.
Posted by: JayinPa1 | January 14, 2010 12:49 PM
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Most Christians believe that God is a benevolent and forgiving God. When we experience the horrors of natural or man made disasters, God provides us the strength to cope with and deal with these trials and tribulations. Contrary to what Robertson is preaching, God is not the cause of these disasters; man of his own freewill causes horrific acts o be committed i.e wars, genocide, murder etc.; added to that we have natural events, earthquakes, floods, volcanic eruptions and the like. Robertson is reverting to the fire and brimstone approach to religion which is truly contrary to what most Christians believe about their God and their religion.
Now is the time to comfort all of those affected by this tragedy and not chastize them as does Robertson with his ill perceived notions of God's retribution.
Posted by: bridgebuilder2 | January 14, 2010 12:49 PM
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Wow, this is completely dispicable. Between the religious freaks like this and the political freaks who like to make a political agenda out of a tragedy like this, I think our country is doomed. People like Pat Robertson and anyone who makes a political agenda out of this should be exiled immediately. Disgusting excuses for human life.
Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 14, 2010 12:50 PM
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Yes..he does own a university and law school at Regent University in Virginia Beach, Virginia. In fact, Virginia voters recently elected a new Governor who graduated from Regent several years ago, and who is very much in alignment with Robertson's way of thinking.
Posted by: bspiers | January 14, 2010 12:50 PM
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What God does Robertson beleive in? He is probably packing up right now to go help those poor Haitians that need God so much, ya think? People like Robertson perpetuate the confusion in Christianity and give every one else a reason not to subscribe to his beliefs. Robertson should crawl back under his rock in the garden.
Posted by: mtstewart1 | January 14, 2010 12:51 PM
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To try and attack Obama by bringing up Wright and comparing him to Robertson----
Was this from Rush?
Posted by: rayboyusmc44 | January 14, 2010 12:52 PM
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Pat Robertson, drop dead
Posted by: sassyjac | January 14, 2010 12:53 PM
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Pat Robertson is the Antichrist. And I know he'd be offended by that characterisation, if he believed in God.
Posted by: MAL9000 | January 14, 2010 12:53 PM
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Hmm
A lot of vile comments on here.
Posted by: rexreddy | January 14, 2010 12:54 PM
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Robertson is very much a staunch harsh Calvinist...probably a reincarnate from another life in the Dark Ages. Definitely from another space and time.
Posted by: bspiers | January 14, 2010 12:55 PM
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Vile comments stemming from comments from a vile man.
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 12:56 PM
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Well, this evangelist says Haiti broke their contract with the debbil in 1997:
http://www.americandaily.com/article/95
So there.
BTW, did you know the category of "non-believer" is the fastest growing religious group in America? I wonder why? Heckuva job, Pat!
Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | January 14, 2010 12:58 PM
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We live on a naturally unstable planet. Earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados...you name it.
Add Pat Robertson to the list.
Posted by: dc1020008 | January 14, 2010 1:00 PM
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Pat Robertson justifies Bill Maher's saying "Religion must die so mankind can live". When Pat dies, he's going straight to hell. No get out of jail free card for him, no, no. Old Pat made a pact with the devil long time ago...that's why he has millions in the bank, a TV show, and schools.....to spread the word of Satan.
It will be interesting to see if any of the other purported "Christian" leaders denounce Pat, or whether by their silence they let their followers know that they agree with the old racist fool.
Posted by: Chagasman | January 14, 2010 1:03 PM
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Right above the comments section, the Washington Post says "Please report offensive comments below."
OK, I am reporting Robertson's comments as offensive. He might be the biggest idiot on the planet.
Posted by: slwapo | January 14, 2010 1:06 PM
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Christian evangelicals are looney tunes and Pat Roberston just fell off the charts and his credibility (not that he ever had any is shot)
Posted by: lildg54 | January 14, 2010 1:09 PM
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I agree with CHAGASMAN. Think about it... when you no longer believe so devoutly that YOUR religion or YOUR god is better than others' - you greatly reduce hatred of others and reduce disagreements, wars, anger, fear, intolerance, etc. Less religion means communicating with others and breaking down barriers - permitting mankind to live together. It's amazing that people can't see that fact!
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 1:13 PM
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"Who is the bigger fool, the fool who leads or the wfool who follows?"
-- Obi Wan Kenobi
Posted by: djmolter | January 14, 2010 1:14 PM
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I agree with SLWAPO - report Robertson's comments as offensive to humanity!
Posted by: lkop56 | January 14, 2010 1:15 PM
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I agree with the Christian comments mentioned that God has given man free will. The Bible also speaks of charity when referring to relationships. Charity and benevolence is kindness, compassion and generosity. Whatever the circumstances or struggles a Christian should never overlook charity. Perhaps Pat Robertson should re-read Corinthians 9:7. The Bible also speaks of natural disasters within the Old Testament Isaiah 28:2. Throughout history there have been earthquakes, violent storms systems, Tornado and Hurricane most notable Katrina. But I don’t recall him speaking out like them.
Posted by: am19199 | January 14, 2010 1:18 PM
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My favorite Robertson "moment" was his declaration that the hurricanes in Florida were caused by gay people visiting Disney World. I guess the fact that the state is a peninsula located in the middle of hurricane alley has nothing to do with it. LOL Those folks who send him their money should re-evaluate how they spend their cash.
Posted by: jaynashvil | January 14, 2010 1:19 PM
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The people bashing Pat are probably the same one who do not believe that the grand canyon was caused by Noah's Flood
Posted by: rjregan | January 14, 2010 1:20 PM
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I cant help but wonder if the 700 club is a veiled reference to the number of tabs of acid Robertson ate to become so bats&%t crazy
Posted by: pbrain | January 14, 2010 1:23 PM
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YOU DON'T NEED TO READ Isaiah 28:2 or Corinthians 9:7 or the old testament or new testament to get a perspective on natural disasters. Use your god-given BRAINS and read a moderately advanced book on history and/or science and you'll actually >> about them.
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 1:23 PM
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This is what passes as "Christianity" in a deeply divided America. I believe that Pat is the one who made a pact with either the devil or his earthly equivalent, Rupert Murdoch to be allowed to pollute our airwaves with his bile. Hey clown! My God is a forgiving God who doesn't need some psycho with a television show geared towards other psychos speaking in his name...
Posted by: braultrl | January 14, 2010 1:25 PM
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As tiny, newborn babies...and their mothers, lie buried in rock and rubble. Crying or having stopped.
This monster and his followers say, well, ha ha, you and yours asked for it. A couple hundred years ago.
If he isn't crazy, fully throated insane,
there's nothing in the world to equal his hate. Like, go follow HIS God.
Posted by: whistling | January 14, 2010 1:25 PM
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some 10 years ago I was at a friend's house when the channel he was watching started showing patso's religion show. I remarked that I thought pat was the most evil man in America today.
My friend's wife, a foaming christian, demanded I apologize, that I "hated him because I hated christians". I told her I hated him because he was evil.
Then comes 9/11 ... I asked her what she though about patso's claim that we deserved what happened to us on that day. She told me I was evil to bring it up to her on a day like that.
I wonder what she thinks about him now?
I also wonder how it is that christians can see how evil the liberals are, but can't see how evil this man is.
That is why the unbelievers worry about you folks. It takes something like this to show you how evil some of your leaders are ... but you won't pay attention, because we're evil unbelievers.
I'm sick of the lot of you.
Posted by: khote14 | January 14, 2010 1:27 PM
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TO am19199: YOU DON'T NEED TO READ Isaiah 28:2 or Corinthians 9:7 or the old testament or new testament to get a perspective on natural disasters. Use your god-given BRAINS and read a moderately advanced book on history and/or science and you'll actually learn about them.
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 1:27 PM
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The '89 quake that hit Frisco was just as large, yet there were only a couple hundred fatalities. What makes this such a grave disaster was the lack of standards for the construction of Haiti's buildings--nothing to do with the devil unless you believe he exists within those people who were responsible.
Posted by: dhenken1 | January 14, 2010 1:28 PM
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I would like to know how does Pat Robertson or any other so-called Christian Scholar, Theologian, et al know that God cursed the Haitians. Did God say this directly to Pat Robertson and others? I haven't read anything about Haitians being cursed in the Old Testament book of the Bible.
Anyway, if God spoke these words to Pat Robertson, then I would assume that Pat Robertson also has the ability to communicate directly with the Devil; and based on my observation, it looks like Pat Robertson has been talking with the Devil more than he has with God.
Go Figure!
Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 14, 2010 1:30 PM
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Robertson's problem is that he has to justify why his god would treat innocent people, supposedly created in his image, with such cruelty. It wouldn't do to suggest that his god, supposedly an improvement on the old testament version, would act capriciously. So he must find a rationale, and why not pick time-tested scapegoats? If it isn't the gays, then it's the satanists. I'm surprised that Brit Hume isn't offering his unique theological take on the subject.
Posted by: gratianus | January 14, 2010 1:31 PM
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His may well be the kind of "Christianity" that justified the Spanish Inquisition, et al.
Posted by: jujones1 | January 14, 2010 1:31 PM
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If i was a prophet i would tell you 'Robertson will die from the weight of his own emptiness" and the same for the willful ignorant 'believers' in their 'be all end all insurance' policy for the so called here-after insanity.
It's all Superstition, rubbish, fiction. Pact's with Satan geeeeeeze Louise - these idiots are idiots.
I'm perplexed that this drivel is in the WaPo but at the same time it's good to continue to expose these charlatans and chauvinist pigs for what they are.
And as an Atheist, (since birth) it's even more perplexing to know that i pray for your 'rapture' that all Reich Wing evangelicals will be vaporized. Yeaaaaaaaaa
Posted by: Darwin26 | January 14, 2010 1:32 PM
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Go to the Red Cross website to verify this if you like. www.redcross.org
"You can text "HAITI" to 90999 to donate $10 to Red Cross relief efforts in Haiti." Who cares what Pat Roberts said they need donations. After you're done donating read up on the history of Haiti.
Posted by: osheehan1 | January 14, 2010 1:33 PM
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Here's a thought: Gawd has "called" Oral Roberts "home." If heaven is a greater life than this one, would it be unkind to hope that Gawd will call Pat also? Soon? Or maybe, it's not Gawd calling at all . . . .
Posted by: sailmaker1943 | January 14, 2010 1:36 PM
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Like I've said in the past;
Its time to purge all southern baptists.
Posted by: myofbaolcom | January 14, 2010 1:38 PM
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Dear Pat,
My god tells me that you are evil and that you will burn in hell for eternity.
Love,
Jesus
Posted by: wiz_fan | January 14, 2010 1:39 PM
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When a tree fell and killed a person, people back in ancient times believed the tree gods had punished that person. But that was understandable given their lack of advancement. Fast forward to mid 2000s when Pennsylvania had some horrible flooding and Robertson actually said it was because the state had voted Democratic! There's no excuse for such sheer stupidity in the western world. And yet, people like Robertson and other looney right-wing nuts do everything they can to dumb down this country and keep it from advancing.
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 1:45 PM
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Apparently, Eboo Patel loves Christian evangelicals. One assumes some of them support monetarily, his International Youth Core i.e. Eboo's salary.
Do you think Pat R. is one of Eboo's supporters??
Is there such a thing as an Islamic evangelical? Of course, every Muslim on the globe to include Eboo Patel who as per the koran wants to dominate the world!!!
Posted by: ccnl1 | January 14, 2010 1:47 PM
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Pat Robertson is best portrayed in the South Park Episode, Starvin' Marvin in Space. Pat is a cruel joke on innocent minds.
Pat exploits all people who think Christ carried a gun, and loves only rich people…..hence the 700 Club, for all fools that scored under 700 on their SATs.
Tax them, TAX PAT. They are not Christian, there is no conservative Christ, and he was a flaming liberal making the late Paul Wellstone look like a conservative.
Pat is dangerous, because he lies and preaches fear and hate, disguised as love?????
Free speech has it good and bad parts and Pat Robertson is the bad part, preaching all about hate and the same Christian God that Hitler worshipped and Pat is a bad soul, mentally challenged and willing to scream fire at the top of his lungs in a crowded auditorium and then blame GOD’s wrath, or the innocent’s people ancestry for their demise.
People like Pat are greedy, mean spirited and definitely will never meet any God nor the one they called the Christ. But he will spend eternity with fellow republican conservatives!
Posted by: nacirema | January 14, 2010 1:51 PM
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The Christian response is supposed to be to comfort the sorrowful---one of the spiritual works of mercy. Instead, Pat Robertson kicks them when they are down. His words are satanic.
Posted by: Matthew_DC | January 14, 2010 1:52 PM
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Being Pat Robertson is an integral part of the right wing of religion in America . . his absurd remark about the Haitian earthquake being the wrath of God, due to a moment in history when the inhabitants make a 'pact with the devil', is not unbelievable, for this is what Robertson and many of his cohorts believe that this is what God is all about! Robertson and his right-wing nuts, Palin, Huckabee, Peter Marshall, are the epitome of this kind of looney rationale.
Stephen
Posted by: theevanshouse | January 14, 2010 1:54 PM
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If there really is a devil is it possibly correct that the devil did it.
Posted by: Emmetrope | January 14, 2010 1:55 PM
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Dear Pat,
Remember when I said "Love your neighbor"?
I meant that.
- God
Posted by: arminius3142 | January 14, 2010 1:55 PM
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Revelations 3:9:
"I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you."
Mr. Robertson, this passage seems to be referring to you and all others who seek to use Faith and lies as a tool of power over the unfortunate.
I believe you sir are the one who has a pact with the Devil.
Posted by: hakafos44 | January 14, 2010 1:56 PM
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...PAT, BE SURE TO HAVE MONSANTO DROP A PILE OF ESPECIALLY CANCEROUS GMO CORN ON THEIR BLACK A**ES, FASH WANNA-BE COWBOY IN CHARGE CULLING THE HUMAN HERD OF UNDESIRABLES, THE JESUS-HIPPIE GOD LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE TERROR-POKE COWBOY, 'CEPT WITH A GYRENE HAIR-CUT DEATH TRANCE STARE SO ESSENTIAL TO KILL IN THE NAME OF THE JESUS-HIPPIE THE ENEMIES OF MONSANTO, DUPONT, EXXON AND THE CARLYLE GROUP, BLOODTHIRSTY IS NORMAL, TERROR IS ORDER, TERROR-POKE COWBOY WON'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY, THE NEWSPEAK RELIGION, THE NEWSPEAK NEWS, THIS DEMANDS A CONSTANCE SET OUT BY THE MINISTRY OF FACTS, CNN/CENTRAL NEWS NAZI, THE LOCAL MOSSAD FUSION CENTER ..ITS MORE DREAD A FEELING, WHEN I HEAR THAT OLD SONG,( PARDON MY BRAIN SURGERY, COUNCIL), SHUFFLE RAPIDLY THE STINKING ARSENAL ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE ROOM.."HEY, THESE HYPERBARIC NUKES WORK PRETTY GOOD, WRATHCHILD, BABY, LET'S SCULPT THIS ROCK"..
Posted by: frak | January 14, 2010 1:56 PM
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If God exists and has wraths this could be one, right?
Posted by: Emmetrope | January 14, 2010 1:57 PM
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Why are you guys so upset?
This is the god that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and carried out genocide in Egypt. He also had his son tortured and killed so that he can be nice to ppl.
Posted by: akula | January 14, 2010 2:01 PM
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This is from the same nut that claimed to have prayed a hurricane away from the North Carolina coast then denied that he had said that when he tried to run for the Presidency. His problem was that it was on TV tape and of course was ran time and again to show that he had said exactly what he denied. A true evangelistic preacher that is a liar? Is that an oxymoron.
Posted by: jslivesay | January 14, 2010 2:01 PM
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... Robertson can be forgiven easily ... perhaps his "old-timers" is acting up ... but Limbaugh is a racid gas-bag ... I guess you have to really hate yourself and life in general to listen to him on a daily basis ... pray for those who do ... and for those suffering in Haiti ...
Posted by: derekrobbins | January 14, 2010 2:02 PM
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... Robertson can be forgiven easily ... perhaps his "old-timers" is acting up ... but Limbaugh is a rancid gas-bag ... I guess you have to really hate yourself and life in general to listen to him on a daily basis ... pray for those who do ... and for those suffering in Haiti ...
Posted by: derekrobbins | January 14, 2010 2:04 PM
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Attributing a natural disaster, and the tragedy it causes, to the morality of mankind is absurd to the n-th degree. Of course, there's plenty of people out there who think pro wrestling is real, too. This is the same kind of cruel, ruthless ploy used for centuries by men in high religious positions to help keep the uneducated masses "beneath" them locked in place. Hey Pat, if this kind of power display from a supreme being was really operative in this world, your lame, charlatan a$$ would have been "smote" down a long time ago!
Posted by: clfrdj | January 14, 2010 2:05 PM
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Haiti's only curse is an overabundance of ignorant Negroes and corrupt HNICs.
On the other hand, maybe God called some of his flock home.
Posted by: TooManyPeople | January 14, 2010 2:08 PM
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Is Pat Robertson a sociopath or is he a psychopath ... I suppose he could be both.
Then again, maybe this is the inevitable result of a life spent in unquestioning blind faith on one of the truly primitive and barbaric gods infesting our species today.
Imagine Pat having won the republican nomination in 1988 ... he did win the Iowa primaries if you remember. Would humanity exist today, would we have survived a presidency with his bible thumping finger on the button?
Would you have voted for him because he said he was a christian then, without asking yourself if he was insane?
Pat would be nowhere without the idiots who believe in both his religion and in him. Think about that once in a while.
Posted by: khote14 | January 14, 2010 2:09 PM
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It's been clear for a long time that the so-called "reverend" is out of his mind. Yet millions follow him without question, feeding off his irrational rants. That is the scary part.
Posted by: adrienne_najjar | January 14, 2010 2:09 PM
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The Devil shows himself in familiar forms. The most effective way for the Fallen One to influence the weak (his favorite target) is to pose as a man of God. Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing. Beware the flamboyant messenger. God's word is simple. The truth needs neither explanaition nor embelishment.
Posted by: KJR1 | January 14, 2010 2:11 PM
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Jesus calls ALL Christians to show compassion and love to all of those who may or not be Christians and also to those who are Non-Believers, or Agnostic during times of calamity, hardship, death, pain, and suffering.
Fundamental Christianity does not seem to live by the word of God, or live by the teachings of Jesus Christ. One of the things that Jesus pointed out throughout the New Testament book of the Bible was the ability of those seeking a Christian life to be aware of False teachers and to also use discernment in understanding who is a False Teacher.
As far as I am concerned, it is people like Pat Robertson and the Fundamental Church that gives Christianity a bad name, by exploiting and taking advantage of those whom may not be mature in their Christian teachings.
Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 14, 2010 2:13 PM
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Just as some Muslims give Islam a bad name so does Pat Robertson's outrageous comments give Christianity a bad name. Someone ought to muzzle that man.
Posted by: kimL1 | January 14, 2010 2:14 PM
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Although I have little sympathy for a country (Haiti) that has been on an over 200 year path to self destruction Pat, your comments are completely looney. I mean category 5 nut case stuff.
You and your ilk are the reason that so many have turned away from Christianity. You just make S*&T up and then expect the sheep to eat it up. Why can't you take the millions you've received from the trailer park dwellers and just move to Alaska?
Posted by: wdalton1us | January 14, 2010 2:14 PM
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Pat Robertson reflects the views of many Christians which is why I am glad I am an atheist. I used to give to CitiTeam Ministries but stopped last year because Robertson was affiliated with them.
Posted by: thomgr | January 14, 2010 2:15 PM
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This is nothing new. These right wingers are scum of human beings..They are parasites sucking life and blood from humanity.
Posted by: kevin1231 | January 14, 2010 2:16 PM
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Pat Robertson, just what christianity needs - one more good reason to turn to atheism!
Posted by: edfred2 | January 14, 2010 2:16 PM
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The Haitian Ambassador to the US made a good point on the Rachel Maddow show last night. Without the Haitian Rebellion in the late 1700's, the US wouldn't have the entire midsection of the country. The French sold their territories to us in the Louisiana Purchase so that they could move their troops into Haiti. Not to mention that it financed Napoleon's conquest of Europe. So, if Pat Robert-scum is claiming that Haiti made a "pact with the Devil", then the indirect beneficiary of that pact was the U.S.
What actually happened, as a previous poster said, was that the slaves appealed to the Loa (spirits), which are the equivalent of the Catholic Saints. Voodoo is a syncretism of Catholicism and the West African Yoruba faith, not Satan worship.
Posted by: Athena4 | January 14, 2010 2:19 PM
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Let's pray that Pat Robertson can turn his life around.
Posted by: Riograd | January 14, 2010 2:20 PM
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fr am19199:
>...Throughout history there have been earthquakes, violent storms systems, Tornado and Hurricane most notable Katrina. But I don’t recall him speaking out like them.
robber$on blamed Hurricane Katrina on glbt's in New Orleans. He's a total nutball.
Posted by: Alex511 | January 14, 2010 2:20 PM
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Fallwell/Robertson and the like are remnants of the dark ages. Education and science will be the end of the 'talking snake' belief system some hold dear. Man has been writing of our experiences for thousands of years, some things we learn, others we seem to never learn. Man created god and satan to blame our good and bad decisions and outcomes on. The earth will continue to change and go through it's cycles, humans or not. Can't wait for these evangelists to 'go out of business'!
Posted by: rglines | January 14, 2010 2:21 PM
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Pat Robertson founded a college & a law school, if you can call either that.A lot of the Bush Adm. lawyers came from this nut-case factory. LOOK IT UP. It can be found in Martidale-Hubbell law directory. And Americans wonder why the world looks with amazement at us.The only thing wrong in this country is the unbridled FREEDOM of every nut in the entire 300 million to talk this C R A P & have it published. But, do not dispair, this nutcase will expire just like all the rest, & hopefully he'll get his just reward.
Posted by: tlrasnic | January 14, 2010 2:22 PM
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God save us (and the world, especially Haiti) from this religious madman! "Dr." indeed - Dr. of ignorance and stupidity - but certainly not compassion.
The man is EVIL!
Posted by: lufrank1 | January 14, 2010 2:28 PM
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He is the antichrist whatever that means. Thsi is a generation that grew up on the Omen and the Exorcist, frightened at a early age. They are a cult.
Posted by: anti1 | January 14, 2010 2:28 PM
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Not that I'm without sin and even though I don't believe in any of the ever so poorly documented purported divinities, since the first stone has already been cast, under Robertson's Rules, I feel free to add mine. Short of wishing Rev. Pat earthly ill, I pray [sic] his version of the afterlife has enough validity that he can enjoy the hell he works so tirelessly to deserve.
Posted by: tcement | January 14, 2010 2:30 PM
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I am not sure who is more pathetic - Pat Robertson and his lack of tact, or the responders on this blog.
"On Faith" immediately (and deviously) throws out some juicy red meat from Robertson, the lefties on this blog reflexively start barking and baying like dogs. Robertson quotes the Bible, and people on this blog, in reply, offer quotes from such fonts of wisdom as "South Park" and "Star Wars." I would like to stop visiting "On Faith" but I can't look away - its like a car crash and professional wrestling rolled into one.
Posted by: pgr88 | January 14, 2010 2:30 PM
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Who's to say Robertson isn't correct?
There is an awful lot of devilment in Haiti--thugs, barbarianism, incest, cruelty, lack of direction and planning.
Posted by: IIntgrty | January 14, 2010 2:34 PM
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The only God Robertson really recognizes is the $$$
Posted by: tom_walker | January 14, 2010 2:34 PM
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Pat Robertson is pure, unadulterated evil. I place him on the same level as Islamo-Facsists. I truly don't see the difference.
Posted by: Sonny53 | January 14, 2010 2:37 PM
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"wrath of god" messenger pat robertson has more divine insight than the toadying sycophants of secular psychiatry, intelligence, public affairs, law enforcement, social work, international finance, and democracy.
haiti is cursed by racist voodoo witch doctor madness, corrupt bureaucracy, and the infamous spirit of the maroon "6 years 6000 white french settlers killed" François Mackandal.
vive le terror, earth quake, hurricane, tsunammi, et vengence is mine saith the lord
Posted by: therapy | January 14, 2010 2:38 PM
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True story? Our country has been hit by earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, snow blizzards, mudslides, tornados, droughts and volcanic eruptions, but no one would seriously argue that Haiti must be more virtuous because it doesn’t get snow blizzards.
What was his source -- the French who lost? If so, it sounds like a sour grapes comment you would expect from losers who would complain that this group of inferior people could not defeat us without external help. I'm sure that there were a few French people who described the leader of the slave revolt, Toussaint L’Overture, as the devil incarnate, just like some slave owners in this country may have described leaders of slave revolts like Nat Turner as being devils and just like the Confederacy thought of President Lincoln as the devil. So I guess it depends upon what your point of view is.
From my point of view I wouldn’t have a problem with him saying that Al Qaeda made a pact with the devil and that Osama Bin Laden is the anti-Christ. However, from Osama Bin Laden’s point of view anyone who opposes him is the devil.
Enemies tend to demonize their opponents. But we’re not even at war with Haiti, they haven’t committed any terrorist acts against us on U.S. soil and the Haitians I’ve met have been devout Christians. So why not just dispense with the venom, collect the money, buy supplies and send as much help as possible to people who need it, without condemnation, because to paraphrase Matthew 5:45 God causes the sun to shine on the good and the bad and makes it rain on both.
Posted by: aaron20 | January 14, 2010 2:38 PM
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That this man proclaims himself to be a man of God is appalling. Every American citizen who agrees with Pat Robertson should absolutely be ashamed of his or herself.
Posted by: brian71490 | January 14, 2010 2:40 PM
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In 1944, a hurricane hit Va. beach. I guess that's when all those gay people were living there.
Instead of praying for those suffering in Haiti, Robertson demeans them in their time of great need. What a good samaritan.
Posted by: janeway1 | January 14, 2010 2:40 PM
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Who's to say Robertson isn't correct?
There is an awful lot of devilment in Haiti--thugs, barbarianism, incest, cruelty, lack of direction and planning.
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Phewww! I am soooo glad I live in America where we don't have to deal with any of those things.
Posted by: forgetthis | January 14, 2010 2:43 PM
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Perhaps Va Gov. Bob McDonnell can interpret Pat Robertson's rantings for us?
Posted by: free-donny | January 14, 2010 2:43 PM
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Idiot.
Posted by: Charles_Day@comcast.net | January 14, 2010 2:44 PM
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A deal with the devil? So the Haitian made a political move with their subjugators (nearly 300 years ago!) in hopes of having greater control of their own destiny. What is so Devilish about that? Sure, not much has come from it, but that should be attributed to the French and to the Haitians for not making good on the deal. This pablum about God's will being imposed upon us in the form of disaster is just modern fable telling (the same tool used since the day of Charlemange during Christianinty's infancy). It's easy for lazy Christians to attribute disaster as God's will and to blame the recipients as deserving of their fate. The lesson in Haiti is not that Haiti made a mistake 300 years ago. The lesson is that those of us with the means to help avoid (or mitigate) these disasters have forgoten the teachings of out faiths and neglected these people. Now we have been given a chance to redeem ourselves through aid and future assistance. God didn't create the disaster... He ceated the oportunity for us to do good works.
Posted by: KJR1 | January 14, 2010 2:48 PM
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Port a Prince is built over a fault line. Natural disasters are explainable natural phenomena. Now, if the city was covered by a glacier in a moment, that might have to be explained as God's miraculous intervention. The great number of deaths can be attributed to the substandard housing in Haiti. The origins of the grinding poverty of that country can be traced back through its history and is the result of the actions of men. There is nothing associated with this terrible tragedy that requires a fairy tale for an explanation. Robertson's statement reveals nothing new about him either; it has been known for some time that he is a craven opportunist selling superstitious notions to the gullible. His ignorance of Christian principles is shown by his advancing the idea that the God of the new covenant judges and punishes nations; since Christ’s resurrection, all men have been held responsible for their individual conduct and judged accordingly, regardless of their country of origin. The notion that God favors a whole nation is very Old Testament. According to scripture, the only nation He favored was Israel, and by its repudiation of Christ as Messiah, it lost that recognition.
Posted by: csintala79 | January 14, 2010 2:51 PM
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I have this nagging suspicion that Pat was there when this deal with the devil was signed, and his was one of the signatures on the document.
Posted by: sheehanjc | January 14, 2010 2:52 PM
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Why is it so hard to believe that GOD didn't have something to do with this. All you people sit back and judge. Do you ever ask yourself WHY THIS IS HAPPENING? Blame the weather??? Blame GLOBAL WARMING?? Blame BUSH??? But do you ever wonder why is there so much destruction going on in this world, BOTH here in the UNITED STATES and in other countries. It really P!$$E$ me off when all you libs, get angry and call people names for saying what they BELIEVE. Maybe GOD is trying to tell US SOMETHING. These people live in horrific conditions, yet I noticed that the PRESIDENTIAL PALACE was just that A PALACE. People living in squaller, hungry, dirty yet the PRESIDENT LIVES IN A PALACE. Why is that OK??? Maybe GOD doesn't like all the VOODOO, and false praise. MAUYBE this is GOD'S way of cleansing this country, maybe now it can rebels a better country for everyone. DON'T LAUGH AT GOD, he is mightier then you think, JUST LOOK AROUND YOU!!!
Posted by: itscc721 | January 14, 2010 2:52 PM
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Just so people don't forget...Eve was thrown out of the Garden of Eden for eating an apple from the Tree of Knowledge. Knowledge is not a sin in my mind any more than wanting to be free from tyranny and slavery is a sin.
Posted by: keithrjackson | January 14, 2010 2:54 PM
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Pat Robertson says he does the Lord's work. That he is a man of God.
That's NOT my God. Must be that God in his alternate parallel universe. Probably need a Black Hole to transport there?!
Perhaps Mr. Robertson could move to Calif. I have it on good word that the BIG one is due VERY soon in S.F. or L.A.
Posted by: Bigrcube | January 14, 2010 2:54 PM
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To ITSCC721: HAHAHAHA Time to take your meds!
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 2:54 PM
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Individuals who do not believe the Bible or the existence of a Higher Power or God, generally do not agree that certain curses on mankind are the direct results of idolatry, and in this case the main religion Voodoo, a.k.a devil worship. Such a connection is however clearly spelled out in the Bible. There may be some truth to Robertson's assertions, but that does not negate the tremendous need for assistance to the Haitian people. Scores of Christian organizations are helping, as well as Robertson's own organization: Operation Blessing.
Posted by: Tommypie | January 14, 2010 2:56 PM
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ITSCC721 -- No one is laughing at God. We're laughing at a false prophet who profits in the name of God.
Posted by: sheehanjc | January 14, 2010 2:56 PM
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I am astonished that anyone expected anything better from robertson. That would be like expecting better from that idiot limbaugh.
Posted by: davidsawh | January 14, 2010 2:56 PM
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RE: Haiti, the Devil and Pat Robertson.
Don't forget to include:
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Don Imus
Ann Coulter
Laura Ingraham
Monica Crowley
Bill O'Reilly
Glenn Beck
Mark Levin
Dick Cheney
Liz Cheney
FOX News
Posted by: Bigrcube | January 14, 2010 2:57 PM
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It's clear no one bothered to look further for the full context of Robertson's statement before barking and salivating like Pavlov's dogs. ON FAITH is often very political, devious and devisive in that way.
Maybe you would want to see the next paragraph where Robinson urges all Christians to do everything they can to help the people of Haiti, and pray for them and some good to come from this tragedy.
Posted by: pgr88 | January 14, 2010 2:57 PM
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Your article incorrectly presented Robertson's comments. He gave the history and then moved to a hope for spiritual change across that nation. You have stirred up controversy by presenting a half-truth. Standing alone, that becomes a lie which discredits the reputation of the newspaper. The question then is "Why?"
Posted by: ValCol | January 14, 2010 2:57 PM
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they should keep him locked up and keep the camera and microphone out of the drunks hand
Posted by: lucygirl1 | January 14, 2010 2:58 PM
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Mr. R. seems to have a close personal relationship with the devil. He seems to talk to the devil a lot but how does he know when the devil is telling the truth? Funny, I can go for months, years even, not ever once thinking about the devil until Mr. R. pops up like a pimple with another one of his devil connections. Why does he spend so much time with him?
Posted by: lsmith4 | January 14, 2010 2:59 PM
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Pat Robertson only proves that all manipulative, truth-bending psychopaths are not in prison.
The very clever are often successful business types like himself - selling what sells to the unsuspecting and in his case, the product is fundamentalism of the worst kind.
He's really no different in spirit than Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter, peddling hate and bottom-feeding in their chosen public venues - they are three peas in a very rancid pod, if you ask me. Clearly they have plenty of fans, because the money keeps on rolling in.
You just can't escape the creeping sludge exuding from Robertson and his ilk - it's everywhere. Birds of a feather....
Posted by: persiflage | January 14, 2010 3:01 PM
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I just bought Darksiders. A game, in which, you play as War -- one of the Four Horsemen of The Apocalypse.
You are charged, unjustly, with starting the Apoclaypse early, and as punishment are stripped of your powers and sent back to earth to fight the armies of Heaven and hordes of Hell while they wage war. Your task is to find, punish, and destroy those who are truly responsible for bringing the Armageddon.
...I hope Pat Robertson is the final boss.
Posted by: Raxion | January 14, 2010 3:04 PM
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The boy's an idiot. Simply an idiot.
Posted by: therev1 | January 14, 2010 3:05 PM
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Before I am attacked, let me preface this by saying Pat Robertson is a loon and an insensitive fool with his comments while people are laying under rubble and having their limbs amputated in Haiti.
In his defense he is raising money for a relief effort which is more than most posting on this board have done today.
He has a bizarre way of looking at history but again in his defense one need only read and do a little research on "Papa Doc" and "Baby Doc" Duvalier to see where he is coming from. His comments are deliberately provocative and always, as today get a huge amount of negative attention from the mainstream.
He tells his viewers the country is under the influence of satan and voodoo and needs their Divine intervention and the cash ROLLS in. After all this wasn't on Good Morning America, it was the 700 Club.
The guy never disappoints the media.
Posted by: menopausequeen | January 14, 2010 3:05 PM
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itscc721 wrote....
Why is it so hard to believe that GOD didn't have something to do with this. All you people sit back and judge. Do you ever ask yourself WHY THIS IS HAPPENING? Blame the weather??? Blame GLOBAL WARMING?? Blame BUSH???
Well itscc721, according to the Law of Moses...
"Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sins." 2 Kings 14:5-7
Pat doesn't even know his own Bible. Unles, of course, his "Bible" resides at the accountant's office and mostly quotes the denomination of dead Presidents. It seems that you are blaming God for this act as a way of somehow "punishing" Haiti....
I haven't seen anyone blame Bush or Global Warming...Why did God wait 300 years to punish Haiti for its "pact" with the Devil? Does your God have Attention Deficit Disorder in addition to being capricious and viscious?
Pat Robertson is just a money grubbing huckster. His "word of knowledge" routine has probably caused people to avoid medical treatment and become disabled or die. I'm sick of Robertson and his ilk pimpin' Jesus.
Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 14, 2010 3:05 PM
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His "update" is a lie, he said exactly what it sounds like he said, and it's appalling and shameful. There was no talk of "history" only "this is a true story". If only the gullible people he cons would rise up and renounce this poor excuse of a human. Sadly, they believe him.
Posted by: momj47 | January 14, 2010 3:08 PM
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As a retired pastor and educational administrator I take strong exception to the comments of Pat Robertson. Men, women, boys, girls, babies, Americans, Christians, care givers, Christian agency personnel who have traveled for years to Haiti to help were also killed.
Mr. Robertson, whom do your represent? A loving caring God who gives life or yourself as an ego centric exhibitionist who needs strong Biblical and ethical correction? You are wrong in making that type of a statement just to attract attention to self. When you make outlandish statements that alienate people from the church and Christ's words you to do a great disservice to the cause you falsely claim to advocate. Why not sell all you have and give it to the poor? That’s not my admonition those are Christ’s words.
You would be well served to apologize to those trying to help Haiti for you words! My hope is that the elders of the church would give you the strictest sanction of discipline possible. They probably won't but I am personally disappointed in your pathetic history lesson for the suffering people of Haiti. They are not cursed by God for some supposed action they had no part in.
Dr. Alan Phillips, Sr.
Bloomington, IL
Posted by: ctw46 | January 14, 2010 3:09 PM
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Marion Robertson is a nut.
Posted by: mitlen | January 14, 2010 3:09 PM
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There is no question Pat Robertson is a hateful, despicable man. I got that. What I am waiting for is somebody to explain how he is any different than the President's friend Reverend Wright, and how come it is ok for Obama to have sat in the pews at Wright's church for over twenty years, while the Virginia Gov is guilty by association.
Pat Roberstso is not reflective of the beleifs of most Christians. He represents a minority.
Please, will somebody who easily dismissed Obama's relationship with Wright explain, using the typical liberal effeminate self-righteous smugness why they are willing to associate every member of the GOP and every Christian with Pat Robertson? Please!
Posted by: hsroth1 | January 14, 2010 3:10 PM
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Earthquakes happen because of the shifting of tectonic plates along faults, not the wrath of God.
Posted by: lepidopteryx | January 14, 2010 3:10 PM
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Pat Robertson, is a mean-spirited old hypocrite who is delusional if he thinks he is following Jesus's teachings. One day God is going to judge him for all of the mean-spirited and hateful things he has said and done.
Posted by: pAULA_cOPELAND | January 14, 2010 3:10 PM
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It is beyond my comprehension that anybody who can read and write defends the emanations of this preposterous genocidal criminal. To imagine that monster being taken seriously by a lot of Americans gives a depressing feeling for the future of this world.
It is a painful fact that such an excuse for a human being has any bearing on the education of young Americans, guaranteeing the continuation of the poisoning of the American mind.
He is the mirror image of religionists like bin Laden, and I even think he is worse; his deadly influence surpasses that of bin Laden, as can be shown by the fact that he is "seriously" discussed.
Posted by: frederic2 | January 14, 2010 3:11 PM
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"Then the King [God] will say ... I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'"
This is the God I serve and the Jesus I follow and the Bible I read. Judgment belongs to God, not to man.
Posted by: gitouttahere | January 14, 2010 3:13 PM
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This is fundamentally a case of bad journalistic coverage. Robertson is insane. Why give him coverage? Would you do that to a killer or sex offender just out of prison who wanted to proclaim his madness in print? Of course not.
Collaboration with evil, as we learned from Germany in the 30's, is just that sneakily simple. All Evangelical Protestants in America should be categorized as Cults and be held accountable for hate crimes any time they open their mouths. Jesus would wish it so.
Posted by: walden1 | January 14, 2010 3:13 PM
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While I do not agree with Pat Robertson and never have, I believe in some way he is right. He is not right about the things that he says (or has said), but his over-the-top statements serve his purpose. Just look at the number of responses to this article, what he has done is to bring greater publicity to himself and is his cause and because of this I am saddened. My response just continues this awful reinforcement of American media where "shock jocks" and outlandish statements/actions gain publicity over true news.
Posted by: hallgb3 | January 14, 2010 3:13 PM
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You see an pattern of ignorance here?
"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed.'
--Ann Coulter
We should just turn the sheriff loose and have him arrest every Muslim that crosses the state line."
--U.S. Rep. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), Valdosta Daily Times, 11/20/01
What Christians have got to do is take back this country, one precinct at a time, one neighborhood at a time, and one state at a time... I honestly believe that in my lifetime we will see a country once again governed by Christians..."
--Religious News Service, 5/1/1990
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
--George Bush Sr. to a reporter August 27, 1988, while serving as vice-president and running for President
The most humble Christian is more qualified for office than the best-educated pagan. We built quite a little grass-roots machine out there [in San Diego]. Now it's my burden to multiply that success all across America."
--Gary Cass, executive director of Reclaiming America, talking about Christians taking over school boards
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 3:17 PM
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The difference between Christian fundamentalist and muslim fundamentalists are many, BTW. At the core, Christian fundamentalists do not believe, as dogma, in taking innocent lives to further a political end.
Posted by: hsroth1 | January 14, 2010 3:18 PM
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Just how do you "make a deal" with the devil anyway?
I would love to make a deal to have these grandstanding blathering buffoons like Robertson shipped off the China or wherever...
Posted by: 8-man | January 14, 2010 3:21 PM
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Something happened a long time ago in Pat Robertson’s brain and people might not want to talk about. He was under the heel of his own delusions of grandeur, you know narcissistic personality disorder and whatever. And he swore a pact to the devil. He said 'I will serve you if by spewing vitriol and fomenting intolerance if you will pay me a lot of money.' True story. And so the devil said, 'Ok it's a deal.' And Pat Robertson made a bundle of money. And ever since then we have been cursed by one thing after another that comes out of his mouth.
Posted by: dreamon2 | January 14, 2010 3:21 PM
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I've been an atheist for decades. But, if I were a Christian, the putrid words of this 'christian leader' would lead me to renounce my faith once more.
Where were his minders while he was spewing off so?
Posted by: cfr666 | January 14, 2010 3:22 PM
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People should call on other fundamentalist "Christian" leaders to denounce this man's statements. They are utterly despicable, and completely heretical in fact, as they run counter to everything Jesus taught.
Posted by: B2O2 | January 14, 2010 3:23 PM
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I think it is time to ignore him.
Posted by: sabrina1 | January 14, 2010 3:26 PM
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Is Robertson suffering from dementia? Of course I was appalled by Papa Doc, Baby Doc and all the serial non-docs since. But the pitiful population of Haiti somehow "deserves" this natural disaster? New Orleans "deserved" Katrina? Galveston "deserved" Ike? The mid-West "deserves" blizzards in which lots of people freeze to death?
Robertson's god and mine must not be on speaking terms.
Posted by: mftill | January 14, 2010 3:26 PM
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It's a shame that the media gobbles up statements like this made by Pat Robertson, which feeds into popular misconceptions about Christians. The majority of Evangelical and other Christians do not harbor thoughts like this. Why doesn't the press give any attention to all of the humanitarian work that other Christians are doing, by groups such as World Vision, Compassion International, and Samaritan's Purse, who have already mobilized thousands of workers and poured millions of dollars into helping the Haitians?
It is media attention to statements like this that feeds the growing polarization of our country into a false dichotomy between the left and the right, religious and non-religious. As a Christian, I can now see how the majority of peace-loving Muslims must feel when the media portrays Muslims as terrorists. At least the Post added an update in a later version of this article giving Robertson's group the opportunity to share its side of the story. It is grossly unfair for Mr. Waters and the media to isolate a single quote from someone and paint such a broadly negative view. In my view, the media doesn't just report on the "culture wars." It intentionally fuels it for the purpose of generating controversy readership.
Posted by: ki-liu | January 14, 2010 3:27 PM
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Last night while flipping the channels I saw a woman asking Robertson questions from viewers on the 700 club. The question was something to the effect: "I have a ringing in my ears that will not go away, what is that?". Robertson responded "Tinactin". In case you did not know, Tinactin is a jock-itch cream.
The man is a no-nothing but evidently good for a laugh in between incredible insults.
Posted by: Fate1 | January 14, 2010 3:28 PM
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IIntgrty --
Unfortunately, you can find plenty of that here, too -- or practically anywhere else in the world for that matter. You sound as totally jacked up as the Wrong Reverend Robertson.
Posted by: Tootsumi | January 14, 2010 3:29 PM
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fr bigrcube:
>...Perhaps Mr. Robertson could move to Calif. I have it on good word that the BIG one is due VERY soon in S.F. or L.A.
Oh, please don't send him here. We've enough to deal with with ahnuld playing der governator. Send robber$on to Alaska, where he can "pal around" with nutballs like palin.
Posted by: Alex511 | January 14, 2010 3:31 PM
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The Reverend Pat Stupidson never misses a chance to reconfirm his position as America's Crackpot in Chief.
Posted by: Larryman | January 14, 2010 3:32 PM
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The article quoted an alleged Christian as saying: "If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson's compassion for the people of Haiti is clear."
"Clear" as in "empty" as in "obviously equal to ZERO."
Anyone who ever believes anything emanating from the pie hole of this Christian charlatan should have their head examined.
Posted by: JC505 | January 14, 2010 3:35 PM
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Let's not forget that Pat Robertson also was a close business partner of mass murder of Liberia, Charles Taylor. Pat was in business with this killer for diamonds. Amazing how one of the chaplains of the Grand nO Tea Party aka the Grand Obstructionist Party toes the white supremacist party line. I bet he has his teabagger uniform in his chapel. What a sick mind that calls himself an evangelist. But then he is just following the Fallwell and his ilk down the path of demagoguery.
Posted by: numbers28 | January 14, 2010 3:36 PM
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What God is Pat following? He himself looks like the Devil - pointy ears, squinty eyes, an evil toothy smile and an overall devilish look. CBN is now reporting that Pat Robertson was actually ejected from the wrong end of his mother's body and not the usual way. That explains his comments, rants and general lunacy in the name of an non-existent entity called the Devil.
Posted by: Nparry | January 14, 2010 3:37 PM
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The Reverend is sick
He is blaming the victims...unexcusable.
Posted by: wrock76taolcom | January 14, 2010 3:38 PM
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Pat Robertson started Christian Broadcasting Network University, which changed its name to Regent University, which is Alma Mater of the new governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia. Rejoice. And thank you so much to the clueless who voted for Governor McDonnell.
Posted by: HookedOnThePost | January 14, 2010 3:39 PM
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hsroth1: "At the core, Christian fundamentalists do not believe, as dogma, in taking innocent lives to further a political end."
But evidently do believe that a deity would inflict harm on innocent lives to settle a (even fictitious) theological score. Or how else do they explain why those who already suffer most get hit again? It's a question that just about any religion answers rather poorly. "S happens" doesn't offer much solace. Robinson, like so many of his brethren, ask not what to do for the afflicted, but only whether the sin was of the victim or the his father. Were he to release his entire treasure to charity, save perhaps a modest pension, wouldn't that be the Gospel thing to do? But, to squander it on "those people." Oh no. Brother Pat ain't ready for that. Mamon still rules, and that stuff about fitting a camel through the eye of a needle is mainly a slogan to raise $ for Robinson Inc. Even followers who distance themselves (reverently) from Pat's "outspokenness" will stay in line and not rock the 700 Club boat.
Posted by: jkoch2 | January 14, 2010 3:43 PM
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Idiotic quotes from a crackpot are nothing new.
The fact that people listen to a crackpot is nothing new.
But the sad part is, when it comes to a politician seeking the Republican nomination for President, that this guy is pretty much a kingmaker. Every right-wing politico that wants to sit in the big seat has to come through him. That's pretty sad....
Posted by: robrice311 | January 14, 2010 3:43 PM
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Maybe Palin should send Thomas Muthee to Haiti - - you know - - the Kenyan witch doctor who "blessed her" so she could become governor? She believes with all her heart - bless her soul - that it worked for her!
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 3:45 PM
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Many people representing or claiming to represent the Lord God may say problems encountered by people either individuals, groups or nations are due to spiritual alignment. This may be true to a greater or lesser extent, but this does not mean that a committed, devoted and lets say, less sinning than others for the most part type of person, will never encounter problems in his or her life. The difference is that faith and the help of the Holy Spirit will help this person through their troubles. At the same time those who give little thought to God, or who don't care a bit, or even those who oppose Him and practise any type of alternative religion are not necessarily always punished, in this life anyway. God has more patience than we do and wishes us all to come to repententance. Each one of us should be aware of this, and thankful. Imagine how each one of us would fare if God afflicted or struck down every sinner whenever they sinned, whether they were aware they were doing wrong or not. He gives most of us a lifetime of chances along with notices, and warnings. Then one day we die, and face judgement. For those who have chosen Christ as their saviour even though their lives were never perfect they are saved from any further trouble for all eternity. Having these thoughts in mind what does one do. Can one continue indefinitely to expect favor from the Almighty Father if one is paying no heed to His Word? Can His servants claim to be serving Him if they are doing things in His Holy Name, their way and not His way?
Posted by: DavidFalconer | January 14, 2010 3:47 PM
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Pat Roberston is a smart con-man with a lot of idiot followers who are looking for the magic prayer (or magic donation) that will fix their lives with little or no effort at acting like Jesus. He is no different from the indulgence sellers of the early Catholic church.
Posted by: HookedOnThePost | January 14, 2010 3:48 PM
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Perhaps Limbaugh would be more sympathetic if the the tragedy had occurred in his vacation spot, the Dominican Republic, home of little boy sex tourism.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 14, 2010 3:51 PM
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To DavidFalconer: The following sounds as reasonable as what you wrote...
Armaments, Chapter Two, verses Nine to Twenty-one: And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying,'O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou mayest blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it. Amen.
Posted by: ANTGA | January 14, 2010 3:51 PM
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Robertson and his followers are identical in spirit and cultural development to the primitive island dwellers who swear that the volcano went off because "God" didn't like something they did.
Sigmund Freud's theories on how and why religion developed - fear of angry father, transferred to a transcendent and immortal Father to protect for posterity - get more and more compelling by the year.
Our society will never truly move forward until it leaves this delusional phase of development behind.
Posted by: B2O2 | January 14, 2010 3:51 PM
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=GOD ISNT REAL= :D
Want to learn about earthquakes or why the world works the way it does? Go take an effing earth-science or physics class for Christ's sake (Jesus probably was a real guy).
The Bible should only exist now as a moral guide for humanity. Humans are a curious species and NEED to understand everything around them. Religion filled the gaps and answered the unknown questions before people became INTELLIGENT enough to accurately answer those questions with science.
I was raised Baptist and was a devout Christian for many years until proper logic, reasoning, and an understanding of the ignorant masses of extremist Christians like Pat Robertson made me renounce my faith.
Aside from some differences in morality, the TRUTH about religion, Christianity, and God are about as accurate and real as the voodoo that some Haitians practice.
Posted by: Raxion | January 14, 2010 3:52 PM
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I wonder how many of the posters watched the video of PR's statements before posting? Or did they just read what was written above, which is not in its complete context?
I'm no fan of PR, but the tenor of what is being posted here makes right and left alike look like whack jobs. Barely a reasoned or nuanced post to be found.
Posted by: RogerGoldleader | January 14, 2010 3:52 PM
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Robertson is living proof that there is no god. If there were then this supposedly all powerful, all loving being would never allow someone as depraved at Robertson to speak on its behalf.
Posted by: rasterfreeart | January 14, 2010 3:55 PM
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Robertson is perfect! This type of pronouncement just rubs it in how absurd religion is and says a lot about its adherents. "Pact with the devil," how incredibly Middle Ages. But that's where the religious fanatics live, Moslems and Christians alike.
Posted by: RichardHode | January 14, 2010 4:03 PM
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"Just how do you "make a deal" with the devil anyway?"
You go down to the crossroads and call Him, just like Robert Johnson did. :D
Seriously, if God was "punishing" Haiti for a supposed "pact with the Devil", why did the Archbishop of Port-au-Prince get killed in the quake, why did the cathedral collapse, and why are so many Christian missionaries missing or dead? You would think that God would protect His own.
Don't blame God, the Devil, or the Haitians. Blame plate tectonics. Of course, some people probably think that plate tectonics is "just a theory" like evolution.
Posted by: Athena4 | January 14, 2010 4:05 PM
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You people are unbelievable. Did any of you actually watch the video or read the transcript?
First of all, Robertson called the disaster a tragedy and his remarks had the tone of sorrow and compassion. He never said the Haitians deserve this tragedy or that god or the devil caused it.
Secondly, he correctly points out that a vast majority of Haitians practice voodoo and that they made a pact with the Devil centuries ago (if you believe historical accounts.)
Next, he compared Haiti with the DR, which took a different course and is now a "prosperous" nation.
Finally, he called for prayer for the Haitians and expressed hope that out of this tragedy could come redemption of the country and its citizens.
Now I may not agree with everything that Robertson has said over the years, but I just don't see the big deal here.
Posted by: RambleOn | January 14, 2010 4:06 PM
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Christian haters are of course joyous... but of course his comments seem to be taken out-of-context...
– VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010 — On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed.
Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath.
If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them.
His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster.
They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.
Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN
Posted by: pvilso24 | January 14, 2010 4:07 PM
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When you get a glimpse into the mind of these religious fanatics it turns your stomach....
Ghod save us from religion...
dr. o
Posted by: ad4hk2004 | January 14, 2010 4:08 PM
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Christian fundamentalists don't believe in taking lives to further political ends? This will be great comfort to the families of Drs. George Tiller, Barnett Slepian, David Gunn and others who were gunned down by Right to Life advocates. While terrible and heinous, this terrorism pales by comparison to the encouragement by several nuns and a priest in Rwanda for the killing of hundreds of thousands of Tutsis. In the devolution of Yugoslavia, Roman Catholic Croats and Orthodox Christian Serbs waged holy war on each other. These are just a few of the politically motivated killings by Christian in the past century. From the 19th century backward, there is no scarcity of incidents of Christians killing to further political ends. Only an ignorant fool or a religious zealot (oh, sorry, I am being redundant) would make such a stupid statement.
Posted by: csintala79 | January 14, 2010 4:08 PM
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You can't give the insane a pulpit and expect a wise sermon. You can most certainly expect lunacy and the appalling hum of the nonsensical hymn intoning the delusional vision of a dizzy intellect. Oh, and a collection plate just before the curtain comes down.
Posted by: JenAZ | January 14, 2010 4:12 PM
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Pat Robertson is a great Christian disciple.
He spoke the truth and he receiving a lot of hate for it. Most of the hateful comments are coming from a misinterpretation of his words.
Peoples actions do have a consequence. Half of the population of Haiti practice VooDoo, worshiping and sacrificing to Satan. Deuteronomy 28 declares the consequences.
Speaking a warning, is a gift to the those who can hear.
Pat Robertson is showing Christian compassion to the people of Haiti with aid.
Pat Robertson spoke with wisdom. True love speaks the Truth.
Posted by: randfb | January 14, 2010 4:17 PM
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Robertson is an idiot! And since Haiti is a counry of people of African descent, where's Rev. Al, Rev. Jackson, the NAACP, the Urban League, etc? This coming weekend is the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Birthday holiday; where's the SCLC and its new president, Rev. Dr. Berniece King, MLK and Coretta's youngest child? :( :(
Posted by: 424me | January 14, 2010 4:19 PM
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Pat Robertson has totally lost his marbles. His commentents are totally offensive and off base. Besides, who would put a curse on Haitians if they already made a pact with the devil? Why would devil curse them, shouldn't they be rich, isn't that what's supposed to happen if you sell your soul? Or maybe it's exactly the opposite, maybe the Haitians are good Christians, and because they have such a misery on the earth, they will be first in line to go to heaven? None of this of course makes any sense, and only someone totally demented like Pat Robertson would use misery of others to spew out hatred. Maybe he's the one who is cursed....
Posted by: Non-catholic | January 14, 2010 4:19 PM
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As usual PR is bunkers. Like, who in Haiti specifically made a pact with the devil: name, rank, serial number if u pls?
When Haiti revolted from slavery (and there was slavery in the US, no?) the French opted to leave the southern Hemisphere because they needed the money at home. Thus, they abandoned Haiti and then sold Louisiana for $15 million dollars (3 cents an acre) an area which comprised thirteen States west of the Mississippi!
PR, should heed, that without this circumstance his flock would b well reduced.
So who really profited from this “devil arrangement” but Pat Robertson! Amen.
Posted by: Lamorial | January 14, 2010 4:25 PM
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OF COURSE Christian bashers will be overjoyed at this. One of the leading media figures of the religion has made himself look like the ignorant fool he really is (even if his words are taken our of context).
I DID watch the video and I'll rightly agree with you, his TONE did carry compassion... however, his WORDS were chosen poorly. No matter how accurate, now is NOT the time to make the remarks he did -- DURING the disaster. Don't take the opposite extreme of the table. His WORDS basically said "Sucks for them, but the devil-worshipers had it coming."
Yes yes, the orginazation has done wonderful humanitarian things, sending aide, assisting blah blah blah while pocketing a nice little chunk themselves for their troubles... but most of the focus is on HIM and not the organization. Yes, we all make bad decisions and may say the wrong thing from time to time, but we aren't all public figures, are we?
Posted by: Raxion | January 14, 2010 4:25 PM
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fr pvilso24:
>...If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them.
His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster.
They have sent a shipment of millions...
So why doesn't robber$on actually roll up his sleeves and HELP by digging out the victims? Not preaching to them, but actually HELPING them? Let him send his millions that he makes from his Liberian diamond mines to Haiti.
Posted by: Alex511 | January 14, 2010 4:27 PM
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Why are people feigning surprise at what this knucklehead is saying? As far back as I can remember this guy always talked stuff that made it clear that he was an unrepentent bigot. Not an ordinary bigot but one that was highly unintelligent. Not unlike many other people like him ( racist and full of religiosity) he had money because he was supported by people who believed some of his spoken stuff even while he was applying his undisguised bigotry. As with Swaggart, Fallwell, Grahams and many more of those people nothing racist he says is surprising to me. As a matter of fact I am currently unable to recognize a non bigotted bone in his sub-cortically directed being. I am surprised that this paper still has space for his idiocy when activities of a much higher class (Tiger Woods etc)are screaming for media exposure
Posted by: Draesop | January 14, 2010 4:28 PM
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Everyone, we must unite and build a cross to nail Robertson on it. He must pay for all evangelical sins.
Posted by: DIMMY | January 14, 2010 4:29 PM
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First of all, I suggest everyone see the full text of Robertson's comments before letting your vile keyboards run...
Second, the whole time Robertson was making these comments on his show, he had the number on their screen for their viewers to give to their humanitarian relief organization Operation Blessing. OB has already been at work in Haiti long before the earthquake.
Operation Blessing has touched the lives of more than 209 million people in 105 countries and all 50 states, providing goods and services valued at more than $1.7 billion. So, once you have surpassed that, then you will be in a better place to judge Pat Robertson about Haiti.
And what are you doing?
Posted by: pgr88 | January 14, 2010 4:29 PM
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Hagee, Wright, & Robertson are three modern examples of why I am grateful that Thomas Jefferson sought a devision between church and state.
Posted by: MidwestVoter | January 14, 2010 4:30 PM
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Pat Robertson is truly the devil incarnate. Satan lives and totally dominates his body and soul. Fortunately, one of the deeper pits in Hell awaits him. Let it be soon.
Posted by: dsrobins | January 14, 2010 4:36 PM
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Everyone understands that the laws of nature and the laws of God are two separate and distinct things. Sheer nonsense to say that God had any thing whatsoever to do with this.The forces of nature sometimes have to be reckoned with and cause much heartache from the miscarriage of a very much wanted baby to the massive heartache of a calamity like this.
Posted by: skybride56 | January 14, 2010 4:37 PM
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What a silver-tongued devil... his *tone* was compassionate, even as his words moved his agenda forward. What a seasoned genius he is, no wonder he's built a fortune preying (or praying!) on the gullible.
Posted by: SurlyGirly | January 14, 2010 4:39 PM
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Another Evangelical Republican spouting hateful and invective things. He shows no compassion towards the unbelievable suffering going on in Haiti. Instead he is postulating about myths.
Posted by: jabreal00 | January 14, 2010 4:40 PM
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Peoples actions do have a consequence. Half of the population of Haiti practice VooDoo, worshiping and sacrificing to Satan. Posted by: randfb
Actually, Vodoun is NOT Satan worship. And Haiti is predominantly Catholic.
Posted by: lepidopteryx | January 14, 2010 4:41 PM
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Pat Robinson has forgotten that all of humanity is deserving of God's wrath. Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." If God punished humans for all the empty resolutions we make, there would be no humans left on earth--there would be a natural disaster everyday. Or imagine God only blessed people that attended ... See MoreChurch 365 days a year--this would say then that God is small and weak because He's easily swayed. God is Sovereign and does not tailor His will to the "pacts" or promises of mortals. God has planned everything in human history for His glory; the disasters, the victories, the times of peace, and times of strife has been under His complete control. Because of our sin, we all are deserving of more punishment than just natural disasters, we deserve eternal hell and wrath, but God in His love and grace has taken the punishment that was meant for us. Isaiah 53 "He [Jesus]was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities;the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed." We need to love the Haitians, and others around us who are suffering, with the sacrificial love of Jesus. Now is the time to come together with God's love, not be separated by hypocritical words.
Posted by: pdogglimhotmailcom | January 14, 2010 4:46 PM
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I think it was the Dalai Lama who said, "Follow those who seek the truth. Beware of those who have found it."
Posted by: greggwiggins | January 14, 2010 4:48 PM
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First of all, I suggest everyone see the full text of Robertson's comments before letting your vile keyboards run...
Second, the whole time Robertson was making these comments on his show, he had the number on their screen for their viewers to give to their humanitarian relief organization Operation Blessing. OB has already been at work in Haiti long before the earthquake.
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I've seen all of his comments. And they're despicable. And if he believes them, he might actually be insane.
And yes, you're right. The entire time he was speaking, they had up the number to send money to Pat Robertson....who has a history of collecting lots of donations and then not using the money for the stated purpose (like the "relief aid" money for Africa that went to his diamond mining operation).
Posted by: a1231 | January 14, 2010 4:48 PM
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Of course the invention of hell was a creation designed to instill fear - not too mention exercise control over the populace. Pr & the Pope do a good job of the lie!
Posted by: Lamorial | January 14, 2010 4:49 PM
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so pat's god is killing more than 50,000 people, including innocent newborns in a hospital that collapsed, because someone was practicing voodoo .... 300 years ago!?!?
Pat can take his freaking god and shove it up that same dark hole where he keeps his head
Posted by: khote14 | January 14, 2010 4:50 PM
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I don't even practice a religion, and I'm more religious than Pat Robertson is. We should hold Pat Robertson accountable for his disgusting comments. It brings me great sadness that we have so many Americans that are ignorant enough to support this man.
Let's just say, hypothetically (in an imaginary world), that what he suggested was possible - why would you punish Haitians now for a 'deal with the devil' that the people who lived there hundreds of years ago made? Brilliant logic.
Posted by: minasaywhat | January 14, 2010 4:56 PM
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Pat should know about deals with the devil considering he's spent his life amassing tremendous personal wealth and in the single-minded pursuit of temporal political power.
It's all about Pat and earthly power. Jesus and the Bible are just sales accessories.
Posted by: jaho | January 14, 2010 4:57 PM
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Just as few conservative moderates ever stand up to the looney toons on the far right such as Palin, few moderate Christians stand up to the likes of Pat Robertson and his millions -- yes millions -- of followers. Until moderate Christians are willing to say "I am a Christian and Pat Robertson is full of S___!", agnostics like myself will consider all believers to be of the sam ilk.
Posted by: tradeczar | January 14, 2010 5:02 PM
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This is a case of the Blind leading the Blind.
So by Pats history lesson, the French were led by God to enslave Haiti. The Haitians sign a pact with the devil to oust the French and they succeeded. Now the calamity that has taken place before and now, is because of God's Wrath. So not only did God take his wrath out on the nation of Haiti, He also took his wrath out on the Catholic Haitians and the Protestant Haitans. (We'll have to ask Brit Hume if there were any Buddist Haitians)... Wait, a minute. Perhaps we should ask Pat were there any "righteous" who loss their life, or does Pat think that he's the only one whose righteous therefore he's the only one who knows who the righteous are thereby placing himself on the throne and/or above God. Didn't satan and some other angels who followed satan get kick out of heaven for trying to do the same thing? Satan was and is always trying to usurp the authority of God. Looks like his followers are still in business also. They present themselves as "angels of light." ...And by the way, while America is in the process of rescueing and saving lives, perhaps we should rescue that young lady sitting beside pat robertson. I'm just saying...
Posted by: MILLER123 | January 14, 2010 5:03 PM
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Pat Robertson should be forced to watch Julia Sweeney's one-woman show "Letting Go of God" until he is cured of his being bred, born and brainwashed in red-neck christianity!!!
Posted by: ccnl1 | January 14, 2010 5:09 PM
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The Haitians have been punished indeed, and it has been at the hands of the Imperial overlords. They entered into a neo-colonial phase over a century before colonies in Africa that were liberated after WWII. With the French gone, they were left to compete with the Imperial powers and they were surely not interested in seeing Haiti prosper. Haiti would be free from physical bondage but enslaved economically until the present day. The psychological mutilation caused by the heinous, satanic brutality of the French, followed by economic slavery and a history of meddling in their political process, has led to the development of learned helplessness - a common response to constant frustration. These Haitians are, in truth, real victims. When will the first world have a sincere interest in seeing any of the former colonies succeed? At this point, rehabilitation will take a long time indeed. And rehabilitation to what state? Is there a model of good society out there to base success upon? If G-d did have a direct hand in the chain of disasters that have hit this people, could it be to help them turn away from the crass materialism and filthy decadence of the first world? Falling into that darkness after having suffered for so long may be where He has drawn the line. They deserve our sincere prayers for peace, prosperity, and a rapid recovery.
Posted by: JustCato | January 14, 2010 5:23 PM
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Let Robertson rant. The sheep in his flock will follow no matter what he says. For the rest, it only erodes what little credibility he has left. Doesn't christian Robertson care about human suffering? Does he understand natural causes? Yah, blame the devil. It's the victims' fault.
Posted by: eaglepeak | January 14, 2010 5:32 PM
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Robertson is the voice of Republican Christian Values and nothing has changed as Oral Roberts did the same thing. Yes Jesus said Satan would be in the church. Oral Roberts blackmailed people for money using God's Name and Rick Warren followed in his footsteps doing the same thing. Pat Robertson said God talks to him and tells him what He wants. Use your brain for one second, it's not God talking to him it's Satan. Proof is in the greed and involvement in Govenment that makes it clear. Jesus said give Ceasar what is Ceasar, give God what is God's. Our Religious Leaders no longer speak the words of the bible but are speaking the words of Satan.
Posted by: qqbDEyZW | January 14, 2010 5:45 PM
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Why aren't these religious leaders given the honorific "Radical Cleric". I often use it with the evangelicals in my family and it brings forth that hatred those people seem to find in Jesus.
Pray for Haiti.
Posted by: FLADC | January 14, 2010 5:45 PM
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This is a case of the Blind leading the Blind.
So by Pats history lesson, the French were led by God to enslave Haiti. The Haitians sign a pact with the devil to oust the French and they succeeded. Now the calamity that has taken place before and now, is because of God's Wrath. So not only did God take his wrath out on the nation of Haiti, He also took his wrath out on the Catholic Haitians and the Protestant Haitans. (We'll have to ask Brit Hume if there were any Buddist Haitians)... Wait, a minute. Perhaps we should ask Pat were there any "righteous" who loss their life, or does Pat think that he's the only one whose righteous therefore he's the only one who knows who the righteous are thereby placing himself on the throne and/or above God. Didn't satan and some other angels who followed satan get kick out of heaven for trying to do the same thing? Satan was and is always trying to usurp the authority of God. Looks like his followers are still in business also. They present themselves as "angels of light." ...And by the way, while America is in the process of rescueing and saving lives, perhaps we should rescue that young lady sitting beside pat robertson. I'm just saying...
Faith without works is dead. Works however, no matter how good (that includes charitable deeds for those who don't understand the gospel) will not save you by themselves. Some good works in the end won't mean anything. They are going to be burnt up. (For Believers there are scriptures to back this up.
Posted by: MILLER123 | January 14, 2010 5:47 PM
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Robertson is the voice of Republican Christian Values and nothing has changed as Oral Roberts did the same thing. Yes Jesus said Satan would be in the church. Oral Roberts blackmailed people for money using God's Name and Rick Warren followed in his footsteps doing the same thing. Pat Robertson said God talks to him and tells him what He wants. Use your brain for one second, it's not God talking to him it's Satan. Proof is in the greed and involvement in Govenment that makes it clear. Jesus said give Ceasar what is Ceasar, give God what is God's. Our Religious Leaders no longer speak the words of the bible but are speaking the words of Satan.
Posted by: qqbDEyZW | January 14, 2010 5:48 PM
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Pat Robertson, "the 'purported Christian minister' who suggested assassinating Venezuela leader Hugo Chavez and nuking the U.S. State Department, the reputed follower of Jesus who blamed the 9/11 terrorist attacks and Hurricane Katrina on pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays and lesbians, is now attributing the Haitian earthquake to Haiti's "pact to the devil."...It's also possible Robertson doesn't know what he's talking about."
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Or it could be that it's what "he" knows for sure that just ain't so...
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." Mark Twain
Pat Robertson is well positioning himself to live out the rest of his like in hell with that "devil" he seems to know so much about!
Posted by: Beingsensible | January 14, 2010 5:56 PM
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First time the SOB might be correct
Posted by: edperry1 | January 14, 2010 5:57 PM
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This is a case of the Blind leading the Blind.
So by Pats history lesson, the French were led by God to enslave Haiti. The Haitians sign a pact with the devil to oust the French and they succeeded. Now the calamity that has taken place before and now, is because of God's Wrath. So not only did God take his wrath out on the nation of Haiti, He also took his wrath out on the Catholic Haitians and the Protestant Haitans. (We'll have to ask Brit Hume if there were any Buddist Haitians)... Wait, a minute. Perhaps we should ask Pat were there any "righteous" who loss their life, or does Pat think that he's the only one whose righteous therefore he's the only one who knows who the righteous are thereby placing himself on the throne and/or above God. Didn't satan and some other angels who followed satan get kick out of heaven for trying to do the same thing? Satan was and is always trying to usurp the authority of God. Looks like his followers are still in business also. They present themselves as "angels of light." ...And by the way, while America is in the process of rescueing and saving lives, perhaps we should rescue that young lady sitting beside pat robertson. I'm just saying...
Faith without works is dead. Works however, no matter how good (that includes charitable deeds for those who don't understand the gospel) will not save you by themselves. Some good works in the end won't mean anything. They are going to be burnt up. (For Believers there are scriptures to back this up.
Posted by: MILLER123 | January 14, 2010 6:13 PM
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How Prophetic is this?
What's the percentage of having a big earthquake if you build on a fault line. Lets say, if you live in California for example. Has there ever been any huge loss of life there in Cali over the years? Do you think the buildings codes should have changed? Was there ever a huge fire in the US. Where? How about this one. What if you build your house in the gulf or the florida coastline? Will you someday experience massive flooding and damage? Who saids you need flood insurance and how did they come to that conclusion? What do you think will happen? What if you tried to keep out the ocean with levees and don't maintain the levees and build your house right next to it, what do you think will happen? What if you build your house on the beach and erosion began to eat at the sand? What would happen to your house eventually? What if you build your house of clay or straw and the big bad wolf came and blew at your house.
Yes! You too, can be prophectic just like and even better than pat robertson if you came to the right conclusions, but please, don't call for the assassination a leader of another country. That's taking it a lit...tle to far.
Posted by: MILLER123 | January 14, 2010 6:19 PM
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Even if Robertson's comments were taken out of context, when someone is down, you don't add to the distress. Let him talk about Haiti being cursed in private or wait a year.
It's like telling someone dying of cancer they're only reaping what they've sown. You can think it all you want, but don't say it.
Posted by: Matthew_DC | January 14, 2010 6:52 PM
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"His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed.
Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath." -- Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN
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Millions of Christians do in fact believe that natural disasters are God's wrath. Pat Robertson said as much during the Katrina tragedy. If Robertson didn't want people to infer the same regarding the Haiti earthquake, why did he lead off his appeal with his "history" lesson?
"I'm not sayin' this is God's wrath or anything for the slaves makin' a pact with the Devil or anything...I'm just sayin'..."
Pull the other one.
Posted by: cornbread_r2 | January 14, 2010 6:55 PM
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once there was a rebel black voudoo priest that slaughtered whites and attacked plantations...
seeing how he was a voudoo priest, you kinda have to give it to him that he dealt with the devil...
and so did others like him...
Posted by: DwightCollins | January 14, 2010 7:02 PM
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nothing funnier than the people who attack Pat for what he said considering they don't believe in GOD or the Devil...
they have no say in this fight...
Posted by: DwightCollins | January 14, 2010 7:04 PM
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Of course Robertson exploited Haiti for higher ratings and material gain. He's a cheap, two-bit television shock jock no more than Limbaugh, Mormon Elder Glenn Beck and other Fox News Hucksters of the religious and political and divisiveness that is destroying America.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 14, 2010 7:31 PM
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How typical of the Dwight Collins ilk to simple-mindedly and conveniently dismiss all who are disgusted and outraged by Robertson as "non-believers" and claiming they have no say as if you didn't study the First Amendment to become a naturalized citizen.
You don't even come close to listening to or caring to know what others believe. You close your ears and run you mouth like the pompous blow-hard Limbaugh exploiting the death, pain and hardship of others to make right=wing political hay.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 14, 2010 7:39 PM
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I challenge Pat Robertson to a public debate about God. I am tired of these false prophets with big microphones who think that Gad has given then the right to represent Him. He is a no good stupid thief who steals from the poor in the name of God. Pat, I dare you to debate me in public about God.
Posted by: RobbyLa | January 14, 2010 7:43 PM
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One more thing...
If anyone needs to atone for deeds committed during the early days of Haiti, it is the French. Their greed, lust for power and pitiless cruelty as slave-masters was satanic indeed. I have seen no report in the news of a significant aid effort from France. Where are their Legionnaires? Are they not leaders of the French speaking world? The French should rush to the aid of their former colony, from which they extracted a considerable amount of wealth, or else give the Haitians half the art in the Louvre or all of Versailles (this treasure can be regarded as loot by the way). Maybe this good deed will help save them from the stagnant hell of artistic decadence, immorality, and prideful disdain for the ways of the spirit.
Posted by: JustCato | January 14, 2010 7:43 PM
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If there were a god (gods ?), his (her/their?) first order of business would be to silence the uber-parasite known as pat r.
Posted by: socomfy | January 14, 2010 7:46 PM
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Pat Robertson is to Christianity what Britney Spears is to music.
Posted by: WmarkW | January 14, 2010 7:54 PM
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I have friends who went all over the world on Christian missions. They went to southeast Asia, Africa and one of their stops were in Haiti.
The most hostile place for them was Haiti with the practice of Voodoo being dominant and inhospitable to Christians.
Saying that, ANYBODY THAT SAYS THEY KNOW THAT A CERTAIN TRAGEDY CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO GOD OR SATAN IS FOOLISH.
Reading these Posts, there are plenty of know-it-all fools to go around.
Posted by: JimMF | January 14, 2010 7:55 PM
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Most all of these comments are offensive! For one, you go by one person interpretation of what they heard and run with it, two you actually believe what you read. Maybe you should listening to the WHOLE SEGMENT of Mr. Robertson's before making judgements. AND QUIT LUMPING ALL CHRISTIANS INTO ONE BEING. We all have minds and opinions, doesn't make us right or wrong but we aren't wrong just because we are Christians. Maybe you should learn more about Haiti also. It's amazing no one cared about them until their tragedy
Posted by: terkin48 | January 14, 2010 8:09 PM
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A little, believing Christian woman once said, "The hardest spirit to cast out is a religious spirit." That was nearly 30 years ago & the most meaningful part of it seems to cover all religions, or the ones that believe in none...right now, what difference does it make what caused this catastrophe? The people gone and those remaining face[d] the choices present when nature, combined with ignorance, results in calamity...the rolling, surface earthquake shook down buildings where codes were either poor or not required...a long history of the worst corruption, lack of education, poor infrastructure and neglect did its work among congenital poverty and the people most damaged covered a spectrum of the Haitian economy. It is difficult either to dismiss or accept entirely the varying explanations for what hit Haiti: best for all to roll up our collective sleeves and begin the long work of rebuilding, accepting the need for grace, wisdom, understanding and knowledge, however it comes -- again.
Posted by: cartouchekhc | January 14, 2010 8:09 PM
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MTV Networks is working with George Clooney to stage a telethon for Haitian earthquake relief.
This is what true Christians do instead of the sneering and squawking of Roberton's hateful Huckabee sect.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 14, 2010 8:25 PM
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Regardless of what Pat Robertson said or Rush Limbaugh for that matter, this travesty is a definitely a "Teachable Moment" for all of us, who believe that we can survive natures wrath or a man made disaster, such as 911.
There are some who think and believe that they live in a bubble, or that they are immune from poverty, death, illness, or natural disasters because of the color of their skin, or socioeconomic class, et al.
Therefore, the real question is how are you responding to this natural disaster?
As a cynic, a naysayer, a critic, a racist or bigot, a hypocrite, or someone who has the ability to show compassion and reach out to those those who are less fortunate than you.
Let's assume that there is a God and let's also assume that God allowed the earthquake to happen in this poverty stricken nation.
And, let's assume that the reason why he allowed it to happen was because he/she wanted to test the minds and hearts of mankind. To see how you would respond.
I have been told that God works in mysterious ways and that he allows bad things to happen to test the hearts of man.
Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 14, 2010 8:54 PM
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On a different note, at least we aren't all waiting around for Al Qaeda to take credit for this devistation ... which when compared to God's wrath, kinda makes them look like amatures. Don't it ?
Posted by: jralger | January 14, 2010 9:09 PM
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On a different note, at least we aren't all waiting around for Al Qaeda to take credit for this devistation ... which when compared to God's wrath, kinda makes them look like amatures. Don't it ?
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I couldn't help but laugh when I read your post.
Yes, it does make them look like amateurs and I love your sense of humor.
Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 14, 2010 9:23 PM
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It's neither the voice of God nor the voice of Satan that Robertson hears in his head. The man's just nucking futs.
Posted by: lepidopteryx | January 14, 2010 9:36 PM
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Pat Robertson should just send $100 to his favorite relief organization (or maybe $1000 or more) and just shut up. That would do some good. His comments, along with Limbaugh and others, show how empty their rhetoric is.
Posted by: epittelkau | January 14, 2010 9:44 PM
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CAREFUL Pat Robertson, lest the Hand of the Lord puts a curse upon thee who would be the judge of others.
Posted by: phall4 | January 14, 2010 10:56 PM
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I hope that someone someday beats the cr@p out of Robertson.
Posted by: dlkimura | January 14, 2010 10:57 PM
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Pat Robertson isn't God, he isn't Jesus, and, I don't believe that he is even a human being.
To think, his acolyte will become Virginia's Governor in just a few hours.
Posted by: radioz | January 14, 2010 11:44 PM
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America is NOT exempt
In THIS country we have Brutal Satanists , who Abduct Children and
Adults to , RAPE , TORTURE , and Brutalize thier bodies to The Ancient
Gods of Hell.
Sabbatean - Frankists Like : Abortionist Doctor Philip Kitner
of Asheville North Carolina, Abortionist Doctor Warren Hern of Boulder Co,
Norma Fitzwater of Ohio, USA Army colonel Michael and Lilth Aquino of St.. Louis Mo.
These Yezidiya ( Aramaic word for : Satan -Set -Hell Worshippers)
... REALLY do Torture humans, Eat them and Drink thier blood.
They saw children's faces off with bandsaws, in satanic rituals .throw people into vats of battery acid ; ,
skin theme alive and eat them .
....all while filming this with cameras to sell blackmarket and make extra monies.
These ceremonies take place in the Caverens on the border of Murphy North Carolina and Tennessee.
Our Country is JUST AS EVIL as Haiti..
Go here to see actual drawings from an EX victim USA Army colonel Michael and Lilth Aquino .
They tortured her her ENTIRE young life. She witnesses COUNTLESS human sacrifce and RAPE by the Aquinos.
She now lives In South Africa. Email her @ this website.
Go here to see actual drawings of the Horror she Endured by OUR USA.
http://www.revolutionzone.co.za/art.php
My point is THE USA is NOT exempt.
~H
Posted by: hotepneferhem | January 15, 2010 1:56 AM
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The slave revolt by the Haitian slaves was applauded by free people everywhere except in the American South -- the bastion of slavery. As Robertson is a descendant of the Evangelical Christians of the American South that promoted slavery in order to satisfy their avarice for quick and easy wealth obtained through the bondage of others, it becomes readily apparent that Robertson has contempt for the children of slaves whose rebellion set in motion the forces that eventually led to both his legacy and his birthright of being a master being negated. With Christians as their masters, it seems reasonable for the Haitian slaves to side with the devil in their rejection of their masters' religion. But their Christian masters had already rejected Jesus to embrace Mammon.
Posted by: south_philly_yankee | January 15, 2010 3:28 AM
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"It's clear no one bothered to look further for the full context of Robertson's statement..." - Posted by pgr88
Why should Robertson get the courtesy and intellectual honesty fundies and conservos find impossible to extend to anyone else just because you find him an appealing character? There was no quote-mining involved here, no mysterious ellipses covering up any important context of his statements. He said what he said and deserves the overwhelmingly negative response he's received. Go find something legitimate to whine about; right now you got nothing.
Posted by: washpost18 | January 15, 2010 6:06 AM
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VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010 — On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed.
Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath.
Robertson did say however that the pact with the devil was a TRUE story that took place in the time of Napoleon 3rd. Well Pat's history is wrong, the slave rebellion took place at the time of Napoleon 3rd's uncle Napoleon Bonaparte and the legend says that the curse was for 200 years. Maybe Pat's mental arithmatic is as flawed as his understanding of history, compassion and theology. Most of us can recall Pat's previously expressed views on other topics such as 9/11, civil rights, apartheid, health care etc. Franklin Graham's feeble rebuke that Pat Robertson has misspoke is regrettable but not surprising.
Posted by: roadsmerry | January 15, 2010 7:23 AM
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The Haitian consul in Brazil agrees with Robertson.
Posted by: EliPeyton | January 15, 2010 9:05 AM
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"How typical of the Dwight Collins ilk to simple-mindedly and conveniently dismiss all who are disgusted and outraged by Robertson as "non-believers" and claiming they have no say as if you didn't study the First Amendment to become a naturalized citizen.
You don't even come close to listening to or caring to know what others believe. You close your ears and run you mouth like the pompous blow-hard Limbaugh exploiting the death, pain and hardship of others to make right=wing political hay.
Posted by: coloradodog | January 14, 2010 7:39 PM"
no, because I don't have an agenda and if I did I would not want you on my side...
I voice my opinion, if it makes sense to you, fine, if it doesn't, again fine...
I'm not here to entertain or shut you up...
Unlike you...
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Posted by: DwightCollins | January 15, 2010 9:14 AM
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"One more thing...
If anyone needs to atone for deeds committed during the early days of Haiti, it is the French. Their greed, lust for power and pitiless cruelty as slave-masters was satanic indeed. I have seen no report in the news of a significant aid effort from France. Where are their Legionnaires? Are they not leaders of the French speaking world? The French should rush to the aid of their former colony, from which they extracted a considerable amount of wealth, or else give the Haitians half the art in the Louvre or all of Versailles (this treasure can be regarded as loot by the way). Maybe this good deed will help save them from the stagnant hell of artistic decadence, immorality, and prideful disdain for the ways of the spirit.
Posted by: JustCato | January 14, 2010 7:43 PM
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black gangs in haiti are responsable for the death of thousands of whites and blacks...
they have alot to atone for...
Posted by: DwightCollins | January 15, 2010 9:18 AM
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Everybody have to face the taste of death one day. No body knows where and how it will happen. It is sad to see how people like Pat Robertson view the greatest human disastar on the earth and try to profit from it. When the whole world, regardless of religion, sympathysizes with the victim, it is sad to see people like Pat Robertson and thier likes wasting no times to get some material gian from this crisis.
Posted by: AllahuAhad | January 15, 2010 9:21 AM
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Robertson is one of the poorest excuses for a Christian that I have ever seen or heard. As an "equal-opportunity heathen" I volunteer for Salvation Army and also the St. Vincent de Paul charitable groups and helped the Mormon ward when I lived in Utah.
Preachers and so-called "men of God" like Robertson are the reason I and many others do not attend church. My God is not vindictive and mean-spirited, as Robertson's seems to be. And to think that many follow his teachings and also believe that God is not love, but hate.
Posted by: Utahreb | January 15, 2010 9:24 AM
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"This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed."
Posted by: roadsmerry
Countless scholars? Can you name three who have written Haiti is cursed?
Posted by: Fate1 | January 15, 2010 9:28 AM
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I suspect Pat's god is the almighty dollar. With a 400+ million CBN budget, can he afford his Christian subscribers to be sending their spare cash to every natural disaster? But if they're all the "work of the devil", they should send their contributions to Pat so he can put a stop to that devilishness! Great strategy Pat! Who's doing the devil's work now?
Posted by: jagwire10 | January 15, 2010 10:07 AM
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Robertson is hateful and a fool. He is no Christian.Posted by: AMviennaVA
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Perhaps the No True Scotsman Fallacy needs a tune-up.
Posted by: tojby_2000 | January 15, 2010 10:49 AM
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Frightening, but not surprising, that this repugnant piece of filth has followers. Ol Pat and his ilk have been seeding the law schools and courts for years now; it's only going to get worse once these vacant souls truly come to power. Keep talkin', Pat. Overt declarations of your inhumanity and opportunism, while disgusting and hard to stomach, do us all a favor by exposing you and your followers' true nature to the world.
Posted by: franktank | January 15, 2010 2:26 PM
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Robertson is evil. When he dies the world will be a vastly better place.
Posted by: peter18 | January 15, 2010 9:25 PM
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Normally, the sheer venom of the posters on this board disturbs me. Not this time.
And correct me if my history is wrong, but didn't European Christianity start moving away from the idea of this sort of divine punishment after Lisbon (right?) was destroyed by an Earthquake? Wasn't this like... 500 years ago?
It's important to remember that fundamentalist "Christianity" as expounded by Robertson is NOT traditional faith but a thoroughly modern phenomenon that started in the United States in 19th century.
There have been many Christian thinkers of great skill and originality, going back a very long time to people like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and Origen. The philosophical sophistication (and often, the humility) of these theologians is truly stunning in comparison to our popular image of "Christianity." Augustine gets a (well-deserved) bad rap for his views on sexuality, but his works remain profound, introspective and very beautiful, and should not be missed.
Furthermore, the media image we get of Christianity is worth about as much as the media image we get of Islam - in other words, it's worth absolutely nothing. Religions are sunk far too deep in history and culture to ever be summed up in a soundbite. I am not religious, but in my own life it has become plain that there are deeply religious people of every faith who defy every stereotype.
Posted by: decentdust | January 16, 2010 12:04 AM
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Normally, the sheer venom of the posters on this board disturbs me. Not this time.
And correct me if my history is wrong, but didn't European Christianity start moving away from the idea of this sort of divine punishment after Lisbon (right?) was destroyed by an Earthquake? Wasn't this like... 500 years ago?
It's important to remember that fundamentalist "Christianity" as expounded by Robertson is NOT traditional faith but a thoroughly modern phenomenon that started in the United States in 19th century.
There have been many Christian thinkers of great skill and originality, going back a very long time to people like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and Origen. The philosophical sophistication (and often, the humility) of these theologians is truly stunning in comparison to our popular image of "Christianity." Augustine gets a (well-deserved) bad rap for his views on sexuality, but his works remain profound, introspective and very beautiful, and should not be missed.
Furthermore, the media image we get of Christianity is worth about as much as the media image we get of Islam - in other words, it's worth absolutely nothing. Religions are sunk far too deep in history and culture to ever be summed up in a soundbite. I am not religious, but in my own life it has become plain that there are deeply religious people of every faith who defy every stereotype.
Posted by: decentdust | January 16, 2010 12:05 AM
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Normally, the sheer venom of the posters on this board disturbs me. Not this time.
And correct me if my history is wrong, but didn't European Christianity start moving away from the idea of this sort of divine punishment after Lisbon (right?) was destroyed by an earthquake? Wasn't this like... 500 years ago?
It's important to remember that fundamentalist "Christianity" as expounded by Robertson is NOT traditional faith but a thoroughly modern phenomenon that started in the United States in 19th century.
There have been many Christian thinkers of great skill and originality, going back a very long time to people like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and Origen. The philosophical sophistication (and often, the humility) of these theologians is truly stunning in comparison to our popular image of "Christianity." Augustine gets a (well-deserved) bad rap for his views on sexuality, but his works remain profound, introspective and very beautiful, and should not be missed.
Furthermore, the media image we get of Christianity is worth about as much as the media image we get of Islam - in other words, it's worth absolutely nothing. Religions are sunk far too deep in history and culture to ever be summed up in a soundbite. I am not religious, but in my own life it has become plain that there are deeply religious people of every faith who defy every stereotype.
Posted by: decentdust | January 16, 2010 12:07 AM
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America is NOT exempt
In THIS country we have Brutal Satanists , who Abduct Children and
Adults to , RAPE , TORTURE , and Brutalize thier bodies to The Ancient
Gods of Hell.
Sabbatean - Frankists Like : Abortionist Doctor Philip Kitner
of Asheville North Carolina, Abortionist Doctor Warren Hern of Boulder Co,
Norma Fitzwater of Ohio, USA Army colonel Michael and Lilith Aquino of St.. Louis Mo.
These Yezidiya ( Aramaic word for : Satan -Set -Hell Worshippers)
... REALLY do Torture humans, Eat them and Drink their blood.
They saw children's faces off with band saws, in satanic rituals .throw people into vats of battery acid ; ,
skin theme alive and eat them .
....all while filming this with cameras to sell black market and make extra monies.
These ceremonies take place in the Caverns on the border of Murphy North Carolina and Tennessee.
Our Country is JUST AS EVIL as Haiti..
Go here to see actual drawings from an EX victim USA Army colonel Michael and Lilth Aquino .
They tortured her her ENTIRE young life. She witnesses COUNTLESS human sacrifice and RAPE by the Aquinos.
She now lives In South Africa. Email her @ this website.
Go here to see actual drawings of the Horror she Endured by OUR USA.
http://www.revolutionzone.co.za/art.php
My point is THE USA is NOT exempt.
~H
Posted by: hotepneferhem | January 16, 2010 1:05 PM
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Once again, a man is being bashed for sharing his opinion on a matter of widespread importance. And once again, because he is a RELIGIOUS man, whatever he says is supposedly wrong. NEWS FLASH! Who has the Master's degree? Who has received over a dozen humanitarian awards? OK .. now who is sitting in their parent's basement, playing Runescape and eating junk food, and how could such an individual dare question a religious expert's grasp of historical concepts? I'll bet the next headline will be about the dumbing down of America... please .. thousands clinging to their very existence in Haiti, and all people can do stateside is make conjectures based on ill-formed biases? I'm sure our forefathers are turning in their graves as I type.
Posted by: OB1canOB | January 19, 2010 12:05 AM
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I think its a sad day when a man speaks the truth and gets blasted by the non believing public. Is it that difficult to believe that a place without God can fall? I mean, look at New Orleans, think about 9/11.. it can happen here too. We kick God out of everything and then act surprised with our Godlessness brings death and destruction. Wake up people. Don't blame Pat for shining the light on the problem. Fix the problem. Don't get me wrong. My heart goes out to these people and I would hate to be in that position... but the bottom line is, if you live in sin, doing things that are contrary to God's word, then the only outcome is death and destruction.
Posted by: Tellinit1 | January 19, 2010 10:00 AM
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Pat is referring to the legacy of using vodoo as part of general efforts to begin a slave rebellion officially recognized as being started by the liikely Muslim Dooty Boukman and finished off by possible Muslim and Haitian freedom hero Toussaint Louverture, who defeated the French.
The French at that time would be considered highly devlish themselves by any Christian.
Islam's partial tolerance of voodoo and other shamanic practices in Islamic Africa and the Anatolian plains made sure that these practices were Islamicized and not overly important, or thought of as cultural idiosyncracies( such as various ways of veiling, dress, some aspects of marriage etc.).
But anything Islamic is what Pat was really after.
Posted by: punkumin | January 19, 2010 3:06 PM
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Pat is referring to the legacy of using vodoo as part of general efforts to begin a slave rebellion officially recognized as being started by the liikely Muslim Dooty Boukman and finished off by possible Muslim and Haitian freedom hero Toussaint Louverture, who defeated the French.
The French at that time would be considered highly devlish themselves by any Christian.
Islam's partial tolerance of voodoo and other shamanic practices in Islamic Africa and the Anatolian plains made sure that these practices were Islamicized and not overly important, or thought of as cultural idiosyncracies( such as various ways of veiling, dress, some aspects of marriage etc.).
But anything Islamic is what Pat was really after.
Posted by: punkumin | January 19, 2010 3:07 PM
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Just wondering how Pat Robertson accounts for the Haitians being under the heel of "Napoleon III" who hadn't even been born at the time of their revolution. That's really devilish!
Posted by: kflynn1 | January 20, 2010 10:45 AM
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fr rambleon:
>...Finally, he called for prayer for the Haitians and expressed hope that out of this tragedy could come redemption of the country and its citizens....
Food, medicine and homes FIRST. Preaching towards the earthquake victims should be the very LAST thing that needs doing. Patty robber$on should go down there himself, roll up his lily white shirt sleeves and WORK for a change. Let him DONATE his ill-gotten gains from his liberian ILLEGAL DIAMOND MINES to Haiti and pay for all of the shipping himself.
Posted by: Alex511 | January 20, 2010 6:13 PM
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Perhaps these liberal critics should actually use their craniums and read the Bible in Genesis where it talks about a just God of wrath flooding the Earth of all evil leaving no one alive except Noah and his family to tell about it. Maybe even perhaps read in Genesis about what our God of justice poured out upon Sodom and Gomorrah, raining down from the sky hail of fire and brimstone, burning and destroying because of the sins of homosexuality, perversion, idolatry and other abominations of wickedness.
Did they repent beforehand? NO, they didn't.
Oh but wait, what about the story in the book of Numbers about Korah and his people's rebellion against God?
Here's what happened:
The ground under them split apart and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them, with their households and all Korah's men and all their possessions. They went down alive into the grave, with everything they owned; the earth closed over them, and they perished and were gone from the community. At their cries, all the Israelites around them fled, shouting, "The earth is going to swallow us too!"
"And fire came out from The Lord and consumed the 250 men who were offering the incense." Hmmmm? sounds like and EARTHQUAKE to me!!
Did they repent beforehand? NO, they didn't either. Hey, we have a pattern here!
My good people listen, we wouldn't argue about ignorant things if we simply read the word of God (The Bible).
God IS (Make no mistake about this) a just and righteous God and He abhors the abominable rebellious sins and practices (Voodoo,Shamanism etc.) of mankind. You don't make a pact with the devil and not expect to have destructive repercussions. Yes, there is a devil and yes, he does kill, steel and destroy, but there is also a mighty God who has repeatedly said: "If my people, who are called by my name (Sons, Daughters "Christians"), will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
God is not a mean ogre waiting to smite us at every sin. He is gracious, compassionate and merciful, but He is also a God of Holiness, Righteousness and Justice!
Oh yes, before you attack Pat Roberton for his words, remember that in the last days God Himself will raise up prophets as His mouthpiece to speak forth direction and condemnation as He wills.
Posted by: srvngYEWEH | January 22, 2010 11:24 AM
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Doesn't this Looney have a University and a Law School?
Beware of those filled with the milk of human kindness.
WPost, you're right. He has contributors who actually believe this tripe.
Amen!