How influential will anti-Muslim groups become?
By Michelle Boorstein
What is the future of the anti-Muslim movement in the United States?
For years there has been a small but passionate group of people concerned with the influence of Islam, and their activism seemed to be largely focused on blogging and lobbying political conservatives. But their presence -- and the arguments they raise -- seem to be coming into the broader sphere of late.
There's the fight over a mosque at the Ground Zero site, and this weekend the on-line electronic payment firm PayPal reportedly cut off the anti-Muslim blog Atlas Shrugs, saying it's a hate site.
Needless to say, this has prompted a roar from Atlas Shrugs supporters who see political bias.
Commentators across the spectrum, from the libertarian Becket Fund to the progressive Media Matters are asking: Where is this anti-Muslim movement going? How significantly will it steer the debate in this country about religious freedom and bias?
UPDATE: Ms. Geller and some of her supporters objected to us characterizing their comments as "anti-Islam." She wrote the following at the bottom of this post, for those who don't read the comments:
"I am not anti-Muslim. I love Muslims. I am pro-freedom and anti-islamic supremacism." (ironically, the next line is a threat to sue the Post)
One reader sent a recent report of her comments at a protest of the building of a mosque in lower Manhattan:
"We're not here today to condemn Muslims or Islam," but "to condemn the kind of mosque that will teach the very same radical ideology that gave birth to the 9/11 attacks." She reportedly went on to say that "building a mosque just several blocks away from Ground Zero is an insult and an afford to every single person that was killed on 9/11."
Michelle Boorstein
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Posted by: muslim1908 | June 14, 2010 12:25 PM
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What we need to be asking is, why is the ugly anti-Muslim speech being tolerated so passively by so many of us, and by our civic leaders? Isn't that a tacit endorsement of the hatred? How bad does it have to get before we object?
Posted by: busybee3 | June 14, 2010 4:48 PM
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What we need to ask is how our elected officials let things get this far. Stop the Islamification of America and stop the mosquerade in NYC near the WTC site.
Where is the outrage when the protestors carry signs declaring their intent to destroy the US, Israel and anyone else who doesn't submit to Islam?
Pam Geller and Robert Spencer are patriots who refused to succumb to the politically correct agenda and ignore what was in front of everyone's eyes.
The Cordoba House, exclusive of the questionable ties of Rauf, is simultaneously a show of contempt for the US and a symbol of conquest; it is a deliberate provocation. The location, naming and proposed date of dedication is proof of this.
Louisiana and Oklahoma have already prepared their anti-Sharia legislation, other states will follow. Americans will show that they still have some backbone.
Just say no. We have yet to concede defeat. The hypocrisy of calling Islam the religion of peace is not wasted upon us. Peace be upon you.
Posted by: uberqueenbee | June 14, 2010 5:20 PM
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And it does seem to be true that in countries where Islam is the majority religion, freedom of religion is hardly recognized. That's not bias - it seems to be fact.
Posted by: tpwebb3 | June 14, 2010 5:36 PM
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They're not anti-Muslim groups, they're anti-Islamist and anti-jihadi! Who's doing all the killing any bombings around the world anyway? Who's killing more innocent Mulsims than anyone else, be it in Pakistan, Iraq or Iran? Who's doing the "honor" killings? Are they all just "man-caused disasters" with no ideological motivation whatsoever?
There was a great distinction between Nazis and the good Germans who fought them, like the White Rose group. Many paid with their lives. What the WaPo and other over the cliff left-wing lemming media outfits would have us believe is the equivalent of calling all good Germans Nazis when they're doing no such thing. lastly, since when is voicing fact-based opinion, no matter how unpleasant those facts may be, reason for a cutoff of financial services in AMERICA?
Posted by: TheMadKing | June 14, 2010 7:18 PM
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Anti-muslim nonsense... Its more like anti-religion. PERIOD! Religion is the most corrupt institution in the known universe...
Posted by: demtse | June 14, 2010 7:43 PM
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From a poster above: "Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are anti-Muslim racists."
What race are Muslims?
Posted by: gmccal | June 14, 2010 8:07 PM
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muslim1908 wrote:
" Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are
anti-Muslim racists. The anti-Muslim
movement is no different than the
anti-Semitic movement."
How about the anti-NAZI movement?
Is that also no different than the anti-
Semitic movement? One has to
differentiate: Not everything is
identical/interchangeable with
everything else...
If one is speaking the truth about Islam
and Muslims happen to not like it, THAT
is indeed no different than speaking the
truth about NAZISM and NAZIS not liking
that. Is this what you were saying? Because
then I agree with you by all means. Look:
Islam is worse than NAZISM by every
definition you'd care to cite it under.
Or study the matter yourself. History
will speak the truth to you. You can
begin at:
S D Rodrian
Posted by: sdr1 | June 14, 2010 9:01 PM
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I hope anti muslim/anti terrorist groups spread across the globe and become a wide majority in every civilized country with the end result being all muslims are forced to return to their cesspools or origin and kept there.
Posted by: rcubedkc | June 14, 2010 9:46 PM
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The problem is Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller delibrately lie about Muslims. They are racists because they intentionally misrepresent and dehumanize Muslims. The Islam that Robert Spencer presents is entirely his own construction through cut-and-paste quotes. We could do the same thing to demonize the Talmud or even the Gospel.
Robert Spencer will never publish a peer-reviewed article in any scholarly journal about Islam because all serious scholars know that he is a bigot and psuedo-scholar. Dr. Carl Ernst, his own professor, has disowned him and warned people that he demonizes Muslims for political purposes, i.e. to justify wars in Iraq/Iran.
Spencer has been totally debunked and exposed for the intolerant, hateful bigot he is:
Posted by: muslim1908 | June 14, 2010 10:06 PM
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Tolerance for absurdity is a crime. Believe in a just supreme being is an absurdity.
Posted by: ThishowIseeit | June 14, 2010 10:31 PM
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"From a poster above: "Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are anti-Muslim racists."
What race are Muslims?
Posted by: gmccal | June 14, 2010 8:07 PM"
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The majority of Muslims are Arabs, thus Semites. So in a way, this is pretty anti-Semitic. Sorry if that's too much for you to handle.
It is absolute hate speech. Just read some of the comments above. The majority of Muslims are moderate, yet, you people want to engage in collective punishment of the few that engage in jihad.
Read the comment from RCUBEDKC:
"I hope anti muslim/anti terrorist groups spread across the globe and become a wide majority in every civilized country with the end result being all muslims are forced to return to their cesspools or origin and kept there."
So, you're telling me that this kind of hate speech is acceptable? Now replace the word "Muslim" with "Jew" in the paragraph above. Does that hate speech sound familiar? Are you okay with that? If you want to hate Muslims, that's fine, you're a bigot. Just don't try to lie to us and delude yourself into thinking that you're not a bigot.
Posted by: ClandestineBlaze | June 14, 2010 11:30 PM
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Muslims are quite ignorant about intolerance. Jews have been the number one target of religious hate crimes even since the muslim inspired 9-11. Clue for ya, in America it is legal to hate Muslims - deal with it!!
Posted by: moongod | June 14, 2010 11:32 PM
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The flawed logic here is that you must hate Muslims if you factually point out your dislike for Muslim extremists. BTW I don't see jews flying planes into buildings.
how come no outrage of more Muslim murdering Muslim with the uzbeks? what side are muslims on? how 'bout the Iran/Iraq 10 yr war? a million casualties
Posted by: moongod | June 14, 2010 11:38 PM
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With so many Muslim theocracies for Muslims to live under, why on earth do they want to be in the U.S. anyway? Their religion does not fit into American culture by any stretch of the imagination. Those who don't hate us mostly come here to make $$$ ... not to support this country and what it stands for.
Posted by: paris1969 | June 15, 2010 12:37 AM
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@ClandestineBlaze
"The majority of Muslims are Arabs, thus Semites. So in a way, this is pretty anti-Semitic. Sorry if that's too much for you to handle."
Just to offer you some FACTS so that you can set your WARPED MIND straight:
The MAJORITY of MUSLIMS on this EARTH are NON-ARABS:
INDONESIA + BRUNEI + MALAYSIA = > 200 Million
Bangladesh = c.160 million
Pakistan = c. 170 million
India = c.140 million
Afghanistan = 27-30 million
Central Asia + Iran = find out for yourself
Subsaharan Africa = ditto
Trinidad & Tobago [of Indian descent] =?
NONE of these = Arab
GOT THAT STRAIGHT?
These make up the majority of the billion-odd Muslims in the world. Keep your nonsensical arguments to yourself. Anti-Semitism is a term reserved for Anti-Jewish propaganda. Your twisted arguments are an example of ANTI-SEMITISM. GOT THAT CLEAR?
Until your Arabs are removed from Palestine and elsewhere and strictly confined to the Arabian Peninsula, there can be no peace for humanity.And I am neither a Jew nor a Zionist!!
Posted by: bosc817 | June 15, 2010 12:54 AM
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As a private entity, paypal is perfectly free to reject any user at any time for any reason, that's just "the free market" at work in all its glory.
Posted by: kingcranky | June 15, 2010 1:03 AM
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If Islam indeed is a religion of PEACE, why did it it need to send as its emissaries Muhammad bin Qasim [c.712] on its eastern foray into Sindh, and another general to lead the western sweep into Iraq? Did Buddhism send armies to spread its message over vast tracts of the CIVILIZED [emphasis]world? Or just a few UNARMED monks wearing a single robe made of rags, dependent on the charity of strangers?
Please refer to WILL DURANT, someone admired by Ayatollah KHAMENEI ["Will Durant's The Pleasures of Philosophy was another one of Khamenei's favorites. He said about it, "This book is like poetry and he [Durant] turns a philosophy book into a sweet and delicious dish for the reader." http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LF10Ak01.html] to understand what ISLAM did in the Indian subcontinent.
Surely, Durant was not a frothing-at-the- mouth right wing Hindu revivalist who can easily be dismissed!!
Will Durant. The Story of Civilization, Vol. I, Our Oriental Heritage, New York, 1972.
# Elliot, Sir H. M., Edited by Dowson, John. The History of India, as Told by Its Own Historians. The Muhammadan Period; published by London Trubner Company 1867–1877. (Online Copy: The History of India, as Told by Its Own Historians. The Muhammadan Period; by Sir H. M. Elliot; Edited by John Dowson; London Trubner Company 1867–1877 - This online Copy has been posted by: The Packard Humanities Institute; Persian Texts in Translation; Also find other historical books: Author List and Title List)
# Koenraad Elst: Negationism in India - Concealing the record of Islam [3], [4]
# François Gautier: Rewriting Indian History Chapter 4, Chapter 5, doc-format
# K.S. Lal: The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India [5]
# Misra, Ram Gopal, Indian Resistance to Early Muslim Invaders up to AD 1206, Meerut City, 1983.
# Arun Shourie: Eminent Historians: Their Technology, Their Line, Their Fraud. New Delhi, 1998.
Posted by: bosc817 | June 15, 2010 1:21 AM
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I am not anti-Muslim.
I love Muslims. I am pro-freedom and anti-islamic supremacism.
Stop the slander and defamation. It's an incitement to violence.
Do it again and I am going to sue you.
Yours in liberty,
Pamela Geller
Atlas Shrugs
SIOA
FDI
Posted by: Pamela_Geller | June 15, 2010 2:27 AM
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dunno where I read - a good muslim is a dead muslim.
Posted by: pulakguy | June 15, 2010 5:44 AM
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OOOOOH, Paypal's effort/anklegrabbing was a swing and a miss. See, you've gotta love the people's voice, don't ya? Once in a blue moon it really is effectual. Too bad PP's excuse for its "mistake" was too little/too late (too late: a concept lost on sympathizers of the likes of CAIR). I love how some of the geniuses posting here are focused on Pam G. Fortunately there are informed folks who pointed out the fact that PP is in bed with sites such as RevolutionMuslim dot com. Wake up libs, these nutjobs hate you more than folks that actually have their number; in fact, they see their opponents as infidels, but they see YOU fools as infidels that are so stupid, you actually advocate for them.
Posted by: meeg1972 | June 15, 2010 5:58 AM
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There are Moslems who are "Islamists" and Moslems who are not. There are moderate Moslems in places such as Indonesia--which just sentenced to long prison terms a bunch of Islamist terrorists--and there are Islamist Moslems such as the Taliban, bin Laden, and the "9/11" terrorists. I see no reason to tar them all with the same brush. I think they should be considered on a case-by-case basis. After all, this is America, where people, including Moslems, are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, right?
Posted by: avi31547 | June 15, 2010 6:06 AM
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"The Mohammadan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within." - Will Durant
Thiagan
Posted by: manjulathiagarajan | June 15, 2010 6:10 AM
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uberqueenbee:
Amen. Well said.
Posted by: meeg1972 | June 15, 2010 7:12 AM
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Ah the tolerant Left !
Does the Left support Sharia law for Muslim women in Britian ? Now home to 85 Sharia courts according to the Guardian newspaper.
Does the Left support the 15th-floor Cordoba Mosque overlooking Ground Zero ? to be opened on the 10th Anniversary of 9/11 ? funded wealthy Saudis ? and celebrated by radical Islamists ?
Does the Left support the recent now-repealed policy of the American Academy of Pediatrics that American doctors be given permission to perform a ceremonial “nick” on girls to keep their families from sending them overseas for FGM (female genital mutilation) ?
Ah the modern tolerant dhimmi Left.
It makes no sense: gay feminist secular hedonists making common cause with homophobic misogynist proscriptive theocrats. Who knew ?
Posted by: Petras123 | June 15, 2010 7:20 AM
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"The problem is Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller deliberately lie about Muslims."
And that says it all. One needn't lie to delineate Islam's deficiencies. The truth is enough. Lying shows cowardice and an ignorant inability to articulate the truth.
And please get rid of that stupid picture of John, Rick, and Barack.
Posted by: therev1 | June 15, 2010 7:52 AM
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What is the future of the anti-Muslim movement in the United States?
For years there has been a small but passionate group of people concerned with the influence of Islam,
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Nice, subtle linguistic shift there.
I love Muslims and wish whole-heartedly to free them from their intellectually stifling faith.
Posted by: WmarkW | June 15, 2010 8:36 AM
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I just visited ATlas Shrugs for the first time. It announces that "PayPal Caved," which is evidently the case since the caving, as it were, has been reported elsewhere on the web.
Posted by: farnaz_mansouri2 | June 15, 2010 8:38 AM
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Let's be fair with all organized religions, say Charles Silver and Filomela Klorotis, both devout and highly educated christians. Organized religions' latent or explicit long-term goal is theocracy, their dream regime. Their dream, ponder Silver and Klorotis, is the contemporary democrat's worst nightmare.
Posted by: gpcarvalho | June 15, 2010 9:00 AM
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Islam is Fascism.Liberate Muslims from it.If they don,t want it,let them have their own world under their own Allah,leaving others to live in peace.
Charvaka
Posted by: drjrrao | June 15, 2010 9:03 AM
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CLANDESTINEBLAZE said concerning my comment "It is absolute hate speech."
No, it is not, it is a reaction to the terrorist attacks by the mad dog muslims that have infected the civilized world.
They have proven time and again that they are incapable of living with themselves or anyone else for that matter. If they want to continue killing everyone that disagrees with their murderous cult they call a religion, they should be forced out of every civilized country and back to the cesspools of their own creation.
You may not like my opinions but that's your problem, not mine.
Read it and weep blaze.
Posted by: rcubedkc | June 15, 2010 9:29 AM
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Only when Mecca and Medina are reduced to glass will there be peace between Islam and the civilized world. The only good Muslim is a non-breathing Muslim.
Posted by: Disgusted | June 15, 2010 9:57 AM
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I'm a liberal and pro-gay marriage, and I'm for more help to disadvantaged minorities, etc.
But looking at polling data from majority Muslim countries, Islamic religious practices, and the Koran, I have concluded that the Muslim faith is currently not compatible with a modern, global civilization. The canon of Muslim dogma is rife with calls to martyrdom, forced conversion, and intolerance.
Without a vast reformation of the Muslim faith (which I don't see happening soon), the Islamic culture, especially in the Middle East, has only the superficial trappings of modernity surrounding a core of bronze age, obsolete morality. Note that the long-past, brief Islamic Golden Age occurred during an uncharacteristic period of religious tolerance and liberalism. There is a reason these metrics go hand-in-hand with prosperity.
Almost all religions, including Christianity, are holding back the progress of humanity toward a more balanced and ethical framework that can address the issues of our modern world. But Islam is by far the most egregious throwback.
I don't understand why this would be a "racist" argument. I'm against a set of socially destructive ideas, beliefs and actions, not an ethnic group.
Honestly, I think peak oil will solve our problems in the long term. Once the oil is gone, we can remove all of our military bases from the Middle East. Our bases have been distracting them from their own meaningless conflicts.
Posted by: platypus_chutney | June 15, 2010 10:10 AM
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A continuation from above:
Note that there are likely many secularists and liberals in Muslim countries. They simply can't speak up or they will be exiled or executed. Still, I would welcome them with open arms. Turkey itself is an outlier example of a fairly liberal Muslim country. So, the changes are possible.
It is the culture and not the ethnic group that I take issue with.
Posted by: platypus_chutney | June 15, 2010 10:14 AM
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Islam is NOT a race. It's an ideology and if you want to see how poisoned it's become pick up any news paper any day and take a look... today
Islamic extremists execute 2 people for watching the world cup soccer games. Over 20 others to be publicly whipped for it.
Iranian clerics demand the right to defend ISLAM ... That's right ISLAM not IRAN with nuclear weapons.
There is never a day this poisoned ideology is not making headline news. This has NOTHING to do with race whatsoever. The problems FROM ISLAM never end. Wake up people.
Posted by: deelynn16 | June 15, 2010 10:26 AM
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Why are we limiting this to anti-Islam? Can't we just have a general anti-religion group? We should treat all superstitions the same way.
Posted by: thesilverback | June 15, 2010 11:14 AM
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It is strange and pity that those who are
branding Islam and all Muslims as violent and terrorists, have very short memories and poor knowledge of History.In every religion we have good people and bad people.In the last hundred years CHRISTIANS have killed more than
one hundred MILLION people, mostly CHRISTIANS and JEWS.This does not mean that Christian Religion is bad. Jews have been burnt alive by Christians, where as ARABS and Muslims Protected them and gave them shelter.
Look what CHRITIANS did to the NATIVE people of south and norh AMERICA,GENOCIDE.
How the so called CHRISTIANS ENSLAVED Millions of Africans.Christians have done the most Cruel and inhumane things to people of all faiths.Christians are living
in the past.They want to DOMINATE other people like they did in the past, but things are adversly changing for them. Now, all the oppressed people are rising against the past colonialists. Countries like China, India, Brazil are marching ahead along with the Muslims.The past oppressors like Spain, Britain, France and Potugal are in deep decline so is U.S.A. It is a shame that we have to Borrow money from Communist China to fight wars of choice and kill poor people in Asia.
Posted by: swasimjafry | June 15, 2010 12:26 PM
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Islam will be a religion of peace when Mecca and Medina become smoking craters. That is how we should deal with bronze-age savages.
Posted by: Disgusted | June 15, 2010 12:43 PM
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Islam is responsible for more deaths than any other thing. Above 270,000,000. 70,000,000 Indians. 120,000,000 Africans during the 1400 yrs they controlled the slave trade. Yes that is right it was muslims that enslaved and destroyed Africa where they still enslave non muslims. How any black man could be a muslim totally confuses me. Turkey has the Blue mosqe which was a christian church. Where did kosovo and Bosnia come from??? Islam is tyhe true problem of the entire world. Wherever muslims outnumber non muslims there will always be bloodshed.
Thank God for SIOE and any group like them.
STOP ALL MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW!!!!
Posted by: yolo40 | June 15, 2010 12:48 PM
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"how 'bout the Iran/Iraq 10 yr war? a million casualties" --- Now let me ask a few questions. How about the two world wars in which untold millions were killed by whom? How about the two nukes on Japan, dropped by whom? How about the three million Vietnamese killed by whom? How about the millions killed in Korea,k by whom? Good questions, No? And last but not least WHO exterminated the NATIVES of the Americas, Australis, New Zealand, etc. and taken over their lands?
Posted by: awabnavi | June 15, 2010 1:17 PM
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I refer to the post of "platypus_chutney | June 15, 2010 10:10 AM."
I am an immigrant to the US, deeply socially liberal and tolerant, and have advocated against broad condemnation of Muslims in the past. However, my tolerance has been eroded over the last 15 years as I watch in horror at what Islam has wrought.
Thank you, platypus_chutney, for saving me the effort of typing; your post summarized my position exactly. I would add only a couple of points that I didn't think you touched on:
First, the murderous misogyny of radical Islam. I cannot tolerate a religion which reduces women to mere chattle, giving men the legal power of life and death over them. I condemn Christian and Jewish sects of similar atrocities, but Islam is the one I am reading about on a daily basis (think "honor" killings and female genital mutulation). Unacceptable.
Second, the expectation of immigrant Muslim communities around the world that they will merely establish strongholds in which their religion, culture and laws will supercede the host country's. UNacceptable.
I think that anti-Muslim sentiment is going continue to grow, not only here but everywhere; it is becoming a matter of cultural survival.
Posted by: Orsalia | June 15, 2010 1:20 PM
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Pam Geller, get over yourself, you're no martyr, just a knuckle-dragging slug who can't take the same kind of strong language, vitriol and histrionics that you dish out, which is why Charles Johnson smartly disassociated his blog from yours.
And the rest of your diseased ilk proudly bloviating their hatred in this thread are no better than those they criticize.
No one religion is more legitimate than another, they're all a matter of belief, not fact.
Posted by: kingcranky | June 15, 2010 1:20 PM
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For those who see Muslims as the enemy, I urge you to see socio-economics as much as an issue, as well as tolerancce for others. 20 men were indocrinated by hatred to bomb America and we are seeing an extension of that in Jihad in our wars in the Middle East. But get to know your local muslim neighbors in America and see that they want the same thigs you do - decent schools, safe neighborhoods, stable jobs. Muslims are no differant from Christians, the disposessed will still lash out, the reactionary groups will still be full of hate. Defuse that and invite them in for what you share, not what separates you.
Posted by: cadam72 | June 15, 2010 2:13 PM
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Sigh . . . .
Religious people who actually believe that THEIR particular man-made "God" is THE only True "God" are now, and ALWAYS have been Society's and Civilization's WORST enemy.
Madness and Ignorance - like fortune tellers, so-called "ghost" and ghost-hunters, Astrologers, horoscopes, crystal balls, "magnetic" healing bracelets, etc.
Superstitious nonsense - taken advantage of by TV evangelists, priests of ALL religions, to the detriment of mankind!
Posted by: lufrank1 | June 15, 2010 3:04 PM
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The activities of muslims and not the propaganda efforts of their supporters will determine the opinion Americans have and will have of islam. Let their be more bombings by muslims like those in Madrid and London and New York and Mombai and many others and the many plots that have been uncovered and only fools would continue to maintain that islam is no threat. Any person or group that insists on trying to kill us will get what they deserve. It's really as simple as that.
Posted by: mhr614 | June 15, 2010 3:30 PM
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I have a real problem with any "religion" whose dogma includes the destruction of other religions!
It may be the radical muslims that are getting the press coverage - but why aren't the "moderate" muslims decrying the beheadings, homicide bombings and hiding their fighters behind women and children??!?!
Posted by: thornegp2626 | June 15, 2010 3:44 PM
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Why do I think that all activist atheists will be labeled "Anti-Muslim?"
I have met some people who are anti-Muslim but very few compared to the number of people who are against BOTH the Right Wing Christian Moral Majority and Right Wing Muslims.
Posted by: bbcrock | June 15, 2010 4:19 PM
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Muslims suck. That's all there is to it. As soon as a WMD goes off on US soil, people will go ape. A muslim life won't be worth a plug nickel. I'll be in the vanguard with my trusty Ka-Bar, lopping off their stinking heads - every last one of them including women, children and old people. This has got to be done.
Posted by: adrienne_najjar | June 15, 2010 4:25 PM
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Alex, I'll take "Suicide Bombers Named 'Brad'" for 500...400?...300?...200?...
Posted by: hofbrauhausde | June 15, 2010 4:34 PM
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As long as there's a well funded movement to spread Wahhabist Islam, freedom loving people everywhere MUST fight it passionately. Moderate Muslims themselves are fighting this pervasive influence that has been gathering more and more strength with oil money. There is nothing anti-Muslim about efforts to combat extremists who profess their fascist terror in the name of Islam. For the first time, men and women in traditionally moderate Muslim-majority countries like Malaysia are being canned and jailed for drinking beer. Islam is the ONLY religion that has a police force to enforce rules made up by the local Islamic council. If it is the religion of peace, why is so much punishment meted out to its own followers? Why is a Muslim not allowed to depart Islam, under punishment of death? Wake up Americans. Islam is NOT the same as other religions.
Posted by: legitbrownie | June 15, 2010 5:20 PM
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"but why aren't the "moderate" muslims decrying the beheadings, homicide bombings and hiding their fighters behind women and children??!?!"
You answered your own question. Its very hard to get the press, or anyone else for that matter, to pay attention to you if you're a moderate--even if moderates are in the majority. The Tea Partiers, the Earth First'ers, Hamas--all get much more press than warranted given their small numbers.
Posted by: youba | June 15, 2010 5:22 PM
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"but why aren't the "moderate" muslims decrying the beheadings, homicide bombings and hiding their fighters behind women and children??!?!"
Unfortunately, a common tactic of control is thuggery. "Moderate" Muslims are being bullied and subjugated to extreme pressure to toe the line of the extremists. Muslims are not allowed to question the teachings or what some cleric professes. So as Wahhabists take over mosques (with their money), the moderate preachers are being pushed out. This period of Islam is equivalent to the dark ages of Christianity when illiterates were merely told what was presumably in the holy book. Most Muslims have never read the Koran because they do not read Arabic. Translations are forbidden (one of many forbidden activities as part of the control and command procedures).
Posted by: legitbrownie | June 15, 2010 6:26 PM
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there is no place in the western hemisphere for muslims...period.
Posted by: OldSalt8 | June 15, 2010 6:48 PM
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No secular person from western civilization with any sense could advocate the importation of the muslim social cancer. These scum bring their Dark Ages desert stuff along with a diproportionate number of terrorist attacks or incidents and expect the people taking them in to adapt to their backward ways. I loathe these vermin as well as the stupid PC scum who defend them. Muslims, why don't you just stay out of the unenlightened West and live any way you like in your muslim toilets. And PC "usefull idiots", fell free to migrate to these lands of peace and enjoy!
Posted by: jm125 | June 15, 2010 6:56 PM
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What does it take to convince liberals that there is such a thing as enemies? There are millions of Muslims dedicated to the idea that our way of life is evil in the eyes of Allah and must be snuffed out to make way for one world of Islam under sharia.
Not every single Muslim believes in pursuing the caliphate, but not every German was a heartfelt follower of Hitler either. It doesn't matter; there are enough.
The jihadists' greatest allies are the goofy liberals who think kumbaya will solve any differences.
Posted by: BerkeleyBW | June 15, 2010 8:41 PM
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Michelle Boorstein, did you know that Adolf Hitler met with Grand Mufti of Jerusalem before the Auschwitz ? (This I read on Newsweek.)
Posted by: DebChatterjee | June 16, 2010 12:20 AM
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What is happening in America regarding the rising anti-Islamic fervor is both disturbing and fascinating. As a revert to Islam, embracing Islam as an adult, freely and after a thorough evaluation using the intellectual capacities given by God, I naturally find the 'skin-head', emotionally charged Islamophobic trend disturbing, yet, what I find fascinating is the fear some have that Islamic sharia could actually influence state and federal government. I don't believe that would ever happen, yet, Islam continues to grow, gaining adherents who choose to embrace freely despite the tremendous efforts being made to defeat God's religion. This is due to the fact that Islam is self-perpetuating, a sign of its divine nature. With certain people spewing venom against Islam and Muslims, then finding Americans embracing it, how can you explain that?
Posted by: Muslimbychoice | June 16, 2010 12:59 AM
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One single fact remains; Islam is growing globally despite the psychotic efforts to defeat it. The PEW foundation found approximately 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide. Despite the concerted, 'steroid' loaded efforts that surely consume some of these individuals who wish to destroy Islam and Muslims, people are willfully embracing Islam, often without help or prodding, just reading online, watching the beautiful manners of a good Muslim they know or after reading the rants of the 'rantors', and knowing that is coming from deep seated phobias and allegiances to others. This is the self-perpetuating nature of Islam and another sign of its divine nature.
Posted by: Muslimbychoice | June 16, 2010 1:07 AM
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i think many especially christian see the rampant anti-muslim writings and they think this is how religion of islam is fact is there is nothing muslim about the violent actions of so called muslims.muslims since earliest respected both christianity and judaism as religions from GOD and shown that they can live togather in peace.muslims are even more close to jews if only palestinian conflict can be resolved
Posted by: xavier995 | June 16, 2010 8:45 AM
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For all of you linking Islam to other religions, you should stop. I'm a Christian and it is an actual religion of peace. I know Obama and all the libs like to call islam a "religion of peace". But the Bible says you'll know them by the fruit of their ways. Well on 9/11 I saw 220 stories of fruit crash to the ground and kill 3,000 lives. If you are a true Muslim and follow the teachings of the koran, you cannot exist in the U.S. without being put into prison. Read the koran, see for yourselves. It's an evil book. Now in Christianity we have moral absolutes. (homosexuality, murder, theft, adultery, etc.) But a Christian is supposed to point out where the sin is, but still love and welcome the sinner. Because we all sin. A Christian's job is to SPEAK the gospel and let God do the rest. A Muslim is to tell you about Allah and KILL you if you won't convert. Read the koran, it's in there.
Posted by: Jaytoday10 | June 16, 2010 9:43 AM
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Michelle don't be intimidated by this flood of Geller-ites. Many of whom regularly post on her insane blog calling for the annihilation of Muslims.
She is anti-Muslim. This "I love Muslims" is really deception (something she regularly projects onto Muslims). She hates Muslims and Islam.
She calls Barack Obama our "first Muslim president"
She called for the Golden Dome in Jerusalem to be "destroyed."
She called for nuking "Mecca, Medina and Tehran."
I can go on and on, but please read this,
http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/08/pamela-geller-the-looniest-blogger-ever/
They have the goods on her.
Posted by: BocaGorda | June 16, 2010 12:55 PM
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Add Pakistan to the list of countries that Geller and her friend Spencer want to see "wiped off the map,"
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/03/pamela-geller-and-robert-spencer-wipe-pakistan-off-the-map/
Posted by: BocaGorda | June 16, 2010 12:59 PM
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In every anti Muslim discussion the Muslim supporters comments always attempt to pull in the Jews and Christians into the discussion although the discussion is only about Islam.
As it to say if Islam is at fault the so to are the Jews and the Christians.
In my view this shoes the cunningness on the Muslim hoping to condem all for the acts of Islam, attempting to put falt on all others for the acts of his wicked religion.
All the more reasons I can't stand Islam and those who lie and mislead for the promotion of it.
Posted by: RedHogg | June 20, 2010 9:02 AM
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Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are anti-Muslim racists. The anti-Muslim movement is no different than the anti-Semitic movement.