The 'Lost' Supper or da Vinci?

Keep in mind that according to many contemporary NT and historical Jesus exegetes, da Vinci's last supper was also fictional.

e.g. http://wiki.faithfutures.org/index.php?title=016_Supper_and_Eucharist

"At the same time, Luedemann concludes that the portrayal of Jesus celebrating such a ritual on the night before his death is not historical. He is clear that there is "no generic relationship" between any actual final meal and the Lord's Supper understood in cultic terms.

He also denies the Passover character of the supper as a Markan creation. Like Meier (below), Luedemann does accept the saying (Mark 14:25) about drinking wine in the kingdom of God as authentic. He concludes: (this saying) "hardly came into being in the early community, for in it Jesus does not exercise any special function for believers at the festal meal in heaven which is imminent. Only Jesus' expectation of a the future kingdom of God stands at the centre, not Jesus as saviour, judge or intercessor."

Conclusion: Even the original Last Supper was "slick fiction" and simply another rip-off.

I'd have to go with The Sopranos - the placement of Tony and his mother are perfect. But why only six choices? I've compiled 100 pop culture Last Suppers to give you some more options:
http://culturepopped.blogspot.com/2007/04/suddenly-last-supper.html

Actually, my favorite isn't one of the choices - it's the Folsom Street Fair poster.

If one includes "The Sopranos," one has to include "The Godfather":

http://www.flickr.com/photos/contractflicks/2845801125/

Even if the Last Supper never happened, it's still a powerful image in artistic and mythical terms.

Too bad the list at Popped Culture doesn't include a Monty Python version.

You've ignored the best of all time - the scene of the feasting beggers in Bunuel's "Viridiana" - which preceded M.A.S.H. by several years.

I am stunned and shaken that the author has omitted the most important one of all: that starring His Noodliness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
http://www.venganza.org/images/wallpapers/Last-Supper.jpg

Hmmm, "Carstonio" appears yet again. Keep in mind that this is an anonymous blog and imposters abound even though "impostering" violates blog rules and the Torah's Ninth Commandment.

Tell me again who is the gay couple to the right of Jesus in the original. I thought gay-bashing "Christains" pontificate their god made Adam and Eve, not Peter and John.

Here's a peculiar Last Supper at the Wiesenkirche at Soest, Germany. Instead of bread and wine, ham and beer are served!
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.wiesenkirche.de/&ei=RiBFS5H9IJOWtgfR7bn-AQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnu

I didn't include the Monty Python version of the Last Supper in my list as it is a skit and not an image - unless you have seen an image.

I do have the Flying Spaghetti Monster but had not seen the Godfather version - thanks for the link.

What about Mel Brooks "History of the World" That was a great "Last Supper."

Persnally, I think most of these guys are ful of hot air!

RT
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Who can say no to Tricia Helfer?

I think it's a bit goofy to compare the various knockoffs to the original. The poll should be just among the knockoffs.

I think there's a little joke going on here with the Leonardo version. Notice the feet of Jesus. In the original fresco, a doorway was cut into the wall after the fresco was painted, eliminating Jesus' feet and part of the table cloth. No one knows what his feet looked like.

Moreover, Jesus' feet in the painting here are crossed at the knee or ankle. No 15th century artist of note would EVER paint someone like Jesus with his legs crossed! If anything, his feet would be planted on the floor, slighly splayed out.

No one knows what Jesus's feet looked like? No one knows what JESUS looked like. If it had been important what he looked like, God would've had someone invent the camera a lot sooner. And was the Last Supper catered, ya think?

Cleavage wins!

I'm surprised that missing from the choices offered is Salvadore Dali's "The Sacrament of the Last Supper." His surrealistic treatment is perhaps the most open to interpretation through individual perception.

Need one each for the following:
The E Street Band
Earth, Wind and Fire
Chicago
The Grateful Dead

And then:
The No-Name Defense
The Steel Curtain
The Greatest Show on Turf

Where can I get a copy of the Soprano's Last Supper? Like Poster sized?
That is awesome!

You left out the Flying Spaghetti Monster: http://www.venganza.org/images/wallpapers/Last-Supper.jpg

I am deeply offended.

Omoobatala,

I thought about mentioning Dali's masterpiece, but never got around to it. I had the privilege many years ago of seeing that remarkable painting 'up close and personal' in the National Gallery. Even as an ignorant 17 year old, I was stunned, and must have spent the better part of an hour looking at it from every distance and every angle.

Battlestar Galactica is the best choice because it seriously addressed the role of religion in government and society.

Another one to add to the list: There was an episode of "That 70's Show" that did a brilliant spoof as well... and this website will show you that image plus 90+ other spoofs:
http://www.2dorks.com/gallery/2009/0521-lastsupper/index.shtml

CCNL1: I am always amazed at how so-called "historical Jesus" critics can look back 2000 years into the past and pick out the "made-up bits." Even more amazing is that the remaining "real bits" always wind up supporting their agenda. Wow, they're so brilliant!

I love looking at all these versions of the Last Supper. Here is a web site that tracks Last Supper variations. Have fun.
http://culturepopped.blogspot.com/2007/04/suddenly-last-supper.html

I like the origional and for second best i would pick battle Star Galactica the actress in the center makes my leg tingle

Thank you , I haven't been to the National Gallery in awhile.

Meanwhile, Satan's evil trinity shaum, carstonio and coloradodog conspire to persecute ccnl1 by calling him on his incessant, repetitive cutting and pasting.

Of those shown, da Vinci's wins hands down. Among his most brilliant innovations on the theme was to have Judas seated in the midst of the disciples, present, not absent, in shadow rather than garbed in black.

The Last Supper myth with its betrayal of Christ by one among the first of Christians has a historic realism that da Vinci was at pains to render.

Traitors are always among us, no matter how good the mission. They are our insiders, our hypocritical others, our brothers.

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My favorite is Dali's but it wasn't a choice. This is about painting, not about belief, as many readers seem to think.

Yeah, what about Dali anyway. What was he, chopped liver? Especially since his rip is (I think) right down at the mellon.

Actually, I think Dali's painting of the crucifixion was better.

"Meanwhile, Satan's evil trinity shaum, carstonio and coloradodog conspire to persecute ccnl1 by calling him on his incessant, repetitive cutting and pasting."

Not me. I haven't said a thing about it and I don't intend to.

"Actually, I think Dali's painting of the crucifixion was better."

Which one, Farnaz? There are at least three. The most famous one, the unfolded hypercube for a cross, and with the woman looking on, is fantastic. I wish I could see that one for real.

Hmmm, Coloradodog is associating himself with the likes of "Schaum" and "Carstonio", two of On Faiths frequent imposter flyers. Could it be Coloradodog is actually Schaum and Carstonio who continue to violate blog rules and violate the ninth commandment of the Torah????

Keep in mind that On Faith is an anonymous blog and imposters abound.

As I close, for the final time. The Washington Post Weekend article on the National Gall,ery!!! was very good.

She's definately in the framework.

Arminius:
"Actually, I think Dali's painting of the crucifixion was better."

Which one, Farnaz? There are at least three. The most famous one, the unfolded hypercube for a cross, and with the woman looking on, is fantastic. I wish I could see that one for real.
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That is the one, Arminius. I, too, have never seen the original. Years ago, I was strolling in Greenwich Village, saw some posters on a stand and started to look through them. That is when I discovered the Dali Crucifixion.

Even the recollected image evokes a sense of timelessness.

As a fan of both "Lost" and BSG, I had a hard time choosing. I picked "Lost" because it was closer to DaVinci's original than the BSG one. Now, if they'd have had Sawyer with his shirt off, it would have been no contest! :D Besides, I've been a fan of Terry O'Quinn for years, and love what this show has done for his career.