Did Obama set the right tone with his speech in Indonesia?

President Obama's words, tone and sincerity were 'right on'. It is imparative that the US take a constructive and honest approach in estaablishing a living partnership with the Muslem eorld.

No one wants a conflict with the Muslim people or nations. All, but a very few want to live in peace. Yet, moderate Muslims through out the world remain silent about the terrorists. Why?

The commander in chef did his usual pander to the Muslim community with an attack on Israel. The fact that Israeli people are NOT welcome in the country should have been addressed.Who does this guy think that he speaks for?

America may not be at war with the Muslim world, but the Muslim world most certainly is at war with us. Obama fails to grasp that distinction, and uses Israel as a scapegoat for all that the Muslim world hates about America. Even when there is peace between Israel and Palestine, Muslim extremists will continue their attacks on the western world. They hate us, period, and nothing will change despite the billions handed out to change their hearts and minds. Time to bring our military home and use our taxpayer dollars to win the hearts and minds of the Americans.

The conflict over Palestine is a clash between two nationalisms. What is striking in Scott Wilson's piece is how the Indonesian opinion he cites ignores local/regional factors and casts this only in terms of Islam. This gives credence to the view that a religious agenda precludes any acceptance of Israel (within whatever borders) as a legitimate state. While I applaud the President's efforts to promote understanding between Americans and Muslim majorities, I think it is a mistake not to address the very real problem of Muslim discrimination against and even persecution of Christians--it is a serious problem in most Muslim majority countries. Even where the governments of such countries have laws against discrimination or persecution, my impression is that in most cases they do little to prevent it.

We are no more at war with the "Muslim World" (as SamWoods77 has asserted) than we have a lot in common with Israeli extremists. We may be at war with Extremists, but that would include extremists of every religious persuasian and those of NO religious persuasian at all, including extremists in our own country. Be careful, Mr. SamWoods 77, of tarring a whole religion with the brush of your own ignorance. I have no desire to be represented to the rest of the world who might believe Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist Church represent American Christianity. I'm sure Muslims might resent your doing the same to them and their faith.

There are posters who claim not to hate Islam but that Muslims hate us; "so why not return hate with hate"? The terrorists (Muslim, Christian or Jewish) thrive on hate; the more asserted, the easier it is for them to get their hatred across. We can tone down our rhetoric and we can encourage tolerance. As an answer to the common argument "but they are just as bad as some of us" (point the finger), I suggest not following the Devil but exhibiting the better angels in all of us.

ADELEF, we don't have angels in us if we are Believers in Jesus. Angels can be with us; but, only the Holy Spirit can be in us as Believers.

I imagine that each and every Republican is cheering him on.

The president also repeated a message he promoted in Cairo: "America is not and never will be at war with Islam."
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What arrogance!!
When we are faced with a "religion" that is sworn to destroy us, some kind of war is inevitable!!
Unless barry destroys us first!!

The "Muslim world" is not at war with "us." First of all, there is no us" except when viewed through the myopic eyes of those who think the world is made up entirely of Christian white people. Yes, portions of the Muslim world are at war against not only the US but other countries. Yet not all Muslims believe in this, just as not all Christians thought the Crusades to be correct.

I contunually hear Christians complain about being persecuted and martyred for their beliefs -- using statistics that even the websites reporting them admit cannot be accurately assembled -- while conveniently ignoring the numbers of non-Christians martryed for their beliefs over thousands of years.

It's to the point where Christians take "Happy Holidays" as a form of persecution, while they never think that insisting that "It's Christmas" may persecute -- their term -- Jews and others who don't buy into the Christian theology.

I used to be surprised to see so many Christians espouse the philosophy of returning hate with hate. No more.

Indeed, if you believe the story of Jesus, he went to his death returning hate with love. I don't recall his saying, "I ain't getiin' up on no cross till you all repent."

You don't have to be Christian to understand that hate, vituperativeness, and revenge destroy your soul from within.

Something like half of humanity are infected with christianity and islam. The lunatics among this half of humanity seem hell-bent on having a holy war, how are we ever going to survive the murder they're going to commit against each other.

It doesn't look promising does it.

This article failed to mention that a CBS News report has confirmed that Obama's first religion is Muslim . The report said "When he arrived in Indonesia at age 6, he first enrolled the St. Francis of Assisi Catholics School. The headmaster at the school showed CBS News the documents - that "Muslim" was filled in under "religion" in his enrollment papers. School officials say it was standard practice to give the religion of a students father, and young Barry's stepfather was a Muslim ."

Since St. Ronald Reagan destroyed the Communists single handidly, "Christians" no longer have godless Communists to scapegoat as a common enemy to rally the hapless masses.

Demonizing gays and Mexicans is now passe so they have turned their Hitler logic on the Muslims.

The report said "When he arrived in Indonesia at age 6, he first enrolled the St. Francis of Assisi Catholics School. The headmaster at the school showed CBS ...

Yes, I'm quite sure the guys at St. Francis of Assisi were determined to teach Obama about the wonders of Islam.

President Obama has to make those "we are not at war with Islam" inanities, while on a state visit to a Islamic country. As long as we have diplomatic relations with the OIC counties, the visits to one of them are inevitable. So it bothers me little. However, when he is a visit, he is going there fro secular purposes. He is not a head of the church or temple as the British Monarch is supposed to be. Therefore, he should eschew going to places of worship of any faith or denomination. Especially, since he declined to go to a Sikh temple in India. This visit to the Mosque is considered to be a double insult in India.

To all the liberals and progressives, be they be entirely secularists or of faith. This so called moderate Islamic state requires that every one in public wear a headscarf, even the visitors and the dignitaries. This ought to tell you how one-way street this accommodation with the Muslims is. I know I hear you saying, we are not them our standards are different. That is just a cop out. We are not intolerant, when we require that the immigrants adhere to certain norms of decorum. How is requiring certain not wearing hijab or burqa in public places is being intolerant? Or an employer requiring certain dress code for totally secular reasons. their requirements are not for any secular purposes such as security or safety at work or public place. their requirements are totally driven by religion. Same thing employers being required by law to make accommodations to ones religious proclivities. I as a business owner should have the right not to be subjected to accommodate to my employees religious proclivities. All I need to be required is that I do not discriminate against people for their religious proclivities.

Although President Obama spoke in Jakarta to praise "diversity," "religious tolerance," "democracy" and "moderate Islam" and "Muslim communities," he did not refer to Aceh, the region of Indonesia where sharia law prevails, including stoning of adulterers. There is a contradiction in what he says about Islam and our goals in the war on terror. It is not possible to conduct such a war in defense against jihadist caliphate Muslims after 9/11 without realizing that democracy can conflict with what others see as human rights, and that in Islamic republics or regions or others where there is no separation of church and state, there is no "diversity" or "religious tolerance" or freedom as he claims, and no possibility of modernizing such communities along American economic, political, or social lines such as relativistic multiculturalism.

Typical, craven pandering from a President who is far more effusive about Islam than he is about the country which elected him. Most Americans, I would wager, find the suggestion that we need to "reach out" to the "muslim world" offensive. I still await the apology from muslims for the littany of security checks I have to go through to board a plane these days. As I await the expressions of gratitude for our aid to muslim countries, our defense of muslim lives in Europe and the Middle East, and the technology that daily improves their lives. Yet, of course, it will be a cold day in Jakarta before we hear these. Let Obama apologize and bow before whoever he wishes. But let him keep me, and this nation, out of it.

I don't think obama set a tone; he's setting an agenda, and it is self-indulgent and inappropriate. Why is a POTUS so focused on religion, and just one religion? Why is his outreach so focused on one part of the world? He's not taking care of business -- literally and figuratively -- at home. Instead, he's basking in the adulation, real or imagined, in what he considers his spiritual home. I wish he'd stay there. I'm serious. We need leadership in the U.S., and he is not providing it.

Obama is trying to appease the Muslim world. Islam hates non-muslims. All muslim countries, members of OIC, have laws that hate and discriminate against non-muslims. Obama could have chosen to speak out against the hate and violence that the non-muslims face in the muslim world on a daily basis. He could have used his bully pulpit to highlight the hateful laws in the muslim countries against the non-muslims in those countries, and contrast them with the freedoms that the Kafir West provides to its Muslim citizens. Obama chose to ignore all that evil and instead he praises Islam and feeds the egos of the muslims in the hope that he will be able to isolate the support for the jihadists among the muslims. He appeases evil and has chosen to sacrifice millions of Kafirs in muslim countries. His appeasement will not work, because he refuses to confront the ideology that drives those who wish to kill us. Most muslims do not agree with the violent means being used by the jihadist, but they do agree with the ideology and goals that drives the jihadists. Unless the West faces the ideology and delegitimizes it, the jihadist will always be able to recruit muslims from the "moderate" crowd. What else explains the easy radicalisation of "lone wolves" in the west who have good lives and are well educated? Appeasement will not work. Ignoring the evil that Islam wrecks on non-muslims around the world will not work.

"This article failed to mention that a CBS News report has confirmed that Obama's first religion is Muslim . The report said "When he arrived in Indonesia at age 6, he first enrolled the St. Francis of Assisi Catholics School. The headmaster at the school showed CBS News the documents - that "Muslim" was filled in under "religion" in his enrollment papers. School officials say it was standard practice to give the religion of a students father, and young Barry's stepfather was a Muslim ."
Posted by: ypcchiu | November 10, 2010 12:06 PM"

Religious beliefs are not passed through DNA. Or am I actually Catholic like my mother and don't know it? No wait, maybe I caught Episcopalianism from my Dad's side. Oh yeah, let me check for a box that some beaurocrat checked 40 years ago on a school entrance form. The fact that you think you've made your point shows that you have no point at all.

Duhneese writes: "Religious beliefs are not passed through DNA. Or am I actually Catholic like my mother and don't know it? No wait, maybe I caught Episcopalianism from my Dad's side. Oh yeah, let me check for a box that some beaurocrat checked 40 years ago on a school entrance form."

What that checked box shows that one of the Dreams from his Father might be a distorted view of and inability to look honestly at his father's religion. Obama by his words and speech has shown a remarkable partiality for Islam. He praises Islam at the cost of the misery and sub human treatment of the non-muslims living in the muslim countries. He turns a total blind eye to the evil that is done by Islam to Kafirs who are at its mercy in the OIC countries.
Ashley correctly parses Obama's words
http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2010/11/indonesia_isnt_as_tolerant_as_obama_would_have_us_believe.html
"Just as the president has come under fire for replacing the broad principle of freedom of religion with the far-narrower "freedom of worship," he should be scrutinized for supplanting religious freedom with religious tolerance."

In both instances Obama chose the view of his Father's faith and not the ideals of the people he leads. So is he a Muslim? Do Americans really mean freedom of worship instead of freedom of religion. The Kafirs in the muslims countries are free to worship silently in their homes, but they do not have freedom of religion. Do we "tolerate" other faiths in America as the muslims tolerate religions of the book in muslim countries? Should an American President be blurring the ideals of the American Constitution to appease the followers of the faith of his father?

All of us have to prostrate before their God and Obama has already done his part in front of the King

President Obama spoke the language of a Politician....saying actually nothing and answering nothing.

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD -- whether you call Him God, Jehovah, Allah or The Great Spirit/Father as the American Indians called Him.

LIKEWISE THERE IS ONLY ONE SON OF GOD and that is Jesus Christ who lives and sits on the Right hand of God The Father. All other leaders are dead and buried...including Mohammud, Budda, etc.
Read John 3:16 in the Holy Bible.

The message of God The Father is Love, Not Hate and any religion that teaches Hate does not come from God.

Funny thing, I haven't seen mention of Indonesia's insane, delusional anti-Jewish racism. Did I miss Obama's remarks on that?

Oh, and did I miss his comments on gay hatred in Indonesia, the genocide of the West Papuans?

Did I neglect to say that the words "pander" and "hypocrite" are defined in any pocket dictionary?

eecbell

You wrote, "LIKEWISE THERE IS ONLY ONE SON OF GOD and that is Jesus Christ who lives and sits on the Right hand of God The Father. All other leaders are dead and buried...including Mohammud, Budda, etc.
Read John 3:16 in the Holy Bible."

Then why did Jesus respond, when asked to teach His Apostles how to pray, "Our Father..."?

To be a child of God means to be a son or daughter, does it not?

You also wrote, "The message of God The Father is Love, Not Hate and any religion that teaches Hate does not come from God."

Jesus is both the Message and the Messenger of God since God is a Being of Pure Love which makes Jesus, Who Is God-Incarnate, Love-Incarnate.

God became One of us for All of us.

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.