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Somalia Islamists Should Be Stopped

Bashir Goth - Somalia for Somalis! Let them run their country as they please. Easy words to say but difficult to accept when it means beheading people for not praying five times a day, chopping hands of those who steal to stay alive in a country where mere survival is a lifelong ambition. Difficult to accept when women are shrouding and denied to breathe fresh air or go about their daily business to feed their children. Difficult to accept when the country's musical heritage is expunged as Satan's work, the cinema is banned and tha watching of world sports is forbidden, thus depriving the youth of the only source of cultural interaction they have with the outside world.

Today we live in a global world where ideas travel faster than lightening and people and weapons cross borders with utmost ease; where human rights are universal; and where political upheavals in one country reverberate in far off countries. No country stands alone.

This is why the world cannot and should not ignore what the Islamist movement in Somalia does and says. Remember what happened when the world ignored Afghanistan under Taliban. When the world stood aside and watched as they destroyed the historical relics of the Buddha; when they trampled on human rights and herded women into dark rooms. We all have seen the enormous cost of such negligence. Sept. 11 was only the start.

This is why the Somali Islamists' calling for Jihad against Ethiopia and the United States cannot be ignored. Ethiopia is the only country that has correctly seen the danger coming from the rise of Islamism in Somalia. Some may explain Ethiopia's position as muscle flexing aimed at controlling its small neighbor's ports, the only strategic resources that Somalia owns; but Ethiopia's fear of the Islamist movement in Somalia has a historical precedent. The call for Jihad against Christendom, rekindles Ethiopia's old memories of the 16th century when Imam Ahmed Gran launched a jihad against Christian Ethiopia with the help of the Ottoman Empire.

The Imam's army marched through Ethiopia, looting and destroying churches including the Axumite Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion where Ethiopian emperors had been coronated for centuries; Axum, that old kingdom that ruled as far as Yemen and parts of today's Saudi Arabia. In another attempt to revive the legacy of the Imam, Somalia's former dictator Mohammed Siyad Barre also invaded Ethiopia in 1977. Economically drained by long droughts and civil war, the Ethiopian army crumbled before the Soviet trained Somali military while the whole Somali people sang Ololiyaay (burn, burn). It was only the Soviet's switching of sides when a socialist military junta rose to power in Addis Ababa that saved Ethiopia from a complete collapse.

It is against this background that the Ethiopians quake when they hear the call for Jihad. The radicals of the Islamic Courts have also made no secret of their agenda to export their brand of Islam to Ethiopia; reviving an old dream of the Somalis and neighboring Arab countries to remove what they see as a Christian bastion from the Muslim region while forgetting that Islam owes its existence to Ethiopia. It was Ethiopia where the first Muslim exiles took refuge and found home and justice. The walled town of Harar, with its 99 mosques, thrived for generations under the Ethiopian rule as the most important seat of Islamic learning in the Horn of Africa.

Some may dismiss the Somali Islamists' rhetoric of exporting their message to Africa and beyond as a political expediency or even a fantasy. But the world has seen the havoc and destruction that the fantasy of one man can cause. Hitler gave us WWII and the holocaust and Osama bin Laden has ignited a world war of unconventional nature. This is why the world should not take lightly the threats coming from another megalomaniac such as Colonel Hassan Dahir Aweys and his gun trotting jihadist brigades.

The question of whether Ethiopia should intervene is irrelevant. No sovereign country in the world would allow a hostile and ideologically driven regime to threaten its existence. Crushing the Islamist militia while it is still in a nebulous stage will be less costly for the Somali people, for Ethiopia, and indeed for the whole world than to let the Islamists march into Ethiopia and wreck havoc to a nation of 70 million and more than 80 ethnic groups. Letting Ethiopia crumble will not only create another Yugoslavia in the heart of Africa but will also deal a devastating blow to the economies of Djibouti, Somaliland and Somalia.

No doubt an Ethiopian invasion would trigger a wave of patriotism among the poor Somali masses whose emotions are inflamed by the Islamists' call for martyrdom, but to deny the Islamists to run over the Transitional Federal Government, TFG, will be the only way to prevent the jihadist fervor spilling to neighboring countries. The world also needs to strengthen the defenses of the democratically robust breakaway republic of Somaliland and extend generous economic support to it. The UN approved African Peacekeeping force should also be rapidly deployed to the peaceful and autonomous state of Puntland whose resistance to the Islamists will not last long without an external help.

The international community should impose travel and economic sanctions on the UIC until they accept to stop their military onslaught, allow the deployment of AU forces and agree to start serious negotiations with the government under the AU and UN auspices. The UN should also take action against countries supporting the Islamists with arms and cash.

It will be unforgivable to allow a second Taliban to thrive in such a strategic but isolated corner of the world and let it unleash another wave of Al Qaeda martyrs to further saturate the already poisoned atmosphere between Islam and the West. It will also be a dereliction of duty on the part of the international community to watch the Somali people deprived of their basic human rights and do nothing. Yes, by saying this I cannot help but recall the horrendous pictures of the Somalis dragging the dead bodies of the American soldiers in the streets of Mogadishu. A crime that one of the Islamist leaders, Colonel Mohammed Yusuf Indhadde, had the audacity to brag about claiming to be one of the people who did this heinous action. He admitted this publicly while speaking to hundreds of people at the Mogadishu Sports Stadium.

But it is also worth remembering that sound-thinking Somalis watched with admiration as the United States Air Force delived tons of relief supplies to more than 100,000 Somali refugees in camps cut-off by flooding in north-eastern Kenya, thus making the Islamists' call for jihad ring hollow.

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Comments (108)

Somali:

With aid of portugal ethopia invaded somali holy town harrar in 1600's and were crushed, and latter
with help of brethen christians england france and italy, ethopia annxed harrar and much of ogaden somali land and 1977 with aid of ussr, cuba, east germany and usa covert help somalia was turn away from land it has gain. Today with much support from all west cauntries and usa ethopian are in mogadishu. Somalis are like lion and ethopians foxes, u can arm a fox with weapons but u can never remove it's fear of lions. Ethopia action in somalia is like giving cpr to somali nationalism, ethopia will not only be crushed in mogadishu, but this will lead to destruction of ethipia proper, there is not a single ethopian store or business in somalia, while somalis run most of ethopia, with constant west pamperment ethopians will have done thier natural pasture running away from somalis, ala french as ethopians and germans as somalis, we beat u in ingeniuity and business as well as in war.

ICU i hate bashir coz he may be christian:

cry or not somali ppl will become somali creater sooner insha allah somali ppl are stronger than arab pple we defeat so many time ethopain christian and we are the imaam ahmed gurey'mujahidiin.

jimmy:

Bashir Goth,
I am sure you know the truth in Somalia but you just want keep your job and that is understandable.

Ali M Ali:

Bashir Goth, thus far, proved to all, the he has issues with Islam and Somalis.
Come out of the closet, and say so!!!

Karim:

Bashir Goth wrote:

"Today we live in a global world where ideas travel faster than lightening and people and weapons cross borders with utmost ease; where human rights are universal;"

No we don't.

What you described is a fictional world.

Human Rights are not universal. They were meant to be Universal. As we saw lately, they are in reality proportional to to how strong/western your country is.

Taliban, who was mainly made up of angry Arabs from the Gulf in Afghanistan, wasn't born in a vacuum.

What travels faster now are not weapons as Bashir claimed. Western-made weapons always traveled faster to their destinations in non-western countries to support, feed and make money out of the killings among the backward people.

What travels faster now is: NEWS.

Western imperialism led now by the United States government can no longer hides its ugly face from its victims.

No amount of window dressing can contain the damage the raw images of war cause in the minds of people.

As the saying goes:

You reap what you sow.

You can convince some angry Somali that banning music isn't the right thing to do but you can't redo the lives bombs destroy from 35,000 ft.

m.omar egypt:

from mecca to the african horn
starting muslims ,upon following the command of the divine revelation and trying to avoid the perscution and oppresion of the idol-worshipers,started to migrate to africa,why africa while they could,v migrated to jeuraslem or even to yamen near by,what is the significance?king nnogaashee of africa is the significance,the honorable man was known for his justice ,under his kingdoom ,no body is oppressed.,where king nnogaashee received all this justice from,and how he kept his fast kingdoom on justice?king nnogaashee at that era was one of the few people who they still holding on the truth that is left by issa ( jesus ) son of marry may the creator lord exalt both names.
king nnogaashee,was also a guided scholar,upon receiving muslims at his hall,he asked them about their belive and what they are doing in his kingdoom ? king nnogaashee upon hearing the answer ,found out that the truth that muslims carry is not contradicted to the truth that he carry,in fact both truth are in perfect synchorinazation and harmony.hypocrets back then(and now)did not like this hapy marriage,they starting injecting their poison in,but the marrige was solid enough to reject and deter the falshood.later on king nnogaashee embraced islam and died as muslim.peace be uppon who they follow the truth .

Mat:

The best analysis I have read so far regarding Somalia. Keep up the good work, Mr Bashir Goth.

alayk:

Is there some arbitrary censorship going on? I wrote two medium length posts chiding the author on leaving out relevant facts in the article and neither was posted after I submitted them. However, posts deriding jews are still there?

Fikru Helebo:

Please find my commentary on the Ethiopian involvement in Somalia here:
http://enset.blogspot.com/2006/12/reckless-war-borne-of-bad-choices.html

Horn of Africa:

After reading this article and observing over the events of the last few days I decided to formulate an opinion of this topic for the blogosphere. Mind you this is an opinion. That said I can see why there is a need for the bombings from a reactionist governemnt in Ethiopia. Security, religion, national sovergenty are all topics of consideration for the attacks. But waht of the rising Islamic interest in Somalia? Would the fundamailism be good for Somalia? (i.e. Afghanistan? with Coffee as their largest export?) I beleive that there should be some measurment of control of the growth of terrorism.It is a global threat that is growing into many areas that we in the west are unfamilar with. But foreign policy is not necessary this adminstrations strength. The US/EU/UN had opportunities to solve these issues diplomatically through the years but the system and desire brokedown. Which is a shame since we (US) could have had a larger influence in the region for more democratic freedoms. Now what? What should we do? Let two countries that have a history of warfare duke it out? What really is interesting to note is that the US has sent advisors to the region(trust me I know)So this is not going away overnight. But what is scary is that it can escelate into a larger scale war. The Islamic world vs the US and Christainity. Just a thought during this season of peace.

Fred:

Don't know too much about Somalia but know quite a bit about Ethiopia - in fact spent several months there earlier this year. Was based in Addis Ababa. Quite frankly that place was dangerous. Soldiers at random putting opposite politicians and students in prison (are still there), families not knowing where they are being held, police shooting at students for unknown reasons, major hotels (like the Hilton) having intens security checks for people coming or going, car drivers petrified for police suddenly stopping them (especially near airport), etc. If from the western world (especially the US)perspective they are the good guys I would be pretty nervous being a Somalian right now. Obviously both countries are nuts so let them figure it out.

KAT:

Mr. Goth seems to be ignoring certain very key facts in this issue. If he is from the region, he presumably is aware of these facts and the question arises as to his bias in the matter. Is he intentionally ignoring and omitting important facts to further an agenda?
The history of the region is what it is, and many of Mr. Goth's facts and inferences are disputable. The fact is that Ethiopia is a relatively new player in the current conflict. For many years, Somalia has been overrun by secular warlords who have terrorized the people of Somalia. These warlords have been given free reign by the secular government. Some say that they have been supported by the government. The people of Somalia, fed up with the status quo, are fighting back. The Islamic movement has given them a sense of self dignity and strength to fight the terrorism of the secular warlords and the insensitivity of the secular government to their plight. Afraid of the power of the people, the Somali government has asked the Ethiopian government to send military assistance. Seeing a foreign invader, the people in Somalia are fighting back, just as we would if our homeland was attacked. This is not about religious extremism. However, if something is not done to relieve the suffering of the Somali people, if the government and the warlords are not removed, extremist influences, whether purporting to be Muslim, Christian, or secular, whether governmental or rebel, will find inroads to win over a people who are desparate for peace and dignity at any cost.

An illegal invasion:

Let us refresh our memories back to August of 2006. Remember the mass defection of parliamentarians back in early August. The source of this defection emanated from the opposition many parliamentarians voiced about a resolution aimed at legalising TFG's plan to 'invite' Ethiopian military advisors to 'train' TFG soldiers. Back then, the mere presentation of this resolution led to scuffles in parliament, followed by mass defections. In fact one-third of the cabinet quit parliament.

In the end Abdullahi Yusuf had no choice but to dissolve parliament.

The point here is that the resolution aimed at legalising Ethiopia's so-called military advisors was never passed. Despite this, the TFG continues to claim that the Ethiopian presence in Somalia is at the invitation of the TFG. This contention is baseless. The resolution was never passed, therefore the Ethiopian presence in Somalia is illegal. It is illegal. After failing to get the endorsement of their fellow parliamentarians, Abdullah Yusuf and his domesticated animal (Ghedi) invited the Ethiopians unilaterally.

Equally groundless is the notion by Ethiopia that this war was launched in self-defense. Addis Ababa has ratified and is party to the UN Charter which permits military action only in response to 'actual or imminent' attack. The ICU never attacked Ethiopian nor was it planning to do so. Furthermore, this Ethiopian invasion is also in breach of the recent U.N. resolution barring all neighbouring countries from involvement in the proposed 'peacekeeping' force.

The framers of this recent U.N. resolution including (red neck) Bolton are of course not going to honour the contents of their own resolution barring all neighbouring from involvement in this conflict; why would you, when the real aims behind that U.N. resolution are now being fulfilled on your behalf.

Even the defunct AU has approved of this illegal invasion. If it were for any other country, the above points would not have been dismissed as lightly. The events of the last few days will not be forgotten, nor will the defeaning silence from the international community. The instigators of these events must be held accountable.

Taylor_DTW:

I hear a lot of arguing one side, but can anyone admit it's a mess from any angle? All sides are guilty; no one's hands are clean. In this environment, I wonder what else the US can do besides giving tacit backing to the side we prefer? What is our crime here? There are only bad options to be implemented by bad men. Just because we are powerful, doesn't mean the world's insanity is our fault.

I hear also the violence and hatred in your voices. Are you really using 500 year old invasions as an excuse for dropping bombs? Do the others really believe that Mulims are always murderers or that threatening more violence will prove some point? When this war is over, the history writers will say: "They killed each other, then later they stopped." All your words of self-righteousness will be forgotten.

I'm sorry for you, Horn of Africa. You are destined for more decades of war and death. If someone can articulate a 'right' way for my powerful government to act, I will vote for it. But so far I haven't heard anything compelling.

-Taylor in Detroit.

Teshome Abebe:

An excellent analysis of the extant situation in the Horn! You have opened many eyes and minds. No sane person can deny the threat the demented terrorists pose to the region and to Ethiopia in particular. Ethiopia will never tolerate this foolishness, and will never again allow another Grangne Muhammad to rise and terrorize its population. Nation states should never negotiate with terrorists!

NYFB:

Well done to Jews extremists and ignorant main stream society. Good luck to the Jew Post in Washington, open your eyes folks.

Chris, Malmo, Sweden:

Why does the nationality of someone matter? No validity is lost based on where someone is from; only speaking truth does. And I am not talking the truth as it is purported to be by hardline Muslims; that's not truth, anymore than it is when a hardline, conservative Christian speaks their brand of "truth". I am speaking of the truth of facts, not interpretations.

The Truth of the matter, is that no religion has a monolopy on the truth, and in fact, they generally muddle the truth to fit their own particular brand of ideology. Freedom to worship, or not worship, whatever God one prays to, should be an inherent freedom the way it is free to breathe air. Unfortunately, all too often, someone has an agenda, and usually the first step in that agenda is to deprive someone of their freedom. Islam, Christian, it doesn't matter; if loss of freedom is involved, any sane person should immediately be suspicious of those that preach whatever it is they are preaching.

samira:

I am tiered of war.All you men think nothing but violence!If all of you are men enough pack and go to solve problems.Bunch of lazy and dreamers!Nothing can be done chatting here.No one cares.Meles and the crazy so called muslims fighters are in control of the damages to come.Stop talking go do something!You guys talk ,talk,talk...There is nothing humanitarian in all of you.Women elders and children are in pain.No one cares.It is sad!

Thomas Myers:

I totally disagree with your editorial.Invasion by Ethopia will lead to loss of life on both sides.
Genearal Abuzaid had given the blessing for Ethopia to attack.As in Iraq he is misguided.

Eugene Elliott:

If only we had a real President, or if only we did not have our Army bogged down in the oil patch quagmire, then the last great hope for peace in this world would not be completely impotent in Somalia and the Sudan genocide. The histroy of the US on Africa is to avoid any action, unless Liberia is involved, period. The GOP dominated government probably figured that these groups are economic backet cases and could not provide their chronies with enough opportunities for profit to become involved. I would agree, smash the Islamists. Not just in Somalia, but anwhere in the world they can be found. And leave alone the petty dictators like Saddam who are not involved with them. BTW- I like Gary's comments about the danger of Christian fanactism. I am far more worried about the Muhlla Bin Falwell than Osama Bin Ladin. His followers are closer and try to sound rational in front of the Camaras.

zack:

Meles, the abysinian dictator has miscalculated his ability to destroy the forces of the islamic courts in a week or two weeks the most, as he told gen. abizaid last month. what the moran don,t understand is how much we somalis hate meles and his regime and how much support the islamic courts have inside somlia the war is taking place not in ethiopia but in somali soil which will make it even easier the UIC forces to hunt down the dismoral tigray militia in our land as i see the conflict is getting bigger. and it will be long and bloody war as long as ethiopian troops are in somalia the question is can meles afford to fight that long in very unfreindly enviroment?

Gary:

I agree with Think About It. There's an excellent article on Somalia on the BBC website today showing the peace that the Courts have brought to Mogadishu. They may not last--their Islam may be too conservative for Somalis, but they have tamed the city.

As for all that garbage about beheadings for not praying five times a day, by the same token, we might want to ban Christians from government lest there be executions for working on Sunday or for homosexuality.

Axel Foley:

I don't know Thomas, you should ask the UIC why they call on MORE foreign fighters to join their jihad, which they publicly declared against Eithiopia about one month ago? Were the bombings in Mumbai also orchestrated by Bush? How about the slaughter of Russian children in Beslan? Did the neo-cons order that too? And then we have the Ivory Coast, where, guess what Thomas, muslims are fighting Christians and animists. Please don't forget the southern Sudan where muslims have slaughtered over 1 million Christians and animists in the last 25 years. Then there is southern Thailand and the Philippines. I will barely even mention Darfur because there you have the best of all possible worlds, muslims killing muslims. Poor little precious muslimes, so misunderstood, who could ever have anything against such good people?

Thomas:

So here we are, Christmas Day 2006, and another war to usher in the new year. Hurray.

I guess that visit General Abizaid made to Ethiopia 2 wks ago is starting to make sense.

Whatever happened to countries sorting out their own problems internally? Of course its never as simple as that in the world of real politik.

What we are left with is the bogeyman of terrorism that will keep the U.S. defense contractors and terror-industry happy for the next 100 years and beyond. Forget law enforcement (ie. Spain, Britain), thats just so old fashioned and not sexy enough.

Here's to another lousy year, 2007, brought to you by all the familiar faces.

John Lennon:

Typical:

It is not only Christians and Jews that are at war with your slave cult but also Hindus, Buddhists, animists, communists, atheists, and those who don't care about religion. Yes indeed, you should prepare for war because that is what non-muslims will give you and rightfully so. I hope your emergency services are prepared for the destruction to come. Enjoy.

Knife! Wire! Srebrenica!:

I am glad I was crystal clear muslim. The cowards are muslims who fight with car-bombs and hide behind their women. Wait until we launch a terror war against you mustafa, and then you will taste our hatred. How about car-bombs that rip the centers of Damascus and Tehran to pieces? We can also make some interesting videos and as for your Bosnian muslim friends when NATO leaves we will settle accounts with them. One day we will feed you the roasted flesh of your children.

Mohamoud Ali:

Mr. Bashir Goth is a Somali from the Awdal Region of Somalia; resident in the United Arab Emirates; and ardent supporter of the Somali Biafran region who call themselves "Somaliland."

His whole intention is not to warn in earnest about the ICU, surely they are an abominable an organization, but to raise his secessionist fervor for an entity that far more abominable, so called "Somaliland" and more dangerous to Somalia,Ethiopia and for the whole of Africa--- Unity and territorial integrity of the African Union and United Nations' member states. This is his core argument "Letting Ethiopia crumble will not only create another Yugoslavia in the heart of Africa but will also deal a devastating blow to the economies of Djibouti, Somaliland and Somalia."

Think about it:

It seems anything that has the word "Islam" in it is seen as bad and as an evil.

The facts are:
1. The ICU has brought peace to the regions they ruled. The first political organization to do that Mogadishu. Mogadishu is the capital of Somalia and the city with the largest population in Somalia with over 2 million people.
2. The so-called government (a tribal government divided into 4+1/2 where the 4 largest clans rule and the rest get 1/2 of the seats) is a useless government in name only. They control no territory and are made up of warlords. As a matter of fact the whole government has fallen apart. The president dismissed the government, the parliament has fallen apart.
3. Ethiopia has invaded Somalia and is conducting air raids all over the country.

The people reading this article should consider only the facts. The man Bashir Goth has a personal agenda and his article is pure propaganda. If the ICU is bad for Somalia, then why are the majority of Somali people supporting them?

The best solution in Somalia is to let the Somali people work it.

The fact (if you like it or not) is that Somalia is Muslim country, and if you haven't noticed yet, Muslim movements are getting the support of the Muslim people all over the world.

The TFG (government in Somalia) has been around for more then 2 years and they have done nothing for the people. Zero. They did nothing. They didn't bring law and order, they didn't bring peace.

The ICU is been around for a couple of months and they have brought peace, law (a medieval one at that) but law nonetheless.

The ICU has the support of the Somali people and Ethiopia's envision is illegal.

Daniel:

This post from Gosh is just the last call from the now defunct "recognized government" from Somalia. How could any proud Somali have anything to do with such a puppet regime. Even the Ethiopian would soon have nothing to discuss with Badoia. The Bush administration has created 2 new safe haven for Al-Quaida, Somalia and Ethiopia. Nice job GW

Frank al Irlandi:

I am afraid you will have to stand beside Mr Bush in the dock at the International Comedy Court for grave crimes against the english language.

Kings in English get crowned.

American:

Islam is the problem. Any one who really follows the Prophet and Koran can't be peaceful as long as non Muslims live on this planet.

Peace will come when either Muslims or non Muslims are eliminated from this planet.

Every one has to choose.

Typical Muslim-haters:

Re: Knife! Wire! Srebrenica

What a disgusting display of hatred for Islam and Muslims. Not suprisingly the coward online is also celebrating the massacre of 7000 Bosnian Muslims at the hands of Christian Serbs in Bosnia...your rantings only reenforce the reality that Muslims all over the world must defend themselves against Western/Christian designs that have failed to break them for the past 200 years...Mark my words...Somalia will be another loss chalked up by the West versus Islam

Yousuf Hashmi:

Dear mr. Bashir

Since you belong to the troubled region therefore your opinion has a meaning and credibility.

i have worked for some time on an ethiopian ship and therefore have a little 1st hand knowledge about that area.

your opinion unfortunately does not appeal me. not because i consider them un biased but because it lacks the substance and reserch.

to write an article in an air conditioned luxury room on a top notch computer with latest microsoft office loaded is very easy and once the topic is women liberations human rights etc it is much more easy because all the material is avilable ist hand. this is just copy/paste.

you take same report and let computer shift somalia vs afghanistan then the report will be same.

this is what we do not expect from a journalist of your caliber.

the basic problem in 3rd world and poor countries are that their are only two classes. one are elite and enjoying better life than europeans and the other is who are having less rights and food than a living object deserves for its survival.

the gap between rich and poor in these area is enlarging so fast that any current statistics will be obsolete within a short span of time.

the region is engulfed with extreme poverty, hunger, and corruption. these are the basic problems and the elite will find an opportunity to keep the masses busy by fabricating any issue on which the masses can be devided.

what ever you wrote word by word was told about afghanistan. after so much human losses the condition of afghan women is same.

resurgence of islam in somalia is a direct result of oil wealth came to neigbouring saudi arabia. the saudi way of life was not only copied in somalia but many other islamic countries.muslims start seeing the faith as a route to wealth and hope.

the killing, war famine and corruption is not brought by the religion. the only thing is that since elite need some issue then it found an scape goat in form of religion.

if you want the stability in area you have to bring education, health and infra structure to develop the quality of life . if you think that by a small proxy war between two neighbours will solve the problem then very regrettfuly a day will come when you will shy away the article you wrote today.

Sabawoon Afghan:

Do beg your pardon, I in my previous post was unaware of you being a somali national and addressed you as a western liberal interventionist. You are a somali national and it makes you a seeker like Ahmad Chalabi and group not an imposer. Chalabi and his group succeded in their championing of lies and the mess they created.Where are they now sitting in some comfy bungalow in turkey or london where as the people who bought your lies or willingly bought your lies are paying with the blood of their dearest sons and we are all aware of the innocent iraqi blodd spilled for a bunch of lies . I hope people willingly or unwillingly don't fall for your hypothetical claims again.

RIP:

No one will forget the heinous actions of muslims and sooner or later anti-muslim activists will teach the muslims the full meaning of the word terror in all of its dimensions.

Sabawoon Afghan:

Hmm Goth I must congratulate for championing the democratic rights of Somali people and the hypothetical oppression of those right. I wonder why don't people like yourself voiced their concerns just a year ago when there were more than 70 warlords in the Somali capital, rape, looting, abduction, money extortion and murder their everyday business all over the country. Now, that a group has got rid of those bandits and murders and have given the Somali people some security and hope. People like you with their liberal interventionist agenda are opposing this group. Be real. Now you are advocating backing those same murderer bandits just because there is an Ideological difference between you and the Somali courts. Your argument is lame, because you have cleverly avoided the Word 'might'. You ought to have said they might attack Ethiopia because of some centuries old feud? And yet you credit Ethiopia for meddling in Somali internal affairs. Do you think by doing so it wouldn't flame the Somali's hatred for Ethiopia and increase the likelihood of war between those two poorest countries of the world? Dear Goth you are a man of pen and you ought to be very careful when using it. as the saying goes pen is mightier than the sword therefore one ought to be even more careful when writing. Hypothetical scenarios and the big 'might' have led us to an unjust war in Iraq; because we thought Saddam might have weapons of mass destruction. I am not saying you did but Writers like yourself who used their mighty pen to advocate that might has caused the loss of life of on both sides with more Iraqi's dead under the occupation than under that tyrant saddam at least people didn't have to worry about walking on the streets under that tyrant in fear of being a victim of bombing, police abductions, being victims collateral damage of allies fire and falling victim to the hatred of one or other ethno religious group.
With regards

Duale:


This is a blatant mischarecterization of facts by Goth. When did the Somalis invade or attacked Ethiopia? Rather its the Ethiopian Govt that had attacked with MIG jet fighters into a populated areas in central Somalia on Sunday. Their actions will not stay unanswered. In fact it will solidify Somalis resolve and enmity toward Ethiopia. And to all who are concerned any semblance of peace in the Horn, should know that likelihood has been dashed by Tigray's coward attacks on Somalian civilians. We will not tire nor forget thier heinous acts God Willing.

Abdisalan:

When Will I see this part of the world (East Africa) becoming oasis of peace whereby its citizens commit each others growth by developing a vibrant and thriving economy that befits for all as we are all one family? I wonder, if I am dreaming?. I see the days when express trains coming other parts of the world stopping by having continental breakfast at Asmara red sea and lunch in Addisababa's merkatos and dine in Mogadishu's Indian Ocean. Then through towards the wonders of Serengeti and Nairobi until one reaches to South Africa.

I longer the day when the aforementioned dream will ever become true in my life and guess what I truly believe this will happen and together we will share our talents and our people's way of lives as well as their aspirations with the rest of the world.

Knife! Wire! Srebrenica!:

Suleman the muslim, who claims to be an "Eithiopian". You are now getting the holy war you deserve, and the appeal for foreign fighters, many of whom have already been killed and captured (Pakistanis, Chechens, Iranians), shows just how badly Somali arses are being kicked by Eithiopia. Hopefully Eithiopia will raze Somalia to the ground and construct an enormous funeral pyre for the Somali people. Hide behind your women you gutless muslims, your time is coming, sooner or later we will hunt you all down and settle accounts once and for all. Merry Christmas mustafa.

John Buttler:

DO NOT HAVE AN EXPERIENCE THE ETHIPIAN LEADER MENGISTU WAS SAYING WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL THE END WITH ERITEA BUT ERITREA FOUGHT FOR THEIR LIBRATION AND FREEDOM IT TOOK TIME AND FINALY LIBRATED. I AM TELLING YOU IT IS UPTO SOMALIA WHATEVER THEY DO BUT WHEN THEY COME IN YOUR COUNTRY THEN YOU CAN FIGHT. IT IS A LIE NO SOMALIAN PERSON IS IN ETHIOPIA OR ERITREA WHY DO NOT YOU LEAVE THEM IN THEIR COUNTRY WHAT ETHIOPIA IS DOING IS LIKE IRAK INVANTION

South African:

I got to this page via Google News and spent some good few seconds carefully inspecting the url to see if it was not somehow a spoof site. Sorry, but Washingtonpost.com has just nosedived pretty much off my radar screen.

The author wrote: "The international community should impose travel and economic sanctions on the UIC until they accept to stop their military onslaught..."

He writes this of a country which has not had a government of any description for over a decade, thanks to external machinations and, in particular, Ethiopian policy. And now that Somalia has regained a government of sorts, apparently by popular acclaim, it is to be crushed by an Ethiopian invasion. Resistance to this invasion is now to be termed a "military onslaught" by the victims?

There is a difference between professional journalism and hate speech and the above blog comes dangerously close to the latter.

Tom:

This analysis is incomplete without understanding that the weaons for the jihadists are coming from Iran and supplied by Russia/Iran. Hundreds of Somali fighters were in Lebanon and fought against the Israelis alongside Hezbollah. Hard for many to digest considering the many issues between sunnis and shi'a. Many have now returned to Somalia to fight in the south. However, today, and every day, Hezbollah is training many hundreds of Somalis in Lebanon and Syria to go to the Horn of Africa to fight the new front in the world war of Jihad. In fact, this war is already lost in Africa. It is only a matter of time. As the world stood by and did nothing in Somalia, they have now reaped the whirlwind. And for Ethiopia, too late realizing they are directly threatened, will be lost and the planned Iranian-influenced Crescent will soon extend to the west coast of Africa.
Tom

Kibrayehu Metaferia:

Mr. Goths analysis is totally invalid and doesnot in anyway justify Ethiopia's invasion of Somalia. In fact, his argument and ansalysis adds fuel to fire. Somali's claim of the Ogaden region has been going on for years, and we have had two unnecessary wars with our neighbours. I am not sure as to whether this claim will stop even if the Transitional government gets a grip of power in Somalia. Claiming the Ogaden region and the so-called "jihad" stays there. Ethiopia should only defend itself IF and only when the UIC starts to come to our borders and violates our sovergnity. We wish to live in peace with our neighbours, and the only way we can resolve this is by dialogue and not war.

Joseph Taylor:

I was on a one-year assignment in Somalia some 20 years ago. I lived in Galcaio, some 13 hours by Land Rover west and then north from Mogadishu out the Italian and Chinese roads.

I came to know the Somali as a gentle people, but fierce when battle called. I am deeply saddened by the continuing tragedy that I am certain has long since killed all of the friends I made there. I think of a then-young Captain Abdulkadir Ahmed..a soul lighter than anyone else I have ever met. He was a true embodiment of what the Somali want to, and can be.

The war that was most obviously brewing during the mid-1980's has since run hot, cold, and hot again. As a people, the Somali deserve a government that serves the nation and not itself. From Siad Barre to the present, those who rule Somalia have cared only about themselves and their coterie. Only when that self-serving political view changes, will Somalia finally emerge from its long darkness.

The most I can do for the Somali is bid them Peace. I do that most earnestly for the sake of what I know Somalia can be. Peace soon, I hope, lest Somalia be gone forever.

Kiros pro Oromigha:

Hi people what is going on here. I have a question for you, so please if you know the answer please let me know. My question is related with the name Oromo I know before 30 years ago they use to be called in another name which is Galla so from where they found this new name and started to call Oromo instead of the old name. the reason I am saying is why people change their name based on their liking or disliking how can you feel pretty or ugly because of your name. Name's liking and disliking should not have an effect on peoples life or feeling. You should not feel smaller or bigger from others because of your name. To me before the change of name people must change their view how they see themselves. People should not expect other people to help them in order to cure them from their inferiority feeling. I know the Derg started to call the Oromigha speakers as Oromos but the current government was the one who started to help our Oromo Brothers and sisters by changing their old name in order to make them happy so they can feel better about themselves. if they are happy with it it will be okay with me also. But why do you need to deny your own history that was with you for many centuries. I know at least 75% or 85% of Oromos support and love this government because this government has change the name for that they want this government to stay on power. The government of Meles also has boosted census because it wants to help the Oromo people. The Oromo people are not the largest ethnic group yes they live in many places but they do not keep one province if we see all the Oromo provinces like Bale, Arusi, Kefa Wolega Elibabur all this provinces have other millions of non Oromo people like Gurage, Wolayita, Knebata, Aghiwak, Somalia, Afar, Sidama and many more non Oromo ethnic people live in all so called Oromo provinces. Remember in the early days of this Government OLF has massacred 10th of thousands who were non Oromos mainly the Amiharas because it OLF wanted to be the majority by killing other people in the places like Asosa Arbagugu Arusi and Bale and Harere. because OLF thought that the Oromo settled land will be free of other people. So if the fact is this, why the few OLF members can not see the truth. When people speak about Ethiopia why they forget the big picture like they majority of Ethiopians. I know the largest ethnic people in Ethiopia are the Amihara and the Oromos, but the remaining ethnic people of Ethiopia all together will be more than 60% like the Tigreans, Sidamas, wolayitas, Gurages, Afars etc. Do the non Amiharas and Oromos should cry like some Oromos to be noticed. I know the other non Amihara and non Oromo ethiopians understand the problem in our country is not anybody it is just the economic situation. Further more they also do not feel inferior like the few Oromos. they are silent when the OLF crys like a baby to sic attention or for that matter help from anyone like Shabia by running from corner to corner. Therefore OLF please do not run from place to place nobody will understand your problem until you accepted who you are from whom can you run since your problem is in your head until you recognize where your problem is hiding whether you change your name or not you will still feel the same even though you can not say it openly. I want to say something for all OLF members if you do not stopp your foolish relationship with Shabia and Esayas of Eritrea the Meles govenment will be forced to cancele the current way of division of the country which is based on language instead of saying Oromia, Somilia and Amhara Kilil etc. It wil go back to the old way of calling like Wolega province, Sidamo Province, Kefa province, Bale province and it goes like that so please OLF do not make mad the Tigreans especially Meles. Remember also the reason the Amiharas do not like Meles and TPLF is because of OLF's massacre the Amiharas think Meles and TPLF did not help to stopp the Amiharas massacre by OLF.

Amin as-Sumaal:

Its obvious our fella here has a working agenda. Connoting Africans with Hitler is beyond inane. Somalia has finally come to terms with a popular movement, a peaceful one that harbors no ill intent to its neighbours, one that has its leaders all educated with university degrees and professorships, and the first reaction is to kill them all. How patently American. Where were we when the country was being ravaged by warlords? Oh right, we were arming them. These warlords who've aptly titled themselves the 'legitimate government' are incompetent, illiterate and ill fitted to run a country.

Using the tired moniker of 'terrorist' should lead us to react with suspicion, or have we already forgetten Chalabi and his dubious claims of WMDs before the war?

Suleman:

I believe the war between Meles Zenawi and the Somalis will soon be over with, eithere one of them will win and it will be over. The Eritirians might win or loose the war in Somalia too. The same is true for foregnh fighters helping Somaians othere. I am an Ethiopian and also Christian if you want to know if it matters to you. If you want to know what most Ehiopians,feel about the war including me, here it is.
Our number one enemy is the Dictator who is sitting in power in Addis Ababa, who has jailed our democratically elected leaders, who has killed counless inocent civilians, who is trying very hard to stay in power. The war with Somalia is his oun war of trying very hard to stay in power.

Tony, Minnesota:

Mr. Goth

Your article was excellent. Keep up the good work. I would like to see your more artciles regarding volient side of Islam. It is really hard to understand why Islam become a religion of intolerance, hate and a means to grab power. It's basic premises seems to lay on money and power.

It is sad to see some power driven war lords in Somolia hijack this relegion to fulfill their wildest dream.

I hope ALLAh will show them the right directions to bring up their war torn country.

GG:

This is a well detailed analysis of the current crisis in the horn of Africa. War is bad and very bad when it is in this region known for being the poorest region in the world.
But stopping the UIC as well discussed in the articel, has no other choice. Unfortunatelly, war seems the only language the extrem UIC and their international terrorist understand.

The weak transational government needs all open assistance. I salute the Etiopian govornment for standing by it.

I hope the war will have a speedy end and peace loving somali people will build the new somalia.
Peace.

YOHANNES:

We all know this war is not about terrorism. It is about power. The Ethiopian dectator wants to stay in power he has to creat havoc any where. And Somalia is right place for him. If it was about terorrism, the head of the terrorist group in the horn of Africa is the so called prime minister Meless Zenawi. Meless is all about money. He has no Ethiopian nature in him. The Somali people are our brothers and sisters.

Jiji:

Thanks Washington post. You gave the world the chance to know the reality.
Yes, Ethiopia is may be the only country where all religions lived in such harmony and respect to each other.At least so far!
Yes, Ethiopia has always been fighting extremism in all its forms. I am Ethiopian and Christian(at least by birth). I have lived in Ethiopia for so many years and have never seen any kind of animosity between these two major religions. I do not like when some people refer to ethiopia as a just christian country . That does not depict the reality. May be in the past durind the Haileselasie rule Ethiopia was being ruled by a strictely christan empire. But that is history. Even during that time there was no way a christian would have any advantage over a muslim just because of his religion.We have lived brotherly.
Yes, Ethiopia has always been historicaly a welcoming country for specialy the muslim refugees( the somalis) as well as christans( the south sudanees). Somalis have always found Ethiopia a country to go to with out any fear during any of their crisis. The Ethiopian people have been always friendly and kind to hundreds of thousands of somalis during their hard times. How on earth then could Ethiopia be the enemy of Islam? HAve you not read what the prophet Mohamed said about Ethiopia and its people?

Fot those who are naive enough to say that this war against the fundamentalists is orchastrated by Meles: Do not be stupid and staburn! All the facts to be warned of the moves of this terorist groups is there, everywhere. If you do not like Meles that is fine, but do not mix the apple with the orange. Meles does not need this war to stay in power. He will be in power as long as we need him. There is nothing any body can do about it. The ethiopian peoples have elected him once again. For those people like Awey: your days are counted. I will talk to you in two weeks. That is how long is going to take to take care of you!

Demisse:

Ah! Our naughty tiny northern neighbours have become more Somalis than the Somalis themselves.

Haji:

There is no reality of Mr Goth war assessment in Somalia.Mr Goth is forgetting that the fever of patriotism which is sweeping through Somalia,will reach Somaliland.You have given an open licence for Ethiopia to intervene in the Somali war,but remember Somalis are ONE who are you Mr Goth?,I do not wish to call you a mercenary, but your obnoxius statement cast a shadow of doubt..

Demisse:

Why are the naughty neighbours north of the Ethiopian border attacking Bashir Goth? Is it because he told the truth they don't want the world to know?

Ismael:

Anissa adem....
i read your judgmental point of view, but what i want to mind you , "the division of Ethiopian people and the last 40 yrs gov'ts leaders was just awefull,the land of oromia and oromo population is more than 75% of the 60% consecutively. but you are talking about the bigger amhara, who and which book told you wollo is the amhara region or people? back and ask or read some books,
The governmental issue was under amhara after the axumait governance.which was under the tigrian civilization, i just wondering when you count the three day leaders in ethiopian histroy. do you know ethiopia was stay with out gov't for more than a week, because they were well cultured people so don't give the three day leaders.
Ethiopian histroy is every where if you have any problem to get them you can ask i will send you if you want.
islamic court said "jihad against Ethiopian in somalia." which are the invaders not against the innocent civilian and across the border.

Blackhawk:

Shut the hell up Mr Goth --You are a tribalist and a traitor on the Net!

Don't talk about Somali Affairs

Ethiopia is a known for torturing and mascaring its own civilians, they spending all their resources on Somali war --when Ethiopian people are starving to death!

Annissa Adem:

Well,-well well.. Mr Bashir Goth is a smart and educated man so do not attack him for telling us the truth.
In addition please let us try to talk the facts when we say things for example Mohamed Hussein from Mogadishu has said the Amhara people in ethiopia are
15% of the population that is a completely false because as an Ethiopian I know that the Amharas are over 33% of the population of Ethiopia, even though
I am not an Amhara I know who and what lives in my country. For instance from the 13 provinces of ethiopia the provinces of Gunder, Gojam and Wolo are
fully populated by Amhara ethnic people the remaining 9 provinces have the population from every trive except Tigrea. It is a known fact more than 3/4th
of Shuwa province and the majority of Addis Ababa residents are Amhara so why Mr Mogadishu man wants to tell us the false information, it is also a fact
that many other parts of Ethiopia provinces have many Amhara people so where did he get this Mohamed Hussein thing from Mogadishu his big lie. Mr Mogadishu
man has to learn history before he talks the false information he learned from OLF and Shabia that Amhara people were not the single ruling party in Ethiopia
most of the time even if we take as an example for the last 40 years starting from Meles if we go back we will find that many leaders were from other tribes
it does not mean if someone speaks Amharic the leader of Ethiopia is an Amhara for instance Meles is a Tigrean before him Mengistu was his mother's side
Amhara and his father's side Oromo, Mengistu himself has said this so I am not creating out of the blue. Before Mengistu the Ethiopian leader was a full
Oromo blooded man his name was General Teferi Bante, before him General Aman Michael Amindom from Eritrea. Plus before those above leaders I mentioned
so many past Ethiopian leaders were not always full blooded Amharas rather they were Amharic speaker laeders from other tribes most of the time mix with
Oromo and Tigrean including Eritreans. Today in Ethiopia 60 to 75% of Ethiopians including me speak Amharic even though many of us are not from Amhara
tribe. Why people like to see only our difference. Because our difference is not a significant factor or our difference is not a visible thing if we do
not sppeak a word until we say I am from this or that tribe nobody would know from what tribe we are because our difference is not based on a skin color
or other visible things. The Ethiopian people difference is only based on language plus since there is no a caste system in Ethiopia many people may not
be what they claim if they think they are Amhara they may not be an Amhara or Oromo because their parents might have moved because of different reasons
like marrage, tread, or other business related cases. Moving from place to place will diminish our language based difference especially today even the
language difference has began to die out. It continues to exist only in few narrow minded tribal chiefs or lords like TPLF, OLF, Shibia and in few people's
brain who are borne to think small things. By the way there is no difference among Tigreans and Eritreans they are the same people from the same background
with similar culture and language and the same land. Their similarity can be compared with the Somalia land people and the other parts of Somalia people.
They use to be under one adminstration before the Italians controlled Eritrea that was why they were killing each other on Badme land. Do you know that
Esayas the todays Eritrean leader is from Tigrea and Meles the self appointed leader of Ethiopia and the butcher of Ethiopian people and the invader of
Somalia is half Eritrean and half Tigrean. Remember also Meles does not represent the 70 millions of Ethiopians because he has massacred for the last 30
years especially for the last 15 years. Many Oromos, Aghiwak, Sidamas and other Ethiopians from different ethnic groups has been massacred and jailed.
So he is not fighting the Islamic court for Ethiopia he is just fighting for himself and for the few he represents. Therefore please before you declare
your crazy Jihad thing you need to know who you are fighting, my reason is I have heard that the Islamic court had declared Jihad on Ethiopia but you need
to know one thing before your declaration of Jihad on Ethiopia Meles had already has declared his Jihad on the Ethiopian people for the last 15 years so
do not waste your time by declaring your crazy Jihad. If I was you I would declare Jihad on Sudan Arabs to stopp the massacre of poor Darfur women and
children instead of declaring Jihad on Ethiopia the mother of Bilal.

sol:

Agree 100%. The cancer called Islamic extrimism must be rooted out as soon as possible beore it takes hold and consumes the region and beyond. Remeber the Taliban??

geb W.:

I have just one question to the writer.Why is Islam and its sheria law suddenly become a problem for Somalia ? why it is Ok for the Saudis ,the sudanese ,the Iranians ,the arab gulf states and numerous others conutries?

Sealth:

I wonder.Goth is highly far sighted person.Wondeful historical observer and able to see the future.Thank you For giving the real image of UIC.
I want to tell you that those individuals from the countries giving logistic help to UIC are singing meanigless songs.You can identify them from their common expression.
Alwas they love to use the word minority in the wrong way.And they are from a Tiny tiny country/countries.Forget them.The worled will take care of the Somali problem soon.
I would like to say "US has to pay an attention to those who bitterly Bleming this country even though they live freely and luxurioly in this country."

bashir ahmed:

The United States should really be careful here! what we have here is a super power that goes into panic mode everytime the word islam comes up, i would advice them to go to the ground, talk to the people on both sides of this mess here both the somali and ethiopian civilians who are the real victims.

fact:Meles zenawi is an evil-genious he uses the uninformed western powers to weaken,arrest,kill his oppositions internally and externally.

fact: even though the majority of somalis were against the islamic courts, within relative short period they have brought law and order in the somali capital that was missing for 15 years along the way gaining huge support.

the United States should not be depending on the intelligence analysis of men they know very little about. we all know what happened when they depended on the intelligence of Ahmed Chilabi in Iraq. and with Zenawi they are headed in the same direction, which is another mess, only this time not in the middle east but in the doorsteps of poverty in the horn of Africa.

Adam:

Bashir Goth, you are a god damn lier and not even a good one at that.

And for you people that want to see the US support Ethiopian brutal dictator Meles Zenawi and his minority brutal regime, take comfort. They already are! The Saddam Hussien of the Horn of Africa is getting all the help he can get from the United States of America including money, weaponary, as well as deplomatic backing to invade Somalian soveirgn territory. remember it was the United states that caused that joke of a resolution 1725 which called for the deployment of foriegn AU troops in Somalia, while at the same time the US REJECTING to incluse a wording that demands the withdrawal of Ethiopian troops from Somali territory.

Just the other week general Abizaid was flew to Addis Ababa in a secret meeting with brutal dictator Meles Zenawi to go over stratechy in the war in Somalia against the Union of Islamic Courts and to lend America's unwaivering support.

Bur remember, the mercenary criminal warlords which the Americans backed and some of them which even took part in the killings of the 19 US special forces in Mogadishu were part of them i.e. Abdi Qeydiid (who was then Aydiid's 2nd man in comand)

As for the so called Somali Government, I can till you it is nothing but a JOKE! Most of them are Ethiopian puppets and rose to power getting ellected by CLAN ELDERS who've been paid off abd bribed to death in a foreign country by the Ethiopians, in an effort to indirectly control Somalia and its assets. They can't even count on the support of their OWN population and people they claim to govern, forget about raising a Somali army that is able to withstand against the Somali forces of the Union of Islamic Courts. Most of the TFG are former and current warlords INCLUDING THE SO CALLED PRESIDENT HIMSELF ABDULLAHI YUSSUF.

This is why the TFG will never EVER rule Somalia, and you will see. The Ethiopian army will be ressisted and bushed back and as long as the United states is supporting the Ethiopians the Union of Islamic Courts has EVERY RIGHT to call on foriegn aid and help form Muslims against the enemies of the Somalia.

gobena:

bashir.....stop informing your stupid idea to the people. I'm Ethiopia myself TPLF so called meles zenawi crews have their own mission ( to stay in power). Somalia share the largest border with ethiopia, yes TPLF afraid the UIC due to their own interest conflict but not Ethiopia interest. 45 percent of Ethiopia itself are Muslims? Bashir truly u need to answer this question to your-self. This waging war is not Muslim vs Christian but it's TPLF idea to be that way just impress the western world. Again if Ethiopia get involved, what happened to the salient Muslim population that leaves in Ethiopia??? yes, Somali hates Ethiopia not because of their religion only but what Ethiopia did to Somalia for the last 16years again, and the Amharas technically and that is part of their gene which they can't help it I guess. Hey believe it or not my myself I don't support neither UIC or TFG (THE PUPPET GOVERNMENT OF MY COUNTRY) but that doesn't mean Ethiopia has right to go and crash UIC militias that is for Somali people to decide, in fact I believe what they have done is better then others such as the TFG or the warlord minister. one last question for bashir or the comment readers have anybody try to look the positive side of UIC? or Islamic word is bothering you......

Mekuria:

Excellent analysis.

Hile Gabriel:

This the silliest argument anyone can immagine. The great danger for Ethiopian Christians & christianity is Meles & his regime not Islamic court of Somalia.

Annissa Adem:

Mr Bashir Goth is a smart and educated man so do not attack him for telling us the truth.
In addition please let us try to talk the facts when we say things for example Mohamed Hussein from Mogadishu has said the Amhara people in ethiopia are 15% of the population that is a completely false because as an Ethiopian I know that the Amharas are over 33% of the population of Ethiopia, even though I am not an Amhara I know who and what lives in my country. For instance from the 13 provinces of ethiopia the provinces of Gunder, Gojam and Wolo are fully populated by Amhara ethnic people the remaining 9 provinces have the population from every trive except Tigrea. It is a known fact more than 3/4th of Shuwa province and the majority of Addis Ababa residents are Amhara so why Mr Mogadishu man wants to tell us the false information, it is also a fact that many other parts of Ethiopia provinces have many Amhara people so where did he get this Mohamed Hussein thing from Mogadishu his big lie. Mr Mogadishu man has to learn history before he talks the false information he learned from OLF and Shabia that Amhara people were not the single ruling party in Ethiopia most of the time even if we take as an example for the last 40 years starting from Meles if we go back we will find that many leaders were from other tribes it does not mean if someone speaks Amharic the leader of Ethiopia is an Amhara for instance Meles is a Tigrean before him Mengistu was his mother's side Amhara and his father's side Oromo, Mengistu himself has said this so I am not creating out of the blue. Before Mengistu the Ethiopian leader was a full Oromo blooded man his name was General Teferi Bante, before him General Aman Michael Amindom from Eritrea. Plus before those above leaders I mentioned so many past Ethiopian leaders were not always full blooded Amharas rather they were Amharic speaker laeders from other tribes most of the time mix with Oromo and Tigrean including Eritreans. Today in Ethiopia 60 to 75% of Ethiopians including me speak Amharic even though many of us are not from Amhara tribe. Why people like to see only our difference. Because our difference is not a significant factor or our difference is not a visible thing if we do not sppeak a word until we say I am from this or that tribe nobody would know from what tribe we are because our difference is not based on a skin color or other visible things. The Ethiopian people difference is only based on language plus since there is no a caste system in Ethiopia many people may not be what they claim if they think they are Amhara they may not be an Amhara or Oromo because their parents might have moved because of different reasons like marrage, tread, or other business related cases. Moving from place to place will diminish our language based difference especially today even the language difference has began to die out. It continues to exist only in few narrow minded tribal chiefs or lords like TPLF, OLF, Shibia and in few people's brain who are borne to think small things. By the way there is no difference among Tigreans and Eritreans they are the same people from the same background with similar culture and language and the same land. Their similarity can be compared with the Somalia land people and the other parts of Somalia people. They use to be under one adminstration before the Italians controlled Eritrea that was why they were killing each other on Badme land. Do you know that Esayas the todays Eritrean leader is from Tigrea and Meles the self appointed leader of Ethiopia and the butcher of Ethiopian people and the invader of Somalia is half Eritrean and half Tigrean. Remember also Meles does not represent the 70 millions of Ethiopians because he has massacred for the last 30 years especially for the last 15 years. Many Oromos, Aghiwak, Sidamas and other Ethiopians from different ethnic groups has been massacred and jailed. So he is not fighting the Islamic court for Ethiopia he is just fighting for himself and for the few he represents. Therefore please before you declare your crazy Jihad thing you need to know who you are fighting, my reason is I have heard that the Islamic court had declared Jihad on Ethiopia but you need to know one thing before your declaration of Jihad on Ethiopia Meles had already has declared his Jihad on the Ethiopian people for the last 15 years so do not waste your time by declaring your crazy Jihad. If I was you I would declare Jihad on Sudan Arabs to stopp the massacre of poor Darfur women and children instead of declaring Jihad on Ethiopia the mother of Bilal.

MIKEB:

...and the Tooth Fairy should leave coins under all f the little children's pillows, too. Cut the garbage. The United States has flat out NO ABILITY to effect what is happening anywhere in the world today and for at least the next decade. Bush and Cheney and the lunatics surrounding them have have not simply over extended our military, they have wrecked our economy, decimatd our standing in the world community, and their trade policies (coupled with the outrageous excesses of Wall Street) have rendered us technologically impotent. All of our most sensative technologies have been shipped to India and China. American engineers have been sacrificed by these parasites who troll the world, looking for the cheapest labor costs and bargain our latest and best technologies for increased quarterly dividends and multimillion dollar bonuses. It is problematic that we will even survive this President, so please spare us any future adventures. All they will accomplish is to make it certain that we will not survive. Somolia may be awful, North Korea certainly is dangerous, Iran may well mean increasingly sphisticated weapons in the hands of terrorists, and a resurgent and dictitorial Russia is a real danger to Europe. But we can do nothing. The idiot voters elected an even graver danger than all of these as President.

Hassan:

This writer is really misinforming the world. The facts remains in the past 16 years, the current Ethiopian Prime Minister was providing arms to all of the Somali warlords to make sure they continue killing each other and also to subjugate the Somali people. Even US is reported to have provided funds to these warlords.

The another reason this current Ethiopian Prime Minister was providing arms to all of the Somali warlords was to make sure no viable Somali state emerges.

In the above background, the Islamic Courts Union emerged and took on the warlords despite Ethiopia and US support. The UIC has managed to drive out the warlords in South and Central Somalia and also restored law and order. It is in this background that this current Ethiopian Prime Minister has decided to invade Somalia with the support of the USA.

We, the people of Somalia, have these two questions for the rest of world: 1) Where was the world when the warlords were massacaring our people and raping our women in the streets in the past 16 years? 2) Why do you insist to impose a goverment on us that is created by our enemy, the current Ethiopian Prime Minister, when we are taking our destiny into our own hands?

We, the Somali people, will resist any foreign invasion and every drop of our blood will be shed to make sure that we librate our country from TPLF army.

Mohamed Hussein, Mogadishu:

I don't like to get into tribes but Ilwaad is misinforming the readers of this blog. Yes Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, Yusuf Indhacade and Ayrow are of the clan he mentioned Ayr but the top leader of the Islamic courts the Amir-ul muminiin Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed is Abgal, his deputy Sheikh Abdirahaman Janaqow is Murusade, Sheikh Hassan Turki is Ogaaden, The Head of the Jubba Regions is Ogaden. The islamic courts are supported by over 70 members of the parliament who are living in Mogadishu and are not of the Ayr clan. The lead negotiators for the Islamic courts are Shiikhaal and Sacad. The minister of finance is Abgal. These Americans do not know all these facts and cannot even understand them therefore it is easy to fool them into thinking the Islamic courts has a narrow base in one Somali clan. But they were also falsely led into the Iraq with claims that everybody will welcome the foreign invading armies (US and UK) with flowers and rice. We now know how futile it is to listen to exiled agents.

One of the reasons the Islamic courts are very popular in Mogadishu is how just they have been in applying law and order there. Properties that the warlords the West called secular leaders gave to their followers have now been return to their rightful owners even if they no longer reside in Mogadishu. It was the warlords such as Mohamed Dheere and Hussein Aidid who robbed property and had checkpoints for extortion purposes all over Mogadishu. All those warlords are now in Baidoa or Ethiopia so please do not tell people that the Ethiopians and their stooges are bringing democracy and justice to Somalia. Doctor heal thyself! Zenawi should first honor the results of the elections, release all the political prisoners and step down so that democracy can flourish in Ethiopia.

tony:

Some analysts imply that terrorists could be tamed by being nice to them or giving in to their damands. If USA declared war on terror and followed up on it with the same intesity as it has been doing since 9/11 immediately after they attacked the African embassies, 9/11 could have been avoided. If the international community wants to avert a possible future breeding ground of terrorism, it should act now. US should give every military support to Ethiopia right now. Take out the the air ports, blockade the sea ports, and bomb the residences of the top terrorists in somalia. Otherwise, they are going to unleash havoc. Sanction the Eritrean leader who is sponsoring terrorism, as well.

Tofic Dulla:

Thank you Bashir

There is no doubt in my mind that these terrorists- the Jihadists- will face a humiliating and catastrophic defeat on the hands of the gallant and mighty army of Ethiopia. No one will be able to save these cockroaches from the wraths of the heroic forces of Ethiopia. Not even the do-nothing garbage- the Arab league or Shabia will be able to save the terrorists. The mighty army of Ethiopia can also give an everlasting lesson to the nannies of the Jihadists: Libya, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. These thuggish cockroaches will soon crumble like Hitler or Mosolonie.

Beza:

Dear editors

Watch out Bashir Goth is another pseduoname for the prime minister of Etiopia, Mr. Zenawi. This Zenawi is a proved lair and deciever.

Alem:

Mr. Bashir's rhetoric is sad and dangerous. He is adding fuel to the fire and is not in any way helping Ethiopia. This may have been written by the Ethiopian leader Meles Zenawi himself, who when he was rejected by Ethiopians at am election, is trying to take the whole country down with him, consumed in a fire created by regligious wars.

Trying to connect Ethiopian history of Christianity with the crimes of Bin Laden on 9/11 is only aimed to secure American support for a discredited regime in Ethiopia. It is not helpful for the 70 million people of Ethiopia who have lived with the Moslems around them as neigbors, friends, relative, etc. for millenia.

President Bush will not be there for Ethiopia when the nation will be attacked by Petro Dollar. It won't take billions to destroy Ethiopia by petro dollar. A few hundred millions provided by the Sheiks and Arab oli millionaires is enough. The US Congress would not care a hoot if Ethiopia goes up or down. Even now the US is acting as if it is not sending Meles as a proxy, when in actual fact Meles is merely acting as Bush's henchman in the region.

Sad Mr. Bashir. I know this is not your real name. Your name may be Meles, Bereket Simon, or Asgedom, or Hagos. But for people who don't know you, you might appear as advocating truth!! You are just another big liar. And you are doing a big damage to the poor and helpless people of Ethiopia who have to pay the real price for your satanic propaganda. I hope truth emerges and your false prophecy is proven wrong.

AK(PROUD SECULAR MUSLIM:

I AM PROUD ETHIOPIAN MUSLIM .I DONOT SEE WHY THIS PAPER EDITOR TELL THE WORLD TO GET INVO;VE IN INERNAL AFFAIR OF ANOTHER COUNTRY.BUT THE SAME EDITORS WILL NEVER DO THE SAME TO ISREAL .WE KNOW WHY,,,,,,,,,,,,MOST WRITERS AND EDITORS AND THE PAPER.S OWNER ARE JEWS.I HAVE READ THIS PAPER FOR OVER 10 YEAR WHILE LIVING IN DC AREA .I AM SPEAKING FROM EXIPRIANS.I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE SOMALIS AS AN ETHIOPIAN BUT AFRAID OF THE ETHIOPIAN GOVERMENT AND YOUR PAPER EDITORS NEVER MENTION ETHIOPIA IS OVER 45 PERSENT MUSLIM

Ilwaad:

Those who seem to be Somalis by the name they go. I know that you are just like the BBC Anchor, who is affiliated with top leaders of so called courts. Since you are supporting and intimidating those who tell the truth, since when did the leaders of the so called "courts" were practicing what really Islam teaches? Can you tell me why the courts didn't clean up Mogadishu first by 1) giving back all the property and wealthy that they robbed from the innocent civilians during the civil war in the early 90's when Barre Regime collapsed? 2)My other question is why all the top leaders are from the same lineage: Ayr, who are claiming they are teaching Islam, when they are still enjoying the wealth and the property they robbed from the civilians who left Mogadishu during the 90's. We all know that these top AYR Clan leaders are from Small town called Galgudud in the Central Somalia, 3) why are they In Mogadishu and the Lower and Middle Shabelle Slaving the Bantus and The Barawe (Minorities), who they slave for farming and subjugate. We all know what the agendas of these top three AYR leaders (INdha Adde, Aways, AbdiQasim(former President in 2000), and the Terrorist Hashi Ayrow), to Subjugate and Slave the rest of Somalis. We all know Somalis are strong and these evils will not win. These Ayr Leader (Aways and Ayrow) are part of the list of top terrorists and soon or later they will be caught.
Then what? A peaceful Somalia by the Grace of Allah
Ilwaad

ilwaad:

I totally agree with Mr. Goth because I was born in Mogadishu and I cannot even imagine going back there right now. One of the reasons I cannot go back is because these extremists are claiming they will rule SOmalia by the Qur'an, while one of the top leaders of the so called courts is a notorious drug dealer, who used use slave-like tactics by imposing people in the Middle Shabelle to do the Drug farms and then buying weopons from the profit of the drugs he sold to outsiders. Can you imagine this devil and his companions,who are now in charge of Mogadishu are closing down schools and shipping untrained children to the front lines of Baido. THey are using these innocent children and they are preaching this is "Jihad" against Ethiopians. THis is total lie because Ethiopia and Kenya Welcomed our somali refugee during the 90's when the civil war was going and they showed humanity to our fleeing civilians. Our neighboring countries are our brother and they deserve to live peacefully in the Horn of Africa.
One more thing I want to remind everyone is the biggest reason the so called courts are against the government is that these devils are occupying homes and government buildings and they know if the government comes to Mogadishu, they have to empty all the houses and the government properties they now enjoy. THese are blood suckers! They now open the doors for those who employ the worst violence possible (suicide bombs), never did it happen in the History of SOmalia. SOmalis are peaceful loving civilians and they need the international community help by helping the federal government, who are the ones who can bring stability to the country. Otherwise, the terror will not stay in the shores of Somalia only but the whole region and then it will spread to the rest of the WOrld. Specially, I urge the US to do more on helping the government of SOmalia to curb these these devils (the courts), before they expand their savageness.
THanks again Mr. Goth for this topic and please write more about this situation. Because We all know what the So called Courts are Preaching is not Islam but Savageness.
A Somalian Born Girl, who studied and lives in the US.

Peter Tosh:

Ismael, from your name you are a muslim, a follower of slave cult that is in conflict with Christians, Jews, Animists, Buddhists, atheists, communists, Hindus, and the disinterested. Sooner or later the ground will burn beneath your feet. You will get you wish to return to the 8th century, however it will not be spiritually but materially. Your time is coming.

Girma:


Fellows think this is a global issue and there must be a global response.

I suspect Bashir is right, just for the sake of the Somali people's basic rights. Does any body think totalitarian in the name of Islam with brutal laws like that of talaban for children and women of Somalia be acceptable? Do you think just before being a government the UIC declaring Ogden in Ethiopia and parts of Kenny as Somali, you think this type of government sustain any length. Don't they have to wait a little bit and present their case to the international community?

I can't see any future for them being a long lasting government even if they win any war, even if they defeat Ethiopia and Kenya. Their doctrine and philosophy of a government is out right pervert and by itself it is a recipe for destruction. Bashir don't worry, the gallant and brave children of Somalia will soon understand what these perverts are up to and will defend their ALLAH/GOD given rights to live in peace.

These pervert anarchists may create some inconvenience as they did to Somali for the
past 15 years, in the horn of Africa but, there is no doubt that peace and democracy loving of this planet will prevail at the end. I apologize to the readers and it is sad that, I have used some profanity words, due to the lack of words to describe these useless perverts.


I am an Ethiopian, wrote this response after reading some of the comments.

ismael:

melaku..as i understand your name, you are a christian and part of the invader of the musilim coutry, why you given your rubbish lecture for musilim ? you better study your bible and practice it first, instead of lecturing muslim principle and ideologies.

Melaku:

Religion is the apotheosis of the expression of freedom. It is not something that is shoved down peoples' throats by certain extremist imprudents of religious faction. If you've read the analysis and are still not convinced that the UIC is encroaching on Somalians' freedom, then go back and reread the analysis, and are still not convinced, then consider your religion. Not all Somalians feel the need to pray five times and day and if they mess up are willing to be beheaded. This Islamic group is clearly a threat to the unalienable rights that all Somalians are born to enjoy. No matter what your religious affiliation is, if you are a person of common principles, then you have automatically qualified to support any group that is trying to stop Taliban's extension in the horn of Africa, UIC.

James:

Accepting or stopping the Islamists is a task to be left to the Somalis. As you said, I don't accept the imposition of religion on people but if the Somalis are against that, they should say so and it is not Ethiopia's or any other country's business to go into Somalia and wage war. The Ethiopian people have no problem with the Islamists and it is only the tyrant government that is meddling in Somalia's affairs. The reason is one and only one: the government wants to establish a puppet government in Somalia that helps it fight agaist Ethiopia's opposition parties, which are struggling to achieve democracy for their suffering people.

ismael:

Mr. writer, i seen things you afraid of the muslim gov't not to rule the somali land, but which is not fair.while the other part of somalia people in drought and clane fighting. somali land was building infrastructurs and health sectors for northern somalia (italian colony land), so in my point of view you are trying to separate or divided the unity of somalian people which is well known in one religion and one language and cultured .it is not bad to stand for somali land but unity is always strength think abroad you will achieve it.and don't forget the Ethiopian mission is against our holly qurAn, if you are muslim and follow the rule of allah you never aside with christians "o ye who believe!take not the jews and christians for friends,they are friends one to another.he among you who taketh them for friends is (one)of them." (surah5:51)
and finally " slay them wherever ye'find them,and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out". (surah2:291)

mohammed a.:

The west is sleeping. While Col. Awey the brutal defamer of Islam is unleashing his cruelty. Keep on sleeping and lose christian Ethiopia, Africa, and western civilization. This are dangerous terrorists tied to Alkaeda who will never tire to work for the evil terrorist groups and they are also funded by them.

Muxamed:

One question for Mr. Bashir. Where have you been when the so called WARLORDS who had the 100% support from the Ethiopian ruler playing devide and rule and supplying all the weapons they wanted and were holding the rest of us Hostage?
For the Islamic Courts, they brought to us "reer Xamar" Somalis LAW and ORDER so for simple I don't care what you write about them " Islamic courts" I am for whatever means to enjoy LAW and ORDER.

Ali Seid:

Ethiopia is an ancient nation where Christiantity Islam and Judism introduced before any nation in our planet. The three religions co-existed in harmony for centuaries with the exception of Gragn Mohammed invasion and Queen judith coup deta. It is really sad how Awes the notorious Siad Bare Colonel painted Ethiopia and declare Jihad. The action of the current governmebt of Ethiopia should be supported because it will shortened the live of the terrorists who want to put the whole horn of Africa region to endless blood shade and satisfy thir thrist for the blood of innocents.

your momma:

go to hell

Lageb A:

Bashir's analysis is one of the very few intelligent analyses made on this topic. I would like to thank Washington Post for publishing such informative analysis.

It is a pity that the US government is waiting for another Taliban state to emerge and probably get stuck into another costly war when it is possible to destroy it at infancy. It is prudent for the US to support Ethiopia who cleverly recognized the danger in these group called UIC (actually the exteremist wing of UIC) to the whole horn of Africa region. More disturbing is US money is being used to support the UIC via Egypt, Saudi Arabia and etc (See UN report) who are the highest receipients of US aid or oil trade money.

Simon:

Bashir's article is an eye opener for me. I believe the secular Somali government needs to be supported in every way. Diplomatically, militarily and economially, the west should assist TFG ASAP.

nadew:

Somali Islamic court should be confronted with strong power before they get strong.
They are a cancer of the horn of Africa if they get chance they may make horn of africa as middle east. It is not time to seat and look. If we give them deaf ear and blind ayes we will pay it. It is not war of TPLF it is a war of peace and stabilization. So I see most of Ethiopian are bystanders and against for war .Every responsible person knows war is grim and distractive, but if some one coming with sword we can not fold our hand and wait them. We will attack them before they cross our boarder. Their land will be the land of war not Ethiopia. I do not support the gov, but when it comes to the "greater Somali" I will stand with Ethiopian gov. We can't repeat the history. We learned from our old mistakes enough is enough. Our political difference can not make as wrong decision " kebero yebre kolete yewadekale bela steketle walach" when we oppose should be based on reason and solution not by hate and looking for opportunity. Do you support the greater Somalia?

Sami Kebede:

Mr. Goth has given us a thorough analysis of what will happen inside Somalia and its neighbors if this dangerous movement comes to power. It is an extrimist movement which is not good for the people of Somalia and the region as a whole and it has to be stopped. I don't know why our government (the US government)didn't take action against this dangerous extrimist movement and nipped it in the bud. Not only the US and Ethiopia but the whole world should take decisive action against this cancer and stop it before it spreads to the head of the horn.

It is also clear that Eritrea is arming the Islamic movement not because it likes extrimist Islam but only to open a war front in the East and divert Ethiopia's attention from development. The mad man of Asmara has no goal other than to see a disturbed and weakened Ethiopia. In collaboration with Egypt, the Eritrean mad man got this oppportunity to organize what they jointly call "a grassroot movement" as their agent to fight Ethiopia. The Ethiopian government has done a superb job of helping the internationally recognized TFG and it has the duty to quash the movement before it gets stronger. My message to the Ethiopian oppostion is don't be sell outs and stand in solidarity with the government because what comes first is the country. One should understand that Egypt, Shabiay, Al-Itahad, OLF, ONLF, IFLO, didn't swear oath to bring about development and democracy in Ethiopia. All are there for one and only one goal, i.e. to destroy Ethiopia and bring chaos there. Each actor sees mess in Ethiopia from its own interest. Egypt see it from its use of the Nile and Shabiya wants pereferably weak, if not dismembered Ethiopia. ONLF wants a separate state, the Ogaden region and of course, OLF wants to "Liberate Oromia". IFLO is like UIC; it wants an Islamic Oromo Land, nothing less. Thus the alliance we see in and around Mogadishu is not an advocate of development and democracy in Ethiopia; rather it is anti-Ethiopian force. First thing first, UIC has to be defeated decisively and then we have to turn our attention to Eritrea. Actually Eritrea is on the path of self-distruction. We don't have to disturb this path by starting war with Shabiya but make life difficult for Issayas in different ways. Fortunately, EPRDF saw the danger but if the oppostion fails to see that same danger, it makes them all the more the servant of useless Shabiya.

A.T:

sources Washinton Post

ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia -- War or no war with Somalia, Mulunesh Abebayhu wants out. Out of her teaching job, where Ethiopian security forces constantly harass her because of her political views. Out of this city, where hundreds of protesters were killed by police bullets after disputed elections last year. And, if she can manage, out of this country that she believes has plunged into the abyss of dictatorship at the hands of its prime minister, Meles Zenawi, a staunch ally of the United States in the vulnerable Horn of Africa.

"He confuses the Westerners so that he can keep ruling," said Abebayhu, 54, an opposition member arrested along with an estimated 30,000 others in the sweeping post-election crackdown last year. "Our party does not believe in this war. Our priority is to eradicate poverty, not go to war. Meles knows this war is a way for his system to survive."

In particular, opponents of war say he is playing up the claim that there are al-Qaeda operatives within the Islamic Courts in order to maintain the support of the U.S. government, which relies on a steady flow of Ethiopian intelligence that some regional analysts say is of dubious value.

A recent attempt by Congress to sanction the Ethiopian government for widespread human rights violations failed after former Republican House leader Richard K. Armey (R-Tex.), lobbying on behalf of the Ethiopian government, argued that the United States needs Ethiopia in order to fight terrorism.

"We don't know why the Americans let them get away with it," said Abebayhu, who was denied her request for a U.S. visa and who said she receives death threats regularly.

Meanwhile, Meles has become so disliked in the city that people compare him unfavorably to the former dictator known as "the Butcher of Addis Ababa," Mengistu Haile Mariam, who was convicted last week of genocide after a trial lasting 12 years.

Around Victory Square, one of many roundabouts in this city of a thousand cafes and tin-patch markets, passersby offered opinions similar to that of Nemera Bersisa, 35, a record-keeper on his way home from work.

"I believe the Dergue regime is better than this one, even if they killed people," he said, referring to Mengistu's rule. "This regime is democratic only in words. They kill people without any law, and they arrest people without a reason. This government is trying to stay in power by using different mechanisms, like claiming the Somalis are invading. But this is not the case. Meles is trying to externalize his problems."

And those problems are vast.

After 12 years in power, Meles presides over a nation that still does not produce enough food to feed its own people, relying on the U.N. World Food Program to supplement struggling farmers. The number of people infected with HIV is rising every year: At least 500,000 Ethiopians are living with the virus now, according to government figures. At least half of the population lives on less than $1 a day, which is not enough to buy a single meal.

A smattering of new skyscrapers have gone up in Addis Ababa lately, and in recent years, the gaudy Sheraton Hotel was built, a fortified palace of marble and brass and $100 Scotch set amid a rusting neighborhood of leaning, one-room shacks. Locals call it Paradise in Hell.

Last year's elections began with high hopes and degenerated into a bloodbath. Opposition groups, who made significant gains but did not win a majority according to the national election board, accused the government of rigging the tally and flooded the streets to challenge the results. During the rallies in May and November last year, unarmed protesters were sprayed with bullets while others were hunted down, killed inside their homes and in their gardens, in front of children and neighbors.

Though the official government report released in October listed 197 demonstrators killed, some members of the government's own commission and human rights groups have estimated that the number could be as high as 600. Seven police officers were killed

Siham Nur:

First of all thank you Mr Bashir Goth for being a brave man. Because you have opened my eyes and many people like me will admire you for being a brave man. Please do not stopp to fight these evil people so called fendamentalists. I am sure if there are few more people like you in this world they will never win and they will not bring anymore pain and sufferage to millions of us. I want you to be careful because these evils do not have a thinking brain like you so stay safe and go ahead to light the truth.

nf:

As Ethiopia goes, so goes all of Africa, and so goes all western civilization. The bloodlust will begin when Christian Ethipoia
becomes part of the new Islamic caliphate and will snowball with each country conquered. Soon our new Iraq will be in Detroit. Laugh if you want, you sleeping fools.

tomw:

The somalis have proved repeatedly over the years that they are savages. I don't see why we should be overly concerned with what goes on in Somalia as long as it doesn't hurt the west. If they start exporting terror the west should level what's left of somalia.

Diriye Digaale:

Dec.23/06
Thank you Mr.Bashir,
I am one victims of this Islamists, but now I like to see them ruling stopid, ignorant Somali masses, because Somalis
cam mot be convezed anything bad, unless they touch and feel
the pain. let them rule Mogadishu till they honeymoon end and
they hate as Siad Barre. never let them spread to other regions of Puntaland and Baydhabo.
I agree you when you say they eliminate whole Somali calture
and music. I worned personally before even Siad Barre was there and movement of Akhwan Muslimin and Wahabi was its starting perid in Somalia. now you are talking. very late

Daniel:

I am a living witness as to the terrorist nature of Islamic court union leader, shek Dahir Aweys, who was the leader of Another terrorist group by the name Al ittand Al Islamiya. This terrorist organization was destroyed by the Ethiopian Army in the year 1996. Al Ittad was carrying out various terrorist activities in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia and also in the Eastern Ethiopia city of Dire Dawa before it was destroyed in 1996. When I was in Ethiopia I used to work for a privately owned building materials store. The owner of this store was killed by bomb planted by Al Ittad Al Islamiya in the Wabi Shebelle hotel reception room. So for any one who doubts the terrorist nature of ICU, this is one example of terrorist activity that was carried out by the order of Shek Dahir Aweys

Wario:

Bashir Goth,

First, you need to state your ethnic/national identity so that there is no hint of a conflict of interest in what you wrote. Are you or were you an Ethiopian, A Somalian, an Ethiopian of Somali background or other?

Second, the American troops dropped food aid to Somali flood victims not out of pure generosity but as part of their calculated and synical strategy of "fighting terrorism". Worse, they dropped food from the air while, at the same time, training, arming and financing the Ethiopian army that is commiting mass murder of ethnic Somalis in the Ethiopian region of Ogaden and in Somalia proper.

It would be good if the naive American readers got these and other conveniently overlooked facts about the ploy of Bush administration in the Horn of Africa!

Wario

Peter:

It is scary. This world getting more dangerous by the day.

jschm:

Is this our problem? Mr. Reid says Iraq is not our problem. Are we advocating US involvement to enforce embargoes or maybe the possibility of military action? What could they possible do to the US from Somailia? The UN should talk this to death. Maybe they can impose useless sanctions like they did on Iran.The UN has not teath to enforce anything because it is a corrupt organization. The analysis is correct but good luck getting any action from the defeatist agenda of a Democratic congress. The attitude is to let the UN mess it up and wait long enough for some other adminstration to have to deal with the problem. We can bury our heads in the sand and in 10 years have a bigger mess just like Iraq.

Ali, Kismayu:

This comment is for faryal, the person who denies the extremist nature of ICU. Read and learn.

WND GLOBAL JIHAD
Somali Islamist militiamen
raid wedding, beat woman
20 gunmen enforcing Sharia law confiscate
instruments from band playing 'satanic' music
Posted: July 8, 2006
6:50 p.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Days after a leading Somali cleric declared the death penalty for Muslims who failed to pray five times a day, militiamen loyal to the Islamic court cracked down on band music by raiding a wedding party in Mogadishu, confiscating instruments and beating a woman.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50980

faryal:

'beheading people for not praying fives times a day'..Come on!
This article is biased and not worth a reading...unless you happen to be a neocon ready to unleash the mighty power of the states.

sam:

Good Observation . I 100% agree with your analysis

Mark:

Why aren't Americans being informed about this dangerous movement? Is our government waiting for another 9-11?

Hussein Ali, Nairobi:

Zenawi is scared of the Islamic movement because he has first hand experience that a ragtag rebel movement could defeat a powerful government's military. He was the rebel leader of the TPLF which was the junior partner of the EPLF and they took on the mighty Ethiopian army and managed to defeat them leading to Mr. Zenawi becoming the head of state of Ethiopia. The Amharas who ruled Ethiopia at that time for decades are about 15% of the Ethiopian population. Mr. Zenawi is from Tigray and they make up only 3 to 4% of the population of Ethiopia.

The comparisons to Afghanistan are tired but a more accurate comparison is Iraq which was invaded just as Somalia is today and the Ethiopians who are far poorer and less powerful than the US do not stand a chance.

Mohamed Hussein, Mogadishu:

Goth sympathises with the imagined concerns of ethiopia but the fighting is occuring inside undisputed Somali territory hence the Somalis have a right and duty to defend their country. As for the polemic of comparing Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys to Hitler why doesn't Goth call for the arrest of Louis Michele the Humanitarian coordinator for the EU who met and had lunch with the Sheikh? Also, add the UN Secretary General's special envoy to Somalia Mr. Francois Fall who not only met the Sheikh but actually joined in prayer at the mosque in Mogadishu.

If Goth was an Ethiopian his writing would have been that of a Ethiopian Nationalist but given that he is a Somalia there is only one word that describes him appropriately - traitor.

Fisch, BN, Germany:

This seems to be bad propaganda. As far as it was known, the "Islamic" governement was the first gouvernement that did really gouvern in Somalia. Influenced by Usama, so what? Why should anybody care about this detail?

Atnafu:

Well said. I have nothing to add to Bashir Goth's well articulated argument against the fanatics in Mogadishu.

It is sad, though, the west seems to be complicent in the face of a serious threat from Somalia's fundamentalist group known as UIC. In fact, western media is minimizing the terrorist nature of the Islamic Courts to the bemusement of Ethiopians who were victims of UIC's terrorist outrage in the 1990s.

Moro Quemado:

Absolutely correct analysis of the issue. Today the UIC called for foreign fighters to assist them, no doubt because Eithiopia is kicking their arses. The US must provide any assistance requested by the Eithiopian Army including backing them with air support if necessary. If the UIC wants holy war then let them taste it in their flesh. Several fuel-air explosions over Mogadishu as well as attacking the UIC's food supply as an appertif would let the Somalis know of the terrible fate that awaits them.

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