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Don't Judge Afghan Culture

It is presumptuous for us to claim that certain practices in Afghanistan, or any other society, are wrong.

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Anonymous:

If a car breaks down you do not go blaming the car maker. How is it that when a Muslim makes mistakes, you go blame the religion?

I suggest before we point fingers, we study the topic.

Levent Alkan:


good morning Vivian, did you have breakfast? it is "kahvalti" in this language, it is what you eat "before coffee".

i shall somehow meet with my addressee. but it was a grand table with grand ones. thank you.

Levent Alkan:


bakalim annesinin dedesi peygamberden, babasinin dedesi peygamberden, biri hergun mecliste huzura cikan, kameralarda oradan buraya hizlica basi onunde yurudugunu gordugunuz iki kisi hakkinda ne yapacaksin, hayir niyetsiz gozu gormez yuregi isitmez olmus basbakan?

Levent Alkan:


Avusturyalilarin arkasindaki, bankalarin arkasindaki, orduna techizati verenlerin arkasindaki St Germain'i bir daha gorursun.

biz onu hirsizlarin azizi iken sifacilarin azizi yaptik, allahindan bulasin.

Levent Alkan:


Ataturk'u olduren Isvicreli Avusturyalilarin kanunlarini alan, Hasankeyfi sular altinda biraktiran haysiyetsiz herif. Aziz Hudayi'nin mektubunu yere caldiran soysuz herif.

Levent Alkan:


bakalim nicin panik atak gecirmisiz, Ankara universitesi ne yapmis, Nisantasili dorduncu doktor birincinin yaptiklarini ve raporunu temizlemek icin neler vermis,

bakalim Erenkoy sen nasil ilgilenebiliyorsun diye sormus ve uretici firmanin doktorlara tatil ve kadin sundugu, zamaninda besyuz liralik ilaci ucretsiz almak icin raporu vermis, babamiza abimize aldirmis, bakalim elektrosok uygulayan Bakirkoy bashekimini kim cehenneme yollamis,

ya sayin BAsbakan, ananin da beli kirilsin insallah. cebine giren paralar burnundan gelsin. biz daha yeni ciktik 1987 cehenneminden, seni bile temizledik. basini kurtardik. Allah belani versin, bagirdigin kursude dilin tutulsun insallah. karakolda yedirdiklerini icirdiklerini bir daha yer icersin insallah.

bizim serefimiz yerine gelir, senin arkandaki babasiz kalmis cocuklarin ahlari dinmez. basimiza derde sokanlarin ticaret diye rezil edenlerin allah belasini versin. cikolatalar bogaziniza dizilsin Osmanli kalkindiricisi serefsiz almancilar.

Levent Alkan:

bakalim Mehmet Akif'in siirini degistirenlerin universitesi Hacettepe'de Okuyucularla bir yil gecirmisken Kutuk YApilari dersinden gecirmeyen bastibacak kaytan biyigin durumu ne?

bakalim TUGSAS Merkez Bilgi Islem Merkezinde kullanilan yazilimlar BAsbakanlik'ta bile yokken nasil alinmis? BAsbakanlik Personel Dairesinde gorevli memur kadinin kocasi niye besbin dolar aliyordu

bakalim cep telefonu ve bilgisayarlar uzerinden fisleme sistemini gelistiren kurum kimlerle calisiyor ve kimlerden emir aliyor

bakalim cep telefonu ve bilgisayar getiren Ankara'daki dernek kilic saklatabiliyor mu?
bakalim hangi bankalar borca sokuyor ve cep telefonlarindan ticari yayin yapiyor?

bakalim Vodafon, devreye girdigi ilk gece Amerikalilar icin sorusturma yapmis mi?
ve cesitli yayinlar mesela uykuda geceleri telefon acikken reklam yapmis mi

bakalim ismimizi alanlar kredi karti kullananlar yuzunden kimlere dayak atiliyor, bakalim bize gonderilen paralar nerede tutuluyor?

bakalim Birlemis Milletler Tiyatro Elcisi Hint-Afrika kokenli Turkiye'de Endustri (tozlama isgal anlamlarina gelir) Muhendisligi okumus, uyusturucu trafigine girmis, sonradan karisi olan kadinin ickisine ilac koymus, irzina gecmis Safranbolulu kadini bakalim kim kurtarmis?

bakalim neler yaptirip ne fotograflar cektirmisler, bakalim telefonlarin sebekesi ile neler yapilabiliyor, ne krizler ne kanserler. bakalim 2008 Aziz Paul hakkinda neler soylenmis?

hayirli isler sayin BAsbakan, bakalim kilic gibi utulu elbiseler dugumu keser mi?

Levent Alkan:


bakalim Ordu Hastanesi ne icin Bilkent'te konuslanmis, Ihsan Dogramaci Nuh Nebiden mi kalmis, techizatin parasini madalyonlular mi odemis, bankalarin arkasinda kimler varmis, genekurmay baskani ne icin ata biniyormus.

hadi bakalim.

Levent Alkan:


bakalim birinci doktorla ikinci doktor niye farkli rapor vermis, rutbesi ne alemde, haydarpasa'daki kurul doktorlari niye rusvet istemis babamdan, yoklamak icindi herhalde

Ankara universitesindeki PKK Doktorlar grubunun bir uyesinin eski esi profesor olmus mu? bakalim Cernobil'in arkasindaki cumle neymis?

Levent Alkan:


bakalim ("seni kalbime gomdum" parcasini kabul ediyor musunuz) ile telefona gelen bir yazilim var mi?

bir bilene yetkilisine soralim. yoksa ne ala.

Levent Alkan:


kulaklarimdan su getirenleri bir dava edeyim ben, en iyisi. cep telefonu ile konusmuyorum artik. LCD ekranlarla, Zeki Muren de beni goruyor mu acaba?

FBI do you see me on LCD screens, are you able to know me from my eyes, or is it just what Russians have achieved?

Vivian, for a better language at your mastery, please sms to +90 539 845 2973, or email to 5398452973@um.turkcell.com.tr

i am not able to reply to mobile phone calls because water is coming from my ears.

i shall go to a doctor for medicine if i find money besides food. i live daily with the money that my father transfers weekly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki

Levent Alkan:


agziniza pelesenk sahsimla ilgili konularda dava acmamamin bir sebebi var sayin Erdogan.

ama nasil olsa goruluyor.

Levent Alkan:


Recep Tayyip Erdogan was a partner of this company Ulker, before ministry, USA knows with "Cola Turka".

Levent Alkan:

...

Ataturk had rejected the Family that had tortured Grandsons of Ahmet, and all the institutions of infected Islam,

Ataturk had not been comprehended then. these are in His Speech also.

so words of Said Nursi are honourable, and Ataturk and Said Nursi are together now.

...

Levent Alkan:

...

who is growing the opium for whom? the way of life i met in visit of Pope Benedictus to Istanbul is no different than Fethullah Gulen "victory isaac", someone behind the government.

...

Levent Alkan:


salamat pagi Vivian

i had sent letters to a girl 18 years ago, she was from Malaysia, the greeting is Malaysian.

the opium that in Afghanistan grows have been couriered by PKK to Europe that Soviets had supported.

and Belgium had supported the members of PKK.

today a chocolate company of Belgium High Class has been purchased by 850M USD.

i dont judge Afghanistan, i never shall, they had years of war against Soviets.

and they had been accused of World Trade Towers where gold in the basement worth 160G USD is missing.

there is no medallion on the neck of Recep Tayyip Erdogan but he has suits.

who is growing the opium for whom? the way of life i met in His visit to Istanbul is no different than Fethullah Gulen "victory isaac", someone behind the government.

Said Nursi, with whom Fethullah Gulen is known, had one cloth and a pair of underwear in a basket of straw, he was not sufficient because of His simplicity, he had been granted a fresh bread on a branch of a tree in one His journeys in the forest for inspiration, He is known with Andreas.

He was colleague of Ataturk and an appointed Rector of a University in Macedonia, known with Fatima, Daughter of Ahmet, and Ali, His Son of Uncle.

because Ataturk had not been comprehended for He had rejected the Family that had tortured Grandsons of Ahmet, and all the institutions of infected Islam, words of Said Nursi are honourable, because they are together now. He had been sentenced to death by Romanov Family but later freed for His frankness in spirituality.

but around His village and City of Andreas, children are in the garbage for bread. what is a chocolate?

and the light we met in the eyes of Said Nursi, is worth a cheer and chocolate does not give His light.

and Jesus shall come and walk with Ahmet. this is one of the grand signs of Stand Up, to be transliterated.

i never voted for this party of government, and as Adnan Menderes, previous prime minister hanged, had not accepted the offer of Said Nursi because of his fear of death of rope, Recep Tayyip Erdogan must be aware of the ropes on his neck, within his agreements, that Saddam Hussein had, his face turned to light.

marco antonio:

Hi Folks,

oh, my.... God save us from politically correct ...do not do this, do not do that... really enough.... a fight between the bad bad guilty Lord (US) and the self suggested victims (whatever another contry around the mid east, south and central america - where i came from -africa et coetera). Like said in Brazil: Wake up !!!! Grow up !!!!

my regards,

marco antonio:

Hi Folks,

oh, my.... God save us from politically correct ...do not this, do not do that... really enough....

my regards,

Levent Alkan:


thanks to the Priests that we owe today's language to. with their passion, faith and frankness they build our barn up of today.

thanks to the folks that share their words and worths into.

put Your Blessings onto Iraq, onto Iran, onto Afghanistan, bring Cheer to these lands, and tailor them for daylight.

Levent Alkan from the first anonymous to the last:


http://www.classicsnetwork.com/showcreativeprint.asp?IDNo=1246

His Holiness Pope Benedictus

i thank the missionaries and priests on this land that couriered the hope and cheer of Cheerist Christ into the hearts of anyone with lungs with holes bleeding.

yes Viviana Greetings,

Anonymous:

i cannot transliterate the lyrics, maybe one day, when the water from my eyes have a rest on the face of beloved EArth.

Anonymous:


oyku: tale, story
berk: sound, solid, strong, shining

i remember BERK as "thunder, strikening" but tdk.gov.tr knows better. this is why they get paid and this is why i have a D. you shall meet my family one by one, Mr President.

today's TeleGraph,

i think NASA is talking about You, and your addressee. there is no waste on Earth and we all have a paste everytime we ask for, baked and granted. we shall have transliterate Letters on Words, Mr President, in one alphabet.

and Israel shall heal the Muslims.

Saatli Maarif Takvimi.

Anonymous:


http://www.oykuberk.com/

they are twins too, of two eggs.

postgraduate of brother is in Spain, and education of sister is at University of Music and Flamenco Groups.

Anonymous:


and i hope, Republicans got the taste of the Water in Iraq, between the two sources.

till donkeys get the taste of the sweet mercy. HipHop has a beat too, if George Williams Bush listen to.

i hope geography is the will in you, at least in the capital, that i met in the front page of WaPo.

JRLR:

"... it is not anyone's responsibility to impose democracy on a given country...".

I believe the point here is that values not only may not but simply cannot be imposed on people, let alone on whole countries, least of all through violence and war. Values spread through example, and through example alone.

On this thread, people seem to enjoy showing how outraged they are at what they consider crimes (inhumane, barbaric) and abuses committed in Afghanistan: oppression, stoning, etc.

They would rather have the world believe they are on the side of respect for basic human dignity, human rights, freedom, protecting women and children, and for not leaving any of that to the discretion of individual governments.

It is John Pilger who pointed out that: “We, in the West, know a lot about the crimes of other people but almost nothing about our own.” To be quite clear: we, who are citizens of a country whose very own citizens have failed, repeatedly, in recent years, to respect human rights, international law, the Geneva conventions, etc. in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Vietnam, all over Latin America and on every continent, we who have betrayed, again and again, most shamefully, the very values we claimed to uphold and to fight for, it resulting in millions of victims all over the world, WE have no credibility whatsoever to impose our “values” on other people.

Let me call upon Gandhi to illustrate my point. A lady once met Gandhi with her son and asked the Mahatma: “Please, tell my son not to eat sugar. It is unhealthy that he eats so much sugar.” After a long pause, Gandhi asked the lady: “Please come back in a month.” A month later, the lady was back with her son and once again asked: “Please, tell my son not to eat sugar.” Gandhi turned to the boy and said: “Do not eat sugar. It is not good for your health.” The mother then turned to Gandhi and said: “But Mahatma, why did you not tell him that a month ago. I live far from here and had to waste days traveling back and forth.” Gandhi bowed and said: “Mother, last month, I still ate sugar.”

How about we begin being outraged about what we ourselves do, and start mending our ways, for a change, before we lecture others? I bet that if only we did, we would stop feeling that didactic urge, at last.

Anonymous:


water is Vater, german. and "donkey comes home from water" is "Key of Dome is from Faither".

spiritual idioms depend on pronunciations and languages of priests.

nowadays i am studying on AH of NOAH, being respectful and the system established on it.

i had a few more to say, but i shall recollect later, as far as i see.

Anonymous:

"You are not a writer if you are not published, you are not an actor if you do not get paid." (Patrick NYC)

That is quite true. Alive, van Gogh was not even a painter!

Only post-mortem, and quite recently at that, after one of his paintings finally sold for $85.5 million, did Vincent finally become a painter.

It must be admitted, however, that at $140 million for "No. 5, 1948", Jackson Pollock remains 1.6374269 times as great an artist as poor Vincent...

Anonymous:


though i am anonymous, by mistake and excitement, you know who i am.

it is a happiness to have met you again. bon chance. and i think "dead poets" give no advertisement, and particularly cancel any of them, if anyhow given.

Anonymous:


you shall ask maybe why Spain, let me explain, the family who had made war against Ahmet had reached to Spain.

but in Portugal is Fatima Bibiana near Valongo and MAry, of Jesus Christ and Ahmet the Prophet.

Anonymous:


maybe i have put here the least, but the core of the case. for more, please have an appointment with the King of Spain before He offers you to shut your mouth up.

St Germain was Christhope Colombus that had argued with Catholic Church, MArk Twain of Huckleberry and Literature, someone before the french Revolution and Marie Anthoniette, etc.

but later have an appointment with Chavez to have more about this case and with Fidelity Castro to learn about Tien Temples in Cuba of Atlanta.

maybe it has a relation with the Tiennanmen Square in China. you are the journalist, and i love travelling.

Mike:

"We can only hope that the oppressed (whether in Afghanistan, America or elsewhere) will one day live in a world of hope and tolerance."

No, we can bloody well do something about it. The idea that it is "presumptuous" to find fault with anything that occurs in another country and that all we can do is think good thoughts at the victims eliminates, at a stroke, the very concept of human rights.

Anonymous:


do you like those singing with their medallions on their necks?

do you like those singing with sailor or policeman cloths on?

before Ahmet was named as Muhammed by the family who made war against Him and later governed Islam, Ahmet was a simple person of kindness, a master of universe and relations. He had been educated by a christian priest.

now what happened after His death by poison is not accepted by religous people. and they are right.

so besides freedom and human rights, i invite you to reconsider the reality of Ahmet the Prophet. i dont name Him as Muhammed either.

and if i were in Afghanistan, i would have explained these to them. and highly probably i would protect them too.

but they dont know these, but internally and naturally something raises in them to reject and to protect.

so please study on St Germain, and you shall be familiar with the guidance before Medallion and Homosexuality on Earth. they are procedures known with St Germain.

St Germain has a system that till you get aware of what you have and do at the moment, He puts on you what you can carry till you are aware, your choice to reject too.

it is not a matter of Islam, it is a matter of who poisoned Ahmet and changed what He left, of the family.

i am sure, Vivian, you shall protect women and children in other circumstances too. as you know more, you shall have a wider consciousness and circumference to be able to hug wider.

but homosexuality and the medallion are your choice to carry and to practise, till you come home from water, beaten and beaten.

Patrick NYC:

Who does this idiot work for, outside of the vague listing 'foreign correspondent, producer and blogger' which means nothing without a listing of the papers or blogs she works for.

You are not a writer if you are not published, you are not an actor if you do not get paid. Her ranting is so contradicting, I'm surprised the Post even ran it.

Kyle:

It's presumptuous to claim that any practices of a given society are wrong?
So the author is against human rights guarantees? If a given society deprives people of basic human rights, we can't say that's wrong? That would be a big setback and I doubt she means it. Just an intellectually lazy column.

Julie:

"so too is it presumptuous for us to claim that certain practices by Afghanistan or any other society are wrong"

I can't quite figure out what point the writer is trying to make in this article, given that she ends it with the statement quoted above. This after she criticizes practices of the Taliban and calls stoning "inhumane" and "barbaric." Is she not herself calling these behaviours "wrong", or did I miss something? For my part, I would like to think that humankind has progressed to a point in which respect for basic human dignity is not left to the discretion of individual governments.

_KT_:

"...it presumptuous for us to claim that certain practices by Afghanistan or any other society are wrong."

Hear that, all you people out there? Don't criticize us in the US for murdering and expelling the native peoples of North America, or for enslaving Africans and oppressing their descendants. That would be presumptuous of you.

will:

Here we're told not to judge Afghan culture while the author is judging it. Which well she should, just as we should judge any culture, including our own, that sacrifices not just individuals but entire communities to oppression and worse in the name of religion, truth, yada yada yada.

A.:

Gee, and here we were at PostGlobal that has posed a weird question, asking the panel to find fault and set up that usual, America, us & them (with us or against us) mindset. The film was made to sell some popcorn and candy in American cinemas, without regard to local culture. Now we have to a trial to find the guilty party?

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