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Iran Can Be Stopped; Use Harsh Sanctions, and Maybe Force

Jerusalem, Israel - If the current Iranian regime is allowed to obtain nuclear weapons, global terrorism will rise as sharply as the prospects for Middle East peace will drop. This scenario would also quash the Iranian people's yearning for freedom...

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Proliferating fear and hypocrisy

On Friday, September 23, Western countries collectively nipped in the bud a resolution initiated by Arab states at the UN nuclear agency demanding Israel sign the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), use atomic energy only for peaceful purposes, and help make the Middle East a nuclear weapons-free zone.

Through this act the Westerners demonstrably proved their hypocritical approach toward nuclear weapons proliferation and that they still look down at developing countries. This action was a continuation of the past colonial policies which "planted" Israel in the region.

Asking Israel to sign the NPT is not an extraordinary demand, and this was the least request on the part of countries which have asked the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to supervise Israel's nuclear activities.

Israel is widely believed to possess about 200 nuclear weapons. The Nuclear Threat Initiative, a U.S. advocacy group co-created by CNN founder Ted Turner and a former U.S. senator, said it believes Israel's nuclear arsenal "is comparable in quality and quantity to that of France and the United Kingdom."

Recently declassified British documents showed London helped Israel obtain its nuclear bomb 40 years ago. Israel's nuclear reactor was built with the help of the French near the town of Dimona in the Negev Desert.

All this shows that most Western countries don't worry about public opinion when the issue of the Zionist regime comes up. For example, people all over the world noticed how the West could not tolerate a non-binding IAEA resolution on Israel, let alone pressure on the country to respect UN Security Council resolutions and return the lands it has occupied.

On the other hand, the West has been putting extreme pressure on Iran to abandon its legal nuclear work or face economic sanctions.

Look at these double standards. One country has not signed the NPT and has manufactured nuclear weapons and the IAEA even stops short of asking it to sign the treaty, but another country is a signatory to the NPT and its nuclear activities are under the strict surveillance of the IAEA but it is asked to give up uranium enrichment, the most important part of its civilian nuclear program.

In view of these hypocritical and bullying approaches, the people of the region are quite right to become resentful of the West, as opinion polls suggest, and to consider all the West's claims about respect for international law and human rights to be sheer lies.

Some of these Western countries have been hypocritically pushing for peace in the Middle East. Yet, lasting peace will remain elusive as long as Arab lands are occupied and Israel's nuclear weapons program continues to cause the citizens of regional countries to lose sleep.

The international community is justified in its concern over proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, but scuppering a resolution which rightfully demands Israel use nuclear energy only for civilian purposes makes a mockery of the NPT. It is a shameful, astonishing, and discriminatory act by the West, which wants regional countries to remain in a permanent state of fear of Israel's nuclear weapons.

Anonymous:

Saul, next time when you write about Iran, think before writing.
The readers are not four year old kids.

Anonymous:

Propaganda Tricks of the West Against Iran's Nuclear Issue

Point no. 1: The Westerners' first propaganda trick (especially the US) against Iran's nuclear issues is using the phrase Nuclear Weapons.

Before I explain about the nuclear issue, I should first correctly elaborate on this propaganda trick by the westerners, especially Americans. In their propaganda the Americans said this in the beginning too, and now one unfortunately sees that some Europeans repeat it too and when they want to express their opinion about the nuclear issue they say, we are opposed to Iran's nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons are a grave danger. This is while Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons while they are opposed to nuclear weapons. This is a trick for deceiving their own public opinion. The discussion of nuclear weapons is not in Iran. Our officials have said it, the people have accepted it, governments have said it, and I have repeatedly said we are not after nuclear weapons. The uranium that Iran is enriching in the fuel cycle is 3-4 %. For making an atomic weapon or bomb it should be enriched 90 something percent. The great gap is clearly evident. We want to enrich the uranium that is ours, the mines that are ours, with the equipment that is ours and we have not borrowed from any one, our own children and youth have carried out this project, we want to enrich this uranium to 3-4% to be able to give the fuel to our Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant, which is half completed.

Point no. 2: The Westerners' 2nd propaganda trick (especially the US) against Iran's nuclear issues is using the phrase World Unanimity against Iran.

The 2nd propaganda trick is that the Europeans say and it is written in their press that there is world unanimity against Iran. No there is no such thing. There is no world unanimity. In Europe itself there are governments that are opposed to the method of extortion. We tell them that they exist. World unanimity is against atomic weapons, the center of which is the US and the most dangerous of which is the Zionist regime and some European governments. World unanimity is against this, otherwise all countries that wish to have such an independent technology support us. Their governments and nations support us. Which world unanimity? This is a lie. Even if there were world unanimity the nation would not give up its right but such a thing does not exist and they should know that God willing in a not too distant future our nation and youth will build a nuclear power plant themselves.

Iran's policy in the nuclear issue is the policy of negotiations, understanding and reinforcing trust.

Up to this point we have not breached any international pact or any bilateral or multilateral agreement, we have gone forward very calmly and logically, but we have said since the beginning and we repeat that the Iranian nation does not accept imposition, bullying and extortion from any one .Our policy is based on negotiations, understanding and reinforcing trust but trust should be reinforced by both sides. These 3 European countries say you should create trust, meaning you should do something for us to trust you. And I say to them you should do something for us to trust you, when you do something that leads to lack of trust, confidence building is necessary on that side if it is necessary on this side.

The will of the westerners is to make the Iranian nation dependent. The main discussion is over fuel, we want to produce the fuel of our nuclear power plant ourselves. They say don't produce it yourself, come and purchase it from us, what does this mean? It means that we stay dependent; that the Iranian nation remains dependent on nuclear fuel producing powers. If once they decide not to give us fuel, if they place conditions our nation and government will be forced to raise their hands and say we have no choice, our fuel our electricity depends on them it must come from that side otherwise our power plant will not work. They want this and want our nation to remain dependent. For us the nuclear issue is a scientific and economic issue, if we continue our path regarding the nuclear issue, in which thank God we have up to now been successful, and if we reach the end, this will be a scientific advance for the country. Iranian youth in the field of their expertise have proven their talent and scientific power. This is very valuable for us. It is also economical from the scientific and economical viewpoints. They say use the oil you have. Fossil fuels are non-renewable and ending resources. It is like as if you want to plant herbs in your garden or produce fruit and sell it to run your life and someone says no you should go and sell the things you have in your house that old remembrance you have, that historic gem, sell them and eat of it, sell the carpet underneath your feet and eat of it. That's what it means. We want our non renewable resources to be left for future generations, not that within 25 years we would not have any oil left and be forced to purchase our oil from the US or US elements. We want to have a replacement for oil and that is nuclear energy. They say no you should not have it. Use your oil. And if you want to have nuclear power plants you should purchase its fuel from us. This is bullying and its first bully is the US.

The Europeans should not speak in an expectant tone. Today we are not in the 19th century, the Iranian nation is not the nation that once was when a US and British puppet regime ruled here and had to accept whatever they said. No, today the Islamic Republic System depends on 70 million people. Today the Iranian nation and government and officials feel a sense of power like a mountain. We are not scared of anyone, we have the necessary power to defend our right and we will not overlook our rights and no one is allowed to make deals on the rights of our nation.

Point no. 3: - Iran's nuclear issue is a national and collective issue.

Fortunately in our country the nuclear issue is not a factional or group issue. It is a national and collective one and everyone believes in it.

Point no. 4: - The Europeans should also think more on the dimensions of this issue and not be influenced by the US and Zionist regime.

They should know that the US and the Zionist regime want no good for them and no good for us. The US wants to monopolize. It wants everyone to follow it. The Europeans should be wise enough not surrender to the US. We are thinking of carrying out a scientific task, an economic task, a task based on national interests. Our nation wants this too and we are resisting. It is obvious that the Americans' nuclear ballyhoo against Iran stems from their rancor toward the Islamic revolution. Regarding this controversial issue that the enemies, especially the most malicious of them, the US, have brought up against Iran, it comes as a pretext to pressure Iran. This scandal stems from the US rancor toward the Islamic Revolution because it cut the US hands off Iran and now they want to compensate for it. This marks the End Part One of the Book.

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Point no. 5: Those who falsely claim to support human rights violate human rights throughout the world

Those whose enmity and treachery toward human kind is brighter than the day accuse the Islamic republic of violating human rights and appear on the scene as supporters of human rights. The scandalized America whose prisons throughout the world, from Iraq to Afghanistan and other places, among them Abu Ghraib are the manifestation of catastrophe and antagonism with human rights and full brutality, today wants to rule the world. For today's human generation there is no greater deviation and failure than this that such people who are savage and blood thirsty like wolves should claim to support human rights. At the same time they have opened their mouths and begun to make baseless remarks against the Islamic republic.

Point no. 6: The goal of the Americans and their servants in the country is to deprive Iran from nuclear technology

Of course, the enemies carry out two tasks at the same time, on one hand they say baseless things like Iran is making an atomic bomb, Iran is a short distance away from the atom and if it decides it can attain nuclear weapons in a few months, and on the other hand they pretend that this is useless, you should not go after nuclear technology. Their servants and mercenaries inside the country also follow up these tasks, the same mercenaries who have always existed in our country and for this, they have put their writings and themselves at the service of what the Iranian nations' enemy pursues. With humiliation and flattery and with different languages they say that going after nuclear technology is no use.

Point no. 7: The Iranian nation relies on the system of popular rule and does not need nuclear weapons

But the truth is something else and there is a wide difference between nuclear technology and nuclear weapons. To reach nuclear weapons, uranium must be enriched more than 90% with a complicated technology and it needs someone who has the incentive to go after this. We do not have the incentive, we have not gone after it and we will not go after it. We do not need an atomic bomb and if today we have overcome the enemy it has not been with the atomic bomb. The Iranian nation has defeated the US for 50 years without the atomic bomb; rather it has been through our will, faith, awareness and unity. The Iranian nation has come to know what it wants, it knows the path and it has moved along it and is not scared of threats by this or that. That is why it has overcome the enemy not with the atomic bomb. Victory or defeat on the world's basic scenes does not depend on this. Today we are the model of popular rule, independence and national dignity for the Islamic world and the Islamic world has become mobilized against the US. The slogan of down with America chanted by the Iranian nation is being repeated today by all nations, thus we have not gone forward with the atomic bomb and victory on huge historic scenes is not obtained via nuclear weapons. Today the Zionist entity with more than 300 nuclear warheads is incapable in the face of the Palestinians. The Palestinians do not have guns; they have stones together with the support of will and faith. Our issue is not the issue of the atomic bomb. First of all, what do we need an atomic bomb for? Secondly, by using the atomic bomb it is not only the enemy that is killed, the other side too is killed and this is contrary to our belief and science. Attaining the atomic bomb that kills both the bad and the good is not the work of the Islamic system. But we are after nuclear technology and that is another issue. The only common thing between nuclear weapons and nuclear technology, which we pursue, is uranium. 90% enriched uranium is for the complex industry of nuclear weapons but 3-4% enriched uranium is for the fuel of nuclear power plants and today we have the Bushehr nuclear power plant. But look at the distance between 3-4 % and 90%.

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Point no. 8: The Iranian nation intends to produce nuclear fuel and reach independence in this field

What we are after is freedom to carry out our technological needs based on international law and there is no problem with it. All countries can produce 3-4% enriched uranium. Of course, there is an international pact too which we have accepted. If we do not have nuclear technology, tomorrow when the Bushehr Power Plant is constructed we will have to knock on other people' s doors and if one day for political, international or bilateral reasons they do not give us fuel we will no longer have a power plant. Thus they want you to have a heater but for the heater's fuel to be in their hands, that is they want to increase dependence by creating nuclear reactors.

Point no. 9: The main reasons for the US and Europe's concerns and ballyhoo about Iran

The first point in the US concern and reason for its ballyhoo against Iran is that it sees Iran has built a nuclear power plant and produces its fuel itself. If they had the oil and we needed it they would sell each bottle at an extremely high price, not as cheap as 20-30 dollars a barrel. But today we own the oil which if they owned they would be very happy that we were the consumers and they the producers, and they want to create the same equation in the case of nuclear fuel, that is to make us need them to provide our power plants' fuel.

Point no. 10: European and US concern and ballyhoo against Iran is because nuclear technology has become native in Iran

Another point of US concern is that nuclear science has grown in Iran, meaning it has become native , not that we have invented the machine but meaning that we have not knocked on their door to learn it and our own young experts have put this big machine into operation and reached results. They nurtured science among themselves and created technology. This is contrary to global arrogance's philosophy that wants countries to be under its domination and not have independence in science and technology and to need it. The Americans know that if today Iran is able to stand on the peak of this technology its righteous idea in the world, that is, the independence of the Islamic ummah will become the idea of Islamic nations and will draw the attention of minds. Thus they launch ballyhoo. The country's officials among them the president, the nuclear project officials and the foreign ministry have said the right thing and responded to the baseless remarks and expansionism of others. But I want this to be clear for the Iranian nation. The Iranian nation does not want to accept a double oppression. The Americans and Europeans voice concern that Iran might in this way attain nuclear weapons. If the Europeans or others really are saying the truth and are concerned about nuclear weapons we tell them not to be concerned; we are not after this. But if they are worried that the Iranian nation has this excelling technology, and has made it native and say that we must stop it they should know that the Iranian nation will not accept this. What today Iran's researchers, scientists and government are carrying out in the nuclear field is a big task to prevent dependence on foreigners and is in line with national independence. Those who make baseless claims should not try to spread talk about why Iran pursues nuclear technology. Nuclear technology is Iran's requirement. Today the world's advanced countries produce most of their electricity in their nuclear power plants.

Not from oil which produces smoke and will be finished and can also be turned into more precious things than fuel. Thus they want to deprive countries that have oil of this blessing; they say what do you want nuclear energy for. Must the oil of all countries finish and for us to extend our hand of need to you? We must say to them is the fate of other nations in your hands? Thus we must move toward nuclear technology and producing nuclear electricity, this is our country's need otherwise we will remain a century behind. Thus our national duty is to pursue nuclear energy and when we pursue this it must become native, for if it doesn't then we will still be dependent. Thus we must resist all pressures to make it native. Those who without knowing speak about nuclear energy becoming native do not understand that they are committing treason toward their nation. They are saying the same thing the US wants. Our national duty is to go after nuclear technology and similar technologies today. Something that would bring us close to the peak of the mountain Pursuing this is compulsory and for those who work in this field it is their duty to take our nation toward dignity and save them from this dependence.

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Point no. 11: The Iranian nation has attained nuclear technology without the help of others

We have attained nuclear technology by ourselves, no matter if the enemies become blind of jealousy. We were a member of the IAEA and had signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and according to its regulations others should have helped us. But the US and the Zionist circles discourage the world from helping us. Our youth, intellectuals and brilliant talents were able to gradually attain this technology within a number of years without anyone's help.

Nuclear technology is different from making the atomic bomb.

Nuclear technology is different from making the atomic bomb. Nuclear technology is considered scientific growth in a field that has many characteristics. Those who manufacture the atomic bomb divert this energy to make it. We do not want to build the atomic bomb and we are even opposed to having chemical weapons. Even when Iraq attacked us with chemical weapons, we did not try to make such weapons. These issues are contrary to our principles.

Point no. 12: Iran's nuclear technology is a national achievement

They say why should the Iranian nation use nuclear energy. The question is: Why should it not? The Iranian nation has not borrowed nuclear energy from you nor did it beg you for it. Our youth, scientists and brilliant talents were able to gain it. This is a national achievement. Their spokesmen say we are waiting to see the results of Iran's elections, then we will decide about the issue of peaceful nuclear technology in Iran. What do Iran's elections have to do with you? Elections belong to the Iranian nation. Whoever comes to power in these elections and becomes the people's president will not want nor will the nation allow him to take any step against their interests. The Islamic Revolution and the Islamic System have awakened the people. They have made the people acquainted with their national rights. They have unchained their talents so they can reach a high status.

Point no. 13: If matters take a turn for the worst, we ourselves will put on combat fatigue and get ready for sacrifice

Their threat is not limited to nuclear issues. My advice to the officials and nation is to ignore the enemies' threats in order to continue on their chosen path and do their work. Of course, related officials should be aware. I should also say this: we are not warmongers like the US statesmen. They are warmongers and pursue war, but when it comes to the nations' dignity and the country's interests we will offer sacrifices. We do not consider sacrifice to be exclusive to the people. After the September 11 events of 2001 in the US when the twin towers in New York were suspiciously attacked there was no sign of the US president and senior officials for two or three days. They were lost! But we are not like that. If God forbid, a bitter experience and test emerges for the nation we ourselves will put on combat fatigues and get ready for sacrifice.

Point no. 14: National solidarity is the most important weapon of the Iranian nation in the face of the enemy's threat

National solidarity is the most important weapon of the Iranian nation in the face of the enemy's threat. The Iranian nation does not need atomic weapons and bombs to nullify the enemies' threats. Our people's unity and clinging to the string of God and to divine faith is the most important weapon of the Iranian nation. This is a weapon that during the 27 years since the victory of the Islamic Revolution has shown its efficiency and will show it after this too. The negotiators and agents of the Islamic Republic of Iran are pursuing this, they are holding talks and working, they are following up the same red lines that the country's officials have mentioned in their open remarks, but what should seriously be told to the negotiating sides is that they should not think of trying to make the Iranian nation believe through incorrect and illogical remarks that they do not believe in logic. If the Iranian nation reaches the result that the other side is not committed to logic they will leave the talks, for someone who does not pursue logic how can he hold talks and be called progressive? In the past year we have shown that we pursue logic. They said we want you to be transparent we said alright, they are international regulations. IAEA inspectors can come and inspect so their concerns would be removed.

The Islamic Republic system has placed logic as the criterion for its work. Whenever it accepted anything it was with logic and whenever it rejected something it was with logic. Whenever they bullied us it showed their lack of logic. They do not have logic. They say you must suspend uranium enrichment for a long time. Why? What's' the relationship between transparency and suspending uranium enrichment? They have no relationship. But can they with their baseless remarks and remarks that belong to the colonial era, deprive nations of their rights and demands, especially a nation like Iran that is fully aware and alive? The negotiating sides should know that the Iranian nation is alive. And a living individual is logical, it moves, it thinks, it interacts, it defends and it punches when necessary. What we are saying in this regard is that the Islamic Republic will not accept moving without logic. The great Iranian nation, and if a threat is brought up in any way in the talks, it indicates lack of logic. If there is logic there will be no threat, if there is a threat it indicates lack of logic and lack of logic will prevent us from the principle of talks and continuing talks with the related sides, the IAEA and others.

Point no. 15: Nuclear challenge, a pretext for confronting countries

Today the policy of Global Arrogance is going after Islamic countries. One after another each of the Islamic states that shows weakness will be gobbled up. Their intention is destroy. They bring up allegations of violation of human rights. They politicize issues like nuclear ones. If today they are challenging Iran over the issue of nuclear technology tomorrow they can find the same pretext and similar ones in all Islamic countries. But the Iranian nation is resisting. We have a lively nation. We thank God. We do not claim we have succeeded in acting completely according to Islam. That is a very big claim. But the one step we have taken toward Islam, Islam has given us power. Islam has given our nation hope; it has brought our hearts closer to one another, and created hope and resistance in them. It has revived self-dignity in them. Our nation is not willing to become humiliated again. We must resist in the face of the enemy this way with these characteristics and by relying on these pillars.

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Point no. 16: One of the enemies' main goals is to keep the Islamic system preoccupied

I believe that Europe and the US are not really that concerned as they pretend to be about the nuclear issue. They know themselves that we are not after nuclear weapons. We repeat constantly and insist; they say no and shake their head. This is while they know we are not after nuclear weapons. One of the enemies' main goals is to make the Islamic system busy. To make the directors, officials, parliament, government and managers of the executive, judicial and legislative sectors busy, and if this issue is solved, then another one will be brought up.

Point no. 17: Iran's attaining nuclear technology is difficult for Global Arrogance to accept

For Global Arrogance it is difficult to accept that Iran has been able to take big strides in line with science and technology with its will and innate capabilities, like nuclear energy and they want the country's energy to always be dependent on oil which is influenced by policies of world powers. Arrogance wants to keep nations in its clutches with an invisible string and the Iranian nation does not accept this.

Point no. 17: The Europeans cannot prevent Iran from gaining access to nuclear technology by wasting time

We trust those who are negotiating on behalf of Iran and support them. But the other side should know that they cannot prevent Iran from gaining access to nuclear technology by wasting time. Our officials have calculated and their calculations are correct and their follow up of this issue is beneficial and necessary for the country's material, political and scientific progress. This is among our national interests and the officials have come to understand this and strongly defend it.

Point no. 18: Europe should not act under influence of US and Zionist regime in nuclear talks

If the Europeans want to reach a true understanding with Islamic Iran in this field, they should not act under influence of US and Zionist regime in nuclear talks. The Iranian nation is a big and civilized nation and has proven that this and they cannot deal with Iran like a backward and colonized nation; such an insult will not be forgiven by the Iranian people. Some European countries still live with the memories of the 19th and early 20th centuries. They should know that the day the British came to the Persian Gulf and the British military commander ruled all regional countries including Iran from inside the ship, is over. They should know that the era when Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was in this country so the Americans and British could tell him through their ambassadors who to appoint minister and prime minister, who to oust and how to use oil is over. They should know that the Iranian nation had not yet awakened that day. They should know that today they are faced with a nation that is awake and has a firm will. The country's officials should also not feel any fear about the enemy's threats and they are part of the nation. The European negotiating sides should know with what country they are speaking. And everyone should know that if the country's officials feel there is no seriousness in the talks they will change the trend, and things will change.

Point no. 19: The enemy is angry about Iran's progresses and considers it a threat

The nuclear issue and in reality the nuclear ballyhoo that the opponents have begun in the world is illogical. The US incentive is clear. Whatever can lead the Iranian nation toward independence and national might is a cause of the enemy's wrath. In the system of dominance and centers of world domination they look at the world like bait and they want to own everything including financial resources, wealth and the labor market of the world. The system of domination is in reality a chain of governments and powers behind which are companies and financial and economic centers. Those who determine the policies of the day are these companies and financial and economic centers. For example when US companies want to attain wealth and oil resources in the Middle East or support the Zionist regime they plan the Iraq war. The planning of war goes back to the hidden political and economic goals that big powers have. With this situation, whatever move any country makes that would lead to its national independence; growth and development are to their detriment. The big powers are ready to give us the airplane industry, but the engineers must assemble the main piece and hand over the old part. They are ready to give nuclear power plants to the former regime but not to the Islamic republic, for the former tyrannical regime was their supporter. Iran's youth in the Islamic republic attained nuclear technology with their efforts and this is bitter for them that is why they confront us. When the Islamic republic system was formed the dominating powers understood that this system is a threat to their power-seeking goals. The threat of the Islamic system for dominating powers is not because of Iran, rather it is because of the new things being said that are attractive for the Islamic world and international politics.

First they said the Islamic Republic would not remain, for when a country does not have technology and is also under sanctions it will not last. For this reason at the beginning they said the Islamic Republic would not last more than 2-5 months and they imposed economic, scientific, technological sanctions on us and imposed war on us to bury the Islamic republic in all sorts of problems. Now after 27 years the Islamic Republic has risen from underneath these problems, it is dependent on itself, it is hopeful, it has progressed in the technological field and has gained the first place in the world in many sensitive fields.

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Point no. 20: Iran's Amazing Scientific and Technical Progress

Countries that have mastered the nuclear fuel cycle are only 10 with the Islamic Republic being newest entry. In addition, the stem cells that our youth were able to produce, reproduce and freeze in laboratories and inject into the heart and bone marrow of patients have astounded world scientists. Iran is among the first 8 or 10 countries in this particular field. In the construction of dams Iran has achieved eye-catching progress. During the US-supported dictatorial regime of the pre-Islamic Revolution era, Iran had not more that 10 or 12 dams that were built by foreign technical assistance. But today, 27 years later, Iran has more than 70 dams that were designed and built by Iranian experts. Thanks to Iranian experts and their technological capabilities, the Islamic Republic is now among the top 6 countries in the world in the fields of dam-construction. In the field of defense industries, as well as in the area of expanding and strengthening the infrastructure, and developing of the Iranian culture, we have made amazing progress. However, despite these achievements, some want termites to eat away the cultural works.

Point no. 21: We do not want nuclear weapons; our nuclear weapons are our youth and our nation

We do not want nuclear weapons; our nuclear weapons are our youth and our nation. Whenever the heads of the judiciary, the executive and the legislature display their unanimity on this vital issue, the enemy in a fit of anger tears down its own garments. In the past years that the enemy has chanted the slogan of dual sovereignty or pluralism, and some simple and unsuspecting individuals inside the country have repeated it. What they mean by dual sovereignty is differences over the country's major issues. Fortunately, the Iranian nation is aware but it ought to be more vigilant for the enemy does not want political peace to reign in the country. The enemy wants to create tension in the universities, the bazaar, in the offices and among the workers.

Point no. 22: The US Accusation of Nuclear Weapons is a pretext. Actually the White House is worried about a Powerful, Advanced and Independent Iran

Today the threats and ballyhoo launched by US statesmen are related to the issue of nuclear energy and the lie that Iran is making nuclear weapons. Both the US president and the US officials have many times spoken about the danger of nuclear weapons that might be produced by Iran. They know well that their accusation of making nuclear weapons is a myth and there is no truth in it. This is not actually what they are worried about. Their real worry is the emergence of a powerful, advanced and independent Iran. They are opposed to Islamic Iran's progress. They know very well that we are not making nuclear weapons. They do not want this sensitive region that holds the world's major oil reserves and this country that is independent and lives in the light of Islam, to flourish and avail of modern technology and scientific progress.

Point no. 23: the US and the West Want a Totally Dependent Iran

The truth is that the West prefers that the countries of the Middle East region including Iran to always be dependent upon it. That is the reason they say: It is OK for you to have a nuclear power plant but you should purchase its fuel from us. A few years ago in one of my speeches in the holy city of Mashhad I said if the West and the Europeans had oil, which our country and the Middle East have today and if we had to buy this oil from them, they would have sold each barrel of oil more expensive than the dirt cheap price at which they purchase it today from the region. Moreover, they would not be willing to give us oil. They are concerned about everything that makes regional nations independent and keeps them on their own feet. They want this populated and oil rich region that has vast underground resources to be always in need them; thus they are opposed to technology. They are opposed to our youth becoming scientists; they are opposed to us having nuclear energy and if they could they would oppose our having oil resources. This is while in the past they took advantage of the inability of these countries' leaders and looted our oil. For many years Iran's oil was in the control of the British, they only gave a small amount of oil to the affiliated and incapable government of that time and took the rest of it for themselves. Then the Americans and others entered the scene and seized authority; that's what they want. They are concerned that a country like Iran can have a nuclear power plant and produce the fuel for this plant itself and not beg the Europeans and others; that is the issue.

Point no. 24: Nuclear Technology is Necessary for People's Life

Nuclear energy is a valuable technology and the product of advanced science and is necessary for people's life. Many of the power plants in developed countries are nuclear power plants. The production of electricity is one of the things nuclear energy does and this is a privilege for the country. They don't' want the Iranian nation to have this privilege, that is what the fight is about, but they are lying that they are afraid Iran might make an atomic bomb. They know that making an atomic bomb is not in our program. The Iranian nation should know, our youth should pay attention that what today is brought up in the Western especially US propaganda about nuclear energy is aimed at depriving the Iranian nation from this technological and scientific progress; this is our right, why should we be deprived? Yes it is the Iranian nation's right, it is science, it is technology, it is healthy for the environment, it has medical uses and it is a hope for progress for the country's youth. Thus undoubtedly our nation will not give it up.

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Point no. 25: Destroying Nations with Atomic Bombs is what the Americans themselves do

US politicians, who lie and create division in order to hide their mischievous goals, accuse Iran of trying to make nuclear warheads, to put them on ballistic missiles. We do not act like this toward our enemies. Destroying nations with atomic bombs is what the Americans themselves do. The US is the only country that has up to now committed such a big crime. The Westerners are the ones that have made chemical weapons and used them, and during the 8-year war they imposed on us through Iraq, they put these lethal internationally banned weapons at the disposal of Saddam and his tyrannical Ba'th minority regime. Moreover, in reaction to the catastrophes that occurred as a result they maintained silence and helped Saddam secretly. Islam does not allow us to use weapons of mass destruction. We use science for progress; unlike the pretexts of the American administration. Today, by the Grace of God, the Iranian people and government have more power and grandeur on the international scene.

Point no. 26: Those Simple & Unsuspecting Persons in Iran Should Know that Bringing up the Nuclear Issue is Only a Pretext for Threats

Of course, I should also let the Iranian nation know that those who grumble and say why have you stuck to nuclear energy are speaking in favor of the enemy without proper knowing and awareness. They should also know that today bringing up the nuclear issue is merely a pretext that the Americans are seeking to threaten us. The superpower considers that its dignity depends on threats. Bullying and domineering powers advance their tasks with threats, and world nations and many governments unfortunately give in to such threats, thus making the bullies dominate their affairs. Threats and pressures are part of their nature, and today their pretext for threats against Iran is nuclear energy; if not this, they will find another pretext.

Point no. 27: the US is the Biggest Violator of Human Rights and Sponsor of Terrorism

The regimes in the West are the main sponsors of terrorism but they accuse Islamic Iran and Muslims of terrorism. US soldiers and security forces commit the worst crimes in occupied Iraq and the Abu Ghraib prison, and there are also many other instances. They also insult people. They trample on people's rights in Afghanistan and in their jails in Guantanamo, and then they accuse others of violating human rights.

Point no. 28: The Proposal for European and other Countries to take part in Iran's Project for Producing Nuclear Fuel is Logical

Our suggestion that European and other countries could take part in Iran's project to produce nuclear fuel is a logical proposal. They can come and become our partners, and they can come here and cooperate. The Iranian nation will not overlook its inalienable right on the nuclear issue. We will not overlook our inalienable right and that is clear, this is the nations' right and no one can overlook or give up this right. The people want it and it belongs to them. No one has lent it or leased it to them so they can take it back. By the Grace of God, these are the fruits of the efforts of our talented youths. Of course, this progress is not confined to the nuclear issue only. This progress, innovation and creativity are also seen in many other fields. The European and other countries can come and be our partners; there is no problem in that.

Point no. 29: Today Global Arrogance is in a State of Confusion about the Scientific and Technical power as well as the Independence of the Iranian Nation

The issues that are brought up in the world today are important for us. You see, today Global Arrogance is in a state of confusion about the scientific and technical power as well as the independence of the Iranian nation. The ballyhoo it has launched over Iran's nuclear issue is because of its confusion and bewilderment. The domineering powers do not want and do not like other nations to enjoy scientific and technological power in an independent manner and outside their control. Now that they see that a nation without depending on them has been able to achieve sophisticated scientific technology they are concerned. The US president and others deceitfully keep up their accusations that we are manufacturing nuclear weapons; this is to justify their own angry stance. Otherwise they know that here, the issue is not the atomic issue. It is the issue of a nation's independence. They also try to influence international circles and these circles one after the other lose their credibility due to this undue influence.

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Point no. 30: The Westerners Drafted the NPT and Have Now Annulled its Validity

The westerners drafted the nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT), and now they themselves have annulled its validity. Why must nations surrender to the will of people who are not satisfied with anything except imposing force and domination? They give no value to other nations or to science, morality and ethics at the human level.

Point no. 31: Iran's Latest Move and Decision is its Final Say

This is the message of the Iranian people and the Islamic Revolution to the Muslim and all other countries. The historical step taken by the Islamic Republic is final. For over the past two-and-a-half years the Islamic Republic system has closed all ways for bringing up pretexts, and wherever there was a suspicion it provided the means for removing that suspicion. Thus at the end they were forced to announce that the issue is not suspicion over the making of nuclear weapons; rather the issue is nuclear technology.

Point no. 32: The westerners' goals especially the US and Britain in the nuclear issue is to keep Iran dependent and backward

They want the Iranian nation not to have this technology, to remain backward and dependent so that the distance between dominating nations and others will never be reduced. It is clear that this is not even worth listening to by the Iranian nation. They cannot compare this nation with the time the US and British ambassadors to Tehran sat and talked with Mohammad Reza Shah and he had to listen to what they said. That time has passed.

Point no. 33: The President's Instructions to the Iranian Atomic Energy Organization were to Safeguard the Iranian Nation's Dignity and Grandeur

Today the Iranian nation is active on all scenes. Today the officials are manifestation of the people's will as they should be. If there are officials in power who cannot reflect the Iranian people's dignity and national power they are not the nations' representatives. The president's issuing of instructions to the Iranian Atomic Energy Organization was proportionate to the Iranian nation's dignity and grandeur. Fortunately what the officials have done during this period and today has depended on expert work and the far-sightedness of the elites in political, international and technical affairs. They know what they are doing, and they have acted correctly. Those who are waiting for the Iranian nation to show weakness should know that the Iranian people, who are firm footed on the path of their dignity, national power and independence will not show any weakness in the face of threats. Our 27-year experience, the experience of the Islamic Revolution, of the 8-year imposed war and other instances, all make us understand this reality, and remind us that this country's national resolve should not be underestimated. The most important tool used by Global Arrogance is speaking in a harsh tone and frowning. If Islamic governments, 3rd world governments and world nations realize the value of their latent power, this tool of Global Arrogance will become ineffective. The Iranian nation knows its true value.

Anonymous:

President Ahmadinejad has asked the world why the Palestinians have had to pay the price for the past sins of the German Third Reich in their excessive tyranny towards the Jews of Europe. We may soon be observing the answer.

Anonymous:

This is a very clear reason why Israel is not recognized by many countries. The Zionist regime wipped " PALESTIN " off the map.

I enjoyed reading this messages:

"Consider the situation in Palestine:

The roots of the Palestinian problem go back to the Second World War. Under the pretext of protecting some of the survivors of that War, the land of Palestine was occupied through war, aggression and the displacement of millions of its inhabitants; it was placed under the control of some of the War survivors, bringing even larger population groups from elsewhere in the world, who had not been even affected by the Second World War; and a government was established in the territory of others with a population collected from across the world at the expense of driving millions of the rightful inhabitants of the land into a Diaspora and homelessness. This is a great tragedy with hardly a precedent in history. Refugees continue to live in temporary refugee camps, and many have died still hoping to one day return to their land. Can any logic, law or legal reasoning justify this tragedy? Can any member of the United Nations accept such a tragedy occurring in their own homeland?

The pretexts for the creation of the regime occupying Al-Qods Al-Sharif are so weak that its proponents want to silence any voice trying to merely speak about them, as they are concerned that shedding light on the facts would undermine the raison d'être of this regime, as it has. The tragedy does not end with the establishment of a regime in the territory of others. Regrettably, from its inception, that regime has been a constant source of threat and insecurity in the Middle East region, waging war and spilling blood and impeding the progress of regional countries, and has also been used by some powers as an instrument of division, coercion, and pressure on the people of the region. Reference to these historical realities may cause some disquiet among supporters of this regime. But these are sheer facts and not myth. History has unfolded before our eyes.

Worst yet, is the blanket and unwarranted support provided to this regime.

Just watch what is happening in the Palestinian land. People are being bombarded in their own homes and their children murdered in their own streets and alleys. But no authority, not even the Security Council, can afford them any support or protection. Why?

At the same time, a Government is formed democratically and through the free choice of the electorate in a part of the Palestinian territory. But instead of receiving the support of the so-called champions of democracy, its Ministers and Members of Parliament are illegally abducted and incarcerated in full view of the international community.

Which council or international organization stands up to protect this brutally besieged Government? And why can't the Security Council take any steps?

Let me here address Lebanon:

For thirty-three long days, the Lebanese lived under the barrage of fire and bombs and close to 1.5 million of them were displaced; meanwhile some members of the Security Council practically chose a path that provided ample opportunity for the aggressor to achieve its objectives militarily. We witnessed that the Security Council of the United Nations was practically incapacitated by certain powers to even call for a ceasefire. The Security Council sat idly by for so many days, witnessing the cruel scenes of atrocities against the Lebanese while tragedies such as Qana were persistently repeated. Why?

In all these cases, the answer is self-evident. When the power behind the hostilities is itself a permanent member of the Security Council, how then can this Council fulfill its responsibilities"

-- These cloudy days will come in to end and " PALESTIN" will shine again in the world map.

Anonymous:

Consider the situation in Palestine:

The roots of the Palestinian problem go back to the Second World War. Under the pretext of protecting some of the survivors of that War, the land of Palestine was occupied through war, aggression and the displacement of millions of its inhabitants; it was placed under the control of some of the War survivors, bringing even larger population groups from elsewhere in the world, who had not been even affected by the Second World War; and a government was established in the territory of others with a population collected from across the world at the expense of driving millions of the rightful inhabitants of the land into a Diaspora and homelessness. This is a great tragedy with hardly a precedent in history. Refugees continue to live in temporary refugee camps, and many have died still hoping to one day return to their land. Can any logic, law or legal reasoning justify this tragedy? Can any member of the United Nations accept such a tragedy occurring in their own homeland?

The pretexts for the creation of the regime occupying Al-Qods Al-Sharif are so weak that its proponents want to silence any voice trying to merely speak about them, as they are concerned that shedding light on the facts would undermine the raison d'être of this regime, as it has. The tragedy does not end with the establishment of a regime in the territory of others. Regrettably, from its inception, that regime has been a constant source of threat and insecurity in the Middle East region, waging war and spilling blood and impeding the progress of regional countries, and has also been used by some powers as an instrument of division, coercion, and pressure on the people of the region. Reference to these historical realities may cause some disquiet among supporters of this regime. But these are sheer facts and not myth. History has unfolded before our eyes.

Worst yet, is the blanket and unwarranted support provided to this regime.

Just watch what is happening in the Palestinian land. People are being bombarded in their own homes and their children murdered in their own streets and alleys. But no authority, not even the Security Council, can afford them any support or protection. Why?

At the same time, a Government is formed democratically and through the free choice of the electorate in a part of the Palestinian territory. But instead of receiving the support of the so-called champions of democracy, its Ministers and Members of Parliament are illegally abducted and incarcerated in full view of the international community.

Which council or international organization stands up to protect this brutally besieged Government? And why can't the Security Council take any steps?

Let me here address Lebanon:

For thirty-three long days, the Lebanese lived under the barrage of fire and bombs and close to 1.5 million of them were displaced; meanwhile some members of the Security Council practically chose a path that provided ample opportunity for the aggressor to achieve its objectives militarily. We witnessed that the Security Council of the United Nations was practically incapacitated by certain powers to even call for a ceasefire. The Security Council sat idly by for so many days, witnessing the cruel scenes of atrocities against the Lebanese while tragedies such as Qana were persistently repeated. Why?

In all these cases, the answer is self-evident. When the power behind the hostilities is itself a permanent member of the Security Council, how then can this Council fulfill its responsibilities

Anonymous:

Consider the situation in Palestine:

The roots of the Palestinian problem go back to the Second World War. Under the pretext of protecting some of the survivors of that War, the land of Palestine was occupied through war, aggression and the displacement of millions of its inhabitants; it was placed under the control of some of the War survivors, bringing even larger population groups from elsewhere in the world, who had not been even affected by the Second World War; and a government was established in the territory of others with a population collected from across the world at the expense of driving millions of the rightful inhabitants of the land into a Diaspora and homelessness. This is a great tragedy with hardly a precedent in history. Refugees continue to live in temporary refugee camps, and many have died still hoping to one day return to their land. Can any logic, law or legal reasoning justify this tragedy? Can any member of the United Nations accept such a tragedy occurring in their own homeland?

The pretexts for the creation of the regime occupying Al-Qods Al-Sharif are so weak that its proponents want to silence any voice trying to merely speak about them, as they are concerned that shedding light on the facts would undermine the raison d'être of this regime, as it has. The tragedy does not end with the establishment of a regime in the territory of others. Regrettably, from its inception, that regime has been a constant source of threat and insecurity in the Middle East region, waging war and spilling blood and impeding the progress of regional countries, and has also been used by some powers as an instrument of division, coercion, and pressure on the people of the region. Reference to these historical realities may cause some disquiet among supporters of this regime. But these are sheer facts and not myth. History has unfolded before our eyes.

Worst yet, is the blanket and unwarranted support provided to this regime.

Just watch what is happening in the Palestinian land. People are being bombarded in their own homes and their children murdered in their own streets and alleys. But no authority, not even the Security Council, can afford them any support or protection. Why?

At the same time, a Government is formed democratically and through the free choice of the electorate in a part of the Palestinian territory. But instead of receiving the support of the so-called champions of democracy, its Ministers and Members of Parliament are illegally abducted and incarcerated in full view of the international community.

Which council or international organization stands up to protect this brutally besieged Government? And why can't the Security Council take any steps?

Let me here address Lebanon:

For thirty-three long days, the Lebanese lived under the barrage of fire and bombs and close to 1.5 million of them were displaced; meanwhile some members of the Security Council practically chose a path that provided ample opportunity for the aggressor to achieve its objectives militarily. We witnessed that the Security Council of the United Nations was practically incapacitated by certain powers to even call for a ceasefire. The Security Council sat idly by for so many days, witnessing the cruel scenes of atrocities against the Lebanese while tragedies such as Qana were persistently repeated. Why?

In all these cases, the answer is self-evident. When the power behind the hostilities is itself a permanent member of the Security Council, how then can this Council fulfill its responsibilities

Amin:

Harry Lee, bear in mind a thought for the families of the 37 American service men killed by Israel in the false flag operation that was the attack on the USS Liberty.

Make peace with terrorists, yeah right... after we nuke them back to the stone age!

Unless they're Israel, who we will give billions of dollars to, and lose 3000 soldiers for to make it safe for it in the middle east.

Harry Lee:

Well. Iran and Hezbollah, combined has murdered more Americans than any other terrorist organization prior to 9/11. Whatever pro-Iran arguments you might have, bear a thought for the families of the 241 USMC and other services members who were murdered by these animals in Beirut. They demand that swift justice and retribution is delivered ASAP. Those Americans who choose to forget these heroes and their sacrifices, shame on you for abandoning those who died defending your way of life! Make peace with terrorists, yeah right....after we nuke them back to the stone age!

Anonymous:

Dear readers,

I found a good websites about Iran's news and thought to share with everyone who is interested:

www.irna.ir/en
www.tehrantimes.com
www.iran-daily.com

I think it is everyone's right to know the truth. We must stop Saul Singers from playing with us.

Saul Singer, I have a question from you:

We have heard enough about Iran's nuclear program,.... now we are interested to know more about Israel's nuclear bombs. It's been about 50-60 years of occupation of Palestin and creation of Israeli's fake government. How did you make hundreds of nuclear bombs in such a short time?! Who helped you and why???

from Wash DC:

Hey Saul,

You are a disgusting person, and Isreal's policies are even more disgusting. But what is most disgusting is that The Washington Post allows you to be published.

Gee, And I thought it was actually a NEWS-paper. Now I see that its simply a propeganda machine.

hate Zionists:

Zionists are the ROOT of tension in the middle east. They MUST be eliminated from the middle east. Everyone, Please do not write Israel in your comments, instead write: Occupied Palestin.
Zionists are ILLEGAL regime.

Saul Singer is not in a position to talk about Iran's peaceful nuclear program. It is even justified for Iran to have nuclear bomb, to PROTECT itself from Zionists and US threats. As long as Zionist, and other nations have nuclear bombs, they CAN NOT prevent Iran from it's nuclear program. If it is bad, then why they have it, and if it is good, why Iran should not have it?!

Eric:

Thanks to Hossein derakhshan, I have been banned to leave any cooment here. I think he is the frist and only panelist who deletes the comments and bannes the readers.

Discrete:

Support the Human Rights of the Iranian people with 'draconian sanctions' and the threat of force.

This is one the most ludicrous political opinions I've ever read.

Bazaari was right, you guys blow a fuse when the topic included 5 letter words like PEACE and LOGIC .. So I guess that rules out even the thought of REASONING.

Adel:

Hello everyone,

Please read this article carefully and forward it to all of your friends and family.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_charles__060829_corporate_globalizat.htm

Amir:

Well said Mark. I really enjoyed reading your comments.

These Zionist's exsistence is based on threats and lies. They control all the media and news in the West. They don't let people know the truth. Recently, they ciritized Mike Wallace for interviewing Mr. Ahmadinejad. They are so scared of their real face being exposed.
I am really tired and disgusted of their one way opinions and comments about Iran, Syria, Iraq...ect. We all need to hear other side of story too. How can we make a right judgment without hearing other sides opinions.

Why Zionists are afraid of researching of holocost. One shouldn't be afraid of truth. So, isn't it rising doubt?!

I don't think they will last any longer. We all have seen increasing global support for Iran, Lebanon and hezbollah resistant group.

Thanks to the internet, people are getting more and more aware of what's realy going on in the world.

This is just one example of Mr. Singer's human rights:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/08158F32-7C46-45D8-9D62-7131B69D84C7.htm

Mark Kraft:

I, too, find it very discouraging that Mr. Singer is choosing to use this weblog as a bully pulpit, rather than actually addressing his critics and their concerns. I would've at least liked to see him support his previous quotes, that indicated the need for regime change in Syria and Iran, in addition to Iraq and Afghanistan.

If he chooses to grossly overgeneralize and minimalize his critics as people who would "wish Israel away", even when they directly quote and critique his own statements... well, to me, that indicates a level of disrespect for his readers, which is frankly a common criticism of those who blog vs. those in the traditional media.

Mr. Singer, this is a weblog, not a column. It is interactive and participatory by design. You say something, and we publically respond.

So, when you say to us that we need to be prepared to bring the doctrine of regime change to Iran and to Syria, as you have in the past, or need to be prepared to impose painful -- and possibly lethal -- sanctions which may not do any good, and may, in fact, exacerbate the problem by punishing Iran's educated class and further distancing the Iranian people from the West, you had best be prepared to defend your arguments.

Frankly, I think doing so would be healthy for you, as you come off as either:

1> Being entirely too dogmatic, while lacking a firm factual underpinning. In other words, an intellectual lightweight.

2> Arrogant and disrespectful of your readers.

Mr. Singer, you suggest force, force, force, and the threat of force -- and ideally some other country's overstretched force -- as a solution to problems in the Middle East.

I ask you, how many of Israel's enemies has your country achieved peace with, by the use of unilateral force?

(Here that, Mr. Singer? It's the sound of crickets chirping...)

The only lasting peace treaties Israel has ever made are ones where the U.S. dragged your leaders -- often kicking and screaming -- and forced them to sit down at the table and negotiate in good faith.

Mr. Singer, your country needs the U.S., not to stand up for Israel right or wrong, but to tell your country "Sit down, shut up, and let's solve this thing NOW."

We need to be tough and demanding, not only on the Arabs, but on the Israelis too, in order to achieve a lasting peace. And whether you would like to believe it or not, the land that Israel occupies *IS* an obstacle for peace. If this were not the case, as you have previously claimed, then why did Israeli negotiators kill negotiations with Syria for a final settlement on the Golan Heights by denying them any access whatsoever to land bordering the eastern side Sea of Galilee, when clearly all of that land belonged to Syria prior to Israeli occupation of that land?

The land Israel occupies *IS* an issue, if only because Israel refuses to accept any impartial observer's reasonable definition of a just peace. A good example of this is the most recent negotiations with Syria on the Golan Heights, where Israel refused to give Syria *ANY* of the land that borders the Sea of Galilee, which is arguably the most important region, for without water, there is no settlement, no value to the land returned, and no life. On a local level, you would essentially be depriving the original owners of that land -- farmers, primarily -- of their livelihood. And why? Because Israel is unwilling to return the most vital resources it holds on to. In fact, Israel's own government has mentioned that this region cannot be given back, because it safeguards Israel's water supply.

But all that water wasn't "Israel's water supply", Mr. Singer.

To suggest that the occupied land doesn't matter is an indefensible position, UNLESS you believe that the ends justify the means and that might makes right. Lots of political philosophies do believe this. Neoconservatives, totalitarians, fascist governments, etc.

What I would like to know is where are you in that spectrum, Mr. Singer. What wouldn't you do, which of your God's laws wouldn't you turn a blind eye to, and whose rights wouldn't you be willing to impinge upon in order to achieve "security"?

Amin:

I want Israelis to be free of the idealogy of Zionism. Jews deserve better to follow a 19th century idealogy framed on European racism. Palestinians deserve better to be forced to live outside of their land because they don't fit in the Zionists' vision of a Jewish state.

Amin:

"The Iranian regime wants Israel destroyed, which can only be accomplished through genocide against my family, my country, and my people. I don't want Iran destroyed, I want Iranians to be free."

It is only in your lying hypocritical mind that you see a desire to end the Zionists' occupation of Palestinian land and the end of the Jewish exclusivity of Israel with wanting to commit genocide.

Eric:

Please read the following entries from Hoder's blog.

21 October 2004:
(http://hoder.com/weblog/archives/012552.shtml)
I don't believe that the majority of Iranians, who are being portrayed by the Western media as united to defend the right of the regime to achieve nuclear technology, really understand what the implications of such achievement are. Needless to say that if people were aware of how easily this technology, if not curbed by the UN, could be used by the regime to produce nuclear weapons, and how such power could weaken the already humble foundations of democracy in Iran by giving more military power to the most radical and fundamentalist parts of the regime, they'd hardly be backing it as they do now - if we accept that they really are.

21 October 2004 (persian weblog):
http://i.hoder.com/archives/2004/10/041021_012553.shtml
It's really a shame that people have been kept uninformed about the dangers of achieving nukes by this regime and now a few dozen are deciding for the future of millions of ordinary Iranians.

Amir:

Mr.Singer,

That would be nice if you could answer all the comments and questions in this room, not just the ones you feel more in common.

Second, we don't call the people who fight to free their county " terrorist". The real terrorists are the ones who occupied their countries and killing them on daily basis.

How can you talk about human rights in Iran after what you have done to Lebanese people. Still cluster bombs are killing childrens every day.

Iran's goverment doesn't want to destroy Israel as you mistranslate their comments. They want Zionist regime to end the accupation of Palestin so the people can return to their own land and decide their own goverment, no bomb, no threat.

Third, the history of Zionist regime shows that it never respected any international laws, so how can such a violent regime is allowed to have a nuclear bombs but, Iran can not be allowed to have even peaceful nuclear program?!

Thom:

Well, Mr. Singer,
Some of us would rather treat Iran as a sovereign nation, than as a child who had misbehaved.
Iran is a country with different peoples, different opinions, and human beings, much like Israel and the US. The only difference between us and them, is power. We have it, they do not, but they're going to, and (gasp) might we not.
It is important to treat others as you wish to be, because some day down the line, the shoe may be on the other foot.

one more point:
Where in the US Constitution or the Israeli equivalent does it say that you (we) get to decide whether or not another country gets to use a certain type of power, or obtain a certain kind of weapon?

Ours has no such entry, does yours?

Saul Singer:

Wading through the responses to my post, most of which seemed to either wish Israel out of existence or urge Jerusalem to bomb Teheran without delay, I was touched by the posts by Shahla, Babak Tashak, and Afsaaneh, all writing from Iran.

The latter wrote, "I am an Iranian doctor and 2 years after my graduation I am still looking for a job. While the Islamic government of Iran is donating money that belongs to me and other young Iranians, to Lebanese terrorists and other Arabs. Nuclear energy is an scam of this government. We want Islamists out of Iran."

Free people everywhere must stand with those who are not.

The Iranian regime wants Israel destroyed, which can only be accomplished through genocide against my family, my country, and my people. I don't want Iran destroyed, I want Iranians to be free.

I feel more in common with these Iranians who, deprived of freedom, know what it means, than with those who live in freedom and yet seem to regard America and Israel as their great enemies.

Thom:

So Robert,
You have hit the nail on the head.

What you wrote is the prime example that sanctions won't work. If there were no sanctions Iran might be a productive part of the international community. With sanctions, it's economy is dying, people can't find jobs, and leave the country. Leaving people with fewer options in the country and in charge.
Not to mention that it is the moderates who are forced to leave to find jobs.

So, are sanctions a good idea? Clearly not

Robert:

Mark Kraft, you had me until that last post of yours. I agree in general with your statements, but you get on your high horse a little too much without knowing some important facts. You say:

"You can't win over the Iranian people with bombs, but you may be able to do it with mobile phones and the internet. As an Iranian, you should consider doing what you can to encourage information technology that empowers your fellow citizens to communicate freely with each other. There are many ways of doing this. Encourage the private use of encryption technology."

The fact is that mobile phones and internet are widely available in Iran, which is why the majority of the youth or pro-West. They have access to news and read it more readily than the average teenager here in the U.S. Iran, next to Israel, has the highest percentage of internet users in the middle east. Farsi is the third most used language on the internet in Asia, behind english and chinese. Just about everybody has mobile phones, even in small provinces.

Then you say something that is absolutely stupid:

"Take the time to educate young people in medicine, in technology, and to see to it that they don't grow up to be Islamists."

The truth is that Iran has one of the largest rates of literacy in Asia. It has the largest amount of Brain Drain in Asia over the last few years. It produces hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Doctors, Scientists, Engineers, Physicists, chemists per year. The problem is that they graduate with no prospects for jobs inside the country, so they go to Canada, Italy, and India. Yes, even India taps into the expertise that Iranian professionals provide. Many Iranian doctors go to India and prosper. Those who stay behind are either unemployed, or get multiple low wage jobs, and a few are lucky enough to get stable government jobs.

If the sanctions were not in place, outsourcing to Iran would be a very attractive option, especially with the rising costs and issues with outsourcing to India. The sanctions have not limited the Iranian from accessing technology and reverse engineering it.

In oppressed societies such as Iran, USSR and former Soviet Bloc countries, a few things that thrive are education, sports, and an appreciation for secular democracy. This is why in U.S. colleges, you found so many eastern european teachers and researchers in the fields of engineering and science.

Khalil Mohajer:

After carefully considering your article and the post comments of the readers. I'm delighted to remind you in an ordinary American way that:

"your doggy just doesn't bite any more."

Amin:

Israel is a terrorist state that has engaged in illegal occupation for 38+ years. Iran is giving financial support to the only resistance groups in the area. That these groups have engaged in suicide bomings in reaction to this illegal occupation, is partly Iran's responsiblity, but it is no less a grievous responsibility than what the US bares for supporting the Jewish terror state that perpetually keeps the entire Palestinian population under PERPETUAL MILITARY OCCUPATION.

THE OCCUPATION MUST END.

ALL SETTLEMENTS THAT THE JEWISH STATE ENCOURAGED MUST BE DISMANTLED.

ZIONISTS LIKE SAUL SINGER MUST BE CONDEMNED.

sami:

Mark kraft I admire your comment... that is so true.
I do not want to be rude or anything, but I live in Iran myself and it is only uneducated people that talk like shahla, afsaaneh, and Babak Tashak, Many of our people are being completely brainwashed by Exiled Iranian channels which ofcourse is funded by US+Israel, these channels always blame Iranian government for not serving its people right without giving any good reason, so therefore these people think that, if Iran is given a chance(which they have and they are going towards it) Iran should rejuvenate in just a year, and forgetting about the war and the revolution, which has dramatically dropped the countries economy. It is not a toy, it's a country we are rebuilding, so please understand people

Cyrus:

Mr. Singer, I would suggest you to read the following article:

http://www.akazemi.homestead.com/files/U.S._Intervention.doc

Thanks.

Cyrus:

So much pressure on Iran, makes me believe that maybe Iran is doing right things. Those who are advocating force and violance against Iran, could not be, and are not in any way friends of Iranians, nomatter the current Iranian regime or any other one. These advocates of violance are after their own agenda.
Poor american people who will pay for it.

Anonymous:

"the only way to defeat religious freaks is to kill them. they are enemy combatants, so they don't deserve mercy."

Those religious freaks, besides being the family members of those we would wish to liberate, also tend to hide amongst the civilian population, using guerrilla warfare tactics because they lack the ability to muster a standing army that could seriously oppose a major power in any other conventional way.

So, what you are saying basically is that we should invade their countries, go into their cities, bomb their infrastructure, bomb or shoot whoever we may consider a threat -- which, in the case of the most recent conflict, meant killing about ten civilians for every one Hezbollah -- get exposed to IEDs and ambushes from an enemy who refuses to come out and fight, and watch as the country turns into a failed state that breeds terrorism?

Haven't we tried this already? And if so, how does this defeat religious freaks? If anything, you'd think you'd get a bunch of desperate Arabs talking about the end of the world, praying for the return of the Mahdi -- their version of Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

Oh, wait... we've already got that in Iraq, with Moqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi army! and Ahmadinejad in Iran also plays upon these religious feelings, too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/14/wiran14.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/01/14/ixworld.html

Do you really think you can kill enough people -- without making new enemies -- in order to somehow eradicate a deeply and widely held religious belief?

As regretable as these "religious freaks" are, they aren't the cause of 9/11. Terrorists were. One does not necesarily equal the other.

Our nation's policies should target known terrorists who are currently committing terrorist acts, ideally avoiding civilian deaths, in order to avoid creating more terrorists.

That doesn't mean more invasions and more occupations we can't afford. That means going after training camps, going after their funding, and using highly targeted attacks designed to minimize collateral damage.

Our military's own statistics show that most of the people we fight in Iraq aren't foriegn terrorists. They are Iraqi resistance. And after 200,000 Iraqi deaths, is there any wonder that the resistance is as strong as it's ever been in that country?

marshmallow:

This article is an over-statement and exaggerated by our Jewish friend here. Last time I checked Iran attacked another country was 350 years ago, and last time I checked about USA and Israel; well you know when! (e.g. Iraq, Palastine, Lebanon...and many other countries). History has taught us that when you are on top you have no where to go but down; so this page of history is won by Jews/US. Then was another country and before then was Persia.... and they all came down.

As an Iranian, I don't sympathize with Iranian regime but neither do it for US/Israel cause.So, don't be fooled!

Azrael:

The disconnect between reality and perception for u.s. policy makers and wonks is startling. Surely providence has a twisted sense of humour to place so much power and potential in the hands of children and fools. The iranian leadership grows up on a strict diet of aristotelian logic, chess and bloody service abroad in the revolutionary guards. The u.s. leadership seems stuffed to the bursting point with fans of rush limbaugh, fox news devotees and yacht club members. Surely, if sun tzu were alive today , he would explain in polemic terms why the iranians are eating the u.s.'s lunch at every turn.
Forget about disarming the iranian theology of anything, focus more on putting your house back in order. Sweep the parasites out of your capital and address the pressing needs of your own citizenery. What shame must there be in being a u.s. citizen, that one's own government would rather piss away your taxpayer dollars on foreign wars of choice rather than utilize those same finite funds to rebuild her own cities when providence lays them to waste.
Iranians are accused of being more palestinian then palestinians for their support of self determination for those oppresed people in spite of this support being against iran's interest. Then so can the u.s. government be accused of being more israeli than israel, since it willingly jetisons it's own interest, domestic and foreign, to fund and support israels.

Anonymous:

Afsaaneh & shahla,

The program the US is implementing is what you see in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Shah days are gone.

If the US comes to Iran, it won't change anything economically. Same oil, at the same price. Iran will be cut up into pieces along ethnic lines. Like it is about to happen to Iraq. Separating the turks, kurd, balouch, fars, arabs in khozestaun, and etc. They want freedom and democracy too (as well).

Most of Iran's oil is in the Southwestern Arabic portion, right? They definetly will want independence. hehehe

Don't fool yourself, real democracy doesn't exist. The US is a Republic. The US candidates are chosen by the parties, just like Iran.

THE UNDISPUTED TRUTH:

WHY AMERICA HAS TO FIGHT FOR ISRAEL?WHY ISRAEL CAN NOT GO AND BOMB TEHRAN,BOMB THE CITY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.ISRAEL WENT TO LEBANON FROM MAR-JUNE 1978,1982-2000,AND THEN 2006.IT NEVER ACHEIVED ITS GOALS,AND HEZBOLLAH KILLED 116 ZIONIST SOLDIERS.IMAGINE HOW MANY WILL DIE IN FIGHT AGAINST IRAN?IRAQ HAD A HARD TIME DEFEATING IRAN,AND IT WAS A STALEMATE,EVEN THOUGH SADDAM WAS SUPPORTED CRIMINALS LIKE US,USSR,UK,GERMANY,ETC.NOW IRAN IS MUCH STRONGER THAN THE 80'S,AND ISRAEL SHOULD FIGHT IT IF IT REALLY WANTS TO.BUT U.S HAS TO KEEP BECAUSE U.S SHOULD NOT GET HURT,AND PLUS ISRAEL HAS TO PROVE THAT IT IS BRAVE WITHOUT U.S SUPPORT.LETS SEE HOW BRAVE ISRAEL IS.ISRAEL IS AN ANIMAL AND CRIMINAL.IRAN IS LOVELY AND INNOCENT.I'M GLAD IRAN IS BECOMING THE NEW REGIONAL POWER IN MID-EAST AND U.S/ISRAEL SHOULD DIE OF ANGER.KHOMENEI ONCE SAID THAT THE USSR,APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICAN REGIME,ISRAEL,AND SADDAM HUSSEIN ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING AND HAVE TO GO!INTERESTINGLY ONLY ISRAEL IS THE ONE THAT REMAINS-THE OTHERS NO LONGER EXIST,JUST AS KHOMEINI SAID IT WOULD NOT.ISRAEL HAS TO GO BYE BYE,ITS NOTHING BUT FILTH AND TROUBLE.EVERYTHING SAID ABOUT IRAN IS LIES!REAGAN SAID THAT IRAN WAS MORE DANGEROUS THAN IRAQ,NOW TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED ON AUGUST 2,1990?IRAQ INVADED KUWAIT,NOT IRAN.IRAN NEVER HARMED ANY OF HER NEIGHBORS,ISRAEL HAS.PLUS U.S WAS THE ONE THAT UNSED NUKES-SO MUCH FOR THOSE WHO SAY DEMOCRACIES ARE MORE RESPONSIBLE.LOVE YOU ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN,BE SAFE AND SCREW YOUR ENEMIES,ALL YOUR ENEMIES!

Mark kraft:

"I am an iranian doctor and 2 years after my graduation i am still looking for a job. while islamic government of iran is donating money that belongs to me and other young iranians, to lebanon terrorists and other arabs. nuclear energy is an scam of this government. we want islamists out of iran."

Absolutely right. You should. But let me ask you this:

Did the invasion of Afghanistan destroy the Taleban, or has the Taleban been on the resurgence, gaining popular support because they were the only ones who opposed the invaders?

Did the invasion of Iraq weaken Moqtada al-Sadr and the Islamist militias in that country, or has it caused many of the people of Iraq to support them, because they are the ones who oppose the U.S.?

Did the invasion of Lebanon weaken Hezbollah, or did it cause many of those Lebanese who previously wanted to disarm Hezbollah to support them, because they were the only ones who opposed the invaders?

So, what do you think an invasion of Iran would do?

The best solution for Iran isn't war or sanctions. War doesn't work, because people unite around even bad leaders when their countries are invaded by foriegners. Sactions don't work eitehr. The worst victims of sanctions against Iraq weren't the supporters of Saddam, but the educated class of that country. Decades of sanctions haven't worked in Cuba either -- it just made the people of that country that much more dependent on the government than before.

Neither work reliably. The best solution for Iran is attachment, not detachment, from the world. Modernization, technology, and wealth inevitably lead to a growing, modern, educated class... which is exactly what you need to combat radical Islam.

You can't win over the Iranian people with bombs, but you may be able to do it with mobile phones and the internet. As an Iranian, you should consider doing what you can to encourage information technology that empowers your fellow citizens to communicate freely with each other. There are many ways of doing this. Encourage the private use of encryption technology. Explore technologies like Freenet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet

Take the time to educate young people in medicine, in technology, and to see to it that they don't grow up to be Islamists. It's a long process, admittedly, but that's where real change comes from.

If you want to destroy radical Islam, destroy poverty, ignorance, and social detachment first. The rest will follow.

Robert Barington:

Hey buddy
the only way to defeat religious freaks is to kill them. they are enemy combatants, so they don't deserve mercy.
Islamic terrorists are ruining the world and world should stand up to them. It is a duty, not an option :)

from Wash DC:

Your drum beating is really useless.

1) Economic sanctions won't work, they are already under economic sanctions.

2) Air strikes alone, leaves the govt in place, and they will rebuild it.

3) Invasion with ground troops. We can't manage Iraq, where is the manpower. This is a national issue for them. The US would have to take on an insurrection in Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan. Unless ofcourse, if Zarcowie was a US agent.

4) See the division in the room, seriously doubt public support for this war.

5) November is two months away, and a good chance the democrats will win majority in the house or Senate. I don't see democrats supporting a war on Iran, after Iraq. They are more likely to make trouble for Bush, and the Republicans.

6) As far back as I can remember, the last two years of every presidency has been lame duck.

7) Many already believe that Bush started the Iraq war to win re-election. We still need to build up for it. With two months left, thats pushing it a bit too close.

About the only thing that we can do is to hit them from the air, and repeat it like we did with Iraq in 91 & 03.

But Gulf I had UN endorsement, this won't (Russia & China); and the Iranians would never sign a stupid treaty. And, If they do, their people would never accept it.

The Iranians just gave a sweet heart of a deal to Chavez of Venezuela (which the US tried to over throw, and have assasinated). I wonder, what they got back in return?

The real question is while the US is building up/preparing, what do you think the Iranians will do? Sit by or attack Iraq with 130K US soldiers in it. That leaves Taliban in Afghanistan with 20K US Soldiers next door.

Talk about playing chicken. This doesn't look like a way to win. Even if we had the manpower and everything else to play and win this game. What about Putin to the north? You think, he like the idea of evening the score, after the fall of USSR.

which one of the US allies do you think, would be willing to go along with a war of this scale?

Even if the US does all of this, the American public would never forgive it for putting us through this.

Hey Saul: you need to think before you open your mouth, not afterward. Its a little late once the words come out.

Mark Kraft:

For those who question my statement that over 200,000 Iraqis have died in the conflict so far, I recommend they read an article I wrote at http://insomnia.livejournal.com/662757.html , which makes it very clear that Iraqi civilian casualties in the war are dying in numbers far greater than previously thought.

In fact, both the Iraqi government and Iraq Body Count have released information this year that shows that the number of civilian casualties has roughly doubled during the past year.

Our biggest problem in contemplating these huge numbers of dead Iraqi civilians has come from the fact that the casualty figures we see are for those who died as a result of violence, whereas the Lancet Report was more thorough, looking at what doctors *should* look at -- increased morbidity due to all causes of death, across the board.

There results were simple, yet shocking in their own way:
Due to the disruption of war, everything in Iraq is more fatal -- especially in those regions most effected by fighting and unrest.

That doesn't mean that U.S. soldiers are butchers... hardly. But that doesn't mean that our President and our politicians aren't responsible for the decisions that led to the death of over 200,000 Iraqi civilians, either.

We broke it. Our presence there hasn't helped to fix it. U.S. reconstruction funds have mostly been spent, so we've mostly given up on trying to fix it... and one day, we'll have to leave it.

afsaaneh:

I am an iranian doctor and 2 years after my graduation i am still looking for a job. while islamic government of iran is donating money that belongs to me and other young iranians, to lebanon terrorists and other arabs. nuclear energy is an scam of this government. we want islamists out of iran.

Mark Kraft:

Why, oh why has the Washington Post editorial been taken over by the editor for the Jerusalem Post and a frequent contributor to the neocon rag of choice National Review?

In the interest of fairness, here are a few other choice things that Saul Singer has said in the past:

"Vietnam-era pacifism rings equally hollow in the face of Saddam. Pacifism is about to be discredited more thoroughly than it has been for over half a century." - Saul Singer, March 2003.

Do you really believe this to be the case, in retrospect? Weren't those opposed to invading Iraq absolutely correct in saying that the rationale for the war was flawed? Weren't they also correct in saying that the public was being mislead, and that Iraq could turn into the bloody mess that we see today?

Will Mr. Singer step forward and take his part of the blame for the over 200,000 Iraqis who have died needlessly, not only from bullets and bombs, but also from disease, malnutrition, electricity shortages, water shortages, public sanitation nightmares, phone outages, the breakdown of emergency medical services, etc?

Can any American outside of New Orleans imagine living in cities whose infrastructure has been so thoroughly destroyed? Could they imagine living under such circumstances for over three years? Could they imagine watching their loved ones die, because an ambulance couldn't reach them in time due to roadblocks and violence?

It's not just bombs and bullets that are killing Iraqis -- the simple fact is, even a simple, treatable ailment can be far more fatal nowadays, because we turned their country upside down.

"(The U.S.) cannot afford to exempt Iran and Syria from the Bush Doctrine: Supporting terror is punishable by regime change."

So, Mr. Singer would've had us fight four countries at once? And where, praytell, would we get the troops for that? Perhaps if we changed our military so that it essentially authorized indefinite forced servitude, then maybe we could fight these wars he wanted without a massive draft. Even if we had the approximately 500,000 extra soldiers needed to fight and occupy these countries, we would still face the same violence and chaos there as our soldiers face everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That said, there is no doubt such a conflict would bankrupt our nation. But then again, Saul Singer draws his paycheck from Israel, as far as I can tell.

Or perhaps we should examine his defense of illegal Israeli settlements in Palestinian and Syrian lands:

"one ide'e fixe seems to remain: Settlements are an obstacle to peace. . . That high-level Bush administration officials are even paying lip service to the centrality of settlements betrays a case of old-think. . ."

Obviously for Mr. Singer, 9/11 changed everything -- which is to say, it could be used as an excuse to justify any war, any act of ethnic cleansing, any landgrab, any violation of international agreements or of the Geneva Convention... so long as it appears to benefit Israel.

But what about America, Mr. Singer? Where's your loyalty to us, to our soldiers, and to their families?

How much longer are you going to pretend that you can serve two masters at once, when arguably your actions have served neither, but have only helped push us towards World War 3 and to turn previously uncommitted Arabs into enemies?

What Israel needs from the United States right now isn't a rubber stamp. What Israel needs right now is tough love, and a guiding hand towards peace. We should have no illusions that peace between the Israelis and the Arabs will be easy. Only a truely fair, just peace will be accepted. It will require painful concessions from both Israel and the Arabs, and there *WILL* be radicals on both sides who call for blood and sow violence.

It's time for the people of the United States to bring all sides back to the bargaining table, ignoring those who call for violence, whether they're Hezbollah, Likud... or Saul Singer.

BABAK TASHAK:

IRAN GOVERNMENT IS DICTATOR AND KILLS INNOCENT PEOPLE. WE NEED A GOOD GOVERNMENT THAT CAN GIVE US JOBS, NOT RELIGIOUS NON SENSE

BABAK FROM IRANIAN CITY OF HAMEDAN

shahla:

I live in Iran and i gaurantee you iranian people hate islamic terrorists more than US. at least US is a democracy.

THE UNDISPUTED TRUTH:

U.S HAS ALWAYS BEEN LYING ABOUT IRAN.IRAN HAD A DEMOCRACY AND WAS OVERTHROWN IN 1953 SO THAT U.S AND UK COULD CONTROL ITS OIL.THEY SUPPORTED THE ANIMAL SHAH WHO KILLED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS FROM 1953-1979.IRANIANS CERTAINLY DID NOT DESERVE THIS.THE REVOLUTION WAS GOOD,FOR THEY OVERTHREW THE SHAH,WHO WAS PUPPET FOR AMERICA.AMERICA'S CIA TRAINED SAVAK,SO AMERICA'S HANDS ARE BLOODY WITH ALL THOSE INNOCENT YOUNG IRANIANS KILLED BY THE SHAH,AND SO THEY DID GREAT IN OVETHOWING THAT DICTATOR.U.S TOOK IRAN'S DEMOCRACY-THAT IS THE FACT,AND MANY AMERICANS ON THIS PANEL ALSO MENTIONED IT.U.S PLACED SANCTIONS ON IRAN IN FEB 1979 BEFORE THE HOSTAGES WERE TAKEN,WHY?IT SHOWS AMERICA DOES NOT CARE FOR IRANIANS.CARTER SHOULD HAVE GAVE THE SHAH BACK FOR TRAIL AND EXECUTION,BUT IT DID NOT,SO THE HOSTAGE CRISIS HAPPENED.PLUS U.S HELPED IRAQ INVADE IRAN,AND WOULD NOT PASS A RESOLUTION TO ORDER IRAQ OUT OF IRAN.IT GAVE CHEMICAL WEAPONS TO SADDAM AND IT WEREUSED ON IRANIANS.IRAN NEVER USED ITS OWN CHEMICAL WEAPONS.U.S IS COMLICIT IN 500,000 TO 1,000,000 DEATHS.IRAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ONLY 52 HOSTAGES,WHO ARE ALL ALIVE.THEN U.S SHOT DOWN FLIGHT 655 IN 1988,AND NEVER APOLOGIZED.U.S HAS DONE MORE DAMAGE TO IRAN,THAN VICE VERSA-SO ADMIT THE FACTS ONCE AND FOR ALL!NOW U.S WANTS TO ATACK IRAN WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE!LOOK ONE THE INTERNET,AT BBC OR OTHER NEWS PROGRAMS,WHERE IT SAYS THAT U.S INTELLIGENCE IS MISSING GAPS ON IRAN'S PROGRAM.THAT MEANS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IRAN IS UP TO.IRAN NEEDS NUKE ENERGY TO DIVERSIFY,U.S WANTS IRAN TO RUN OUT OIL AND BE FORCED TO RELY ON IT FOR NUKE ENERGY-AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN UNCLE SAM!IRAN NEEDS NUKE WEAPONS,FOR THERE ARE U.S TROOPS IN IRAQ,AFGHANISTAN,AND BASES IN TURKEY,AZERBAIJAN,ARMENIA,ARAB GULF SATES,SO WHAT THE HELL SHOULD IRAN DO?PRAY TO ALLAH THAT AMERICA WILL NEVER ATTACK IT!NONSENSE,IRAN NEEDS NUKES.IRAN WAS AMONG OTHER NATIONS THAT WANTED A NUKE FREE MID EAST,WHERE NO NATION IN SOUTHWEST ASIA WILL HAVE NUKE WEAPONS,BUT AMERICA AND ITS CRIMINAL ZIONIST FRIEND REFUSED!NOW TELL ME WHO IS AFTER PEACE OR WAR

Hungry for truth and peace:
Anonymous:

"Use harsh sanctions and force"

USE THEM YOURSELF. DON"T COME CRYING TO DADDY WHEN YOU CAN'T GET ALONG WITH YOUR LITTLE FRIENDS.

Cayambe , Philo CA, USA:

Saul Singer,
The nonsense coming out of Jerusalem is breathtaking. It reminds me ever so much of the nonsense we heard in 2002-3 regarding Iraq. You would have us do another of fiasco like that one? Get real.

The path that Iran is on has been well outlined by David Kusel above. At the moment Iran is intent upon developing the capability to enrich uranium for power plant fuel and has no intent of then developing nuclear weapons using that capability, if you believe them. You don't. I don't, because were I in Iran's position, surrounded by nuclear powers and threatened regularly by the largest such power halfway around the world with the largest global reach and a 150+ troops on two of my borders, I would surely want nuclear weapons to defend myself. But that is still conjecture on our part, as we conjectured that Iraq must be lying about their WMD stocks. But they weren't lying, we were just wrong.

But let us suppose that they actually get nuclear weapons. Whom do they threaten? The USA? Hardly. Apart from facing overwhelming retaliation, they have not the means to deliver these weapons on US territory. Israel? Hardly. Israel is perfectly capable of adequate nuclear retaliation on its own. So where is the beef? Ahh yes...terrorism. They might pass one on to Hezbollah or Hamas maybe? Or perhaps Al Qaeda?. Give me a break. The ayatollahs are neither that crazy or that stupid. In any case, the risk of that sort of thing is a hundredfold larger farther to the East, with our good ally Pakistan. You know, the fellows currently "harboring" UBL up in the Northwest Territories? The fellows that provided technology to Libya, North Korea, and Iran? No, you can be certain that Persians are not about to provide nuclear weapons to Arabs however friendly they might be this year.

Global terrorism will not rise as a consequence. Local terrorism, local to Israel that is, may. Having achieved MAD vis a vis Israel, Iran may feel even more free to support Hezbollah and Hamas, who are in fact no threat to us in the USA.

As to "honestly disputing" the consequences you project, I am not persuaded they are disputable so much as nonsensical.

I would suggest that "the real argument", at least here domestically in the USA, should be about what principles should drive our decisions to make war on other nations, what "self-defense" actually means, what is and is not in OUR national interest, what are the LIMITS of our power, what limits should we impose on using it, and so on.

Your last paragraph is silly. You and everybody else knows that our dysfunctional Security Council is incapable of applying "draconian" sanctions on Iran, and may well not, in the end, agree on any. So what is the point?

Anonymous:

Editorial Page Editor for the Jerusalem Post. Read the whole thing, nimrod!

From Wash DC:

To the Washington Post

"Saul Singer is Editorial Page Editor" and "Before moving to Israel from the Washington area in 1994"

He is an Isreal loving Jew, and he did the right thing by moving there. Why is he still the editor of the editorial page, after being gone for a dozen years?

Are you that desparate?

Why do you have someone with such slanted views, editing the editorial page?

Anonymous:

Anyone notice a great nickname for Mr. Bernard Laudon. C'mon you know you see it.


Ready,


It's

BernLaudon.

james:

"Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself", FDR

And I add: the only things we have to fear are the fear makers. Such as the above writer who is part of a propaganda machine to get US involved in another conflict. These people do not have the true interest of US in mind and are and have been speaking with a single voice to push for their agenda.

The fact is, if we do bomb Iranian facilities we are not going to achieve anything, as they may be hidden in other locations. Which places us at the same place if we work with the Iranian and allow them to go ahead, however under full transparency and vigilance.
Sure, you can argue the can not be trusted and they will be performing clandestine research, which will be true if we bomb their facilities.
The only difference is that we do not make the regime stronger in the region by giving them political ammunition and we do not isolate ourselves into an imperialist nation but a world super leader.

Our focus needs to be in economical supremacy with China around the corner.

Robert:

One additional item that I wanted to share. I truly understand and can rationalize the positions of Israel as a nation. If we criticize its influence here in the U.S., we only do so because of envy that our own special interest and lobby are not as effective AIPAC. We can complain, but you can't really fault a small nation who has been attacked on multiple occassions by its neighbors for using every available tool to survive in a dangerous neighborhood.

But what is most unsettling for me are those who are not from Israel, were not born there, migrate to this land and immediately lay divine claim to a piece of land that has been in a particular Arab family's posession for centuries. To me that is dangerous fundamentalism no different than Hammas or Hizbullah.

One of the evening news correspondents was interviewing an Israeli soldier who was returning from the front in Lebanon. The guy was from Ohio and had just migrated there a few years ago and claims he is fighting for his land and family. His land is the U.S. and his family should be safe and sound here in the U.S. When you leave a stable situation to go there to live in a constant state of war and self-defense, then to me that is also fundamentalism.

Robert:

I have heard that politics in Israel is very very cut-throat. I wonder if the Israeli President, Moshe Katsav's recently highly publicized problems with sexual harrassment have anything to do with his Iranian descent. He is an Iranian who immigrated to Israel with his family when he was in his youth.

You would be surprised how much these two countries have in common. Sharon's Defense Minister was also a Iranian.

I understand that it was the Jews, not the Persians, who first called the great Persian king Cyrus "The Great" and the messiah.

The two peoples also have two of the first monotheistic faiths (Zoroasterian & Judaism).

Why do I point these out, it is because believe it or not, the people of Iran do not have animosity towards Israel and the Jews. This generally can not be said of Arab countries. But what is happening now with the policies of the two messianic leaders in Washington and Tehran, the world is becoming polarized. People in Iran who in the recent past may have welcomed an American hand in overthrowing the mullah-regime and forgave the U.S. for its role in the 1953 Coup now see it as a crusading force who cares nothing for non-christian civilians. Funny how the secular Iranian majority who despise the mullahs now see themselves in the same boat as the Arab muslims. They almost have to defend what they despise and have sworn as the root of all their problems: Arabs and the faith they brought to Persia with a Sword.

Unfortunately, the disastrous American campaign in Iraq along with Israel and their major mistake in Lebanon have only strengthened the hands of the conservatives in Iran who can now more easily tap into the nationalism of the Iranian nation. Those who once worshipped anything American and listened to Radio broadcasts from Israel, are now starting to question American leadership and policies.

From Wash DC:

Hey, Bernard Laudon, you warmongerer.

This place is called the United States of America, not Ismerica.

We have something called Freedom of Religion. You can choose whichever faith you like. But you still have to care about the USA. Your primary passion should be for USA, not Isreal. Thats call "treason".

And this thing where American Jews serve in the Isreali Military is a bunch of crap. America's children sign up to serve their country, not Isreal.

If your heart beats for Isreal instead of USA, then you should move there, and give up your US citizenship.

The global dislike of US is because of the skewed policies of the US in support of Isreal. And that dislike is creating terrorism. Whenever someone discriminates toward a billion people for the benefit of 3 million, thats going to happen.

Don't fool yourself, everybody knows what is going on. The only reason for supporting Isreal is that the Jews float on money, money which came about by ill begotten gains anyway.

Before the establishment of civil law, the church use to make laws that managed towns. When the Jews migrated here (1890s), you used the excuse that the Old Testament preceeds the New Testment, so you are not subject to the rules of the church, including the labor laws, ie laws regarding work week, minimum wage, child labor laws were passed during the FDR presidency (1930s). Teddy Rooselvelt's anti-trust policies were a reaction to these circumstances.

Since when does a criminal have the right to gain from their illegal activity? You have not only gained, but you are using it to manipulate half the planet.

Be very careful, how much you push the American public. When it becomes too expensive, they will dump you, just like the French, British, Germans, and the Russians.

You know, the Patriat act says that those whose heart doesn't beat for the US, can be stripped of thier US citizenship, their assets repossesed and they can be deported. It wouldn't be the first time in history that laws written for one purpose were used for totally different purposes.

THE UNDISPUTED TRUTH:

I THINK ISRAEL HAS TO GO"BYE BYE" LIKE THE SOVIET UNION IN 1991.

xandras:

"freedom of Iranian people and democracy" ??? this junk actually thinks that "Use Harsh Sanctions, and Maybe Force" is gonna do what??? starve the mollahs ???... what you actually think they are gonna fight?.. no UGLY , the kids in the universites and the poor are the ones who suffer... but true in isreal killing people is freedom so it might be true.. and i tell you if UN puts sanctions i have nothing else to say. because they are supposed to help with "world peace" and lessen the suffering not ADDING TO IT..?? what! you want a nation FULL OF HATE after being starved and rejected from what you call RIGHT, to have a reason to make a bomb. ?? i see no reason for iran to do it except to defend itself from people like you. oh and i am dying to know what happend to the 70% arab population that was living in your so called isreal. what they EVAPORATED?? what was SHARON to begin with?? you showed what you actually are in this 34 days.. i think its just wrong to say ALL OF your neigboars hate you without a reason...everyone is middleeast is a terrorist.. depending for WHOM? perhaps you do have a problem.

Eric:

I strongly recommend reading Hoder's recent post in his Persian weblog during last 3, 4 months in where you can see for yourself that Iran's nuclear program is not the only thing supported by Hoder. You can see a whole new approach towards Iranian government and specially its supreme leader, Khamenei. It lefts no doubt what Hoder is searching for behind those writings. If you have problem with Persian language, then watch this video where Hoder teaches Persian to his Israelis hostess. It may help!
link: http://www.dailymotion.com/hoderwatch/video/x3k72_hoder-in-action

Elijah:

We live in changing world - Empire's rise and fall Iran is building a new Islamic empire with ideology weapons and politicks. This is nothing new. To me this is the old struggle between Greeks and Persia (Democracy and Autocracy). Ambitious men will always try to take history into their hands. War is coming and we all will fight in it. No suctions will stop Iran from doing what it wants. So lets not fool ourselves and start getting ready because after this war there will be one less religion in the world.

They hate us because of our strange bedfellows...:

I would like to see a future where America is not a puppet of Zionist hegemony and the apartheid in Palestine is no more.

liz:

Amazing. Israel just got done bombing thousands of civilians (with made-in-USA cluster bombs paid for by US taxpayers) and now they're still complaining about being the "victims" of Iranian "threats"
If you want to talk about genocide, remember the 300,000 children in Iraq which were killed as a result of sanctions - remember, the ones who Madelaine Albright said their deaths was "worth it"?

Mehdi:

Please stop using "freedom of Iranian people and democracy" as an excuse for your war mongering. Iranian, never needed and never asked for an outside force. People voted and got what they asked for i.e. mirror image of George W to deal with his conservative religious zeal. Unfortunately, people like you are so stupid to learn anything otherwise your 1953 coup should have been a great example of your mess for you to learn from. We, Iranian, are where we are with respect to our political issues because of people like you. WHAT ARE YOU PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW? Please exercise your psuedo intellectual masterbation regarding your own national politics while witnessing innocent American soldiers and Iraqi people getting butchered everyday because your president.

Jim Horton:

I severed two tours in Vietnam. Was shot in an assault and was medevacted to the states. I supported that war then because among other reasons I believed the line that if we lost in Vietnam there would be dire consequences.
We lost, I am still waiting to see the dire consequences that Johnson, MacNamara, and Westmoreland told me about.
The administration lied then. They lie now.

Eric:

Well, I don't think it is necessary to take Hoder's post seriously. His effortless defense of Iran's nuclear program is just a cover for getting financial support for his projects.
On June 2006, a few days after that Iranian woman were not allowed to enter to the football stadiums, he wrote: "We should be smart and creative. The best way those Iranian young girls can go to the stadiums is that they promise to the authorities to defend the Iran's nuclear program in the front of western journalists, if they are allowed to enter to the stadium" (link: http://i.hoder.com/archives/2006/06/060615_015311.shtml )
Now Hoder himself uses his creativeness and smartness in supporting Iran's nuclear program in the front of western journalist!, in the hope that the doors of financial support will be open to him

Sean Mccarry:

Dear Mr. Bernard Laudon,

Obviously you do not know much about Winston Churchill. Let me awaken you to the truth, readily available in many publications.

Mr. Churchill send many innocent people to their death in Russian, including Kozaks, and handing over Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia to Stalin, among other concessions for the sake if Briton. So don't pretend that this grotesque parasite stands for the model of justice, fainess, courage, humanity, or anything that is decent.

Furthermore, it is ironic that you mention his name. It was Churchill that was the actual instigator behind the 1953 Coup in Iran that has brought us to present day problems.

Churchill convinced John Dulles and his brother Allen Dulles to carry out a coup in Iran, overthrow the democratically elected governmentof Dr. Mossadegh, remove democracy from Iran, and replace it with a fascist dictatorship puppet government that tortured and/or killed 140,000 people in the 26 years that followed, thanks to SAVAK agency training by Israel and funded by US.

How ironic that you mention Churchill here. Your drunk hero killed many innocent people in order to rob iranian children of their birthrights, continued stealing iranian oil for 60 years, deprived a nation of its elected leaders, and played god witht he lives of iranians and their future.

Ohhhhh .... i see, why you mention his name and approve of his so much .... now it's obvious.

Sam from MOZAMBEEGH:

Imagine this SINGER Israeli guy was working at "the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Senate Banking Committee, and Senator Connie Mack" in USA!!

hass:

Genocidal Threats? George W Bush has EXPLICITLY threatened Iran with NUCLEAR STRIKES and the US Nuclear Posture Review envisions the first-use of nuclear weapons even against non-nuclear armed states (and in violation of international law) and here are you are talking about "genocidial threats" from Iran? What planet are you on? Sheesh.

Bernard Laudon:

1930-1936 déjà-vu

You are damned right!

Peacenicks like Chamberlain and Daladier accounts for 55 million dead.

There was one man, all by himself, with a clear vision of what was in the making: Winston S. Churchill. And they called him a war monger. In his memoires he dubbed WWII as "The War that could have been avoided so easily".

Yes! Déjà vu!

Mull that over, you all peacenicks!

Bernard Laudon

From Wash DC.:

The beauty of the internet is that the people get read the news from all sides. After spending some time reading we get an impression of what is going on in the world.

There is much to be said about Isreal's manipulation of American politics. Your manipulation of American resources is damaging the US credibility around the world, and in international bodies. It has gone to the point where we can't muster the required votes for sanctions on Iran. Personally, I am tired of spending American resources for the benefit of Isreal.

Isrealites be careful, not to push your luck too far, because you have no other friends in the world. These are the tactics that has caused the rest of world to dislike you.

Napolean suggested the creation of the state of Isreal, The British pick it up, lead to Balford doctorine, to Hitler's treatment of Jews during WWII, and the Russians finally said, "you can leave". The rest of humanity is sick and tired of you. Maybe its something that you are doing?

David Kusel:

WHY NOT TO ATTACK IRAN

Iran has every right to an extensive civil nuclear programme, as do all countries. This right includes building uranium enrichment facilities to produce the fuel for nuclear power stations.

At present, as a signatory of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, she has voluntarily foregone the right to build nuclear weapons. Were she to withdraw from this treaty, she could build nuclear weapons without contravening any international law or regulation. And she has every right to do so. Four of her neighbours have armed themselves with nuclear weapons in recent years, Israel, China, Pakistan and India, while the Non Proliferation Treaty has been in effect.

The present Iranian regime is seriously opposed to the American view of how the world should be run.
This does not make her a "Terrorist State" to be "taken out" as the next election-winning step in G.W. Bush's "War on Terror".

On the contrary, Iran has always opposed Al Qaida. This terrorist organisation, which really does promote international terrorism against the USA and her perceived allies, has its roots in the xenophobic Wahhabite Islam of Saudi Arabia. It was nurtured in the Saudi financed madrasas of Pakistan which were part of the US's proxy war against the Russians in Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia and the US spawned Al Qaida together. Iran was not involved and opposes Al Qaida strongly.

Less than two years ago Iran put members of Al Qaida on trial herself. While the US was complaining about Iran's failure to hand over her Al Qaida prisoners, Iran was discretely helping in the real war against terror, without making it too obvious that, in this case, she was on the same side as the USA.
(See the Swiss based ISN report 9/12/2004) http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=10337

Iran does support both Hamas and Hezbollah, which she sees as legitimate militias opposing Israeli occupation and aggression. Although this view is not shared by Israel and the US, much of the rest of the world has come round to the Iranian viewpoint, specially in the light of recent events. To many eyes, Israel's massive use of "state terrorism" against her Lebanese and Palestinian neighbours undermines the legitimacy of the state of Israel.

The Iranian president did not say that he wanted to "wipe Israel off the map"...this was a case of wilfull mistranslation. However, he does support the return of the Palestinian refugees and "one man one vote" in Israel. Much of humanity regards this as a legitimate, but impractical desire. With Israel, desires like this earn their proponents top place on the list of countries to be nuked quickly...before it's too late!

If it wasn't so serious it would be funny, but Israel's hawks really are pushing for a US attack on Iran and its nuclear facilities. The merits of the coming war are discussed in serious Israeli newspapers, where the advisability or otherwise of the use of nuclear weapons is openly debated.

The Bush administration now backs the idea and is only waiting for the right moment. They promote this attack as the next logical step in their "War against Terror" ......... failing to mention they now see it as their only remaining hope of winning the coming elections, in spite of the Iraqi quagmire.

Added attractions of this lunatic, unjustifiable and illegal plan are that it pleases the powerful Jewish and Evangelical lobbies and it just might open a possible door to Iran's massive oil reserves.

Sadly those who govern the USA and Israel have their own plans for the Middle East and appear unworried by the sanity, justifiability or legality of their actions. The war they are planning endangers us all, not just Iranians, Israelis and Americans. But for Israel it is far worse...instead of saving herself with another pre-emptive strike, she really will be sowing the seeds of her own destruction.

Iran would never forgive, and unlike Israel and the USA she neither loses wars, nor counts her casualties.

Winston:

by now, every one knows Hoder is a double agent of the Islamic regime of Iran

Sean Mccarry:

What a load of rubbish, war mongering, hate mongering, fear mongering, hocus pocus, horse crap.

1st - Iran is NOT the world's biggest terrorist. Why? There are 223 so called terrorist organizations catagorized by the US State Dept. Iran supports 3 (if you now add Hammas to it), because it believes that they are freedom fighters.

2nd - Before claiming that Iran is a so called 'terrorist supporter', first let's define the word terrorist ... ohh that's right, US and Israel refuse to allow the international community (remember South Africa in 2003) to agree to a clear definition for the word 'terrorism'. Ummm obviously that way they can use it whenever they want any way they want - so that killing innocent people all around middle east wouldn't be regarded as terrorism if US/Israel does it.

3rd - Do not decide what the people of Iran want or should have, in your 'opinion'. They know what they want, and apart from the lies that you are fed by the real terrorist organization, Mojahedeen (which US and UK support despite the fact that they blew up cinemas in Iran, killed tourists - yest tourists like 4 Americans in 1975)- and these Mojahedeen in US and UK are the ones that keep presenting Iran as not supported by its people ... it is so wrong. Go to Iran, and see for yourself. The Iranian elections have far more participants in their elections than US and UK, and Israel, and France. In fact, 68% of the voting population participated in their Ahmadenijad elections, and he got the votes by almost 2-1 against Rafsanjani. But all of this doesn't matter to the write ... he'll probably say that the elections were between two of pre-selected candidates. Ummmmm ... like Kucinich or Howard Dean, or Al Sharpten ever had a chance when two boys from Yale had already
been pre-selected.

Stopping sending our boys to fight wars that make you rich in your stocks for war and weapons companies like Lockheed, Boeing, Northop, and the rest. Why don't you go and fight these wars that you start.

Anonymous:

me and other Iranians know that Arabs are our real enemy. Israel and US has never been a threat to Iran, but Arabs have been causing trouble in the past 2000 years with no stop.
So why current government of Iran is fighting the wrong crowd? because they are islamic and arabized, the don't represent Iranian culture at all, let alone Iranian people. anytime you turn on TV or Radio in Iran, it's either Koran or some other Arabic crap! that shows government of Iran is an Arabised puppet.

Free world should attack these islamic maniacs and set Iranian people free.

Hooshang - from Tehran, Iran

Baazari of Tehran:

Looks like the writer cannot spell or write words larger than BOMB and WAR.

If it gets to 5 letters like PEACE or LOGIC, you guys seem to blow a fuse.....
Relax, take a pill, go to your psychiatrist. Check into a rubber room with no sharp corners!

Not every one is a war monger like you people that could not stand Lebanon's reconstruction and return to its old glory days, so you bombed their homes.....

MLB:

USrael is the real terrorist in this region.

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