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Minh:

I'm afraid saying that people here won't ever change their mind is something that is self fullfilling. It's mean that you're sad and you also don't change your mind. The meaning of discussion is about changing minds.

What Saul Singer wrote here is what expected of him. What mr Putin said was unexpected of him. And I think we should reread it together with link [2]

http://www.securityconference.de/konferenzen/rede.php?menu_2007=&menu_konferenzen=&sprache=en&id=179
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/HH25Dj01.html

What Putin said is there is an UN, and the rule of law and democracy should work also in the UN. That multipolar worldview is backed with real economic force : OIL.

Tarik:

TO FRANK:
WELCOME.
SOMETIMES I GET THE SAME FEELING :"...PEOPLE HERE WON'T EVER CHANGE THEIR MINDS ITS SAD REALLY".

Frank:

Mark NL

Thanks for stepping in I gave up the people here won't ever change their minds its sad really

Minh:

Assasination of "Iraqi"-"democratic" leaders has just been annouced.


Iraq's Shia vice president narrowly escaped an assassination attempt today when a huge explosion ripped through a government building he was visiting in Baghdad.

Iraqi soldiers rush to the public works ministry

Adel Abdel-Mahdi was taken to hospital after suffering minor wounds in the blast at the public works ministry.

Minh:

@TARIK
"Saddam was a US pawn used to attack Iran and finally hanged when he had served his time."

In October-November of 1963, the world had witnessed well documented assasination of John F Kennedy, President of USA, and Ngô Đình Diệm, President of South Vietnam, in JUST 3 WEEKS. After these 2 assasination, the war was escalated in untold proportion by the Military-Industrial Complex.

Few socalled 'conspiracy-theories' raised this "JUST 3 WEEKS" short period to change the policy of a super power. If you like Conan Doyle, ask who benefited ? :-)

There's an interesting development in the USA today. Google for "Jimmy Carter and anti-semite", also "Why whe fight" with emule and choose the XviD of 2005.

Tarik:


To Mark,NL.
One more point. Even after the colonisers leave things cannot improve because the rudimentary economy of the poor countries which won their independance after WW2 had to compete with their former masters in the same market place.
Why a loan from a bank becomes a national debt.?
A loan is a commercial enterprise the risk of which is shared. If someone goes out of business in London the British Govt. is not responsible. But the Goverment of poor countries are made accountable by IMF and WB.
This another way of further impoverishing the people.
If we say well that's law of the Jungle and you have to live with it,fine,but dont pretend otherwise. This is my point.
Since WW2 many new emerging countries in Africa and else where were controlled by puppets installed in the poor countries.
And if there is someone like Patrick Lumumba he is easily assasinated.
And when people do manage to get rid of the puppets the next ruler has a choice either to be another puppet or ends up becoming a tyrant so that he is not overthrown. Saddam was a US pawn used to attack Iran and finally hanged when he had served his time.

Minh:

@Mark,NL:

"The West has gained its unprecedented dominance because of its superior ideas: freedom, liberalism, capitalism, democracy, secularism, and so on."

This is only partly true. The unprecendented dominance is based on

The Gun and all superior technology that associated with killing. It simply wipe out a continent of North America and put people of another continent - black people to work for them.
Not to mention what the power of the gun have done in India, China, Vietnam v.v.
This should be called state sponsored terrorism by today jargon :-)

You seems to associate the West with what is "advertised", and what wasn't advertised was put to the bin of history. You forget that all those action have consequences that expand far into the future and the superiority of the West isn't something that is unquestionable. Not that I wish the West ill, because I'm living in Poland which is a twighlight country. But the world is changing, and put it mildly, the level of morality of the West isn't propotionate to its resources. That's a inherent danger that civilisation like China and India or Iraq/Iran, which have survived 2-3 times longer in time should be more respected.

Mark, NL:

Tarik: your artificial distinction between colonization and conquest misses the point, but then again, you do not seem to prefer one over the other, either. Both phenomena have been constant features in human history; man is bad, and naturally desires to dominate other men. The West has gained its unprecedented dominance because of its superior ideas: freedom, liberalism, capitalism, democracy, secularism, and so on.

However bad your country may have suffered from this Western superiority, ultimately you adopted the very same ideas and are now steadily becoming one of the most prosperous countries in the world. Democracy is certainly not a farce, and you of all people should be the first to embrace it. So should people in the Middle East, who defy Western hegemony but fail to see what is at the root of their misery: their own Medieval bad ideas, and dictators who may possess ten palaces and 365 cars but fail to bring economic development to their peoples. The region would have been among the most prosperous in the world if it were not for their idiotic revolutionary myths (both Islamist and nationalist).

Anonymous: the United States bombs people to protect its own people and their strategic and economic interests, just as every other country in this world does. Having said that, I am pretty convinced that it defines its interests in a more enlightened way than China, Russia and Mideastern dictatorships, all of whom have a large history of brutality and suppression. And no, Vietnam and Iraq do NOT BY FAR match what those countries have done to their own and other peoples.

Finally, your claim that George W. Bush is a dictator is preposterous, but a successful way of dumb people to have their voices heard. The fact that Democrats now have both houses of Congress proves that the checks and balances work just fine, and should remind one that Bush is on his way out already. I wish we could say the same about the Mullahs in Iran or the Communist Party in China.

JRLR:

Minh, please make the appendice and appendix!

JRLR:

"So why USA isn't treated as a pariah itself, and an active accomplice with Israel? "

Minh, the United States and Israel are considered and treated as pariahs by the vast majority of the world population. Have been for years. Hence the need for so much constant propaganda to the contrary.

See how isolated they both are, throughout this vast world, this huge ensemble of nations! Hence their vocal, angry denial that they are.

Look at Palestine! Permanent conflict and perpetual war. With condemnations by the UN, one after another, for decades (too numerous to be counted: refer to the record). Damned if you persist, damned if you don't. How more isolated and an international loser can you be?

Look at what remains, in Iraq, of the so-called "coalition of the willing". Less than 8,000 soldiers, micro-contingents from approximately 20 countries, many of them (with all due respect) micro-countries. Some have left, some are leaving, some have to claim publicly they'll be leaving soon. One can't wage successfully a protracted war both against an "enemy" prepared to resist and against one's own population (through lies and deception).

It's all over, and, as British Commander General Dannatt said so eloquently, not long ago: "time is running out". Lose-lose proposition: you're damned if you leave, you're damned if you stay, and all alone, ultimately.

That, is isolation!

Russia's repositioning (as well as China's, India's, Brazil's, etc. rise) in the world are set against that background. Those are some of the new realities that need be taken into account and analysed with a renewed vision.

Would you believe? The world is not limited to the US and its middle-eastern appendice.

Anonymous:

@Mark,NL
OK, you have a point. Let me analize what Singer wrote:

"Russia is defending Iran’s nuclear program diplomatically, and helping to build it physically. The Russians argue that Europeans have played an even more pivotal role in paving Iran's path toward the bomb, but Europe seems to be slowly coming around to correct its mistake."

The nuclear program IS declared for peaceful purposes. But helping its implementation is a mistake. So the conotation here is the assumption that it's a path toward the bomb, and that path is bad. Why is this bad, and for whom ? Let's assume that Iraq has a bomb before 3/2003, would 600,000 of its citizen now already dead ?

Put it this way, the USA only bomb Vietnam and Iraq and the like when it know that it can kill a few millions without being purnished. When everything's over its said sorry, it was a mistake of our politicians, and we voted for others, new, better one. And the same mistake again :-(

"Vladimir Putin's recent comments just reinforce the obvious: He is setting himself up as the anti-Bush, and working directly to undermine U.S. policy. It is no coincidence that Russia is becoming more dictatorial and belligerent at the same time."

is Bush not dictatorial ? And who got dictatorial first :-) ?


Minh:

"Russia should be treated, if not as a pariah itself, as an active accomplice with Tehran."
So why USA isn't treated as a pariah itself, and an active accomplice with Israel ? It's symetrical situation, only smaller scale in implementation. Why Israel and the USA is supposed to be better than Russia and Iran. The simple answer is the USA and Israel is assertive enough to do what they like and have big mouth enough to silence opposition. When Russian start silence its opposition in íts press, the USA and Israel lost its socalled "free-press" advantage. So Russia is dictatorial :-)

Not that I say dictatorial is a good thing. The USA violate the Charter of UN first, and the Iraq was is illegal as the UN secretary declared boldly when he was still on duty. It hardly a suprise to me that Russia've waken up. It should. Otherwise, next time, it's not Belgrad bombed.

"Bush needs to start playing hardball with his supposed friend. U.S. support for Russian membership in the World Trade Organization was a mistake, but it is not too late to deny Russia lucrative nuclear waste storage contracts and to also link cooperation on satellite launches to Russia's behavior."

And this is the part of the article that I think difficult to not think of Jewish lobby. I'm not saying that being Jew is something bad and that is racism, like say this gook should die. No. It's the Likudniks and the people who have some Jewish blood, but make its their BUSINESS to implement policy for the US house and senate, that take the US tax payer away to pay for their friends contract and for the armament of Israel. Please read amcon magazine from the start of the war in Iraq.

Racism := belief system or doctrine which states that inherent biological differences between human races determine cultural or individual achievement.

Minh:

"Russia should be treated, if not as a pariah itself, as an active accomplice with Tehran."
So why USA isn't treated as a pariah itself, and an active accomplice with Israel ? It's symetrical situation, only smaller scale in implementation. Why Israel and the USA is supposed to be better than Russia and Iran. The simple answer is the USA and Israel is assertive enough to do what they like and have big mouth enough to silence opposition. When Russian start silence its opposition in íts press, the USA and Israel lost its socalled "free-press" advantage. So Russia is dictatorial :-)

Not that I say dictatorial is a good thing. The USA violate the Charter of UN first, and the Iraq was is illegal as the UN secretary declared boldly when he was still on duty. It hardly a suprise to me that Russia've waken up. It should. Otherwise, next time, it's not Belgrad bombed.

"Bush needs to start playing hardball with his supposed friend. U.S. support for Russian membership in the World Trade Organization was a mistake, but it is not too late to deny Russia lucrative nuclear waste storage contracts and to also link cooperation on satellite launches to Russia's behavior."

And this is the part of the article that I think difficult to not think of Jewish lobby. I'm not saying that being Jew is something bad and that is racism, like say this gook should die. No. It's the Likudniks and the people who have some Jewish blood, but make its their BUSINESS to implement policy for the US house and senate, that take the US tax payer away to pay for their friends contract and for the armament of Israel. Please read amcon magazine from the start of the war in Iraq.

Racism := belief system or doctrine which states that inherent biological differences between human races determine cultural or individual achievement.

Anonymous:

@Mark,NL
OK, you have a point. Let me analize what Singer wrote:

"Russia is defending Iran’s nuclear program diplomatically, and helping to build it physically. The Russians argue that Europeans have played an even more pivotal role in paving Iran's path toward the bomb, but Europe seems to be slowly coming around to correct its mistake."

The nuclear program IS declared for peaceful purposes. But helping its implementation is a mistake. So the conotation here is the assumption that it's a path toward the bomb, and that path is bad. Why is this bad, and for whom ? Let's assume that Iraq has a bomb before 3/2003, would 600,000 of its citizen now already dead ?

Put it this way, the USA only bomb Vietnam and Iraq and the like when it know that it can kill a few millions without being purnished. When everything's over its said sorry, it was a mistake of our politicians, and we voted for others, new, better one. And the same mistake again :-(

"Vladimir Putin's recent comments just reinforce the obvious: He is setting himself up as the anti-Bush, and working directly to undermine U.S. policy. It is no coincidence that Russia is becoming more dictatorial and belligerent at the same time."

is Bush not dictatorial ? And who got dictatorial first :-) ?


Tarik:

Mark NL :easy to call names....
Is it not what the imperialists have done thru human history give the dog a bad name and then shoot it.
Iam just a regular guy like you but I also know how the British colonised us for a hundred years.
They talked about Democracy but it was not for us Democracy was only for their own for us(Indians) it was Slavery and Colonisation.
Same thing here too Thomas Jefferson : did not mean to include the Blacks (he did not even think they were humans).
What do you know about outright racism? You are" just a Dutch regular guy with common sense"!
You have to ask people your nation colonised why they are so suspicious about your "common sense".
History is full of wars and conquests but they do not come close to the evil of Colonisation.
Conquerers are different from Colonisers.
The Colonisers did come to live with us or settle in Calcutta or Bombay or Lahore. They sucked our blood as long as they could and then left for England. Americans do not want to settle or live in Iraq they just want the Oil and ensure Israel's military superiority in the region. They dont care for the "NATIVES". All this talk about Democracy is a farce and that's common sense in our part of the world.

Mark, NL:

JRLR: Reducing neoconservatism and the American-Israeli alliance to a war-mongering, thirsty-for-oil and evil conspiracy is not mere criticism. It is a not provable (but, more importantly, not falsifiable) obsession, not worthy of serious consideration. People here discredit Mr. Singer for what he is, namely a Jew, not for what he writes. That, to me, is outright racism. Indeed, we've heard it all before, in Germany in the 1930s.

WASP, if you were talking about me: I am neither a Jew nor a Zionist, just a Dutch guy with common sense. Again, it is easy to call names like that: it has proved to be a very successful, though scandalous, way to silence those who do not agree with you.

Minh:

Actually I'm not sure what the Likuds in Israel and and the Neocons in the US are trying to do in the Middle East is really good for Israel as a nation.

In the US, the neocons is using the greed of the MIC to take control of US foreign policy and implement a pipedream policy. So far, what we have seen is an explosion of hatred and militarism in the Middle East. The more military training they give the Arabs and Iran, the better they'll become in near future conflicts. The example is Vietnam, after intensive training of 30 years with France and USA was able to defeat Chinese invasion and silmutalniously fighting guerilla war in Cambodia against Polpot's army.

In the near future, with the failure of the neocons policy, the slow-bleeding of American economy to China, the backfire of a too-pro Israel policy would be disasterous for Israel. When the USA change its childish mind, Israelis may find themselves like the boat peoples of South Vietnam, once believed in its big and powerful but also childish friend.


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(The term military-industrial complex (MIC) refers to a close and symbiotic relationship between a nation's armed forces, its arms industry, and associated political and commercial interests.)

student:

Funny thread. My absolute favorite here is definitely "German voice". His style is so perfect that I suspect he is joking.

WASP:

Why do obviously Jewish and zionist
voices , above,pretend they are not? Ashamed? Trying to fool us? If I were trying to influence people, or were...wisely...aware that such things only add to the growing anti-semitism here and abroad, perhaps not further insulting peopole by these tactics would be good.
Or perhaps, they are, as it seems, very young adults acting out.

Tarik:

My question is simple.
Why should a Jew call himself SAUL!!!

JRLR:

Mark Bogaers, Utrecht, NL: "Just like my compatriot Felix Drost, I am quite surprised by the level of hostility, even anti-Semitism, in these reactions... It is absurd that intelligent Americans fail to recognize..."

It's quite all right, Mark. It is indeed absurd. We fail to recognize, we're of a different opinion, so we're hostile, we're "even anti-Semitic", "very very very very anti-Semitic"... That's quite all right. We've heard it all before. Time and again. No problem. We're not ticklish.

Feel better, now?

Now get over it and just let us get on with the serious business of agreeing and of disagreeing amongst reasonable people, will you?

Phychiatrist psychoanalist:

"I hate the French!!! Russia...They are just mad..."

Could you please complete the list, tommy t? Take your time, no rush, just be exhaustive. We're all listening.

Interesting case, ladies and gentlemen! Extremely interesting. And public.

scasparz:

Mr Felix Drost please let me remind you that Aznar is history these days, his prospects appear less than bright.
Israel joining NATO? Wow, should then NATO fight on behalf of Israel in Lebannon? This is really cute, after employing the Americans against Iraq -without much success I am afraid- now it is time for Europeans to continue! Great!
But unlike Mr Drost I am not so sure regarding European government intentions towards Israel. The Jewish lobby is frequently accusing Europe for anti-Semitism, although some people claim this to be nothing but propagand. And again let me remind you please that on a European-wide poll conducted on behalf of the Eurobarometer about a couple of years ago, European citizens appeared -with the notable exceptions of the Netherlands and Denmark- that they consider Israel as the worst threat to global peace. For the record US run at a distant second.

Old Atlantic:

"It is not Russia that is back, but KGB-style thinking." This is completely correct.

In spring 1995, Russia got billions of IMF low interet rate loans from Stanley Fischer at IMF and Larry Summers at US Treasury. The hypothesis is explored elsewhere that Russia had kompromat files Harvard, MIT, Chicago econ, b schools, etc. Search Russia plagiarism files.

The USAO Mass from spring 1997 investigated Harvard econ dept on a grant for use in Russia. Chubais was on the payroll of that grant in Jan 96 briefly in between getting the IMF loans. Harvard and Clinton profs may not have told all to USAO Mass.

By 1998 this was possibly known and used by India to get its nuclear test, Pakistan for its, Russia for more loans, hedge funds to trade Russian govt bonds, neocons to get Iraq Liberation Act in Oct 1998 during Clinton impeachment, etc.

This may have been used as leverage by Bush during Bush v. Gore. Putin has the files on what Russia had on academics back to the 1920's. So it goes on. Putin and the KGB are having fun with Clinton and Bush because they know this. That is where their minds are. The above is all speculation and a hypothesis.

BuzzBros.:

Looks like the writer has not understood the question put to him and he has relapsed back to his anti-Iran stories. Sounds like a broken record, or a dummy playing the Zionist organ grinder.

The question was about NATO and Russia. Refill your prescription....pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

German Voice:

Thanks a bunch for sharing, Saul Singer! Good job!

Indeed, Russia wants to play hardball in order to reinforce the defeated socialists in the western hemisphere. Well, why not? It's nice to see how some few hardheads believe that 90% of the Europeans and 70% of the Americans would like to live in a socialist dictatorship. So why shouldn't we, the majority of Europeans and Americans, teach those hardheads their lessons? Then, they will see how small their community really is!

Unfortunately, this is not enough to change the situation in Russia as long as the country is controlled by former KGB agents. The only solution to solve these problems is, is to extend the pressure on the European Union and their member states who are supporting the regime in Russia.

By the way, the ideology of the former KGB members is national socialism, therefore, it's logically that they have close ties to the NAZIS within the European Union and the international terrorism.

However, the United States must send a clear message to all the people around the world that there is no Liberty and Justice in socialism. In addition, the people should know that only socialists are so called Bush-haters. The silent majority of the people around the world love him because he has the courage to step forward in order to defend Liberty and Justice for all! He is one of the greatest presidents the United States ever had! The Americans should be proud of him.

@FELIX DROST
Well said! I agree! Israel has more friends than the haters can think of! Well, socialists have no faith, therefore, it's self-explaining that they are born haters and hardheads.

@TOMMY T
No doubt, the socialists, not only in France, have a mental disorder, but the common people around the world are cool and friendly people - also in France. The real hardheads around the world are the fanatic socialists! Only they should be re-educated! That would solve all the problems and the world could live in peace!

Mark Bogaers, Utrecht, NL:

Just like my compatriot Felix Drost, I am quite surprised by the level of hostility, even anti-Semitism, in these reactions. Indeed, Mr. Singer's nationality does not automatically discredit his opinion. It is absurd that intelligent Americans fail to recognize the Iranian and Russian leaders for what they are: bad, illiberal, undemocratic and dangerous people.

For all the criticism one might have concerning the American and Israeli governments, it should not be forgotten that there still exist actors in this world who disapprove of our way of life, and will fight to eliminate it altogether. Israel is the only liberal democracy in a region where backwardness, authoritarianism and Medieval ideas are the rule. It deserves our full support.

tommy t:

I think we should kick France out of NATO. I hate the French!!! We saved their ass in ww1, ww2 and in dien ben phu or whatever the hell it's called. We let them back into NATO after the commies started getting strong in the 60's. Now they sit back and live in this (paid) 30 day off a year socialist economy because we are paying for the defense in the world. The reason people like putin think they can turn on the US is because of countries like France. The French are cowards and do you know a Frenchman’s favorite words. "I surrender". Let the rest of the world defend themselves and lets just build America up like a fort and watch them slaughter each other. To hell with the ungrateful bastards. Russia knows the US has no plans on ever going to war with her. They are just mad because they suck at the capitalist game.

JRLR:

"... is becoming more dictatorial and belligerent...". For a second, I thought one was referring to the US.

Absolute_0-K:

Vladimir Putin's recent comments just reinforce the obvious: He is setting himself up as the anti-Bush, and working directly to undermine U.S. policy. It is no coincidence that Russia is becoming more dictatorial and belligerent at the same time BUT THAT WOULD MAKE VLADIMIR CHRIST WOULDN'T IT??? By comparison you might be on to something!!! :)

JAGDISH SUBRAMANIAN :

Be what you would seem to be - or, if you'd like it put more simply - never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.

Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

Let's take a look in our own mirrow. What moral authority haven't the U.S. and our good friends sqaundered to tell anyone about enlightenment values and "play hardball?" The Scottish enlightenment passed the Russians by. Are we now going to make the world safe for democracy again, a la Woodrow Wilson? Charity and democracy begin at home.

bio:

Frank:

I understand foreign policy. When the whole world and over half of our own population is screaming at us to stop, obviously we have a flawed foreign policy. These are the same policy makers that took us to Iraq shunning world opinion and hurling insults at the international community. Isolationism, ie shutting up for a while, would make us many more friends than our current policies. I don't want to villify Russia, but I'm sure they will do it on their own.

For the UN security council to do anything, it must have a unanimous vote....do not forget Russia is a member and stalemated the UN during the Cold War with its veto. The rest have their hands tied as long as the US and Russia are at odds. Thats why NATO was created.

And Felix is right, Israel has plenty of friends, we're just the only ones that put much on the line for them. Frankly I admire Israel, they're a tiny country surrounded by enemies who want them annhilated. If only all of us had their courage and will. and how did this discussion turn toward Israel????

Felix Drost, Amsterdam, NL:

Israel has friends besides the US; most if not all European nations are friendly with Israel. There's plenty of criticism but it's Hamas that's on our terrorist list and Israel that we have join NATO exercises with. Plenty of well known Europeans (such as José María Aznar and Antonio Martino) advocate Israeli membership in NATO.

Interesting to note tho that this discussion was about Russia, not about Israel. Somehow each time Mr. Singer posts here people think his nationality is reason enough to discredit his opinion. I'm not quite sure how to characterize such discrimination.

Frank:

More facts

Fact Iran just disobeyed the world (UN and the IAEA).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022200849.html

Fact the Security Council will struggle to impose tougher sanctions because of objections by China and Russia because of trade and natural resource sharing

However I also disagree with the sentiment of the speaker. Isolating or tough talk with Russia will just bring about more problems. Making Russisa an "axis of evil" country is extremely shortsighted

Russia and China along with France England and the United States need to work together as members of the security council.

You have to understand U.S. foreign policy. We are trying to build allies and consensus not become like Israel who has absolutely no friends besides the United States.

bio:

Bush has done enough. It is time to sit back and let Putin make a dictatorial ass out of himself. And when he does, let someone else lead the world in retaliation. And when they fail, they can come crying to the US like in WWII. The US needs to stop sticking its nose in everyone else's business, sit back and let the world search for other leadership for a while. Then maybe it will be appreciated again. Leadership won't come from the EU, they're never united on hard line issues. So who will put the Russians in check? China? India? The United States is the only country united enough and strong enough to accomplish anything on the world scene by itself.

paul:

I think there is nothing wrong in Iran trying to go Nuclear. As part of the NPT, the nuclear nations were suppose to ultimately disarm themselves. Have they done that, or even gone about trying to do that in the last 5 years. The answer would be NO. So if nuclear nations do not keep their promises being part of the NPT, why should nations like Iran not go the nuclear path. Just like the nuclear nations may feel threatened, so can non-nuclear nations.

Nipping at the heels again:

Oh GOD, I wish the Israeli leeches would stop yapping on and on about how the US should spend all it's blood and money to fight with Israel's enemies. Particularly when Israel has nothing BUT enemies and behaves in such a way that it never WILL have anything but enemies. But what else is new? Creating Israel such a mistake.
And supporting it is costing the US in every way.

JRLR:

Need for playing hardball with one's supposed friend. -- Legacy from early childhood: not enough options when time came to play... too few friends.

Neal Jettpace:

"Bush needs to start playing hardball with his supposed friend. U.S. support for Russian membership in the World Trade Organization was a mistake, but it is not too late to deny Russia lucrative nuclear waste storage contracts and to also link cooperation on satellite launches to Russia's behavior." - Saul Singer

Why on earth should the U.S. Government put the American People at risk just for the sake of Israel?!?! The disagreements between Israel and Iran are between them and them alone.

A very compelling case can be made that U.S. intervention actually prolongs a conflict that would come to a natural conclusion on its own if left unperturbed.

By intervening on behalf of Israel we are risking American lives and interests for no gain to ourselves whatsoever. For that matter we actually lose by abandoning what little influence we have left over Iranian foreign policy.

Israeli interests are not necessarily American interests!

Anonymous:

The meaning of this piece is rather trivial: Iran is an enemy of Israel and a commercial partner with Russia. So basically the message is the partner of my enemy is my enemy and should be treated this way by the rest of the world. Well this is a wishful thinking but hardly it's gonna be taken this way by anyone but neo cons. Funnily enough even in Israel with its huge Russian community this will hardly happen. The anti-Bush sentiments that the author mentions are shared by 90% of Europeans aoonnd 70% of Americans. The rest of it about Russia being quasi-rouge and dictatorial is an utter crap. And crap is crap no matter from which side you look at it. You can tell in return that Israel is a quasi-Nazi state but that's not gonna be a meaningful debate.

The difference between me and the author I guess is that I am not a Russian neo con and in general I can understand a lot what Israel does. So the point is when the neo-cons come to power there is little space for dialogue lots of space for crap like the one above


Singer again!:

But of course Singer would slam Putin. Putin has stopped the jewish oligarchs, who stole the country's natural resources under Yeltsin and wanted to take over politically as well. Go Putin. And let's not hear any more stuff about trying to foment revolution in Russia from the neocons. Doesn't israel have a full plate trying to take over the ME? Gee, they do think far ahead with the long plan, don't they.

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