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Rami G Khouri

Beirut, Lebanon

Rami George Khouri is a Palestinian-Jordanian and U.S. citizen whose family resides in Beirut, Amman, and Nazareth. He is editor at large, and former executive editor, of the Beirut-based Daily Star newspaper, published throughout the Middle East with the International Herald Tribune. An internationally syndicated political columnist and book author, he is also the first director of the Issam Fares Institute for Public Policy and International Affairs at the American University of Beirut, and also serves as a nonresident senior fellow at the Kennedy School of Harvard University and the Dubai School of Government. He was awarded the Pax Christi International Peace Prize for 2006. He teaches annually at American University of Beirut, University of Chicago and Northeastern University. He has been a fellow and visiting scholar at Harvard University, Mount Holyoke College, Syracuse University and Stanford University, and is a member of the Brookings Institution Task Force on US Relations with the Islamic World. He is a Fellow of the Palestinian Academic Society for the Study of International Affairs (Jerusalem), and a member of the Leadership Council of the Harvard University Divinity School. He also serves on the board of the East-West Institute, the Center for Contemporary Arab Studies at Georgetown University (USA), and the Jordan National Museum. He was editor-in-chief of the Jordan Times for seven years and for 18 years he was general manager of Al Kutba, Publishers, in Amman, Jordan, where he also served as a consultant to the Jordanian tourism ministry on biblical archaeological sites. He has hosted programs on archeology, history and current public affairs on Jordan Television and Radio Jordan, and often comments on Mideast issues in the international media. He has BA and MSc degrees respectively in political science and mass communications from Syracuse University, NY, USA. Close.

Rami G Khouri

Beirut, Lebanon

Rami George Khouri is a Palestinian-Jordanian and U.S. citizen whose family resides in Beirut, Amman, and Nazareth. He is editor at large, and former executive editor, of the Beirut-based Daily Star newspaper. more »

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Scorecard Blames Iraqis for U.S. Mistakes

The idea that the White House can lay out a scorecard for progress in Iraq after the death, destruction and regional turmoil it has unleashed is politically incredible and morally deficient. It smacks of yet another example of Western armies invading the Middle East and then blaming the shattered local societies themselves for being shattered.

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While the US military may grind it's teeth, and definitely have egg on their faces, Iraqis should know they are lucky a wimp is Commander in Chief.

A real man would have eliminated the concept of Caliphate and Allah from the earth, after evacuating Israelis from the middle east and turning it into a sea of glass, for 9/11, starting with Saudi.

God loves his sheep, but he loves his goats too.
If it were not so, all Arab Muslims would be dead by now.

The American military is completely capable of that, with the right Commander in Chief. The nations filled with whining rabble, muttering in their beards would do well to remember that.

Your hatred of America is your curse, Islam.
You bite the hand that feeds you.
R

Please Inform me:

My memory tells me why there have been bombings in Israel.

Years ago Gorby allowed emigres in Russia to leave for Israel.

Israel started settlements on the West Bank.

Youths were hurling sticks and stones at the Israeli soldiers.

Do not anyone tell me I did not watch the slaughter of kids hurling sticks and stones. I saw it. Anyone who denies it is a liar.

Soldiers killed over 600 Youths(is my recollection) before TV cameras were banned.

How many families wanted to kill Israelis as a result?

Is that correct?

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hey lets talk crusades.
i posted a date by date history of islam's first 50 years. murder after murder. now here is a summary of what lead up to the crusades.
The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after Rome itself was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.

846 Muslims sacking the capital of the Christian church. During the 8th and 9th centuries, the Arabs (known by mediaeval Italians as the Saracens) had begun to expand into Southern Italy during the Muslim conquest of Southern Italy. These newcomers, sailing from their bases in North Africa, had conquered Sicily and had begun a steady penetration of the peninsula.
Under Pope Paschal I (817-824), all the spoils of the holy martyrs were transferred into the walls of the city. When Rome was finally sacked in 846, Paschal's preparation did not prevent the robbery of Basilica of Saint Peter itself, nor of another major basilica, San Paolo fuori le Mura, both of which were outside the ancient fortifications.

To prevent a second such incident, in 852 Pope Leo IV commissioned the construction of another wall (so-called Leonine Wall) around an area on the opposite side of the Tiber from the seven hills of Rome. This enclosure has since become known as the Leonine City.

additionally - The Islamic conquest and domination of Sicily, as well as parts of southern Italy, is a process whose origin must be traced back in the general expansion of Islam from the 7th century onwards.

The first attacks from Islamic ships to Sicily, then part of the Eastern Roman Empire, occurred in 652: they were Arabs from Syria, led by Mu'àuia ibn-Hodeig of the Kinda tribe, and remained on the island for several years. The Byzantine exarch of Ravenna Olympius also came to Sicily but were unable to oust the invaders, who returned to Syria after collecting a large booty.

A second expedition occurred in 669. This time the strong, ravaging force consisted of 200 ships from Alexandria. They sacked Syracuse and returned to Egypt after a month of pillaging. After the Umayyad conquest of Africa (complete around 700), attacks from Muslim fleets repeated in 703, 728, 729, 730, 731, 733 and 734, the last two times meeting with a substantial Byzantine resistance.

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The conquered Sicilian population was subjected to the typical discrimination against the Infidel found in most Muslim dominated lands.

****They were permitted freedom of worship, but only if they accepted the inferior status of a dhimmi.****

As dhimmi they were subjected to extra taxation -- the jizya (poll tax) and the kharaj (land tax), which ensured that they were contributing to the upkeep of security and protection that the Muslim armies were providing them. There were restrictions on repairing or building new churches. The dhimmi could not bear arms or ride a horse and were required to wear distinctive clothes so that they could be easily identified as dhimmi. Some converted to Islam in order to leviate the additional taxes that they had to pay. This situation resulted in the spread of Islam among the inhabitants (whether by honest conviction or economic and societal compulsion). However, many Greek Christian communities managed to survive as dhimmi until the arrival of the Normans -- especially in the hill towns of Northeastern Sicily. These Sicilians generally welcomed the Norman invaders.

isn't 500 years of being attacked, sacking rome, enough to warrant a response? not if your islamic.

the only problem with the crusades is they failed to attack and destroy mecca and medina and kill off all the islamics.

Thermopylae:

"yet another example of Western armies invading the Middle East and then blaming the shattered local societies for being shattered and dysfunctional. .."

another example of the cult of victimization used by the apologists of barbarism to justify the unjustifiable.

the crusade against those who would topple civilization and replace it with a world of hobbesian hatred and conflict must continue unabated. islamobarbarism must remain sqarely in the western crosshairs, or the pax americana will succumb as surely as those of the previous defenders of humanity.

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I do not suffer from any sort of convenient Amnesia! Al-Sadr from Sadr City, with the support of al-Sistani reluctantly, and Iran whole-heartedly, DESTROYED the Iraqi's chances of ever having peace and a real Democracy. The emergance of al-Sadr with his very Hizbollah Type Mahdi Militia, was the beginning of the end of the beautiful Dream we tried so hard to share with the Iraqis!

The Dream was Freedom! Personal and Religious Freedom to live their lives like they had never known-only heard about from Iraqi's who had escaped from the Nightmare!

I was not Joking about the FACT, NO SINGLE PERSON OF ANY RELIGION IS THREATENED FOR IT IN AMERICA!

Iraq, should have been so lucky!

It is NOT TOO LATE! Look across your Border Iraqis at Iran and it's Morality Police! Is that what you want? Al-Sistani and al-Sadr sure do!

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I have great respect for you, but I must spell out certain truths.

You write " If the U.S. wants to leave, it should leave, and live with the terrible consequences -- but it should admit that invading Iraq was a catastrophe and that suddenly leaving Iraq will be an equally brutal catastrophe."

The question is not whether the US wants to leace or not. The question is NOT to apportion blame -- Khomieini had taught us that the US (read its imperislist policies, its mad obsession with unilateralism and wolrd hegemony) is the "Great Satan" and he was RIGHT! We (the Muslims -- Osama Bin Ladin, the Arabs Leaders and Pakistan's ISI, and a very small proportion the poorest section of the Muslim world's population who allowed themselves to be conned into beleiving that they had a golden opportunity to serve God , the Umma and Country by becoming 'mujahideen' in Afghanistan) , who cosied up to the CIA from the late 1970's up to 2001 to counter 'godless communism) ought to have known better at the time, learning from what had been done to Mossadegh and later to Ahmad Bazargan and Khomeini. But we deluded ourselves, even when warned by cognoscenti like Cooley whose 1999 book "Unholy Wars" is still full of prophesies that are being verified each new day that The Almighty allows us to live.

The question today is: even given the undeniable fact that blame for what has happened or will happen should be plcaed squarely at the door of George Bush and the US, what should be done.

YOU, Mister Khouri, should have the courage to say that the US MUST leave Iraq, without leaving behind any troops whatsoever, without any bases whatsoever, without any agreement with neighbouring future compradore countries or groups that, should the Iraqis choose to review the Oil Laws when the US has left, they will collaborate with the US to intervene to safeguard "US interests". Muqtada Sadr should have the courage to send the same message to the US and the UN and Iran and all neighbouring countries. Ayatollah Al Sistani should come out of his silence and send that same message. They should understand that that will commit them to wqorking together to stabilize the region -- they have the means to do so. The people of the region are Muslims. They are THE UMMA. They don't want a new Caliphate (that is an impossible pipe dream in today's world) but they have a right to demand of their their leaders a fair opportunity to implement enlightened democracy Islamic-style. Satisfying that demand is not beyond Muqtada Sadr and Al Sistani and Iraqi Sunni and Kurdish leaders working together with Mubarak, Ahmadi-Nejad, Musharraf, Bouteflika, and Indonesain Leaders, among others.
Yes, there might be ontinuing turmoil for some time to come, but that will be less the sooner the US leaves unconditionally.
The Quran says "Allah does not change the condition of a people until that people acts to change its won condition".

Wassalaam!

frank collins:

what group still has slavery - ISLAM! they appear to be moving darn slow.
and america outlawed the slave trade within 10 years of washington.
remember that slavery was from the british who bought them from the - all together class - ISLAMIC SLAVE TRADERS!
we fought a war to stop it - but islam still has it.
YES AMERICA HASW THE HIGH MORAL GROUND!
and the fact america listened to those poor people who needed to express their position and in response we changed the entire structure of the country.
islam kills the demonstrators and claims that the god of islam gave them permission to do it.

Patrick:

America's past of racism is in itself a fact of the inability of the US to move forward any faster than the Iraqi's have. Civil War is civil war, either here or abroad. The US has done nothing to restore dignity and honor to all Americans's, not just rich American's.

Poster's that claim somoe moral high ground should re-consider their own unique communities and decide if all the inhabitants in their communitie's live any better than the Iraqi's communitie's today. Race riots of the 70's in America are a reflection of Amercia's broken promises to her own people; Black American's; as well as the residents of New Orleans effected by Hurricane Katrina .

Sage Thrasher:

The U.S. reliance on benchmarks and other fashionable project management fads was what led Paul Bremmer to push self-government on the Iraqis before they were prepared to accept it. It was that rush that laid the seeds for what's going on now; that was the fatal mistake in Iraq.

In the absence of any ability to organize politically, over the last 3 decades Iraqis expressed their political will through religion--the only channel left to them. It was completely predictable therefore that the government would end up as sectarian as the political culture it was based on.

But now, can it be undone? The U.S. would be hard-pressed to overthrow another Iraqi government within so short a time, but failing that the best we can hope for is a de jure or de facto partition of power and control of the country along religious lines.

frank collins:

here is why there is no peace - ISLAM:
The Hadith No. 284, The Muslim, volume one, says that any Jew or Christian, who heard of Muhammad but did not convert to Islam, and died in disbelief, would rot in hell! Thus Islam withdraws from all Jews and Christians the right to believe in their faiths, and practice them as such.
"The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolators shall be in the Fire of Hell therein dwelling for ever; those are the worst of creatures. But those who believe, and do righteous deeds, those are the best of creatures..." (XCVIII: The Clear Sign: 5)
Here those Jews and Christians, who spurn Islam, have been lumped together with the idolators such as the Hindus, and classified as 'the worst of creatures'. Therefore the Koran commands:
"O believers, take not as your friends those of them, who were given the Book before you, and the unbelievers, who take your religion in mockery and as a sport..." (V: The Table: 60)
"The true believers say: Has not God ordered a chapter that commands the holy war" (Sura 47:22); or elsewhere: "Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, imprison them, besiege them, ambush them" (Sura 9:5); and, "Make war on unbelievers" (Sura 9:29). "When you come upon unbelievers, massacre them, tighten the bands of the captives that you will have taken. Then you will set them free, or you will release them for a ransom" (Sura 8:57).
"To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" (Sura 8:57). That is why it is necessary to Islamize them by force and by humiliation. And those who resist Islam and its founder must be chastised, according to the Koran: "Here is the fate of those who fight Allah and his messenger: you will put them to death or you will make them suffer the torture of the cross; you will cut their hands and their feet alternately. They will be driven from the country" (Sura 5:37).
"Do not display cowardice, and do not call the infidels to peace when you are superior to them" (Sura 47:22). THIS ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE PEACE SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE WAR AGAIN LATER.
4.89": They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
"4.90": Except those who reach a people between whom and you there is an alliance, or who come to you, their hearts shrinking from fighting you or fighting their own people; and if Allah had pleased, He would have given them power over you, so that they should have certainly fought you; therefore if they withdraw from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not given you a way against them.
"4.91": You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority."
or the islamics crying over the crusades when they started them. here is a little short history about that:
The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after Rome itself was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.
so tell us in what context do you put the war like history of islam, considering that they started the war before anyone ever knew about them. or why there are no longer any jews in mecca?

FRANK COLLINS:

if you are going to pretend to be me at least do it like i would.
and as for the pace of success in iran, its doing great. its not a video game.

in america we had been running our own lives for about 100 years when we declared we were separate - 1776.
we had a war in which only 1/3 wanted to break away and 1/3 wanted to stay. the other 1/3 did not care. during that war americans attacked americans, including hanging them in their own front yards in front of the families, and even burned down entire towns. it was pretty bad.
then we got free and were stuck with the articles of confederation, - jefferson was our first president under them. they did not work and we had 13 separate countries in economic combat with each other.
then we got a constitution, which had to be drafted in secret, and even when it was published there was a horrible battle over it and it had to be amended almost immediately. that would be the 1st 10 amendments - we call it the bill of rights.
our first president - washington - did not take office until 1779 - 13 years after the war for our freedom started.
even then we had battles with other countries and within 80 years we had a civil war that killed 620,000 brave american citizens - not counting civilians and those that died after that bloody 4 year war.
keeping that in mind - why is iraq running behind. they never ran themselves. are the subject of terrorists sneaking into the country and forces - sunni and shiite - continuing their 1400 year battle - that started with the death of that child rapist - moho. yes i call him a child rapist - that is what a person is who has sex with a 9 year old.
as for america, we have 3500 troops lost to this war in iraq, in 5+ years. that does not even come close to the civil war.
in ww1 in 18 months we lost about 50,000. during that same war the british had killed in one day - during the battle of the somme - 72,000. the entire battle - 90 days long - 1,000,000 dead. the christian armenians were slaughtered by islamic turks - 1.8 million during that same war.
ww2 american losses were 192,000 in 4 years. russia lost 12% of their population. germany was responsible for 35,000,000 dead, in 8 years. islam joined ww2 on the side of the nazi's.
dresden was 15 minutes of bombing - 35,000 dead. toyko - 2 night of bombing - 100,000 dead. battle for okawana - 92,000 dead.
sinking of hms hood - 12 minutes - 1412 dead.
1st day of the great invasion - d day - 6,000 dead and we thought we were lucky.
the battle of gettsburg in our civil war - 75,000 dead and wounded - 3 days.
this war has been going on since 911. in that time we have freed 50,000,000 people and islam keeps trying to enslave them again. now who is wrong. those who wish them to be free or those who want them as slaves.
when ww1 was over america had the only atomic bomb in the world. we could have taken the entire world, we didnt. we rebuilt it.
after ww2 - what did the democrats do to lose that war?
well they let the ussr ensliave another 250,000,000 people in eastern europe and america spent billions freeing them.
in china 500,000,000 million people were allowed to come under the communists, who murdered another 25,000,000 people.
it was the communists that then tried to take over even more of the world. we had korea thanks to the communishts and america lost another 50,000 dead to saving the korean people - that was 2 years.
the communists tried to spread dictotorships into nam and we spent 12 years and 54,000 americans to stop them there.
during our history america has spent its time, its blood and its treasure, to save and protect. no other country can say that with honesty.
america is the greatest country that has ever existed and we are again trying to raise a poor people above what they were.
and who is trying to keep them down? ISLAM!

SAM:

The only beneficiary from this ugly war is AIPAC and Israel against the national interests of this country and at the expense of the blood of our brave soldiers and the money of our taxpayers.Sometimes I wonder if we are really independent as we seem to be fully controlled from within by some malicious power centers whose only goal is to serve the interests of Israel even against the national interests of this great country.

Frank Collins:

It's only Israel/AIPAC and the mad neocons that started this disastrous war on Iraq which killed and maimed a million Iraqis,displaced five million more and killed over five thousand Americans-soldiers and contractors and tens of thousands maimed.

Bush and gang should be impeached and vulagr support to israel should be stopped before it statrs a nuclear war in the ME.

Shaan Khan:

Rami G Khouri

Once again a honest comment. I agree but unlike you , I do not seek a mea culpa from US. I just want US to leave ME alone. I think without external interference ME can heal itself and take care of its problems.

The only war US should fight from now onwards in a war to free itself from it colonial master, Israel. It is about time US took a good look at the falling dollar and its budget deficits and the rise of competition like China and India.

SAM:

LET'S NOT FOOL OURSELVES AND TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE REAL CAUSE OF ALL THIS HAVOC IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND IN THE WHOLE WORLD.IT'S THE CREATION OF THE ILLEGAL STATE OF ISRAEL ON THE RUINS OF PALESTINE.THIS IS THE STEM CELL THAT HAS BEEN BREEDING ALL CHAOS AND TERROR WORLDWIDE.UNLESS THIS ISSUE IS HANDLED ADEQUATELY AND ALL PALESTINIAN REFUGEES RETURN HOME,WE WILL BE FOOLING OURSELVES AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT INVISIBLE GHOSTS THAT WE CALL TERRORISTS.

robert Mackleer:

We need to stop trying to run the world from Washington DC. We know this is wrong. The problem is looking in the mirror, realising that this article's writer sees things clearly. Only then can we see well enough to correct our actions.

Roberto:

Jeff,

I think ad-hominem attacks do nothing to advance your position. All you said was that "we stand for something [...] freedom". Why don't you, instead of disqualifying Mr. Khouri based on his national origin, refute his arguments and propose yours. After all, one could argue that he has more to lose, since he lives in the neighborhood, and has seen an increase in the presence of al-quaida since the invation, and in large degree this increase is due to U.S. actions (this is the admission of the Bush administration, as stated in the report released yesterday and the subsequent press conference).

I agree with you in that "America hating" is easy to do. Bu so is "hating anyone who disagrees with me", which seems to be what you are doing in your response to Mr. Khouri's comment. Your should rather step back and reason your response. Why? Because by all accounts, including the Bush administration, since the invasion in 2003, Iraq and the surrounding region is more dangerous, not less; terrorism recruiting has increased, not decreased; iraqis are poorer, not wealthier, and they have less health care, not more; even by conservative estimates, between 50,000 and 100,000 civilians have died due to direct or indirect result of our actions. And the list goes on and on.

So you see, any reasonable person, even a strong supporter of the Bush administration, has to wonder if things could have been done better, if we actually did the right thing by invading another country without provocation in the first place, if we were told the truth before going to war, and many other questions one can pose.

I would submit to you that scrutiny, criticism, oversight, and outright opposition, are better for Bush than having a completely supine population and congress. IF you doubt this, just look at the previous six years, when congress neglected its duty to put checks and balances on the executive branch, and the administration incurred some of its worst errors and flat out ineptitude. So criticism is good, it helps the administration stay 0n its toes, correct mistakes before they turn into tragedies, and just maybe, listen to a different point of view.

In short, almost all objective evidence and hard data belie the Bush administration line that they have made the right decisions. Even if we take their assertions at face value and assume that they have always told the truth and behaved ethically, evidence to the contrary notwithstanding, this administration is at least guilty of gross incompetence and negligence. It is about time they come clean and come face to face with some hard facts, as well as with the American people as represented by the majority in congress. In the mean time Jeff, read my first post, and think before you attack the messenger, instead of actually putting forth a reasoned argument.

RAT-The:

Kudos Jeff!

As to the other comments directed at me, allow me to Retort!

As an American whose patience has completely run out with the Greed, Arrogance, Ignorance, Avarice, and Blood thirsty barbaric behavior and culpability of the supportive conspirators of the Murderers, I HAVE TO SAY I SPIT ON THE STUPID IRAQIS!

What's more I LAUGH AT THE SILLY IRAQIS, THE FOOLISH IRAQIS! THE LITTLE IRAQIS! Greedy, Barbarous and Cruel-The little silly people of Earth!

What a JOKE!!!!!


I, a Catholic person in America, can walk into any Religious Institution in this Country, Laugh about how I, a Catholic am SUPERIOR to them, and Criticize them!

And walk home all alone as safe as in my Mother's womb!

That is what we foolishly tried to offer to the sub-Cavemen in Iraq!-They prefer to live in the Darkest Ages!

I judge people by their actions!

And as far as the argument about our Politics Vs. Iraqs-I only wish they even had a Talking point to get stuck on! They are Voting entirely on and for their Sect to get everything! I do not think the two can be compared at all!

Jeff:

American hating is an easy accomplishment. Standing up for something that really counts takes much more fortitude. I can honestly see how an American review of the progress on American goals can be treated and dismissed with the aplomb Mr Khouri has used. After all Lebanon is such a much better example of how things should be run, isn't it? Hezbullah has more control than the government throughout the entire nation. They arm more people, they are provided rockets, from a friendly government, with which to bother their mortal enemy Israel. They are doing God's work....right? Please, until you can honestly say that the will of the Lebanese people is being reflected in a country with only one army and you are living in peace again....don't worry us with you claptrap about how evil we are. We actually do stand for something...something that can benefit you....freedom. You have it now in your ability to publish what you wish. You wouldn't have it if Iran and Iran's minions have their way. you'd be dead the minute they disagreed with your writings. Can you say the same if you lived in a US sphere of influence? Your freedom is paramount. If and only if wwe stay the course in Iraq will the Iraqis enjoy such freedom.

By the way, I'm new to your writings...did you write volumes on lost freedoms in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq under Sadaam, etc? Or is your venom solely for the benefit of us evil apostate Americans?

JMarra:

Mr. Khouri is absolutely right.

On behalf of better Americans than some who post here--people of whom I am deeply ashamed and outraged that they consider themselves humans, let alone Americans--I apologize to the people of Iraq and the Middle East, in Lebanon and in Palestine, for the crimes that the United States has committed there, and for George Bush's state-sponsored terrorism.

frank collins:

save the world - ban islam.

Roberto :

I believe Mr. Khouri is not making a new argument, he is only pointing out the obvious. More often than not, we Americans (and most people for that matter) don't know how to make a rational analysis of a given situation. Rather, we reach a conclusion in about half a second, and then dedicate the rest of our "reasoning" and "arguments" to defend the vitiated opinion. For and example just look at some of the opinions by some of the blog viewers (Lee, The Rat, et. al.).

I think a useful, albeit simple, analogy for the situation in Iraq would be the following: there is a house in a neighborhood, with some dysfunctional family members, but that pretty much keep to themselves; the other, bigger houses in the neighborhood accuse this family of meddling in other people businesses; therefore, the people in the neighborhood decide to meddle in the internal workings of this family, and to destroy the house and exercise judgment on some of the family members, thereby breaking up whatever tenuous unity they had; then we argue that it was for their own good, that we liberated them from their own tirany; then, when they keep on fighting, whilst we contribute to the fight by killing one or two of the members, we accuse the family of being dysfunctional and basically imply that they are to blame for the destruction of the house and the breakup of the family that we initiated; to top it all off, we side with some of the family members and give them weapons to fight the others, arguing that this will lead to a more peaceful house. If anyone in the neighborhood dares suggest otherwise, we accuse them of traitors, of being foolish, not caring, etc. And on and on.

I know this is a simplistic and reductionist analogy, but I believe it captures the essence of the situation. I agree with Mr. Khouri that we should at least have the gall to be honest with ourselves and the rest of the neighborhood, and take responsibility for our actions, including our mistakes, while stopping the fear mongering, the lies, the manipulation and information spin. Only then can we arrive at a possible, and acceptable solution for all.

Andrew:

Amen...

Chicago:

I find it funny that as Americans we call Iraqis hopeless because they cannot "get past their sectarian issues" to solve common problems...

yet look at our own blue state/red state government.

can we honestly say we are doing a much better job at resolving our own issues? the infighting in our own goverment is sickening. we are more interested in who has more power and who wins the argument than actually trying to come together and figure it all out.

looks like we have exported American democracy indeed and there is nothing worse than that kid in class who goes around telling everyone else how they are doing it wrong, when they obviously have their own problems.

Until we can get beyond this savior self-image that we are the know it all teachers and iraqis are "bad students" we won't get anywhere. we need to realize that we have not totally figured out this democracy thing yet either and that maybe with iraqis we can not only help them develop their democracy, but maybe we can learn how to improve our own democracy.

Imagine if we actually approach the situation like we were in the same boat, partners, people's whose fates really are tied together?

I'm not for leaving iraq (unless they really want us to), but i'm also not for the current approach. Iraqis don't need us to go in and help them. They need for us to go in and fight alongside them. Until we can understand the difference between those two things, we will be stuck...


Karen Porter:

To blame the Iraqis for not being able to develop a western-style "democracy" (I question this term) in a short period of time in the middle of incessant violence, very little clean water, insufficient and sporadic electricity, a "brain drain" of at least one quarter of Iraq's educated and middle-class citizens (necessary for change), lack of health care, unemployment, miserably hot weather, terror for even letting their kids go to school, deaths numbering in the hundreds of thousands - all conditions that would render most spoiled Americans dysfunctional crybabies - is patently absurd. This "blame-the-Iraqis" after the U.S. has devastated their country is the most inexcusable excuse the Bush nitwits have come up with. Unreal - at least, many Americans no longer listen to their drivel. IRAQ, I APOLOGIZE TO YOU FOR WHAT THE U.S. HAS DONE TO YOU. And we'll never fix it. The U.S. population, worshipping tax cuts and selfish hedonism to an extreme degree, will tire of hearing about Iraq and will refuse to pay for the damage this country has done - and will go begging and blackmailing Europe to fix the mess the U.S. has made. We can already hear it, "Europe, YOU have an interest in fixing Iraq....YOU can't let it be a failed state," while Americans turn to Paris Hilton and "American Idol" and quickly forget all about Iraq and all our valiant troops who have died there. They will also turn their heads away from our horribly disfigured, crippled, and traumatized troops who are alive. Turn on the TV and forget, America. That's what you're best at.

AMviennaVA:

Lee & Others: Where else are Sunnis & Shia fighting each other? For that matter, were they fighting each other in Iraq before we invaded? Before you state the principle that they have been fighting each other , etc. etc., please first try to eliminate the effect of our invasion and subsequent occupation.

RAT-The:

Mr. Khouri-You are wrong! The Iraqi's have created this mess by their own idiocy! The Religious Nut-Jobs that have turned the once SECULAR Country into a Deadly Sectarian Nightmare did not deserve the authority they assumed! The Shia Theocrats did not liberate Iraq. Non-Sectarian Coalition Members did! Thanks to the imbicile and truly gullible Sheeple in Iraq allowing a bunch of ignorant, belligerent, greedy Power Junkie Mullahs to make a sham out of the fledgling Country's democratic process, a full scale Civil War based ENTIRELY on Religious affiliations is destined to go down.
It is the only political solution left.
You see sir, the Iraqi's do not vote for anything but THEIR Sect! Sunni's want representation? They just need to make sure they have the largest group in the region! The persuasive Political argument used? MOVE OR DIE!
Same goes for the chicken shi'ites and the Devil worshipping Kurds!

Unfortunately for the world, the medieval morons are sitting in a strategic and important region of the world!

Also unfortunately for the World, Iran is NEVER going to be allowed to gain even one oil well! They have more than demonstrated that they use said revenues in very bad ways!

Yes, we CAN, and I DO, blame the brain-dead, gullible, greedy, and incredibly STUPID Iraqi's for being soooooo Damn DUMB, we cannot just give them their Country even with a half a trillion dollars to go with it!

Iraqi's are too stupid to live! Back up and secure the Borders, and let them just make themselves go away!

Lee:

Would the Iraqis rather go back to the way things were before the US invasion? Is the US responsible for "the death, destruction and regional turmoil it (the US) has unleashed" - or are the Iraqi's responsible? I doubt a democracy in Iraq is possible in the near future. It may take another dictator like Sadaam to bring calm to Iraq by force.

SAM:

War on terror is like war on ghosts that we can neither see nor feel around. How can anybody win a war against such an enemy who appears only when he decides to strike,who can be near you all the time without knowing it,who can be with you in the street,on the train,on the bus,on the flight,even near your house,school or garden.Let's be honest about it. This is not a conventional war that we used to know.Even with the most powerful neuclear weapons,we simply cannot win such a war.However,this doesn't mean that we have to give up or surrender to the enemy.We can simply eradicate all terrorists and terrorism by eliminating the major cause behind it.The illegal creation of Israel on the ruins of Palestine is the stem cell that has been breeding all chaos and trerror in the Middle East and in the whole world.Palestinians,being moslems or christians,were kicked out of their country to be replaced by jews from Europe,Ethiopia,Russia,Poland etc.
Unless the Palestinian issue is settled in a fair way to all concerned parties and unless all Palestinian refugees return home under UN resolutions, we will continue to fight ghosts for many years to come.

california condor:

One marvels why a perfectly unobjectionable, rational analysis by someone from Lebanon sets off tirades about all Muslims that wrongly claim all of Islam is a "terrorist cult". Do we believe it is proper to condemn all of Christianity -- all of its good works and spiritual insights -- because of the Inquisition, the Crusades, and corrupt, venal, often dangerously perverted priests, prelates and popes? Do we countenance hate against all Jews for the crimes and stupidities of the current Israeli government, who press reports suggest are incompetents, sex maniacs, liars, oppressors and warmongers who destroyed much of the infrastructure of Lebanon to counter the abduction of two Israeli soldiers? Please, fellow humans, let us not be drawn into the vortex of the bogus "clash of civilizations" and the rhetoric of hate merchants on every side. They market illusions and fantasies. The clash need never be if we can stay focused and rational and true to our better instincts and traditions.

Gill Doyle (California):

Iraqi society does seem dysfunctional, as Mr. Khouri says. Kurds, Sunnis, and Shia seem unable to work together to form a functioning Iraqi government. Question is: should the U.S. military stay in Iraq until this miracle occurs? Most Americans would be happy to see our military leave now. Further judgment of U.S. Iraq policy will happen in November 2008.

ChristineS:

An excellent article, with an often-unheard argument. The trend, from both Republicans and Democrats, of blaming Iraqis for not fixing a mess that we started, has never sat well with me. Unfortunately, I don't know have the answers of what we should do to repair the situation. More troops? Less troops? New missions? Partitioning Iraq? There aren't any good solutions, just options that are more or less dire than the others.

frank collins:

want to talk invasion - islam is the worst terrorist cult in the hisotry of the world.

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